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danieln1
Nov 4th, 2011, 10:29 PM
For the ones wanting to compare their results, Kimberly is much older than Kvitova, therefore she still holds a lead, but that soon will pass, Petra is just to good to remain behind Fiona for much longer.

Petra not playing her best trashed Kimberly Aus Open champ in Paris this year.

Who is the best player?

Discuss :devil:

J4m3ka
Nov 4th, 2011, 10:32 PM
It's Petra. She has a monstrous game which works well on all surfaces.

Sammo
Nov 4th, 2011, 10:32 PM
Clijsters, Kvitova is already slow at age 21 :lol:

ViceUltramontain
Nov 4th, 2011, 10:36 PM
For the ones wanting to compare their results, Kimberly is much older than Kvitova, therefore she still holds a lead, but that soon will pass, Petra is just to good to remain behind Fiona for much longer.

Petra not playing her best trashed Kimberly Aus Open champ in Paris this year.

Who is the best player?

Discuss :devil:

So biased. Why mentioning Petra's win and not the two other encounters ? Because Petra was trashed 3/6 0/6 and 1/6 1/6 ?

And Kim was far from her best too in Paris :wavey:


It's Petra. She has a monstrous game which works well on all surfaces.

Especially on outdoor hardcourt. Amazing results this year. :worship:



Unbearable hype. Petra gonna win the poll anyway. Kim is hated more than ever here and people seem to have forgotten what the Big Four is.

J4m3ka
Nov 4th, 2011, 10:59 PM
Especially on outdoor hardcourt. Such amazing results this year. :worship:




Petra's form on outdoor hardcourt is due to her questionable consistency and post-Wimbledon slump. I expect she is determined to rectify her outdoor hard record next year.

Kim has been a one surface pony for 5 years now and it looks like she has no intention to revive her (strong) clay game or (limited) grass game in her second career. Petra has admittedly struggled on outdoor hard this year but has won Madrid, Wimbledon and the YEC on indoor hard - all in her break through year. Kim has been a non-entity on anything but hardcourt in her comeback.

It's nothing to do with hype. At the present time (as the thread title suggests) I think Petra has more of a chance to win a hardcourt slam than Kim has of winning RG or Wimbledon :shrug: To me the player who has great success across multiple surfaces has the superior and more versatile game.

Novichok
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:09 PM
For the ones wanting to compare their results, Kimberly is much older than Kvitova, therefore she still holds a lead, but that soon will pass, Petra is just to good to remain behind Fiona for much longer.

Petra not playing her best trashed Kimberly Aus Open champ in Paris this year.

Who is the best player?

Discuss :devil:

Kim was far from her best. :hysteric:

Wert.
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:13 PM
:spit:






Comparing this two :o :spit:




Kim OFC.

Linguae^
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:17 PM
OMG?
Totally Kim.

flyingmachine
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:49 PM
Its a but too early to say. :o

Leo St
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:51 PM
kim clijsters is by far the best..

dsanders06
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:04 AM
Hmm... as a fan of both... I don't know. Kim is probably the more talented all-round player, as I'd definitely say Petra is much further away from Kim in defensive skills than Kim is far away from Petra in offensive skills ... but at the same time, I'd have to say peak Petra probably beats peak Kim.

I'm almost certain Petra will end her career with more Slams than Kim, though that may be in part due to Kim pissing away so many years of her physical prime.

Kworb
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:10 AM
This Petra hype. :sobbing: Playing against the weakest competition of all time and she still can only win on fast courts and indoors. She is way too limited and has way too many weaknesses to ever be in Kim's league.

ExtremespeedX
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:13 AM
Kvitova by far. Easy, economical style. Epic shotmaking. Skills at the net. Good variety. Kim is a good player, but she's as exciting to watch as Djokovic. Grind Grind Grind. Kvitova will end up with a much better career and she's more exciting to watch.

Edit: Also, this topic says GAME-wise not achievement-wise. Think about that.

pierce85
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:13 AM
This Petra hype. :sobbing: Playing against the weakest competition of all time and she still can only win on fast courts and indoors. She is way too limited and has way too many weaknesses to ever be in Kim's league.

Preach. Preach. Preach

People don't realize that the competition for slams is pathetic.Nowadays any player who has a good 2 week form can win a slam (Li, schiavone)

BikezAreForever!
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:38 AM
I suspect this is rather premature. As much as I am Petra fan, her game is still developing and she is only 21. So far she had only one good season. I am obviously hoping that she would get better than Kim, and I believe she will, as far as achievements and game. However, can we talk about it in three years time, no???

Steven.
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:47 AM
ugh, I like Kvitova's game when it's on, but this hype is just unbelievable. :facepalm:

Svetlana)))
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:04 AM
Let's not reach here. Kim was amazing at her peak, her athleticism alone trumps Petra

danieln1
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:05 AM
Forehand: Petra
Backhand: Petra
Volleys: Petra
Serve: Petra
Touch: Petra
Slice: Petra
Movement: Kimberly
Footwork: Kimberly
Defense: Kimberly
Mental Toughness : Definetely Petra

7-3 :shrug:

ViceUltramontain
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:08 AM
Forehand: Petra
Backhand: Petra
Volleys: Petra
Serve: Petra
Touch: Petra
Slice: Petra
Movement: Kimberly
Footwork: Kimberly
Defense: Kimberly
Mental Toughness : Definetely Petra

7-3 :shrug:

Second line of your post and already a huge mistake.

Try again :wavey:

Novichok
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:09 AM
Forehand: Petra
Backhand: Petra
Volleys: Petra
Serve: Petra
Touch: Petra
Slice: Petra
Movement: Kimberly
Footwork: Kimberly
Defense: Kimberly
Mental Toughness : Definetely Petra

7-3 :shrug:

Even if Petra was better in 7/10 things compared to Kim that doesn't mean she's the better overall player.

Novichok
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:10 AM
Second line of your post and already a huge mistake.

Try again :wavey:

He doesn't know the meaning of the word "true." He might not know what "backhand" means. :shrug:

Steven.
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:12 AM
Forehand: Petra
Backhand: Petra
Volleys: Petra
Serve: Petra
Touch: Petra
Slice: Petra
Movement: Kimberly
Footwork: Kimberly
Defense: Kimberly
Mental Toughness : Definetely Petra

7-3 :shrug:

LOL no.

Touch is arguable. Petra can't drop shot well. You severely overrate her it's pretty disgusting and :facepalm: worthy. Even the FH is arguable. Clijsters has a very, very big FH although inconsistent (Petra's is also inconsistent too).

Johnbert
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:13 AM
this petra-hype is going to be ridiculous :rolleyes:

petra better than kimmie yet??? c'mon dudes... :hysteric:

ExtremespeedX
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:14 AM
Even if Petra was better in 7/10 things compared to Kim that doesn't mean she's the better overall player.

Achievement-wise, she obviously isn't. But she's a better player, based on her easy power, easy style and superior variety. She's only 21, I am sure she'll surpass Kim's career in mere 2 years.

Steven.
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:17 AM
Achievement-wise, she obviously isn't. But she's a better player, based on her easy power, easy style and superior variety. She's only 21, I am sure she'll surpass Kim's career in mere 2 years.

So you're expecting her to win another 4 slams in the next two years? Which ones? And you're also expecting her to win the next two YECs? and 7 more tier 1s?

ViceUltramontain
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:19 AM
Achievement-wise, she obviously isn't. But she's a better player, based on her easy power, easy style and superior variety. She's only 21, I am sure she'll surpass Kim's career in mere 2 years.

At 21, Kim was not a singles GS winner, I give you that, but she was a former world number one in singles and doubles and had played 4 GS finals and reached the semis in every slam tournaments. And she was competing with Serena, Venus, Justine, Capriati, Davenport, Seles, Mauresmo, Pierce, Dementieva, etc, not with Azarenka, Shoulderpova and Wozniacki.

Most people here never watched tennis before 2008 or what ?

ExtremespeedX
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:22 AM
So you're expecting her to win another 4 slams in the next two years? Which ones? And you're also expecting her to win the next two YECs? and 7 more tier 1s?

