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Miracle Worker
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Amazing Vera :hearts:

Please win with Agnieszka now :sobbing:

How to win with pushers? - take a risk and use lines :oh:

moodin0931
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Eww.

Shinjiro
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Good stuff Vera, and I'm not talking about the naked pictures.

Steff_forever
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:32 PM
:bounce: :yeah: :bounce:

:smooch:

saul1333
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Good stuff :yeah:

Marionated
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:33 PM
Vera :worship: played amazingly in patches.

SwingVolley93
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:33 PM
The tennis Gods are shining on us! Wozniacki is a complete and utter joke! Glad this clown lost and Vera closed it out, something Aga was afraid to do. So happy! :cheer:

Emiel Goelen
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:33 PM
Good match Vera! Now please beat Aga too :)

Kairi
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:33 PM
:hysteric:

Jane Lane
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:33 PM
Da-fucking-vai. That is all. Anybody who calls her a pusher, step to the BHs of death! :worship:

So proud of you Bepa! :cheer: Beat Aga now! :hug: (Sorry Aga. :lol:)

fouc
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Vera :facepalm: for losing the 2nd set.
Needless to say, Woz was shite :shrug:

Patrick345
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Great result. Looks like it is win or go home for Wozniacki tomorrow.

Zvonareva 2-1 16-11
Radwanska 1-2 13-17
Wozniacki 3-3 28-29

goldenlox
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Vera is smart and knows how to play Caro. You dont have to go for winners. When you get a short ball go wide and come to net behind it.
And go down the line on your backhand to her forehand.
Just like the other time they played this year, Caro looked very uncomfortable in this matchup

Geertvg
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Amazing there, Vera had the guts Wozniacki lacked. She looked like the one playing like the number one, not the other way around. Really happy Vera won this one!!

Jimmie48
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Impressive display by Zvonareva, I can't remember the last time she played this strong.

Frustrating but I have trouble blaming Caro for anything. The first set was horrid but she showed great spirit in the second... Zvonareva had the right amount of luck as well, I stopped counting how often the net worked in her favor..had to be at least 6-7 times.

No shame in losing that one, Zvonareva was just too excellent today.

moodin0931
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:34 PM
The tennis Gods are shining on us! Wozniacki is a complete and utter joke! Glad this clown lost and Vera closed it out, something Aga was afraid to do. So happy! :cheer:

:lol:

Dont get me wrong I like Radwanska too...but then what exactly is she? :spit:

Oh and how come she didnt beat Wozniacki? :shrug::oh:

No1Curr
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Not surprising. Vera only needed to play about 50% or more, considering how much more talented she is than Woz.

iGOAT
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Oh my fucking god Sunshine :help:. She definitely got outplayed (Vera was really good) but besides the end of the second Sunshine basically just watched Vera win :rolleyes:.

PLEASE PLEASE beat KvittyGOAT now :sobbing:.

edificio
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Well, it was painful, but :yippee::woohoo:

Didn't even see the last set due to the streams, but...maybe that's a good thing.

Should have accomplished this in two sets, but all is forgiven with the win.

Some brilliant and bad tennis from Vera. I expect nothing less!

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:34 PM
amazing Bepa and choking Bepa in matter of minutes in 3rd set

Cajka
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:35 PM
49 winners from Vera! :eek: :worship:

marineblue
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:35 PM
Well done Vera.

Good fight from Caroline, but it was obvious she was running on pretty low energy levels after last night's marathon against Agniezska.

Adrian.
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:35 PM
Caro :happy::happy::happy:

13w/18ue

Vera :bowdown::cheer:
49/49 :yeah::cheer:

Carotards :bigwave:

Hurley
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:35 PM
It really is quite stunning that such a BAD tennis player (if you look at quality of game in strictly binary terms, 1 being GOOD and 0 being BAD) can be #1, and that not one of the (admittedly few) GOOD players can build enough of a head of steam from week to week to dislodge her from #1.

But we're getting closer.

#kArLoS#
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:35 PM
KAMAN!!!!

The only complaint I have is that it should´ve been waaaaaaaaaay easier :sobbing:

Radwanska´s match tomorrow gives me scary thoughts,though

bbjpa
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:35 PM
:bounce:

Now it's up to Petra to save WTA

Fantasy Hero
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:35 PM
a really bad match from Caro :shrug: no matter how good Vera was playing...70% of that GOATness came on short slow balls from Caro. I'm pretty fed up at this because she played aggressive 5 games in the whole match and Vera couldn't see the ball, but seemed to much to ask her to take risks...tomorrow it will be even worse I fear

Jane Lane
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:35 PM
The first 2 points of the last game to break were so GOATy I can't. :sobbing:

iGOAT
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:36 PM
Vera was SO lucky with netcords :rolleyes:.

jrm
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:36 PM
how come Zvonareva always looks soo fat on TV :scratch: they way she moves on the court doesn't help the image either :lol: even Davenport looked more graceful when on move :lol:

cherboy
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:36 PM
This match really made me a fan of Vera Zvonareva!!! She did everything right, played a really good match, great points, great point construction... and what a mental toughness after 2nd set.

SwingVolley93
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:36 PM
49 winners for Zvonareva!:eek:
13 for the clown :lol:

timafi
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:37 PM
fantastic match by Vera:hatoff:

go away pusher:wavey::wavey::wavey:

heart
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:37 PM
finally!! :D there shouldn't have been a third set but still vera closed it out! pls beat aga tom and make it a lot quicker!! davai!!!

