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itzhak
Nov 4th, 2011, 07:50 AM
Shoulder is still too sore, Replaced By Elena Vesnina.

first day draw: Kirilenko will play Kvitova, Kuznetsova against Safarova.

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 4th, 2011, 07:57 AM
:cheer: Vesnina vs Safarova :D Czech's chances are getting better.:)

Excelscior
Nov 4th, 2011, 07:58 AM
@Imperfect Angel

So you think they're going to play Kutzie or Pav's vs Petra, or they may try both?

I hope this doesn't psyche out the Czech team, and make them think it's easy now. Russia still has some good players, who can play very well on any given day. Don't sleep!

PS: I see Vera would rather blow her shoulder out for the money and the points at YEC, than to preserve it for Fed Cup. :lol: :devil: :lol:

bobito
Nov 4th, 2011, 08:12 AM
I see Vera would rather blow her shoulder out for the money and the points at YEC, than to preserve it for Fed Cup. :lol: :devil: :lol:

That's a little unkind. So would most top 10 players if it came down to it.

This is a big blow for the Russians. Not only is Vera their best singles player but she's a very handy doubles player as well. This weakens them in three rubbers.

pav
Nov 4th, 2011, 08:44 AM
@Imperfect Angel

So you think they're going to play Kutzie or Pav's vs Petra, or they may try both?

I hope this doesn't psyche out the Czech team, and make them think it's easy now. Russia still has some good players, who can play very well on any given day. Don't sleep!

PS: I see Vera would rather blow her shoulder out for the money and the points at YEC, than to preserve it for Fed Cup. :lol: :devil: :lol:
Pathetic statement

the jamierbelyea
Nov 4th, 2011, 08:55 AM
That's a little unkind. So would most top 10 players if it came down to it.

This is a big blow for the Russians. Not only is Vera their best singles player but she's a very handy doubles player as well. This weakens them in three rubbers.

I disagree. Vesnina has proven she's a handy doubles player, and her skill vs. Vera in doubles is extremely close.

The one thing going for Kirilenko is she really can fire up a crowd. Take a look at her match against Azarenka last year in Moscow. If she brings that fire, and keeps it close against Petra, the crowd could egg towards a possible upset.

Sergius
Nov 4th, 2011, 08:57 AM
Don't screw up your H2H, Kiri :sobbing:
Nice that Sveta won't play first, she'll be more calm and determined, I think, feeling less pressure

Sombrerero loco
Nov 4th, 2011, 09:23 AM
id choose pavs instead of sveta right now...

Sergius
Nov 4th, 2011, 09:30 AM
^^^Nastya is injured

Jorn
Nov 4th, 2011, 09:41 AM
Kiri vs PK :eek:

goldenlox
Nov 4th, 2011, 10:30 AM
Sveta-Lucie is 2nd singles.

mac47
Nov 4th, 2011, 10:58 AM
As a Petra fan, I'm almost more worried about MaKiri (whom I love as a player). She might have the best hands at net of any singles player on tour right now. She also has a game that is already predicated on craftiness, touch, and placement rather than power, so she won't be dismayed at Petra's superiority in the latter department. And she's relatively tough mentally. An overachiever who loves to pull the upset. Whereas Bepa would have been an even match, with a favorable H2H record against Petra, that would have been some extra motive for a much-improved Petra to beat her. I don't know MaKiri's H2H with Petra.

EDIT: OMG, just realized that Kiri is 1-0 against her, and that the only time they've played was at Wimbledon!

I just wish Li'l Masha had a better serve. She could be top ten if she did.

Mistress of Evil
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:11 AM
Not that Russia stood any chance in the first place but now just NO, NO chance in hell they will win! :awww:

Jorn
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:16 AM
PK d MK
SK d LS
PK d SK
MK d LS
RUS d CZE

:)

Jorn
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:18 AM
Nastya/Elena scheduled in dubs, but ithink it will be Masha/Elena or Sceta

BikezAreForever!
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:29 AM
As a Petra fan, I'm almost more worried about MaKiri (whom I love as a player). She might have the best hands at net of any singles player on tour right now. She also has a game that is already predicated on craftiness, touch, and placement rather than power, so she won't be dismayed at Petra's superiority in the latter department. And she's relatively tough mentally. An overachiever who loves to pull the upset. Whereas Bepa would have been an even match, with a favorable H2H record against Petra, that would have been some extra motive for a much-improved Petra to beat her. I don't know MaKiri's H2H with Petra.

EDIT: OMG, just realized that Kiri is 1-0 against her, and that the only time they've played was at Wimbledon!

I just wish Li'l Masha had a better serve. She could be top ten if she did.

No , Kirilenko is 2-0 against PK. I was expecting her to pla yfor the reason of her having such a good H2H with Petra.