I think 2012 is the first legitimate chance for a player to get the calendar slam. With the way Petra's been improving she can certainly win AO. She can then carry that confidence to FO and considering the lack of good clay courters, she can win that too. Wimbledon is a lock for her. And with 3 slams under her belt, she can win USO on sheer confidence, if she arrives in good form there. YEC and Olympics are good chances considering the former is indoors and the latter is on grass. Overall I'd say Petra has a decent chance to win all 4 slams next year, YEC and even Olympics.

Steven.
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:24 AM
I think 2012 is the first legitimate chance for a player to get the calendar slam. With the way Petra's been improving she can certainly win AO. She can then carry that confidence to FO and considering the lack of good clay courters, she can win that too. Wimbledon is a lock for her. And with 3 slams under her belt, she can win USO on sheer confidence, if she arrives in good form there. YEC and Olympics are good chances considering the former is indoors and the latter is on grass. Overall I'd say Petra has a decent chance to win all 4 slams next year, YEC and even Olympics.

sigh...

ViceUltramontain
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:24 AM
I think 2012 is the first legitimate chance for a player to get the calendar slam. With the way Petra's been improving she can certainly win AO. She can then carry that confidence to FO and considering the lack of good clay courters, she can win that too. Wimbledon is a lock for her. And with 3 slams under her belt, she can win USO on sheer confidence, if she arrives in good form there. YEC and Olympics are good chances considering the former is indoors and the latter is on grass. Overall I'd say Petra has a decent chance to win all 4 slams next year, YEC and even Olympics.

My bad for answering seriously to you. Seems like you're living in another world.

Johnbert
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:26 AM
I think 2012 is the first legitimate chance for a player to get the calendar slam. With the way Petra's been improving she can certainly win AO. She can then carry that confidence to FO and considering the lack of good clay courters, she can win that too. Wimbledon is a lock for her. And with 3 slams under her belt, she can win USO on sheer confidence, if she arrives in good form there. YEC and Olympics are good chances considering the former is indoors and the latter is on grass. Overall I'd say Petra has a decent chance to win all 4 slams next year, YEC and even Olympics.

i hope this post is ironic... :unsure:

Novichok
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:29 AM
i hope this post is ironic... :unsure:

I don't know if it's ironic but it sure is idiotic.

vixter
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:29 AM
I think 2012 is the first legitimate chance for a player to get the calendar slam. With the way Petra's been improving she can certainly win AO. She can then carry that confidence to FO and considering the lack of good clay courters, she can win that too. Wimbledon is a lock for her. And with 3 slams under her belt, she can win USO on sheer confidence, if she arrives in good form there. YEC and Olympics are good chances considering the former is indoors and the latter is on grass. Overall I'd say Petra has a decent chance to win all 4 slams next year, YEC and even Olympics.

I think so too, since that is the upcoming year...

Carry confidence from an eventual AO win to the FO? Umm maybe if she plays nothing in between and spends the whole days watching her reflection in the trophy... :D

Novichok
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:31 AM
I think so too, since that is the upcoming year...

Carry confidence from an eventual AO win to the FO? Umm maybe if she plays nothing in between and spends the whole days watching her reflection in the trophy... :D

Her confidence will carry over to each tournament and she'll have an undefeated season. :scared:

Johnbert
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:34 AM
Her confidence will carry over to each tournament and she'll have an undefeated season. :scared:

as i said in another thread, she will win the "golden-petra-slam" next year, which includes the golden slam + doubles-gold-medal + fedcup + yec. steffi 1988 is a mess against this petra :angel:

Cajka
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:35 AM
Forehand: Petra
Backhand: Petra
Volleys: Petra
Serve: Petra
Touch: Petra
Slice: Petra
Movement: Kimberly
Footwork: Kimberly
Defense: Kimberly
Mental Toughness : Definetely Petra

7-3 :shrug:

Kim has a better backhand. Volleys and touch? People really forgot that Kim used to be an amazing doubles players. Slice, spin etc. it's all the part of the basic stroke (serve, forehand, backhand), if you wanted to count it, you could add a new category: variety.