HuHu
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:37 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/16h25bo.jpg

No1Curr
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:37 PM
49 winners for Zvonareva!:eek:
13 for the clown :lol:

13 more than she usually hits.

Brena
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:37 PM
Vera's tennis in the first set was perfection - volleys, BH DTLs, FH DTLs, overhead smashes, a dropshot or two, defense... you name it, she did it. Then, she had the obligatory prolonged bout of insanity, but all ended well. Come on, Vera, make the SF! :cheer:
Woz's tennis throughout the match was her usual unique combination of tragic and hilarious. Kill 'er, Kvitty. :lick:

T_P
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:38 PM
Bepa :worship: Should have won it in two, but I don't care.
That backhand DTL :hearts:

Martian Jeza
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:38 PM
Passive and I want to stay in my comfort zone Caroline Wozniacki stroke back yet again ! 13 winners in a close 3 set match ? That girl can't stop of going backwards ! A luck Aga "tanked" yesterday otherwise the mighty n°1 in the world would be already packing to go on holidays ! Not ashamed for a bit playing since months bad tennis ! OMG ! You are a ( censored ) joke, Caroline Wozniacki !

Belmont Lad
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:38 PM
Thanks for showing the clown the door Bepa! :lol: :yeah:

Wiggly
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:38 PM
Hopefully Petra will win this ... in straights.

Novichok
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:38 PM
Whatever.:rolleyes:
Beat Petra.:hearts:

Patrick345
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:39 PM
Please tell me the first tiebreaker is H2H sets and games amongst all three (1-2) players, not overall sets including the Kvitova results. Cause Zvonareva is so going to lose to Radwanska tomorrow. It´s inevitable. :lol:

SoBizarre
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:39 PM
All the joy on this forum tonight.:hi5: So cute... ;)

fouc
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:40 PM
13 more than she usually hits.

eeee how about... no?

flareon
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:40 PM
Vera this was very good :) I am happy for you now try and beat radwanska.

marineblue
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:40 PM
Vera's shoulder is probably feeling OK now, no wonder she was playing well. Caro will get her revenge tomorrow on Kvitty "GOAT".

Phil=)
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:40 PM
Best match Vera played this season :hearts:
She could have won it in 2 though :lol:

edificio
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:40 PM
how come Zvonareva always looks soo fat on TV :scratch: they way she moves on the court doesn't help the image either :lol: even Davenport looked more graceful when on move :lol:

That's funny because I think she looks very thin/slender (not skinny) on TV, and as well she looks quite quick and flexible, too. :shrug: If you want to see her youthful shape, look at earlier matches. Compare to now. Fat? I don't think so.

Trih
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:41 PM
Nice Vera, great game :)

edificio
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:41 PM
Vera's shoulder is probably feeling OK now, no wonder she was playing well. Caro will get her revenge tomorrow on Kvitty "GOAT".

Although one could speculate that it affected her serving and aided her in achieving 9 DFs. Hard to say.

Elenarulez
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:42 PM
Petra save the WTA. Please.

Wintermute
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:42 PM
Should have been straights for Vera. Not very good as soon as she got the lead. But at least she got it done. I'm stunned sometimes at how passive Wozniacki seems. You can't just rely on the opponent to choke or for daddy to come on court and tell you when to change your gameplan.

Noctis
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:42 PM
Everyone if you play like these, Wozniacki look like a junior, let alone world number 1

gulzhan
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:42 PM
That was so cool to see Vera getting herself together in the 3d set unlike other Wozniacki's opponents :o

Good luck in the match against Radwanska, Vera! You deserve to be in the semi!

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:44 PM
Please tell me the first tiebreaker is H2H sets and games amongst all three (1-2) players, not overall sets including the Kvitova results. Cause Zvonareva is so going to lose to Radwanska tomorrow. It´s inevitable. :lol:

if all 3 are 1-2 then its 1st scenario.
Bepa really needs to either win or take a set at least.

Can easily see Radwanska in SF depending on previous match, Kvitova vs Wozniacki

Break My Rapture
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:44 PM
Oh so someone finally plays lights out tennis and I miss it. Another reason (among thousands) to hate football/soccer whatever you want to call that repulsion of a sport.

OoohBarracuda
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:46 PM
Hell yeah! :cheer: Great match by Vera, she played really well. Hope she can keep it up.

oomph
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:46 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/16h25bo.jpg

spit: That FS% those DFS and still such a beatdown? :spit:

Patrick345
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:46 PM
Should have been straights for Vera. Not very good as soon as she got the lead. But at least she got it done. I'm stunned sometimes at how passive Wozniacki seems. You can't just rely on the opponent to choke or for daddy to come on court and tell you when to change your gameplan.

He tells her fuck all. She never changes anything, because she doesn´t have the ability to significantly alter her gameplan. The only purpose it serves is to mess with the opponents head.

Vikapower
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:46 PM
Well done Vera.

Good fight from Caroline, but it was obvious she was running on pretty low energy levels after last night's marathon against Agniezska.

That's not an excuse :facepalm: Caroline has been completely outplayed a lot in her recent matches (Pennetta, Kanepi etc...) -- In the past, she somehow seemed to always be in cruise control even in the most deepest difficulties now, she can't even keep the ball in play at crucial moments when the opponent is begging her too...

