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neorules
Oct 27th, 2011, 05:22 AM
With the situation in tennis as it is now, do you think a player from a financially challenged family can make it to the pro level? I used to think so-- but now i'm not sure if its possible.

BluSthil
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:12 AM
Only if someone important recognizes your potential and feels like your worth the investment.

ranfurly
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:15 AM
only if they take they ass down to the welfare, trust me there's more juniors than pros getting assistance out there Miss Onnasis

VeeJJ
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:41 AM
Only if someone important recognizes your potential and feels like your worth the investment.

This.

Tennis has gotten so ridiculously expensive. It's a shame because at lot of talented plays fall under this. And the rich's one who don't really care end up playing, ex. LaPush.

The Kaz
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:44 AM
This.

Tennis has gotten so ridiculously expensive. It's a shame because at lot of talented plays fall under this. And the rich's one who don't really care end up playing, ex. LaPush.

Are you talking about Anna Lapushchenkova?

VeeJJ
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:46 AM
Yep.

Tenisci
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:58 AM
With the situation in tennis as it is now, do you think a player from a financially challenged family can make it to the pro level? I used to think so-- but now i'm not sure if its possible.


Even if playing 10ks are expensive. You have to have money. I am sorry :sad:

Miracle Worker
Oct 27th, 2011, 08:34 AM
First of all you have to have talent and skills to play tennis. Then you don't have to have so much money.

Of course if you don't have talent or skills then you have to have a lot of money.

Tenisci
Oct 27th, 2011, 08:43 AM
First of all you have to have talent and skills to play tennis. Then you don't have to have so much money.

Of course if you don't have talent or skills then you have to have a lot of money.

exactly :)

You can buy WCs and find a good partner if you have money :)

Petkorazzi
Oct 27th, 2011, 08:50 AM
I think it's ridiculous how the tourneys in ITFs have had the same prize money in forever, they need to upgrade 10ks into 15ks ASAP. :help: We actually had a poster who did a big petition thing about it and it had tons of signatures, but he never sent it to the ITF I think and kept ignoring every question/PM about it. :spit:

paul_masterton
Oct 27th, 2011, 09:21 AM
I think it's ridiculous how the tourneys in ITFs have had the same prize money in forever, they need to upgrade 10ks into 15ks ASAP. :help: We actually had a poster who did a big petition thing about it and it had tons of signatures, but he never sent it to the ITF I think and kept ignoring every question/PM about it. :spit:

That's a lie. I sent it to the ITF and they said they had no plans to alter the tournament structure, but they were working at helping educate players financially and encourage tournaments, where possible to offer better subsidised housing and food.

And going through my pm's, I noly got 2 or three messages about it, all replied to.

The point is it doesn't matter how talented you are, it costs so much to hire a court and get the equipment for most it's a complete non-starter as they never get the opportunity to even be spotted by a coach or sponsor who can take them on.

Miss Amor
Oct 27th, 2011, 09:33 AM
I kept on reading the title as 'Can the financially poor JJ player make it to the pro level anymore'. Must be too early for me.

SoBizarre
Oct 27th, 2011, 09:35 AM
I don't think anything has changed. If a kid shows some talent, great character and is physically promising, you will find a sponsor. Great devotion is needed on parents' side because you might need to move to USA and work dishwasher ;) to support your offspring and yourself until you get that first contract, just like Sharapova's father did, but you will make it eventually.

But if a kid is just average, or you don't want to give up the financial control, you need some serious cash - so if you have no assets and nobody to help you, you are screwed. To my understanding it was always like that.

Miracle Worker
Oct 27th, 2011, 09:44 AM
People please...

Even in Poland you're able to practice tennis every day and you don't have to spend more than 1000euros per month... And This is not that large sum of money.

Mana
Oct 27th, 2011, 09:48 AM
Nope. Look at Kairangi Vano. A prime example of this.

The Kaz
Oct 27th, 2011, 09:49 AM
People please...

Even in Poland you're able to practice tennis every day and you don't have to spend more than 1000euros per month... And This is not that large sum of money.

Yes that is a large sum for most people :unsure:

Archer16
Oct 27th, 2011, 09:49 AM
People please...

Even in Poland you're able to practice tennis every day and you don't have to spend more than 1000euros per month... And This is not that large sum of money.
For whom? In Eastern Europe that's big money, and even for an average Western European family that's not a negligible sum to be spent each month.

pla
Oct 27th, 2011, 10:03 AM
People please...

Even in Poland you're able to practice tennis every day and you don't have to spend more than 1000euros per month... And This is not that large sum of money.

Just for information, take a look at the Human Development Index and see where Poland stands: Very high human development (developed countries)
(source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index))

Poland is by no means a poor country, it has enough infrastructure, there are adequate trainers and so on. A junior can still find a reasonable sponsor in a country being part of the developed countries, although I guess it's still difficult.

On topic, it is quite hard I believe. No matter the amount of talent a junior still needs a good professional coach- it costs. Without an adequate physical preparation, it's much more difficult (costs again). Travelling to junior tournaments in order to acquire some experience- costs again.

It's not impossible of course, but unless a federation or a big sponsor is behind, or going to a puppy mill (an academy), it's extremely difficult.

Miracle Worker
Oct 27th, 2011, 10:18 AM
Ok :)

Now we know that 1000euros it's large sum of money. For me too :oh:

Daruma.
Oct 27th, 2011, 10:28 AM
People please...

Even in Poland you're able to practice tennis every day and you don't have to spend more than 1000euros per month... And This is not that large sum of money.

If you can afford to pay 1000 euros for playing tennis per month, I don't think you are a "financially poor jr player". Not to mention all the other things that comes with playing tennis (coaching, rackets, strings, equipments, outfits etc).

As for the question of OP, I'd say NO.

Tenisci
Oct 27th, 2011, 10:35 AM
If you can afford to pay 1000 euros for playing tennis per month, I don't think you are a "financially poor jr player". Not to mention all the other things that comes with playing tennis (coaching, rackets, strings, equipments, outfits etc).

As for the question of OP, I'd say NO.

:)

Joe.
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:36 PM
People please...

Even in Poland you're able to practice tennis every day and you don't have to spend more than 1000euros per month... And This is not that large sum of money.

An average working family cannot afford to pay 1000 euros a month on their childs tennis. You obviously come from money....welcome to the real world. :wave:

Mightymirza
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:45 PM
Only if someone important recognizes your potential and feels like your worth the investment.

This,...

Maza1987
Oct 27th, 2011, 01:17 PM
I'm sorry, WTF. Who was that poster who said 1000euros is not a lot of money. That is 12k a year. That is not much less than the average yearly salary here in the UK. Lulz. I can only hope you were attempting to be facetious.

pesto
Oct 27th, 2011, 02:03 PM
It's going to depend isn't it?

Even in a rich western country it's going to be a postcode lottery. If you live somewhere where there are decent facilities, and the possibility of being spotted and supported by your national tennis federation, maybe you have a chance, even if your parents can't support you all the way. If you live somewhere more out of the way, it'll be much harder.

But I would think even then, it'll only go down to mid-range earners who can cart the kids around, push for funding help, and be generally encouraging. I doubt whether many really poor kids start tennis in the first place.

marineblue
Oct 27th, 2011, 02:25 PM
Depends on where you live, I would say.

pov
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:02 PM
With the situation in tennis as it is now, do you think a player from a financially challenged family can make it to the pro level? I used to think so-- but now i'm not sure if its possible.
IMO it's definitely possible. It's tougher of course but not that much tougher than making it in many other things.