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HEAD TO HEAD SERIES
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RANK (SEED) YEAR EVENT SURFACE ROUND WINNER SCORE RANK (SEED)
61 2009 WIMBLEDON GRASSR 128 M. Kirilenko 6-4 6-4 59
69 (20) 2009 TORONTO HARDQ - R32 M. Kirilenko 6-1 6-0 58 (9)

Nikkiri
Nov 4th, 2011, 12:21 PM
It's a smart choice as they can always switch her in the second match. Really who is expected to beat Petra? no one and someone has to play. Positive H2H against both Lucie and Petra makes sense to give her a shot.

Melange
Nov 4th, 2011, 12:22 PM
:haha:

Setsuna.
Nov 4th, 2011, 02:04 PM
If Slava was in the Russian team, she would help them a lot imho. She could make a great doubles team with Kirilenko.

The Kaz
Nov 4th, 2011, 02:09 PM
If the Czech's don't win 5-0 I will be most surprised.

Excelscior
Nov 4th, 2011, 02:24 PM
As a Petra fan, I'm almost more worried about MaKiri (whom I love as a player). She might have the best hands at net of any singles player on tour right now. She also has a game that is already predicated on craftiness, touch, and placement rather than power, so she won't be dismayed at Petra's superiority in the latter department. And she's relatively tough mentally. An overachiever who loves to pull the upset. Whereas Bepa would have been an even match, with a favorable H2H record against Petra, that would have been some extra motive for a much-improved Petra to beat her. I don't know MaKiri's H2H with Petra.

EDIT: OMG, just realized that Kiri is 1-0 against her, and that the only time they've played was at Wimbledon!

I just wish Li'l Masha had a better serve. She could be top ten if she did.

Their 3-3 against each other now. Maybe Bepa was afraid to watch Petra take the lead, and lose 3 in row to her? :confused: :help: :confused:

As far as Makiri. We'll see. Petra's beat a lot of pushers recently. It could get ugly!!

Jane Lane
Nov 4th, 2011, 02:27 PM
Their 3-3 against each other now. Maybe Bepa was afraid to watch Petra take the lead, and lose 3 in row to her? :confused: :help: :confused:

:facepalm: They've alternated wins. Petra one the last one but Bepa won the one before that and so on.


Bepa :hug: NID. Get some good rest and go plead Sergey for forgiveness will you?

Excelscior
Nov 4th, 2011, 02:30 PM
They've alternated wins. Petra one the last one but Bepa won the one before that and so on.


Bepa :hug: NID. Get some good rest and go plead Sergey for forgiveness will you?

Ahem. For starters I was joking. And I meant if they played Bepa both matches against Petra and she lost. That would total 3in a row. Right?

That's what I meant.

Excelscior
Nov 4th, 2011, 02:33 PM
Tennis Channel, is actually broadcasting the Fed Cup final this Weekend.

I think it's 2pm on Saturday and 12pm on Sun.

Appears to be a tape delay (though they called it live).

mac47
Nov 4th, 2011, 03:08 PM
Ahem. For starters I was joking. And I meant if they played Bepa both matches against Petra and she lost. That would total 3in a row. Right?

That's what I meant.

I don't think they're allowed to play the same player vs Petra twice, are they?

Svetlana)))
Nov 4th, 2011, 03:19 PM
How is Safarova's form? Sorry I haven't been checking for her.

bobito
Nov 4th, 2011, 03:32 PM
How is Safarova's form? Sorry I haven't been checking for her.

Last two outings she was a Semi-finalist in Linz and then semi-finalist in Moscow.

No , Kirilenko is 2-0 against PK. I was expecting her to play for the reason of her having such a good H2H with Petra.


I think we can take the H2H with a pinch of salt since both matches were in 2009. Petra's a different prospect entirely now.

Shivank17
Nov 4th, 2011, 05:21 PM
Nooo.Russia. :crying2:


Isn't the final in Moscow?

Hapsara
Nov 4th, 2011, 05:36 PM
Why not Pavlyuchenkova in singles.....

Shivank17
Nov 4th, 2011, 05:44 PM
So it is in Russia.
Shazza is in Russia too. :oh:
Maybe she plans a secret visit. :oh: Naaaaa,too delusional. :crying2:
God save Russia! :sobbing:

C. Drone
Nov 4th, 2011, 05:53 PM
Why not Pavlyuchenkova in singles.....

because they want to win?

Petronius
Nov 4th, 2011, 05:55 PM
Tennis Channel, is actually broadcasting the Fed Cup final this Weekend.

I think it's 2pm on Saturday and 12pm on Sun.

Appears to be a tape delay (though they called it live).

Hey Excelscior,

you can also watch the final here (live coverage, but Czech commentary only):

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ct4/zive-vysilani/

Petra is scheduled to play at 11:00 CET (I think it's 5:00 a.m. New York time)

Excelscior
Nov 4th, 2011, 06:05 PM
Hey Excelscior,

you can also watch the final here (live coverage, but Czech commentary only):

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ct4/zive-vysilani/

Petra is scheduled to play at 11:00 CET (I think it's 5:00 a.m. New York time)

Thanks.

I think we are 7hrs behind Moscow, and the match Saturday is supposed to be 2pm local time; which would make it 7am NY time?

I'll be up.

bobito
Nov 4th, 2011, 06:18 PM
Why not Pavlyuchenkova in singles.....

While Pavlyuchenkova might seem to be the obvious choice, the Russians appear to have staked a lot on the ultra-slow court surface. Unfortunately, that surface might cause Pavlyuchenkova more problems than Kvitova (who has just beaten the best players in the World on Rebound Ace). I think they are hoping that Kirilenko might be able to come up with something. Also, Pavlyuchenkova doesn't appear to be in the greatest form at the moment, having lost 3 of her last 4 matches.

It does betray some uncertainty though when a player who wasn't originally in the team and who hasn't been selected to play a Fed Cup match since 2006 is suddenly promoted to play the opening singles rubber.

Coconut91
Nov 4th, 2011, 06:26 PM
because they want to win?

With fans like you who needs haters :lol: ;)

Pavs is not in the best of the moments, but neither is Sveta :confused: I guess Kiri is the most in form player on the team. But what is the difference, if Petra is going to win both her matches anyway...

I don't see the point of all this secrecy from Russia :lol:

bobito
Nov 4th, 2011, 06:33 PM
I don't see the point of all this secrecy from Russia :lol:

I'm not sure it's secrecy so much as panic and not knowing what to do. :scared:

C. Drone
Nov 4th, 2011, 06:57 PM
With fans like you who needs haters :lol: ;)

Pavs is not in the best of the moments, but neither is Sveta :confused: I guess Kiri is the most in form player on the team. But what is the difference, if Petra is going to win both her matches anyway...

I don't see the point of all this secrecy from Russia :lol:

I´m just bit annoyed by this season ending Nastya pulled... and hard to be any positive.
at least with FED cup she got a "get out of Bali, free" card.

madmax
Nov 4th, 2011, 06:57 PM
I think it's time for Kiri to slow down KvittyWagon a bit, so I'll say PUSH HER TO DEATH MASHA:cheer:

Coconut91
Nov 4th, 2011, 07:04 PM
I'm not sure it's secrecy so much as panic and not knowing what to do. :scared:

Yeah. All they have left is surprise factor, I guess. :lol:

Queen Petra Fan
Nov 4th, 2011, 07:12 PM
I think it's time for Kiri to slow down KvittyWagon a bit, so I'll say PUSH HER TO DEATH MASHA:cheer:

DREAM ON!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

LCS
Nov 4th, 2011, 07:16 PM
What a mess now that Vera is out :help: Russia needs plenty of guts here..

Viktymise
Nov 4th, 2011, 07:17 PM
because they want to win?

You did see Kuznetsova's level at Moscow, right?

This tie is NID.

$uricate
Nov 4th, 2011, 07:21 PM
Maybe Russia will pull a big surprise and put big Masha up instead :hearts:

Then after the initial suprise wears off it will become a demolition job by Petra :sobbing:

Excelscior
Nov 4th, 2011, 07:22 PM
DREAM ON!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I could be wrong, but I think Madmax kinda likes Kvitty (unless I'm confusing them with someone else). This (their Makiri prediction/wish) appears to be all in fun.

Queen Petra Fan
Nov 4th, 2011, 07:38 PM
What a mess now that Vera is out :help: Russia needs plenty of guts here..

They need more than guts. . . they need nuts.

Jorn
Nov 4th, 2011, 07:52 PM
In dubs Maria's are better than Kveta's :)


Ithink 2-2 standing before the dubs...

bobito
Nov 4th, 2011, 08:11 PM
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C. Drone
Nov 4th, 2011, 08:12 PM
You did see Kuznetsova's level at Moscow, right?

This tie is NID.

lets just say with Vera (and Kiri) playing, Sveta and Nastia would be 3rd and 4th choice. :lol:

Jane Lane
Nov 4th, 2011, 08:21 PM
Wait, is Katya on the team at all? Because I know she was named originally but then Tarpy put Kiri on and Lena V is replacing Bepa?

Sergius
Nov 4th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Wait, is Katya on the team at all? Because I know she was named originally but then Tarpy put Kiri on and Lena V is replacing Bepa?

She is a lefty, so I think she just was a hitting partner for the team

itzhak
Nov 4th, 2011, 09:45 PM
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mac47
Nov 4th, 2011, 10:43 PM
Thanks for that video, itzhak. Li'l Masha is such a cute little bundle of fierce determination. I hope to watch the tie tomorrow.

Jorn
Nov 5th, 2011, 11:21 AM
PK d MK 62 62.

4 to go... ;)