How many shanks, BH or FH consecutive errors at crucial times ? :facepalm: Caroline is seriously declining and that puts a big blow to the "Wozniacki has mental game" myth... :lol:

Jimmie was saying that Caroline had that sort of invincible aura in the past ? :lol: Where has all this gone ? You fans were seriously fooling yourselves... :lol:

gorre
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:46 PM
POJD PETRA!! Send this talentless mug back to Danmark!!!! :)

poulao
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:47 PM
:bigcry:

misty1
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:47 PM
good win bepa:)

now good luck against radwanska tommorrow

hablo
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:47 PM
Well done, Zvonareva. :bowdown:

Commentators were saying she made Kaaaaamaannn look ordinary in the first set. :spit:

sammy01
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:47 PM
vera played a great 1st set, poor 2nd set especially towards the end of it and a good 3rd set. caro let her, infact caro aided her by saying here vera here is another midpaced short ball do as you like with it.

vera didn't fold mentally in the 3rd set and caro hasn't any other game plan than hoping for that to happen,

i don't like vera, but i am glad she went out and went for her shots, rallying with caro would never have cut it.

oh and vera's coach in the white is fucking hot!

Mixal
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:47 PM
Wozniacki cementing her #1 in style.

Thank you Vera for not letting that vulture get another win, but that choke was pathetic. Should've won more comfortably than in Doha. Please, please play like you did in the 1st set against Radwanska.

Luckily for Woz, she took 1 set, and that's gonna be enough to get through even if she loses to Kvitova.

You didn't disappoint us, girls. The question in the ad for this event should've been what "What is WTA made from?" - bunch of fuckin' chokers :o

Adrian.
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:48 PM
where are the woz fans? :oh:

Stonerpova
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:48 PM
Hell yeah Vera :yeah: :woohoo:

Thank you for salvaging this day for me. Please qualify for the semis

Patrick345
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:48 PM
if all 3 are 1-2 then its 1st scenario.
Bepa really needs to either win or take a set at least.

Can easily see Radwanska in SF depending on previous match, Kvitova vs Wozniacki

Good. If it is tiebreaker between the three players, who are 1-2, the situation is pretty clear. Wozniacki needs to beat Kvitova. If she doesn´t, either Radwanska/Zvonareva will go through.

Djezonfly
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:49 PM
Thank you Vera for brightening up my night :sobbing:

Kitten63
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
Bepa :worship:

Jimmie48
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Jimmie was saying that Caroline had that sort of invincible aura in the past ? :lol: Where has all this gone ? You fans were seriously fooling yourselves... :lol:

By saying "where has this gone?" you acknowledge it was there. So how are we fooling ourselves? You just admitted she had that aura.. way to contradict yourself again.

Mixal
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Good stuff Vera, and I'm not talking about the naked pictures.

:spit:

Shvedbarilescu
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Good. If it is tiebreaker between the three players, who are 1-2, the situation is pretty clear. Wozniacki needs to beat Kvitova. If she doesn´t, either Radwanska/Zvonareva will go through.

Almost correct. However if Aga beats Vera in 3 set then it will come down to games between the three girls I believe.

But yeah, assuming, as I think we can, that Petra beats Caro, then Vera is in if she beats Aga and Aga is in if she beats Vera in 2. If Aga beats Vera in 3 it gets muddy.

lang26
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Great Match From Vera :worship: If she can only Play like this at the GrandSlam she be GS Champ for sure hopefully next year she bring this into 2012 for GrandSlam



Caro :sad: Get it together

Laura_VeeFan
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:55 PM
Wow!! I thought Vera was playigng really bad but from what I saw of the first set she was playing really well :eek:

BepaMaria must be so happy :lol:

TuxedoSlam
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:55 PM
Great tennis from Vera in the first set. Glad she didn't collapse in the third. And yet another lulz performance from la Woz - can't say I'm sad about that :-)

Matt01
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:56 PM
Caro fought well in the 2nd set :yeah:

Vera just too strong this time :sad:


Not surprising. Vera only needed to play about 50% or more, considering how much more talented she is than Woz.


Did you even see the match? :weirdo:

oomph
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:57 PM
Oh so someone finally plays lights out tennis and I miss it. Another reason (among thousands) to hate football/soccer whatever you want to call that repulsion of a sport.

Go fuck yourself. :lol:

Also, Wozniacki lost her "aura" when Goerges took her behind the shed twice. :lol:

Coconut91
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:58 PM
I see Wozniacki was GOAT at the net :lol: Nothing personal against her, but her game is just too passive, dull, wretched and one-dimensional for even a top 10, let alone a #1 :shrug: Next season someone should replace her. It's getting ridiculous and it only makes her look worse everyday.

I'm glad Vera was able to close the match. She really outplayed Wozniacki and absolutely deserved this win. Should be an interesting life or death match tomorrow against Aga. I just hope they both play well.

Patrick345
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:59 PM
Almost correct. However if Aga beats Vera in 3 set then it will come down to games between the three girls I believe.

But yeah, assuming, as I think we can, that Petra beats Caro, then Vera is in if she beats Aga and Aga is in if she beats Vera in 2. If Aga beats Vera in 3 it gets muddy.

Thanks. I think I already got the last scenario figured out. If Kvitova wins, Zvonareva can afford to lose a three setter by four total games.

Zvonareva is currently +5
Radwanska is currently -4
Wozniacki is done at -1

Radwanska has to push her own game differential to plus one, and Vera´s down to zero.

TennisFan66
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:01 PM
Another very entertaining and high quality tennis match. Over all, Vera was the better on the day and deserved the win. Lets see what Caroline can do tomorrow.

Oh and I think the YE#1 spot for the second year running is guaranteed. If so, congrats on that! There'll be another nice bonus checks from her sponsors. Not that the girl isnt earning enough millions already :lol:

Ryan
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:01 PM
Caro played like dirt :shrug:

dadouch
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:04 PM
Superb match from both. Vera hitting winners left and right and yet Caro managed to be competitive. Vera game was spectacular but Caro's game was great too, not so many flashy winners but enourmous resillience and fighting spirit. Both girls played their strenghts superbly. I think Caro's father should stay away from coaching her during matches, whenever he came in it seemed that Caro lost focus and became too passive. I expect that tommorow's match against Petra will be exciting too, I don't think it will be one-sided as some expect.

Jimmie48
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:06 PM
Superb match from both. Vera hitting winners left and right and yet Caro managed to be competitive. Vera game was spectacular but Caro's game was great too, not so many flashy winners but enourmous resillience and fighting spirit. Both girls played their strenghts superbly. I think Caro's father should stay away from coaching her during matches, whenever he came in it seemed that Caro lost focus and became too passive. I expect that tommorow's match against Petra will be exciting too, I don't think it will be one-sided as some expect.

Finally some common sense, thanks.

Vikapower
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:06 PM
By saying "where has this gone?" you acknowledge it was there. So how are we fooling ourselves? You just admitted she had that aura.. way to contradict yourself again.

:lol: I was reasoning out like as if you were right on that aura thing so yes I'm questioning myself...

:shrug: Caroline had much more composure in the past in her game -- her game was very compact despite many of it's flagrant weaknesses and players could very rarely touch her soft spots consistently, now, she's getting shred to pieces and doesn't seem to have any answers as of lately... even in her character, she's showing no signs of revolt whatsoever.

A contrario she even helps the opponent more by committing uncharacteristic UEs at crucial moments (30 all, Break-points, Set-points...) for a defender of such high quality... :facepalm:

I don't care about today's match, it's Zvonareva in the masters (their match up is very special too, one time Caro, 2 times Vera, next Caro etc...) but the matches against Pennetta, against Kaia are really showing some very big signs of decline from the Danish wall...

Adrian.
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:06 PM
Desperate Woz fans bad repping me for asking where they are :happy::oh:

Matt01
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:07 PM
Desperate Woz fans bad repping me for asking where they are :happy::oh:


Are you talking about me? :angel: :oh:

Jimmie48
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:09 PM
I don't care about today's match, it's Zvonareva in the masters but the matches against Pennetta, against Kaia are really showing some very big signs of decline from the Danish wall...

What does that have to do with today's match? Nothing.... Caro had a bunch of embarrassing losses lately but today isn't one of them. Zvonareva played flawless most of the times, had luck on her side... that just wasn't Caro's match to win today.

It's kind of disrespectful to Zvonareva as well to somehow suggest that Caro made it easy for her by being terrible. There were plenty of situations when Caro pushed her and she could have crumbled, but she didn't.

C. W. Fields
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:12 PM
Superb play by Vera in set 1. After that her level dropped a bit and she became kinda 50-50 between good and bad shots. Caro did well to hang in there in set 2. She showed good fighting spirit but her play never really reached a high level.
Caro's real chance in the match was in the beginning of set 3. Vera looked a little shaky at that point and didn't play well. If Caro had just held serve for 1-0 she would have been ahead for the first time and might have gained the upper hand, mentally. Instead she practually handed Vera that game. I especially remember two points in that game where Caro had an open court to hit a FH DTL winner, but aparently she didn't trust herself to make the shot and instead hit CC right to Vera and lost the points. Being broken when your opponent is playing really well is one thing. But practually throwing the game away when your opponent is shaky is like saying "Here's the match, take it!".

Overall Vera deserved the win. She had the guts to really go for her shots and though she missed a fair amount in set 2 and 3 she kept trying and had enough of those superb just-inside-the-lines shots (and netcords) to grab the win.
Caro never really looked in high spiris (she hasn't for a long while) even when things were going her way for a short while. With Maria out Caro will be YE #1 again but the way she's been playing for many weeks she'll likely lose the #1 ranking quickly in 2012, whether to Maria, Petra or Vika. Caro says she'll "try something new" during the winter break. I very much hope so and pray we'll see a new Caro next season because right now her play just isn't good enough.

Moo_21
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:15 PM
Best match of the day by far!

Zvonareva played some great tennis at times, which was such a surprise compared to her woeful performance yesterday. That first set everything she hit was magic!

Wozniacki plugged away so well to actually win that second set but Vera deserved to win the match with her intent to step up the court and hit winners for fun.

Sombrerero loco
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:19 PM
caro :spit: always the same shit against zvonareva...

Vikapower
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:20 PM
What does that have to do with today's match? Nothing.... Caro had a bunch of embarrassing losses lately but today isn't one of them. Zvonareva played flawless most of the times, had luck on her side... that just wasn't Caro's match to win today.

It's kind of disrespectful to Zvonareva as well to somehow suggest that Caro made it easy for her by being terrible. There were plenty of situations when Caro pushed her and she could have crumbled, but she didn't.

That's what I said no, it's Zvonareva in the Masters... and I don't agree, Caroline could have done plenty much things better especially when she was starting to get in Vera's head a bit...

Starting by her emotions, she's cold, very cold and doesn't really seem to want it much like in the past... you can be dominated and revolt or at least try to, when did Caro ever revolt in this match ?

The second set was completely gifted by Zvo and her level dropping, I didn't see that fire Caro that much -- on contrary on the first game of the 3rd. she turned back into her lethargy...

Caroline is fastly declining at only 21 years of age... at least it was good when it lasted. :awww:

Adrian.
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:22 PM
Are you talking about me? :angel: :oh:

yes ;)

Patrick345
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:22 PM
I have to say it is stunning that Zvonareva could produce this kind of tennis. Of course Kvitova plays a totally different game to Wozniacki, but if you think back to 4-4 in the 2nd set yesterday, it was always brutal errors on rally shots that cost Zvonareva the set and match. Today she could hardly miss, especially in the 1st and 3rd set, even if she tried. Crazy.

Something magical must have happened overnight....

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQSA3eLYKxrUnSTdw4OTRBg5LFYcrb5v x-FsJxVEGiVZNaY5PjSRA

:devil:

Blu€
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:23 PM
Caro :facepalm: awful display, how she won that 2nd set I still don't know. Vera played great in the first set though Caro was just standing there doing nothing.
Deserved win for Vera, Caro will have to change her attitude tomorrow if she wants to at least have a chance against Petra.

Jimmie48
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:23 PM
Nothing magical, Caro has just given these girls the sense that she's well beatable, and they´re taking advantage of it.

JN
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:34 PM
Nice job, Vera! :yeah:

Nothing magical, Caro has just given these girls the sense that she's well beatable, and they´re taking advantage of it.

Yeah, it's about time they all realized that fact.

SAISAI-GOAT
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:39 PM
and this is the WTA YE #1 :sobbing:

Matt01
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:40 PM
yes ;)


Stop trolling in Caro's threads and you will only be given good reps from me, I promise ;)

andrewC
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:45 PM
:banana:

lang26
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:46 PM
Desperate Woz fans bad repping me for asking where they are :happy::oh:

No body Bad reppin more like laughin at Ya you so quick to be a hater, you really need to look and see the player U a fan of Domachowska will never reach top 20 nine times outta ten or even win a title her carrer is base on ITF Events :lol: So really nobody got no need to really Bad rep you at all :lol:

Adrian.
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:46 PM
Stop trolling in Caro's threads and you will only be given good reps from me, I promise ;)

Trolling by asking where her fans are? :oh:
Oh boy, you know I can troll muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch more...:angel:

Jimmie48
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:47 PM
Why don't you just get a proper hobby? It's just sad, really.

TuxedoSlam
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:48 PM
I see Wozniacki was GOAT at the net :lol:

Caro's net points won are never above 50%
;)

ce
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:51 PM
:hearts:

gorre
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:51 PM
Superb play by Vera in set 1. After that her level dropped a bit and she became kinda 50-50 between good and bad shots. Caro did well to hang in there in set 2. She showed good fighting spirit but her play never really reached a high level.
Caro's real chance in the match was in the beginning of set 3. Vera looked a little shaky at that point and didn't play well. If Caro had just held serve for 1-0 she would have been ahead for the first time and might have gained the upper hand, mentally. Instead she practually handed Vera that game. I especially remember two points in that game where Caro had an open court to hit a FH DTL winner, but aparently she didn't trust herself to make the shot and instead hit CC right to Vera and lost the points. Being broken when your opponent is playing really well is one thing. But practually throwing the game away when your opponent is shaky is like saying "Here's the match, take it!".

Overall Vera deserved the win. She had the guts to really go for her shots and though she missed a fair amount in set 2 and 3 she kept trying and had enough of those superb just-inside-the-lines shots (and netcords) to grab the win.
Caro never really looked in high spiris (she hasn't for a long while) even when things were going her way for a short while. With Maria out Caro will be YE #1 again but the way she's been playing for many weeks she'll likely lose the #1 ranking quickly in 2012, whether to Maria, Petra or Vika. Caro says she'll "try something new" during the winter break. I very much hope so and pray we'll see a new Caro next season because right now her play just isn't good enough.

too long, no one will read this :lol:

Matt01
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:56 PM
Trolling by asking where her fans are? :oh:



Yeah, in a results thread about Woz losing this is bad manners. Of course, since you have done similar before, I could have reported you but in my neverending niceness and patience I decided just to bad rep you and be done with it.

Mixal
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:57 PM
too long, no one will read this :lol:

I did :wavey:

Matt01
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:57 PM
Caro's net points won are never above 50%
;)


Not true. Look at her stats from yesterday :p

Adrian.
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:10 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1378097_o.gif

:oh: That fits today :oh:

claypova
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:13 PM
Caro lost :hearts:

GO PETRA :rocker2:

Pops Maellard
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:14 PM
Fuck yeah Vera :banana:.

RenaSlam.
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:15 PM
I don't think tennis wins either way.

LightWarrior
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:18 PM
I always find Zvonareva's game boring except when she plays Woz. She just knows how to play and beat Woz. 49 winners is quite something.

Gilas.
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:20 PM
My predictions coming true so far :oh:

laurie
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:20 PM
Vera played absolutely superbly :clap2:

TheHangover
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:21 PM
Best match of the day by far!

Zvonareva played some great tennis at times, which was such a surprise compared to her woeful performance yesterday. That first set everything she hit was magic!

Wozniacki plugged away so well to actually win that second set but Vera deserved to win the match with her intent to step up the court and hit winners for fun.

:spit:

Matt01
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:23 PM
:spit:


Maybe not "by far", but it was almost certainly the best match of the day :shrug:

Setsuna.
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:27 PM
NID. In-form Bepa > Any Woz.

Hurley
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:35 PM
NID. In-form Bepa > Any Woz.