ExtremespeedX
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:35 AM
Her confidence will carry over to each tournament and she'll have an undefeated season. :scared:

I honestly think it's within Petra to have an almost perfect season. Why? Because when she's on she's unstoppable. She has mental toughness to win matches when she's off. She has great serve, groundies and variety. Who can stop her in 2012? Wozniacki? :lol:

pierce85
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:38 AM
I honestly think it's within Petra to have an almost perfect season. Why? Because when she's on she's unstoppable. She has mental toughness to win matches when she's off. She has great serve, groundies and variety. Who can stop her in 2012? Wozniacki? :lol:

Do you see these green dots below your credits on your left? I foresee the future and I bet they're going red before you hit 100 posts!

Johnbert
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:44 AM
Who can stop her in 2012? Wozniacki? :lol:

zvonareva, petkovic, li or even dulgheru :shrug:

ExtremespeedX
Nov 5th, 2011, 02:34 AM
zvonareva, petkovic, li or even dulgheru :shrug:

I guess you'll be betting money on McHale and Vinci to beat Dullniacki next time they meet too, then :shrug:

tennisbear7
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:40 AM
Oh my God. This Petra hype. :help:

danieln1
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:41 AM
Second line of your post and already a huge mistake.

Try again :wavey:

I guess you forgot some huge backhands winners Kvitova unleashed this year... Kimberly´s backhand wasn´t a weapon, she used to finish most of her points with that inconsistent forehand she used to have.

tennisbear7
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:51 AM
I guess you forgot some huge backhands winners Kvitova unleashed this year... Kimberly´s backhand wasn´t a weapon, she used to finish most of her points with that inconsistent forehand she used to have.

Everyone, Kim's backhand isn't a weapon. Just thought you ought to know. :help::help::help::help::help::help::help::help::h elp::help::help::help::help::help::help::tape::tap e::tape:

danieln1
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:52 AM
Fiona´s fans are so defensive and boring........... :facepalm:

mac47
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:53 AM
I think Kvitova is going to have a great career and a great 2012, but some of the predictions on here are pretty silly.

Pump-it-UP
Nov 5th, 2011, 06:06 AM
:haha: I love the offseason.

FrOzon
Nov 5th, 2011, 06:50 AM
I'm almost certain Petra will end her career with more Slams than Kim, though that may be in part due to Kim pissing away so many years of her physical prime.

due to Kim having Serena, Venus, Justine, Capriati in their pyhsical prime.

LUVMIRZA
Nov 5th, 2011, 07:00 AM
Kim is an one trick pony. She's able to win multiple grandslams only after the superior players retired or went AWOL. Queen Petra is much much much better. She is gonna dominate everybody else on the tour and 'll win atleast 27 Grand Slams before she retires:worship::worship:

Watever I said about Kim is true though:shrug:

Mistress of Evil
Nov 5th, 2011, 07:09 AM
Kimberly is a complete player with a versatile game!
Chihuahua's game is still very, very raw - she still cannot rally properly :awww:

Laura_VeeFan
Nov 5th, 2011, 10:04 AM
:lol: @ the Kvitova hype. I like her game but Kim has a better game

SELVEN
Nov 5th, 2011, 10:46 AM
@danieln1 :smash:
you hate Kim, don't you :tears:

GreenGrass
Nov 5th, 2011, 11:29 AM
Kim Clijsters

Miss Atomic Bomb
Nov 6th, 2011, 12:57 PM
(Can't believe I am doing this, let the Lord have mercy on me.)

Kim Clijsters was unfortunate that her physical peak was during the most competitive era in the history of WTA, and yet she managed to reach multiple slam finals and a very high ranking. Achievements cannot exist in vacuum, and are comparative to the technology and competition of each particular era.

Petra is an amazing player and WILL achieve more than Kim has (which wouldn't be true if Kim was at her physical peak right now, or if Petra's peak was in the early naughties era). Kim, as a player, beats Petra in just about every department except the serve and at her peak matched up well against most players on most surfaces in most situations.

SidTheKid
Nov 6th, 2011, 03:47 PM
Kim all the way

marineblue
Nov 6th, 2011, 04:00 PM
I think 2012 is the first legitimate chance for a player to get the calendar slam. With the way Petra's been improving she can certainly win AO. She can then carry that confidence to FO and considering the lack of good clay courters, she can win that too. Wimbledon is a lock for her. And with 3 slams under her belt, she can win USO on sheer confidence, if she arrives in good form there. YEC and Olympics are good chances considering the former is indoors and the latter is on grass. Overall I'd say Petra has a decent chance to win all 4 slams next year, YEC and even Olympics.

:haha:
this post: :silly:

coolfish1103
Nov 6th, 2011, 04:08 PM
Kim Clijsters.

allhingis
Nov 6th, 2011, 04:51 PM
What? Kimberly winning this poll??? People here are crazy, Kvitova is the better player by miles

Apoleb
Nov 6th, 2011, 05:06 PM
I think 2012 is the first legitimate chance for a player to get the calendar slam. With the way Petra's been improving she can certainly win AO. She can then carry that confidence to FO and considering the lack of good clay courters, she can win that too. Wimbledon is a lock for her. And with 3 slams under her belt, she can win USO on sheer confidence, if she arrives in good form there. YEC and Olympics are good chances considering the former is indoors and the latter is on grass. Overall I'd say Petra has a decent chance to win all 4 slams next year, YEC and even Olympics.

This.

And all of this will happen in 2012 for a reason. When Petra wins the Olympics to achieve the Golden Slam, the Heavens will open and a terrible scream will be heard, signaling the final death of Satan and the liberation of humanity. Petra will reveal herself to be Jesus' sister who also happens to be the Father in another form, and everyone will live happily ever after.

Setsuna.
Nov 6th, 2011, 05:07 PM
(Can't believe I am doing this, let the Lord have mercy on me.)

Kim Clijsters was unfortunate that her physical peak was during the most competitive era in the history of WTA, and yet she managed to reach multiple slam finals and a very high ranking. Achievements cannot exist in vacuum, and are comparative to the technology and competition of each particular era.

Petra is an amazing player and WILL achieve more than Kim has (which wouldn't be true if Kim was at her physical peak right now, or if Petra's peak was in the early naughties era). Kim, as a player, beats Petra in just about every department except the serve and at her peak matched up well against most players on most surfaces in most situations.

Well said, reetard. Case Closed.

bandabou
Nov 6th, 2011, 06:23 PM
love Petra..but flourising in Caro-era isn't the same as being part of the elite during Serena/Juju-era.

Matt01
Nov 6th, 2011, 06:37 PM
This.

And all of this will happen in 2012 for a reason. When Petra wins the Olympics to achieve the Golden Slam, the Heavens will open and a terrible scream will be heard, signaling the final death of Satan and the liberation of humanity. Petra will reveal herself to be Jesus' sister who also happens to be the Father in another form, and everyone will live happily ever after.


:hearts:

Novichok
Nov 6th, 2011, 06:46 PM
This.

And all of this will happen in 2012 for a reason. When Petra wins the Olympics to achieve the Golden Slam, the Heavens will open and a terrible scream will be heard, signaling the final death of Satan and the liberation of humanity. Petra will reveal herself to be Jesus' sister who also happens to be the Father in another form, and everyone will live happily ever after.

All praise to Petra. Amen.:bowdown:

terjw
Nov 6th, 2011, 06:54 PM
Right now - Petra but only because Kim isn't playing and is injured of course. Overall Petra is not in Kim's league yet. She's had one good season. Kim has had better seasons. Kim also has a much better winning strike rate and career winning percentage in slams and tournaments. Note that I'm giving rates rather than totals since with totals Kim has played more years.

Forehand: Petra
Backhand: Petra
Volleys: Petra
Serve: Petra
Touch: Petra
Slice: Petra
Movement: Kimberly
Footwork: Kimberly
Defense: Kimberly
Mental Toughness : Definetely Petra

7-3 :shrug:

Posts like this remind me of the way the winners are determined in sports like synchronised swimming and dancing. :lol: So glad tennis isn't run like that.

Edy.
Nov 6th, 2011, 07:16 PM
Clijsters.

Sombrerero loco
Nov 6th, 2011, 07:55 PM
clijsters, by far

sammy01
Nov 6th, 2011, 09:04 PM
lol the OP's hate of kim + petra hype + off season = wank thread.

kim by a mile.

ExtremespeedX
Nov 6th, 2011, 11:55 PM
Kimberly is a complete player with a versatile game!
Chihuahua's game is still very, very raw - she still cannot rally properly :awww:

Yeah, especially her serve and net game :weirdo:

danieln1
Nov 7th, 2011, 01:37 AM
Yeah, especially her serve and net game :weirdo:

Which are non-exitants in terms of the elite players and reason she never past Wimbledon SF :help:

Apoleb
Nov 7th, 2011, 03:47 AM
If it was Kim by a "mile", she wouldn't have been crushed this year.

I give the edge to Petra on indoor carpet and easily on grass. Next.

Craig.
Nov 7th, 2011, 03:56 AM
If it was Kim by a "mile", she wouldn't have been crushed this year.

I give the edge to Petra on indoor carpet and easily on grass. Next.

:rolls: Your ongoing Petra bandwagoning is giving me so much life for some reason. :hysteric: And I'm not even a fan of hers.

shap_half
Nov 7th, 2011, 04:03 AM
Baby Jesus is crying, because of the very existence of these threads.

Petra can only dream of being as good as Kim's most insidious farts.

Dominic
Nov 7th, 2011, 04:04 AM
Generally speaking, Kim is better in most departments.

Apoleb
Nov 7th, 2011, 04:04 AM
:rolls: Your ongoing Petra bandwagoning is giving me so much life for some reason. :hysteric: And I'm not even a fan of hers.

It's repressed jealousy, when your favorite is Crapova. :angel: You're welcome to jump at any moment though.

Craig.
Nov 7th, 2011, 04:14 AM
It's repressed jealousy, when your favorite is Crapova. :angel: You're welcome to jump at any moment though.

I remember a time when you were on the Maria bandwagon too, which is why I don't expect this deal with Petra to last very long :lol:

Apoleb
Nov 7th, 2011, 04:18 AM
I remember a time when you were on the Maria bandwagon too, which is why I don't expect this deal with Petra to last very long :lol:

:speakles:

Never, ever, ever was I on Maria's bandwagon. She was always on my shitlist along with the WS. I just liked her to win the FO for entertainment's sake.

ExtremespeedX
Nov 7th, 2011, 04:19 AM
People are still obviously voting based on achievements :o

Gamestyle wise, Petra is a far superior player. Generally serve and forehand style of play and finishing points at the net >>>> baseline grinding and retiring at like 25. Kvitova can play until 30 with her style and not skip most of the season because she's "tired" or "injured".

Craig.
Nov 7th, 2011, 04:21 AM
:speakles:

Never, ever, ever was I on Maria's bandwagon. She was always on my shitlist along with the WS. I just liked her to win the FO for entertainment's sake.

Never, really? Not even after her Fed Cup shushing of Shahar Peer in 2008? :p I remember certain posts :angel:

Apoleb
Nov 7th, 2011, 04:29 AM
Never, really? Not even after her Fed Cup shushing of Shahar Peer in 2008? :p I remember certain posts :angel:

I don't remember that match. It could be that I cheered for her for a match, but that doesn't mean I jumped on her bandwagon. :speakles: That's just preposterous. ESPECIALLY not when Justine was still playing. I will not allow my hating reputation to be tarnished like that. :p The only time I "liked" Maria was in Wimbly 04 when no one knew anything about her. :lol:

Craig.
Nov 7th, 2011, 04:40 AM
I don't remember that match. It could be that I cheered for her for a match, but that doesn't mean I jumped on her bandwagon. :speakles: That's just preposterous. ESPECIALLY not when Justine was still playing. I will not allow my hating reputation to be tarnished like that. :p The only time I "liked" Maria was in Wimbly 04 when no one knew anything about her. :lol:

I remember you saying something along the lines of ''Quickly becoming of a fan'' after that match. I'll go through the results thread and find the post whenever I have time :p

Apoleb
Nov 7th, 2011, 04:48 AM
I remember you saying something along the lines of ''Quickly becoming of a fan'' after that match. I'll go through the results thread and find the post whenever I have time :p

"quickly becoming". But it never became. Seriously, stop it. Me and Maria are like water and oil.

Craig.
Nov 7th, 2011, 04:50 AM
"quickly becoming". But it never became. Seriously, stop it. Me and Maria are like water and oil.

:lol: Okay :p

Johnbert
Nov 7th, 2011, 05:27 AM
i've got plans to create a thread "who's better: super-petra or navratilova"... :unsure: