in 2009 Caro's BFF Aga gave Caro a spot in the SF by defeating Caro's other BFF Vika :p

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I think the same thing will happen in 2011 :hearts:

Caro and Piotr probably already told Aga to defeat Vera in 3 sets and lose to Petra in straight sets :lol: in that case:

Petra 30 60
Caro 12 35
Vera 12 35
Aga 12 35

it will come down to games and I am sure there is a way for Caro to advance :dance:

with BFF like these, Caro will never walk alone :hug:

http://i41.tinypic.com/wqogli.jpg

SwingVolley93

Oct 27th, 2011, 05:47 PM

Your so stupid and make the dumbest thread honestly. :wavey:

Meelis

Oct 27th, 2011, 05:47 PM

Caro and Piotr probably already told Aga to defeat Vera in straight sets and lose to Petra in straight sets :lol:

In that case Aga would qualify :p

rnwerner

Oct 27th, 2011, 05:48 PM

But it is true:

If RADW. beats ZVONA. 2-1
If KVITOVA beats RADW. 2-0

We have
WOZ 1-2 (3-5)
RADW 1-2 (3-5)
ZVON 1-2 (3-5)

NA-GOAT

Oct 27th, 2011, 05:50 PM

In that case Aga would qualify :p

fixed it to Aga d Vera in 3s :drool:

ElusiveChanteuse

Oct 27th, 2011, 05:52 PM

Aga should just lose both matches in straights and Caro will still advance, right?:oh: That's the easiest thing.:oh:

Meelis

Oct 27th, 2011, 05:53 PM

Aga should just lose both matches in straights and Caro will still advance, right?:oh:

No, Vera would have 2 wins then ;)

Patrick345

Oct 27th, 2011, 05:53 PM

Aga should just lose both matches in straights and Caro will still advance, right?:oh: That's the easiest thing.:oh:

If Radwanska loses Zvonareva has two wins. ;)

This should be very close to it...

Radwanska needs to win 2-1 sets against Zvonareva and have a game differential of at least plus six (possibly seven) total games. Then Wozniacki would be ahead of Zvonareva.

Then Kvitova would have to beat Radwanska, and not drop more than two games.

So very unlikely.

Jimmie48

Oct 27th, 2011, 05:54 PM

I don't want it to happen, let players advance that are fully fit to play.

ElusiveChanteuse

Oct 27th, 2011, 05:55 PM

Oh ok..totally forgotten about Bepa wins.:oh:

NA-GOAT

Oct 27th, 2011, 05:59 PM

does anybody know what dance Caro and Piotr are doing in the video :shrug: is it like a Polish dance or Danish dance :haha:

TheBoiledEgg

Oct 27th, 2011, 06:00 PM

it doesnt matter which way you look at it
Wozniacki is out

even if Radwanska wins this 6-0 6-7 6-0
and then loses 0-6 0-6 to Kvitova

NA-GOAT

Oct 27th, 2011, 06:01 PM

it doesnt matter which way you look at it
Wozniacki is out

even if Radwanska wins this 6-0 6-7 6-0
and then loses 0-6 0-6 to Kvitova

are you sure :confused:

then why the commentator say Wozniacki must wait for the other results to find out if she reach SF :help:

TheBoiledEgg

Oct 27th, 2011, 06:02 PM

are you sure :confused:

then why the commentator say Wozniacki must wait for the other results to find out if she reach SF :help:

cos they havent got a clue

NA-GOAT

Oct 27th, 2011, 06:05 PM

Wozniacki would advance if Radwanska beat Zvonareva 61 46 63 and lost to Kvitova 26 16 :bigwave:

Patrick345

Oct 27th, 2011, 06:14 PM

it doesnt matter which way you look at it
Wozniacki is out

even if Radwanska wins this 6-0 6-7 6-0
and then loses 0-6 0-6 to Kvitova

No there is still a theoretical possibility. It´s a very slim margin, but possible.

For example

Radwanska wins 6-2 6-7 6-2.
Kvitova wins 6-1 6-1.

34-41 Wozniacki
33-40 Radwanska
33-41 Zvonareva

Aramitz_II

Oct 27th, 2011, 06:22 PM

If Radwanska loses Zvonareva has two wins. ;)

This should be very close to it...

Radwanska needs to win 2-1 sets against Zvonareva and have a game differential of at least plus six (possibly seven) total games. Then Wozniacki would be ahead of Zvonareva.

Then Kvitova would have to beat Radwanska, and not drop more than two games.

So very unlikely.

the Kvitova maches dont acount in the tiebreakers

Caro is don

Aramitz_II

Oct 27th, 2011, 06:24 PM

are you sure :confused:

then why the commentator say Wozniacki must wait for the other results to find out if she reach SF :help:

Sport comentators are idiots. In Danish TV they use to call theese kind calculation for higher Mathematics

Aramitz_II

Oct 27th, 2011, 06:26 PM

Wozniacki would advance if Radwanska beat Zvonareva 61 46 63 and lost to Kvitova 26 16 :bigwave:

No the Kvitova numbers don't count in the tiebreaker

Patrick345

Oct 27th, 2011, 06:26 PM

the Kvitova maches dont acount in the tiebreakers

Caro is don

That´s what I thought as well, but I have been told otherwise. ;)

One way or the other. If Zvonareva wins two more games, Wozniacki is out 100%.

gulzhan

Oct 27th, 2011, 07:21 PM

Caro and Piotr probably already told Aga to defeat Vera in 3 sets and lose to Petra in straight sets :lol: in that case:

I am afraid this is what's happening now :tape:

bandabou

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:16 PM

:lol: Ah Aga such a nice friend..then you better win tomorrow then, so YOU can go through. Enough with the helping of Caro all the time. :lol:

rnwerner

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:22 PM

Is it right that Zvonareva is out ??

I dont think so.

WOZ 34-41 games
ZVON 35-37 games

Is this true??

John.

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:24 PM

ES have said Zvonareva is out, but no mention of Wozniacki :confused:

NA-GOAT

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:26 PM

so Radwanska is already in SF ???

anybody know :help:

killerqueen

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:27 PM

I'm pretty sure it's Woz who's out, not Vera? :confused:

Caro and Vera are both 1-2, and 3-5 in sets.

Caro is 34-41 so -7 in won games
Vera is 35-37 so -2 in won games, plus she won a game more than Caroline (35 to Woz's 34)

Additionally, Vera beat Caroline.

How can Vera be out? Surely it's between her and Aga now? :confused:

Geertvg

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:27 PM

Seriously so what is happening now? :p

TheBoiledEgg

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:27 PM

so Radwanska is already in SF ???

anybody know :help:

Radwanska has to win a set tomorrow
a 7-6 7-6 loss will mean she's out and Vera in SF

its between Vera and Aga

lang26

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:28 PM

If Aggie just WIn a set agasint Perta she in But if Perta Beat her in 2 set Caro in Semi

killerqueen

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:29 PM

If Aggie just WIn a set agasint Perta she in But if Perta Beat her in 2 set Caro in Semi

No, if Petra beats her in straights, it's Vera who goes through, not Caro?

rnwerner

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:29 PM

VERA has 35-37 games
WOZ has 34-41 games

So, Vera is definitely BETTER than Woz.

AGA has 27-30 games.
If AGA loses in two sets: Her games percentage is worse than VERAs.

I think:

IF RADWANSKA WINS A SET: Radwanska IN THE SEMIS

IF RADWANSKA LOSES 0-2: VERA is IN THE SEMIS

Sombrerero loco

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:31 PM

go aga, defeat kvitova!!

lang26

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:31 PM

No, if Petra beats her in straights, it's Vera who goes through, not Caro?

Wat You talking out Vera Out

TheBoiledEgg

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:32 PM

Wat You talking out Vera Out

Vera is NOT out
Caro is OUT

fouc

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:32 PM

how many games Aga needs to advance?

NA-GOAT

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:32 PM

I don't think anybody knows ... some people said Vera is out ... others said Caro is out :help:

killerqueen

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:33 PM

Wat You talking out Vera Out

Check my post above, Vera's record is better than Caro's in every way.

They have identical 1-2 matches, 3-5 sets records.
Vera has a better game win/loss ratio than Caroline.
Vera additionally beat Caroline in their match.

Daniel

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:34 PM

Aga please make it to the sf :o :clap2:

TheBoiledEgg

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:34 PM

how many games Aga needs to advance?

not games anymore
1 set

killerqueen

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:34 PM

how many games Aga needs to advance?

She just needs to win a set, any score. If she loses in straights it doesn't matter how many games she wins, because Zvonareva's game record will always be better.

rnwerner

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:35 PM

It's for sure:

WOZ is out.
RADWANSKA has to win ONE SET.
If Radwanska loses 0-2: VERA is in the SEMIS.

fouc

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:37 PM

^^
thanks for all the answers :)

edificio

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:38 PM

It's for sure:

WOZ is out.
RADWANSKA has to win ONE SET.
If Radwanska loses 0-2: VERA is in the SEMIS.

Official source?

This thread gave me a headache with the permutations.

rnwerner

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:41 PM

Vera and Woz are 3-5 in sets. Therefore the PECENTAGE of GAMES counts:

VERA has 35-37 games
WOZ has 34-41 games

So, Vera is definitely BETTER than Woz.

AGA has 27-30 games (after two matches)
If AGA loses in two sets: Her games percentage is worse than VERAs.
(because she has already MINUS 3 (and Vera has MINUS 2))

Therefore:
IF RADWANSKA WINS A SET: Radwanska IN THE SEMIS
IF RADWANSKA LOSES 0-2: VERA is IN THE SEMIS (with the best GAMES percentage of those three players who have 3-5 in sets)

killerqueen

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:41 PM

Official source?

This thread gave me a headache with the permutations.

I don't think there's an "official" source yet, but if the rules are followed the way their presented, Vera is always going to be ahead of Caroline.

bandabou

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:43 PM

Caro's out..that was obvious already when Vera won the 1st set in such lopsided fashion AND Vera already beat Caro, so no way Caro could go over Vera.

Aramitz_II

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:44 PM

I don't think anybody knows ... some people said Vera is out ... others said Caro is out :help:

The thing is that it boils down to the question if the kvitowa macthes count. I dont think they do, but i am not sure it is unclear in the ruleset

dsanders06

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:47 PM

Anyone else think Petra might actually tank a set to Radwanska? Faced with the (very unlikely, but still possible) prospect of playing either Zvonareva or Radwanska again in the final, she'd probably rather Radwanska :lol:

Apoleb

Oct 27th, 2011, 08:50 PM

Anyone else think Petra might actually tank a set to Radwanska? Faced with the (very unlikely, but still possible) prospect of playing either Zvonareva or Radwanska again in the final, she'd probably rather Radwanska :lol:

Good point. She's terrified by Vera. Should be fun.