Your math indeed checks out. But how was anyone to know that Bepa was in-form? :eek:

pav
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:42 PM
I don't think tennis wins either way.
Sometimes I wonder if you think at all:)

cowsonice
Oct 26th, 2011, 11:36 PM
VERA!! :cheer: Totally made my day.

Does anybody have the full match on file or a link to it??

Cleffa
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:00 AM
:woohoo:

It would be epic to witness a change in number 1 this year in both the men and the women side. Only the one and only Petra Kvitova can do it after Maria withdrawn. But is it official that Petra still has a chance to get to number 1 or did Vera have to beat Woz in straight sets and climb up to rank 2 in red group? If not then Petra really has to thank Vera for giving her the chance to do so.

Whether this could happen depends on Petra now but as for day 2, Vera saved WTA yet again :bowdown: what a great performance. Could've been a beat down if she won in straight sets.

ivanban
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:05 AM
:woohoo:

It would be epic to witness a change in number 1 this year in both the men and the women side. Only the one and only Petra Kvitova can do it after Maria withdrawn. But is it official that Petra still has a chance to get to number 1 or did Vera have to beat Woz in straight sets and climb up to rank 2 in red group? If not then Petra really has to thank Vera for giving her the chance to do so.

:unsure:

Cleffa
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:09 AM
:unsure:

Wait is it impossible now after Maria withdrawn or does it matter?

ElusiveChanteuse
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:11 AM
Bepa :eek: :cheer:
Caro :shrug:

dsanders06
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:23 AM
Credit to Wozniacki for always fighting to the bitter end, but it really says it all that even a fellow second-tier player's best tennis (as Zvonareva was playing in the first set and the end of the third) can utterly outclass her and leave her with no strategy other than holding on for dear life and hoping her opponent chokes. And now it's seemingly not even working against the biggest headcases on the WTA. She's well and truly been rumbled. Woz was pretty much at her best technically speaking from the second set onwards too, but it still wasn't good enough :shrug:

Matt01
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:43 AM
Credit to Wozniacki for always fighting to the bitter end, but it really says it all that even a fellow second-tier player's best tennis (as Zvonareva was playing in the first set and the end of the third) can utterly outclass her and leave her with no strategy other than holding on for dear life and hoping her opponent chokes. And now it's seemingly not even working against the biggest headcases on the WTA. She's well and truly been rumbled. Woz was pretty much at her best technically speaking from the second set onwards too, but it still wasn't good enough :shrug:


:happy:

You never cease to amuse me, my friend.

hotandspicey
Oct 27th, 2011, 02:10 AM
:woohoo: Thank you Vera!! I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Vera play like this. Just way too good for the pusher. Now kmaannn! Petra, send her home!

Nicolás89
Oct 27th, 2011, 02:12 AM
Credit to Wozniacki for always fighting to the bitter end, but it really says it all that even a fellow second-tier player's best tennis (as Zvonareva was playing in the first set and the end of the third) can utterly outclass her and leave her with no strategy other than holding on for dear life and hoping her opponent chokes. And now it's seemingly not even working against the biggest headcases on the WTA. She's well and truly been rumbled. Woz was pretty much at her best technically speaking from the second set onwards too, but it still wasn't good enough :shrug:

:help: She was playing horribly the whole match. You are delusional if you think this is the best Caroline can bring to the table.

Novichok
Oct 27th, 2011, 02:57 AM
Credit to Wozniacki for always fighting to the bitter end, but it really says it all that even a fellow second-tier player's best tennis (as Zvonareva was playing in the first set and the end of the third) can utterly outclass her and leave her with no strategy other than holding on for dear life and hoping her opponent chokes. And now it's seemingly not even working against the biggest headcases on the WTA. She's well and truly been rumbled. Woz was pretty much at her best technically speaking from the second set onwards too, but it still wasn't good enough :shrug:

:haha::haha::haha:

dsanders06
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:02 AM
She got a really high % of first serves in. She made only 18 unforced errors in more than 2 hours. She was moving well in the second and third sets. That's about as good as it ever gets for Wozniacki :shrug: The only difference is that Zvonareva didn't choke today as she may have done 9/12 months ago.

bandabou
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:17 AM
well played by Vera..was in total control. Should've won in straights..but Caro, kudos for her. She's a solid base form that keeps her in most matches if her opponent isn't able to keep up a good form.

twinbridge
Oct 27th, 2011, 04:45 AM
Wait is it impossible now after Maria withdrawn or does it matter?

Mathematically, Woz is confirmed YEAR-END No 1 (with 7415 minimum), and Kvitova (with 7370 Maximum) has no chance to pass her.

Cleffa
Oct 27th, 2011, 05:01 AM
Mathematically, Woz is confirmed YEAR-END No 1 (with 7415 minimum), and Kvitova (with 7370 Maximum) has no chance to pass her.

Awesome thanks for the precise answer!

QuietPlease
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:03 AM
Great tennis from Vera!
Caro tried to hang in there, but Vera was too good :eek:

burn
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:13 AM
Bepa :bounce:

Pops Maellard
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:52 AM
Caro struggled to beat her bitch Aga and lost to Bepa in 3. Petra giving her a beatdown next will make Caro's YEC come full circle :cheer:.

Johnbert
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:56 AM
caro still can make the semifinal :shrug:

kvitova isn't that consistent and woz lead's 3-1 in h2h. everything is possible in this group, also aga had all her chances for the semi :smoke:

Pops Maellard
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:57 AM
caro still can make the semifinal :shrug:

kvitova isn't that consistent and woz lead's 3-1 in h2h. everything is possible in this group, also aga had all her chances for the semi :smoke:
OMG Petra's her bitch :eek:.

Johnbert
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:02 AM
OMG Petra's her bitch :eek:.

not my words :shrug:

Apoleb
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:17 AM
I won't say "NID" but saw this coming. This is a terrible surface for Wozniacki. If even Radwanska can manage to boss their rallies, anyone will. Vera had everything to just play her game, and she moved the ball so well. In the second set, Woz tried to moon ball higher and it did throw Zvonareva out.

Mistress of Evil
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:19 AM
LOL :speakles: WTF, that was unexpected :spit: Karolina must have been BAD :tape:

Johnbert
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:26 AM
LOL :speakles: WTF, that was unexpected :spit: Karolina must have been BAD :tape:

caro wasn't THAT bad, but vera was just really good. haven't expected that after she was dominated by petra in the first match :weirdo:

pav
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:45 AM
LOL :speakles: WTF, that was unexpected :spit: Karolina must have been BAD :tape:
A classic! Predict Bepa to receive a good beating, and now when it didn't happen,put it down to Caro playing so bad:lol:

Juju Nostalgique
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:51 AM
For fuck's sake!!! Vera I love YA BABE!!! :woohoo: :bowdown: :woohoo:

:hah: :hah: :hah: ---> Pushniacki :happy: :happy: :happy:

John.
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:51 AM
Vera :yeah: That 1st set was probably the best she's played all year.

pla
Oct 27th, 2011, 08:05 AM
If Caroline plays the same way against Petra, in other words, giving the perfect for her opponent height of ball, I fear there will be a harsh result for her. This is exactly what happened yesterday in the first set and a half (the rest I couldn't watch well because of the cutting streams). So if Petra manages to keep her UEs low, with this bounce of the ball, it can get reaaaaaaaly bad for Wozniacki. The problem is that Caroline is maybe not capable yet to deliver another type of tennis. We will see.

Beat
Oct 27th, 2011, 08:16 AM
you know you're doing something wroong when you make zvonareva look like a proper shotmaker :rolls:

améliemomo
Oct 27th, 2011, 08:43 AM
well done Zvonareva

what a great n°1 and what a great wta tour:o

bandabou
Oct 27th, 2011, 09:02 AM
THAT's the thing with Caro. Vera was made look like she was Petra Kvitova or something. :lol:

Not good! I understand that Caro likes to play it safe, but this is ridiculous. She was doing absolutely NOTHING for most of the match.

ClijstersGOAT
Oct 27th, 2011, 09:02 AM
Thanks. I think I already got the last scenario figured out. If Kvitova wins, Zvonareva can afford to lose a three setter by four total games.

Zvonareva is currently +5
Radwanska is currently -4
Wozniacki is done at -1

Radwanska has to push her own game differential to plus one, and Vera´s down to zero.

I think the results against Kvitova also count (assuming Kvitova goes 3-0), not only the results between the 3 tied players. Besides, it's not +/- in games that counts, it's % of games won.

C. Drone
Oct 27th, 2011, 09:20 AM
couldnt watch it... sound like Vera played her 2nd best match of the year (after Doha final), but of course she will collapse against Radwanska again.
Carolina :facepalm:

Corswandt
Oct 27th, 2011, 10:55 AM
Dazzling tennis by Zvonareva in the first (again showing that Wozniacka is completley helpless against an opponent who is playing well), very patchy from then on (way more wild errors than we usually see from her, DFs, obviously unfocused at times). Shell-shocked ~*Princess Karolina*~ goes into all-out pusher mode in last two sets, manages to bring Zvonareva's level down to her own, and very nearly bullshits her way to yet another ugly win as Zvonareva's usual game plan against Wozniacka (to focus on holding her own serve and not even bothering to contest several of Wozniacka's service games) cost her the second set and then part of the lead she had won in the third. Fortunately for her, Zvonareva managed to hold easily in a couple of crucial games, and her BH DTL was always there to throw Wozniacka off-balance.

A handful of good rallies as both Zvonareva and Wozniacka are very good at hitting the ball accurately even from the most awkward defensive positions (Zvonareva due to her superlative control, Wozniacka due to her speed and athleticism), but overall the last two sets were of rather poor quality.

~*Princess Karolina*~ has had lucky escapes from the group stage of both YECs she played; she'll probably do the same today.

vixter
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:14 PM
She got a really high % of first serves in. She made only 18 unforced errors in more than 2 hours. She was moving well in the second and third sets. That's about as good as it ever gets for Wozniacki :shrug: The only difference is that Zvonareva didn't choke today as she may have done 9/12 months ago.

Statistics doesn't tell all... She was too passive on a few important points, her shots fell too short and she didn't raise her game when needed (beginning of 3rd set).

These things make a bigger difference for Caro than 1st serve %, UE count...

That being said Zvonareva played so well!! this was really her match and would probably won even had caro been better!

BepaMaria
Oct 27th, 2011, 01:19 PM
Not the thrashing I expected, but still, a win is a win. Zvonareva was the one who took charge of the rallies and played like the world #1. She made the Wozzer look like a club player out there, showing that she is better at every aspect of the game.

It's good to see Bepa winning a tight match against the pusher because she always lost these matches in the past. This match is a changing of the guard between the two, with Zvonareva being able to outlast Pushniacki mentally. Most importantly, Vera now leads in their h2h and I believe Wozniacki will never beat Zvonareva again. It's really pathetic to see that this fraud of a #1 can't even beat a 30% Bepa, losing out to her both tennis wise and mentally. Folks, that's how you beat this pusher and cheater. Bow down to Zvonareva the real world #1, haters.

dsanders06
Oct 27th, 2011, 01:58 PM
Statistics doesn't tell all... She was too passive on a few important points, her shots fell too short and she didn't raise her game when needed (beginning of 3rd set).

These things make a bigger difference for Caro than 1st serve %, UE count...

That being said Zvonareva played so well!! this was really her match and would probably won even had caro been better!

But Wozniacki is ALWAYS passive on important points and doesn't raise her game when she needs to :lol: Again, her best level is when she moves well and keeps her unforced errors to a minimum ... which she did in sets two and three. But it wasn't good enough to even beat Zvonareva, which speaks volumes.

Jimmie48
Oct 27th, 2011, 02:00 PM
But Wozniacki is ALWAYS passive on important points and doesn't raise her game when she needs to :lol: Again, her best level is when she moves well and keeps her unforced errors to a minimum ... which she did in sets two and three. But it wasn't good enough to even beat Zvonareva, which speaks volumes.

.. to even beat Zvonareva, that sounds so belittling. The way Zvonareva played yesterday she would have had a good chance beating absolutely everyone. Next thing you´re telling me is that she was playing as well against Kvitova...

vixter
Oct 27th, 2011, 02:11 PM
But Wozniacki is ALWAYS passive on important points and doesn't raise her game when she needs to :lol: Again, her best level is when she moves well and keeps her unforced errors to a minimum ... which she did in sets two and three. But it wasn't good enough to even beat Zvonareva, which speaks volumes.

No, that's not the whole story. I know what you mean, she has a problem in general being agressive on important points.

But I dont like when people act like Wozniacki is just always the same, that she doesn't have a 'peak' or a 'low' level and it all depends on the opponent. Just like everyone else, Wozniacki can also play very bad or very good. And right now she's playing far from her best, despite moving well and keeping unforced down... If you are saying she played her best tennis in set 2 and 3 you are not seeing the nuances in her game at all.

rucolo
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:31 PM
Very strong performance, Vera! :D:yeah:

She was so aggressive! :eek: 18 winners in first set, Caroline hit 3. Vera seemed really motivated and focused, got nervous at end of 2nd set. Some amazing points in this match. Nice to see Vera play offensive and attack the net often. Have to say Vera was really lucky with netcords in this match. She hit some stunning backhand longline winners! :drool:

The good thing for Vera was she had nothing to lose against the world #1, no pressure on her. Poor Caroline, all players are extra-motivated and play extra-strong against her. The same applies for Sharapova and Serena, everybody wants to beat them, suddenly their opponents play their best tennis.

Caroline has never been the same since winning Brussels this year :help:

pav
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:39 PM
But Wozniacki is ALWAYS passive on important points and doesn't raise her game when she needs to :lol: Again, her best level is when she moves well and keeps her unforced errors to a minimum ... which she did in sets two and three. But it wasn't good enough to even beat Zvonareva, which speaks volumes.
You just can't help yourself can you:confused:but that last sentence only belittles you really,all a bit sad, or funny,I should ignore it I suppose,instead of rising to the bait.

dsanders06
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:55 PM
.. to even beat Zvonareva, that sounds so belittling. The way Zvonareva played yesterday she would have had a good chance beating absolutely everyone. Next thing you´re telling me is that she was playing as well against Kvitova...

You're so deluded :lol: There's a reason Zvonareva has a negative head-to-head against virtually everyone in the top 10 - because most of the elite are able to beat "peak Zvonareva".

JN
Oct 27th, 2011, 04:59 PM
Stop trolling in Caro's threads and you will only be given good reps from me, I promise ;)

Like anyone gives a damn about your OCPD bad repping. :lol:

JN
Oct 27th, 2011, 05:01 PM
I did :wavey:

Me too! :)

Fuzzylogic
Oct 27th, 2011, 05:48 PM
Superb match from both. Vera hitting winners left and right and yet Caro managed to be competitive. Vera game was spectacular but Caro's game was great too, not so many flashy winners but enourmous resillience and fighting spirit. Both girls played their strenghts superbly. I think Caro's father should stay away from coaching her during matches, whenever he came in it seemed that Caro lost focus and became too passive. I expect that tommorow's match against Petra will be exciting too, I don't think it will be one-sided as some expect.

:wavey:

freeandlonely
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:04 PM
so vz knows how to beat woz

Corswandt
Oct 28th, 2011, 09:36 AM
But I dont like when people act like Wozniacki is just always the same, that she doesn't have a 'peak' or a 'low' level and it all depends on the opponent. Just like everyone else, Wozniacki can also play very bad or very good. And right now she's playing far from her best, despite moving well and keeping unforced down... If you are saying she played her best tennis in set 2 and 3 you are not seeing the nuances in her game at all.

Nuances in Wozniacka's game? Only on TF.

bandabou
Oct 28th, 2011, 10:27 AM
.. to even beat Zvonareva, that sounds so belittling. The way Zvonareva played yesterday she would have had a good chance beating absolutely everyone. Next thing you´re telling me is that she was playing as well against Kvitova...

:lol: Thing is: Zvonareva is a tricky opponent, but what other no.1 has ever been dominated by her?! :shrug:

Matt01
Oct 28th, 2011, 03:54 PM
:lol: Thing is: Zvonareva is a tricky opponent, but what other no.1 has ever been dominated by her?! :shrug:


It was a close 3 setter. Caro wasn't "dominated" by Vera :shrug: