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MakarovaFan
Oct 28th, 2011, 04:25 PM
Yes i hate her(for all you fools,hate as in her as a tennis player as we are on a TENNIS BOARD), but no this is not a hate thread.


Last year when she clinched YE #1 , even without a major, you couldn't knock her last 4 months of the season: sweeping the last 4 PMs, GS SF and making the Finals of the YEC

And despite Kim owning 2 majors AND the YEC, by the spring of this year you really couldn't knock Wozniakc's 52 week results: her start to 2011 was GS SF and then making the Finals of the next 3 PM events(winning 2 Dubai & IW), so in essence she had 2 GS SFs, 6 PM titles and YEC Final!!! Hate her on not THAT was top level consistency

But now that her 2010 results have fallen off, all we are left with is her 2011 results and well in all honesty it looks quite weak, especially for a number 1:2 GS SFs (which 6 other players have matched or bettered), 2 PM titles,4 other titles in total(2 of which were MMs) and well thats about it!! She has 4 1st losses, 2 3rd losses, 2 4rd losses and failed to reach atleast the QF of 2/4 majors.......even compared to past slamless YE #1s(Davenport,Jankovic and Hingis) Woz's season looks very very weak. I guess more than anything this just highlights how shitty the tour is on a whole .

theFutureisNow
Oct 28th, 2011, 04:30 PM
There's not much point in beating a dead horse, but yeah, you are correct.

Caro's year is unquestionably at least the 2nd worst ever for a year end #1, and might be worse than Jankovics' also depending on your perspective.

Sp!ffy
Oct 28th, 2011, 04:31 PM
Her entire career has been empty.

ElusiveChanteuse
Oct 28th, 2011, 04:32 PM
Worse than last year for sure.

pov
Oct 28th, 2011, 04:33 PM
If the most successful player's season was "empty" that means everyone's season was "empty".

gulzhan
Oct 28th, 2011, 04:33 PM
She certainly overachieved :shrug: If that feels as empty for her and her fans, sorry, she ain't getting anything more than she did this year :p

pov
Oct 28th, 2011, 04:35 PM
Yes i hate her,

:eek: You hate someone you don't even know who has harmed no one and is just living her life pursuing her chosen career?

MakarovaFan
Oct 28th, 2011, 04:36 PM
:eek: You hate someone you don't even know who has harmed no one and is just living her life pursuing her chosen career?


I didnt say i hate her AS A PERSON.....i hate her as a player, same as Nadal and Serena....and i have every right as i know and have SEEN their games.....please don't get it twisted

spencercarlos
Oct 28th, 2011, 04:42 PM
There's not much point in beating a dead horse, but yeah, you are correct.

Caro's year is unquestionably at least the 2nd worst ever for a year end #1, and might be worse than Jankovics' also depending on your perspective.
Jankovic made a slam final that year, that alone makes her better than Wozniaki´s 2011.... Jakovic made a similar Caro´s 2010 run winning something like 3 or 4 events i a row... YEC SF 2008.

GS Record comparisson. Janko´s 2008 SF SF 4R RU >> Caro´s 2011 SF 3R 4R SF


Wozniacki did not have that this year either. Only a delusional fan would say that Wozniacki´s 2011 > Jankovic´s 2008...

Not even talking about the field.

Jorn
Oct 28th, 2011, 04:56 PM
3 million US$ won just in Prize money, so she's not empty handed and needs a loan... :)

Valanga
Oct 28th, 2011, 04:56 PM
Rory Mcilroy disagrees

Laura_VeeFan
Oct 28th, 2011, 05:02 PM
I think she had a good start to the year, winning Dubai and IW and getting to the semis of the Australian, but after that it has been a bit lacklustre (apart from that lucky semi at the US). It's certainly not good for a world no. 1

No1Curr
Oct 28th, 2011, 06:25 PM
Her entire career has been empty.

And will remain so.

JCTennisFan
Oct 28th, 2011, 06:26 PM
Ive felt that her entire career has been empty? I just used to think she could possibly bring it up to the next level, which I no longer believe.

Jimmie48
Oct 28th, 2011, 06:32 PM
I´m very sure at least 95% of all active players on tour would want to have her her "empty" career instantly..

dsanders06
Oct 28th, 2011, 06:38 PM
I´m very sure at least 95% of all active players on tour would want to have her her "empty" career instantly..

If you're #1, 100% of the rest of the field should want your results that season, but Kvitova, Li and Sharapova to name just 3 wouldn't trade their season for Wozniacki's for the world.

barmaid
Oct 28th, 2011, 06:38 PM
Caro is certainly an "enigma" for sure it is hard to understand how this gal can finish the year as a #1 player :worship:and yet can show such poor results,:eek: now granted they aren't all insignificent or she wouldn't have that ranking but "wake up" girl:hearts:, get a new coach...listen to what he has to say..you have all the "tools" just lacking in the brain department when you don't take your game seriously enough to improve it!:sad:

Barmaid:wavey:

Jimmie48
Oct 28th, 2011, 06:42 PM
If you're #1, 100% of the rest of the field should want your results that season, but Kvitova, Li and Sharapova to name just 3 wouldn't trade their season for Wozniacki's for the world.

Uh yes, i'm rather sure at least Sharapova would, aside from the one slam F her year was worse in every aspect compared to Caro's.

JCTennisFan
Oct 28th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Caro is certainly an "enigma" for sure it is hard to understand how this gal can finish the year as a #1 player :worship:and yet can show such poor results,:eek: now granted they aren't all insignificent or she wouldn't have that ranking but "wake up" girl:hearts:, get a new coach...listen to what he has to say..you have all the "tools" just lacking in the brain department when you don't take your game seriously enough to improve it!:sad:

Barmaid:wavey:

This. Ive been saying for some time now that she needs to work on that FH technique desperately. Will she ever be good on that wing? Probably not... but she could atleast make it vastly more stable. Her whole team almost kind of seems like they dont even notice that she has a horrendous forehand.... which is alarming and bodes very badly for her long term.

dsanders06
Oct 28th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Uh yes, i'm rather sure at least Sharapova would, aside from the one slam F her year was worse in every aspect compared to Caro's.

"Aside from one Slam F" - yes, aside from a result that's much bigger than any that Woz has achieved in more than 2 years :haha:

You're actually crazy if you honestly think Maria would swap a Wimbledon final for titles in Copenhagen, Brussels and New Haven :lol:

goldenlox
Oct 28th, 2011, 06:47 PM
It was an unusual year because she was making finals half the time from Rogers Cup in 2010 right thru Brussel 2011. I think 11 finals, 8 titles in 18 tournaments, semis USO, AO.
Then she didnt have the hardcourt season a lot of fans thought she would have.

So I dont know. In general, I think 6 titles, 8 finals, 11 semis including 2 majors, and 51 weeks at #1 is something good, and of course, she has to win majors to really show she can handle the biggest moments

Jimmie48
Oct 28th, 2011, 06:49 PM
"Aside from one Slam F" - yes, aside from a result that's much bigger than any that Woz has achieved in more than 2 years :haha:



So a single slam F is worth more than several mandatory titles? :lol:

Matt01
Oct 28th, 2011, 07:23 PM
Her entire career has been empty.

And will remain so.


Troll alert.

Maza1987
Oct 31st, 2011, 05:34 PM
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edificio
Oct 31st, 2011, 05:36 PM
She won a good number of titles, and she defended some titles. It was pretty good year. However, for a no. 1, people expect success at slams. She was left wanting. Perhaps 2012 will be here year.

madmax
Oct 31st, 2011, 05:37 PM
if Kuznetsova wasn't such a mental case Pushniacki would be ranked 3rd or 4th now anyway and all this talk would be irrelevant...blame all the mental midgets of the tour who let this vulture to feast on them and grab undeserved points

MakarovaFan
Oct 31st, 2011, 08:29 PM
So a single slam F is worth more than several mandatory titles? :lol:

Sharapova made a GS F,GS SF, won 2 PMs and F in Miami.....so yes im pretty sure she wouldn't want Caroline's season at all. And worse how so?? She did better at the slams AND better at the PMs plus she equaled her in PM titles 2=2; Im sorry but winning 6 titles, half of which were just about meaningless MM's doesn't equate to "better" than Maria's season.

valac222
Oct 31st, 2011, 09:16 PM
I´m very sure at least 95% of all active players on tour would want to have her her "empty" career instantly..

No doubt, but a #1 should not be compared to 95%. And I guess even You admit, what she produced in the second half of the year is not a #1 thing. If she continue like that in the first half of the next year she willbe out of top 3 (maybe 5).

bandabou
Oct 31st, 2011, 09:19 PM
She has stalled...she hasn't shown progress from last season. Seems like ever since the lost to Petkovic, she kinda lost her aura. Then Goerges added more insult to the injury.

She needs a major asap.

alex.2812
Oct 31st, 2011, 09:24 PM
For me it's more about the way she lost matches than her results themselves.

Novichok
Oct 31st, 2011, 09:31 PM
Nope, I don't. Caroline had a good year. Hopefully 2012 will be better.

BikezAreForever!
Oct 31st, 2011, 09:57 PM
She has been declining in 2011.

Valanga
Oct 31st, 2011, 10:01 PM
I am surprised Caro didn't reach another final this year. Her game went to sleep with fishes after Miami.
She needs this off season to retool(if she wants) her game and try to reach a GS F in 2012

otherwise I can't see that happen because there will be more and more players able to read her game

Mary Cherry.
Oct 31st, 2011, 10:13 PM
For an empty 2011, this forum was filled with threads about her this year :oh:


But it does definitely feel like she's underachieved, mainly because what was meant to be her best time of year (the USO Series onwards) turned out to be her worst.

The Kaz
Nov 1st, 2011, 01:16 AM
So a single slam F is worth more than several mandatory titles? :lol:

Caro only won 1 mandatory title though ;)

ExtremespeedX
Nov 1st, 2011, 01:43 AM
Not really, Wozniacki reached her peak in 2010, she'll drop out of top 10 in 2012. Looping high balls into middle of the court can only take you so far :shrug: 2011 was expected, 2012 will be even worse.

Rollo
Nov 1st, 2011, 01:43 AM
Her game was going forward towards the end of last year. Even though she lost the final of the YEC to Kim Clijsters it was a high quality match where she did some attacking to complement her solid defence.

She only went backwards this year. Until she develops more of a weapon she will not win majors.

Steven.
Nov 1st, 2011, 02:13 AM
I'm going to get bashed for this, but I'm sure Maria would rather keep her Rome title than win Indian Wells. I mean it is her first tier 1 red claycourt title.

And yeah, Wozniacki's year sucked ass. After Indian Wells and CHarleston, I thought she would've continued to dominate the tour. Yet as the year went on, her results became worse and worse.

Matt01
Nov 1st, 2011, 05:56 PM
I'm going to get bashed for this, but I'm sure Maria would rather keep her Rome title than win Indian Wells. I mean it is her first tier 1 red claycourt title.


This is probably true. Pova has already won IW. :shrug: But that doesn't change the fact that IW is a bigger title than Rome.

madmax
Nov 1st, 2011, 05:58 PM
This is probably true. Pova has already won IW. :shrug: But that doesn't change the fact that IW is a bigger title than Rome.

Prestige wise? Nonsense...
Rome is the biggest red clay title out there not named RG, IW is not even on the same plane as Miami (especiallly for women). Let's get real here

goldenlox
Nov 1st, 2011, 05:59 PM
Caroline had her chance for a slam final this year.
Match point on her serve against Li in the AO semis for her 2nd slam final.
She has to close those out in the future.
The other slam semi she was in, Serena was too good.

Matt01
Nov 1st, 2011, 06:13 PM
Prestige wise? Nonsense...
Rome is the biggest red clay title out there not named RG, IW is not even on the same plane as Miami (especiallly for women). Let's get real here


I'm not talking about prestige. There are a lot of small tournaments with a lot of prestige. You get more points for IW than fo winning Rome, more money, the field is bigger etc...IW title is bigger than Rome, fact not opinion. :bigwave: