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canadia
Oct 26th, 2011, 06:58 PM
via twitter "Maria Sharapova withdraws from the WTA Championships due to left ankle sprain".

Pasta-Na
Oct 26th, 2011, 06:58 PM
:hug:

come back strong in 2012. :rocker2:

Maidenhair
Oct 26th, 2011, 06:59 PM
:eek: Well, there wasn't anything to play for really, so I guess it's okay. :shrug: The excuse is bullshit though. :lol:

CrossCourt~Rally
Oct 26th, 2011, 06:59 PM
Hopefully she'll be 100% fit in time for the AO :hug:

SAISAI-GOAT
Oct 26th, 2011, 06:59 PM
Caro as YE #1 for sure now :dance:

so Vika will play either Marion or Petko on Friday ... she is probably mad :lol:

Noctis
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:00 PM
About time, shouldnt have played, get rest
Andrea or Marion on?

Broseghini
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:00 PM
Marion :D Bartoli have a chance if win :oh: need Li with 3-0 :inlove:

GrafMariaPetraK
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:01 PM
Rest up Maria:hug: get strong and healthy for 2012 if the world is not in chaos by then :eek:

Belmont Lad
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:02 PM
Good call. Her form was painful to watch, let alone the ankle injury :lol: Kudos to her for making the effort here though. :kiss: See you in 2012! :wavey:

atominside
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:02 PM
:tennis:

SAISAI-GOAT
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:03 PM
it will be Marion replacing Maria against Vika on Friday, unless Marion needs to replace someone else on Thursday :tape:

but Maria should have stayed to play the last match ... her boyfriend in Turkey anyway so not like she had anywhere to go :mad:

she just didn't want to go 0-3 like Jankovic or Safina :haha:

Raiden
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:03 PM
If Pova is truly injured then she's been injured from before the YEC began.

IOW Marion/Petko shoulda been in from the start

Sam.
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:05 PM
Bartoli replaces Maria for sure.

flareon
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:05 PM
Well it was NID. Maria get well soon, Bartoli v Azarenka :drool:

Vee Williams
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:06 PM
would she have withdrawn if she were 2-0 up in her group?

this is not good sportsmanship. the ankle has nothing to do with this. if it were bothering her that much, she would not have come to Istanbul.

GoofyDuck
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:06 PM
Hope Marion can play a match then!

dragonflies
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:06 PM
It's nice for the alternates to have a chance to play after sitting around in days. From the way it looked, Maria definitely is able to play her last match though. It's indeed very hard to play when your chance to advance further is slim to none. Good luck next year Maria.

Is Marion around? Didn't see her, but Petko around in the player photo section. I thought she already flew to Bali?

VishaalMaria
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:07 PM
She probably tweaked her ankle in her match against Na Li.

Really, she shouldn't have played. She didn't have adequate matches and it was a bit too soon to be playing on that ankle.

In all honesty, she gave a good account of herself. She still pushed Stosur and Na Li.

Patrick345
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:08 PM
Thatīs poor sportsmanship from Sharapova.

Please tell me Marion canīt advance going 1-0, if Stosur and Azarenka go 1-2.

Vikapower
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:08 PM
Well done Maria, very smart decisioin... just heard on ES... I would die if you went 0-3. :lol:

Bartoli should offer some goods.

effedcamel
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:08 PM
She probably tweaked her ankle in her match against Na Li.

Really, she shouldn't have played. She didn't have adequate matches and it was a bit too soon to be playing on that ankle.

In all honesty, she gave a good account of herself. She still pushed Stosur and Na Li.

This. While I do think this is a bit of a cop out, she very well could've sprained her ankle in one of her matches.

Meelis
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:10 PM
Marion :D Bartoli have a chance if win :oh: need Li with 3-0 :inlove:

She canīt qualify, but she can get 230 points.

Lighter
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:10 PM
Marion is in Istanbul. She was seen with Caroline in "overflame" making up action and was also with Rolex management.

Djezonfly
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:10 PM
What a bitch ! She shouldn't have played in the first place. There's no way Marion would have been humiliated by Stosur and Li like Maria was, so fucking gutted.

Gosh why do the top players have to be so unlikeable these days...

Meelis
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:11 PM
Please tell me Marion canīt advance going 1-0, if Stosur and Azarenka go 1-2.

Number of matches played is the first tie-breaker, so she canīt qualify.

edificio
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:11 PM
At least Marion gets a match out of it. Masha wasn't going to make it through anyway.

twinbridge
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:12 PM
Marion :D Bartoli have a chance if win :oh: need Li with 3-0 :inlove:

According to the tournament rule, 1 win for ALT and playing only one match can't qualify for SF.


i. If three (3) players each have one (1) win, a player having
played less than all three (3) matches is automatically eliminated
and the player advancing to the single elimination competition
is the winner of the match-up of the two (2) players tied
with 1-2 records; or
ii. Highest percentage of sets won; or
iii. Highest percentage of games won.


If the above tie-breaking methods produce one (1) superior player (1st
place) or one (1) inferior player (3rd place), and the two (2) remaining
players are tied, the tie between those two (2) players shall be broken
by head-to-head record.

Break My Rapture
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:14 PM
What a bitch ! She shouldn't have played in the first place. There's no way Marion would have been humiliated by Stosur and Li like Maria was, so fucking gutted.

Gosh why do the top players have to be so unlikeable these days...
You should be thankful Bartoli would even get a chance to play now. But I guess some people are too obnoxious to realise that.

Rest up that ankle completely this time, Maria.

Raiden
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:15 PM
She probably tweaked her ankle in her match against Na Li. No need to pull stuff up out of yer rear end. The match was broadcast live and there was no tweak or any other accident from start to finish.

All along one person, namely Pova herself, knew that she's injured (if she's really injured) so which means she should not have come to Istanbul and spoil the level of the tournament and should have let Marion or whoever start from the beginning.

Balltossovic
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:18 PM
Number of matches played is the first tie-breaker, so she canīt qualify.
Doesn't she assume Maria's record, though? So, technically, isn't Marion coming in with a 0-2 record?

She assumed Serena's record when she replaced her in 07, didn't she? (I think)

dragonflies
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:19 PM
would she have withdrawn if she were 2-0 up in her group?

this is not good sportsmanship. the ankle has nothing to do with this. if it were bothering her that much, she would not have come to Istanbul.

I dont think her ankle is the reason in this case. She was moving fine although not very fast. But if you put yourself in her shoes, it's very hard to go out there to compete when there is virtualy no hope. The commentators will spreading comments about her past matches worldwide and she wouldn't like that. Years later, when people mention her performance at this tourney, the injury will be remembered more than her actual matches. It happened for high profile players where pride is vital. Serena pulled out of her double when she lost to Davenport in the QF at the USOpen 2000 in similar circumtance too.

Although she will receive more $ and points for playing the last match, but I dont think it's matter to her. At the top, famous players aim for the big ones and not stuffs like small amount of points.

Djezonfly
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:19 PM
You should be thankful Bartoli would even get a chance to play now.

You are right, how generous of Maria to give Marion the opportunity to get slaughtered by Vika.

Soliloque
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:19 PM
Doesn't she assume Maria's record, though? So, technically, isn't Marion coming in with a 0-2 record?

She assumed Serena's record when she replaced her in 07, didn't she? (I think)


Gosh. Even if. Who would want to assume this record ?

Meelis
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:20 PM
According to the tournament rule, 1 win for ALT and playing only one match can't qualify for SF.

It`s theoretically possible, if alt. finishes third in the group and one of the top two is unable to play in semis.

twinbridge
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:20 PM
Doesn't she assume Maria's record, though? So, technically, isn't Marion coming in with a 0-2 record?

She assumed Serena's record when she replaced her in 07, didn't she? (I think)

SHE COMES IN with 0-0 0 match played.

Miracle Worker
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:20 PM
I don't believe in ankle :oh:

For me it's obvious, she has brain injury :rolleyes:

timafi
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:21 PM
good on you.Sam please do the same

Lighter
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:21 PM
Marion's dad who's doctor said Maria could not be ready to be competitive enough. He said that she needed at least 6 weeks in order to be competitive.

Djezonfly
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:21 PM
I don't believe in ankle :oh:

For me it's obvious, she has brain injury :rolleyes:

More like ego injury.

sammy01
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:23 PM
she should lose the 140 points from the YEC and the prizemoney earned. several players have done this over the last few years, 0-2 down cant qualify so pull out with some bullshit injury. it just looks so bad to fans watching and general people taking an intrest because it is the YEC.

jasonbloom
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:23 PM
If Marion play in YEC, she cant play in Bali?

Fighterpova
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:25 PM
This is better than getting embarrassed by Vika :awww:
Such a terrible YEC for Masha, but at least she finally played it :D!

Kvitova will end the year as #2 now :sad:

Rest up Masha and cya at Brisbane 2012 :hug:

Vee Williams
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:25 PM
I dont think her ankle is the reason in this case. She was moving fine although not very fast. But if you put yourself in her shoes, it's very hard to go out there to compete when there is virtualy no hope. The commentators will spreading comments about her past matches worldwide and she wouldn't like that. Years later, when people mention her performance at this tourney, the injury will be remembered more than her actual matches.

Hard for her to continue? This is what she is supposed to do and she gets paid for it. There are so many things wrong in this statement and in her withdrawal. I will not continue on this as to not provoke some of her fans.

Meelis
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:25 PM
If Marion play in YEC, she cant play in Bali?

She still can play in Bali.

Stonerpova
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:26 PM
She was moving fine so this is a surprise. At least now we have an excuse for why she played so terribly :lol: Rest up for 2012, Ruthless :hug:

Miracle Worker
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:26 PM
If Marion play in YEC, she cant play in Bali?

Alternates in YEC can play in Bali. Of course if they qualify.

dragonflies
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:27 PM
You are right, how generous of Maria to give Marion the opportunity to get slaughtered by Vika.



Marion will get at least 70 pts even if she lose the match. That equals with 2 rounds win in regular WTA tournies. If she win, she will get 230pts, about the amount of pts for a SF finished, or 3 - 4 matches win in a row. Not to mention the money for playing a match. Those are easy pts to earn.

doujyr
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:27 PM
What a bitch ! She shouldn't have played in the first place.

Gosh why do the top players have to be so unlikeable these days...


none of us know what pressure she may have had to play if at all possible. she is, after all, world no2, and the most well-known woman tennis player on the planet.

hablo
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:27 PM
Seems Sharpie didn't want to exit the tournie 0-3. :o:rolleyes::haha:

Trih
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:28 PM
You should be thankful Bartoli would even get a chance to play now. But I guess some people are too obnoxious to realise that.

Rest up that ankle completely this time, Maria.

Agree.
Anyway saying "the ankle excuse is bullshit" IS bullshit. I didn't know how the ankle was untill i saw her playing, yeah she played bad without doubts. But the ankle wasn't clearly completely fixed and also one month without matches affected her play.

twinbridge
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:28 PM
It`s theoretically possible, if alt. finishes third in the group and one of the top two is unable to play in semis.

since all other 3 has won at least one match, according to the rule:

1. Final Standings
The final standings of each group shall be determined by the first of the
following methods that apply:
a. Greatest number of wins;
b. Greatest number of matches played; or

For the actual case, The ALT in white group can't be the 3rd though, only the 4th is possible for her.

Djezonfly
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:31 PM
Marion will get at least 70 pts even if she lose the match. That equals with 2 rounds win in regular WTA tournies. If she win, she will get 230pts, about the amount of pts for a SF finished, or 3 - 4 matches win in a row. Not to mention the money for playing a match. Those are easy pts to earn.

:aparty:

Seriously, what's the point of playing a tournament when you know damn well you're already eliminated ? If I was Marion, my ass would already be on a plane to Bali.

miffedmax
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:33 PM
OMG!!!

A tall, blonde gorgeous Russian who used to have adorable bangs and can't serve for shit from my LOB is crapping out at the YEC?This has never happened to me before!!!! I don't know what to do!

Quick! Someone tell me how to handle the pain!

atominside
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:34 PM
Sounds honest:

“The ankle didn’t recover a well as I had hoped after the first round,” Sharapova revealed after her match.”The swelling got a little worse. It just limits my movement a lot and it’s not something I really want to risk, especially at the end of the season knowing that I have some time to recover and let it heal naturally instead of really pushing it and damaging something else. I tried to push it as much as I can, but I think at this point it was just maybe a little too soon.”

“I did everything I could. There’s not one more thing that I could have done. I maybe could have done quicker type of healing things or some type of anti-inflammatory shots, but I’m not really that type of girl. I like to let things heal naturally.”
http://tennis.si.com/2011/10/26/mari...championships/

Raiden
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:34 PM
:aparty:

Seriously, what's the point of playing a tournament when you know damn well you're already eliminated ?

If I was Marion, my ass would already be on a plane to Bali.
Agreed.

Winning Bali props her overall career resume

That's better than getting cheap little handout of 70 points

dragonflies
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:34 PM
Hard for her to continue? This is what she is supposed to do and she gets paid for it. There are so many things wrong in this statement and in her withdrawal. I will not continue on this as to not provoke some of her fans.



It's easy for you to say when you are sitting in front of your computer and not out there playing matches. If you are on the top of the world, you would have a different view. I'm not really a Maria fan, so it's not like I am making excuses for her. It's not hard to understand all the related issues in real life though and I was just pointing that out. Believe in what you want to .

Break My Rapture
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:36 PM
You are right, how generous of Maria to give Marion the opportunity to get slaughtered by Vika.
Why are you acting so stupid? Bartoli got cash for just showing up here, she'll get even more cash for playing a match. And if she wins one, she'll earn a healthy bunch of ranking points.

But yeah she is playing Snickers, sucks for her.

Ferg
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:37 PM
The 70 points wont count towards Marions ranking anyway, but I guess the extra cash is nice anyway I guess. Would prefer her to have been in Bali by Friday though, she'll have to wait now... Not looking forward to the humiliation on Friday though. Hope Maria's ankle is fine.

VishaalMaria
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:38 PM
No need to pull stuff up out of yer rear end. The match was broadcast live and there was no tweak or any other accident from start to finish.

All along one person, namely Pova herself, knew that she's injured (if she's really injured) so which means she should not have come to Istanbul and spoil the level of the tournament and should have let Marion or whoever start from the beginning.

And there's no need to be an obnoxious idiot either! But I guess it comes naturally to some....

I'm really the last person to be pro-Sharapova, but you never know how a tennis player feels or how much they've strained their body after a match. Just because Maria didn't fall over or wasn't making a big deal out of her ankle, doesn't mean she felt 100%.

Miracle Worker
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:39 PM
Not only Maria is injured...

Till the YEC ends, at least one player will withdraw...

Djezonfly
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:42 PM
Why are you acting so stupid? Bartoli got cash for just showing up here, she'll get even more cash for playing a match. And if she wins one, she'll earn a healthy bunch of ranking points.

But yeah she is playing Snickers, sucks for her.

Why are YOU acting so stupid ? Don't you understand why, as a fan of Marion, I am bitter right now ? I couldn't care less about how much money she makes. All I wanted was a chance for her to go as far as possible in this tournament. And when I see that Maria shows up half-injured it drives me crazy because I can't help but thinking that Marion could have done better than her against Sam and Na.

Inger67
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:42 PM
If Pova is truly injured then she's been injured from before the YEC began.

IOW Marion/Petko shoulda been in from the start

I agree, if she won her two previous matches there would be no way she would have withdrawn :rolleyes: Wow.

dragonflies
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:44 PM
:aparty:

Seriously, what's the point of playing a tournament when you know damn well you're already eliminated ? If I was Marion, my ass would already be on a plane to Bali.



1. You are not Marion.

2. Alternates who go there all want to play a match to earn easy $ and points. They all knew well in advance that they would probably just be sitting around and earn no pts and less $, yet they still go there. That means they already made their choices. Petko was sitting around watching Na- Maria match, she knew she has no chance to play, yet she is still there.

Monzanator
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:44 PM
Of course it wasn't because of the ankle. She had no chance of making the semis plus another embarrasement vs Azarenka was on the cards. No wonder she pulled out :shrug:

twinbridge
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:46 PM
The 70 points wont count towards Marions ranking anyway, but I guess the extra cash is nice anyway I guess. Would prefer her to have been in Bali by Friday though, she'll have to wait now... Not looking forward to the humiliation on Friday though. Hope Maria's ankle is fine.

The rank points and Prize money WILL definitely count for Bartoli.

Meelis
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:47 PM
since all other 3 has won at least one match, according to the rule:

1. Final Standings
The final standings of each group shall be determined by the first of the
following methods that apply:
a. Greatest number of wins;
b. Greatest number of matches played; or

For the actual case, The ALT in white group can't be the 3rd though, only the 4th is possible for her.

I was not talking about this particular situation, but in general. And there can be more withdrawals, going very theoretical.

Djezonfly
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:49 PM
1. You are not Marion.

2. Alternates who go there all want to play a match to earn easy $ and points. They all knew well in advance that they would probably just be sitting around and earn no pts and less $, yet they still go there. That means they already made their choices. Petko was sitting around watching Na- Maria match, she knew she has no chance to play, yet she is still there.

Well where do you think they should be ? They're alternates, of course they're gonna be in Istanbul. But I still think the whole alternate thing is stupid unless a player replaces someone who hasn't played any match. And it is very frustrating when it is known that the player who pulls out showed up unhealthy at the tournament.

Miracle Worker
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:52 PM
Even alternate who doesn't play earns money.

I would go to Istanbul, London or Shanghai as alternate only to take extra money for free.

Brena
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:54 PM
Is her last name Jankovic? :oh:

gorre
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:54 PM
I don't believe Pova's sprained ankle is the main reason for her withdrawing. She looked highly motivated in TB. After losing chance to SF, she lost her motivation. That's all. :)

Miracle Worker
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:55 PM
Is her last name Jankovic? :oh:

JJ would play 3rd match for extra money :oh:

dragonflies
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:57 PM
Her 16th result is 130 points.



The 70 pts won't be counted toward to her ranking ( is YEC supposed to be a mandatory? idk), but it would be a good buffer toward hers. If she has some early loses next year, her rank won't drop down as much. Also she will have a chance to earn 230 pts which around a 4th round Slam fisnish in only one match. And the money.

BlueTrees
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:58 PM
Lame excuse to avoid humiliation against Azarenka :yawn:

hurricanejeanne
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:08 PM
Thank god. See you in Australia, Anklepova.

Tennisation
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:09 PM
Awww Maria...stupid sore loser ankle :o

Tatcher
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:10 PM
Of course. She doesn't want to get a bagel from Vika :lol:

Temperenka
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:18 PM
I really hope her ankle is in fact injured. Not because I want her to be injured, but because I absolutely despise when a player with an 0-2 record withdraws. It's really unfair to the fans and the alternates usually can't even qualify anyways.

Vika was 0-2 last year and came out in the third match and played hard against Jelena. I was so happy because it showed she actually cares about playing tennis and her fans.

If Maria loved the sport enough, she would play her third match. Her injury didn't seem bad at all.

I feel so robbed of the match I was most excited for. :(

Anyways, come back stronger next year.

Break My Rapture
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:25 PM
Why are YOU acting so stupid ? Don't you understand why, as a fan of Marion, I am bitter right now ? I couldn't care less about how much money she makes. All I wanted was a chance for her to go as far as possible in this tournament. And when I see that Maria shows up half-injured it drives me crazy because I can't help but thinking that Marion could have done better than her against Sam and Na.
She should've qualified on her own then. You should be happy you'll get to see her play here.

Trih
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:30 PM
I really hope her ankle is in fact injured. Not because I want her to be injured, but because I absolutely despise when a player with an 0-2 record withdraws. It's really unfair to the fans and the alternates usually can't even qualify anyways.

Vika was 0-2 last year and came out in the third match and played hard against Jelena. I was so happy because it showed she actually cares about playing tennis and her fans.

If Maria loved the sport enough, she would play her third match. Her injury didn't seem bad at all.

I feel so robbed of the match I was most excited for. :(

Anyways, come back stronger next year.

I see your point, but I think she already made a sacrifice to play 1 or 2 matches here. How can we know if the injury was bad or not? She said she didn't want to risk to ruin her ankle more, it was already nice to see her try and play after just a month from the injury. :[

Dexter
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:30 PM
Coward.

killerqueen
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:33 PM
Good. Vika would have made her even more of a laughing stock. Glad that Marion gets a game though! :)

Matt01
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:38 PM
I dont think her ankle is the reason in this case. She was moving fine although not very fast. But if you put yourself in her shoes, it's very hard to go out there to compete when there is virtualy no hope.


If this is true (which I'm not sure of) then this is so classless. :rolleyes:

Djezonfly
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:45 PM
She should've qualified on her own then.

No shit.

You should be happy you'll get to see her play here.

For the 9999th time, I am NOT happy about this and will remain forever pissed. I've seen her play dozens of times, it's not like it was her last season. I can live without that kind of meaningless match.

Anyway, I think we just have to agree to disagree here ;)

Just Do It
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:47 PM
WOW Lame !!

earthcrystal
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:47 PM
If Pova is truly injured then she's been injured from before the YEC began.

IOW Marion/Petko shoulda been in from the start

I came here to say the same thing. I think it was a bit unfair of Maria to take a spot when she wasn't in competitive form. Or at the very least, she should have retired after the first match, before she put an Alternate in a 0-2 hole and then bailed on a a meaningless (to her) match.

heart
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:49 PM
Typical Maria.

edificio
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
I really hope her ankle is in fact injured. Not because I want her to be injured, but because I absolutely despise when a player with an 0-2 record withdraws. It's really unfair to the fans and the alternates usually can't even qualify anyways.

Vika was 0-2 last year and came out in the third match and played hard against Jelena. I was so happy because it showed she actually cares about playing tennis and her fans.

If Maria loved the sport enough, she would play her third match. Her injury didn't seem bad at all.

I feel so robbed of the match I was most excited for. :(

Anyways, come back stronger next year.

Maybe the fans want to see Marion Bartoli play. :shrug: It isn't all about Maria all the time.

Break My Rapture
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:53 PM
No shit.



For the 9999th time, I am NOT happy about this and will remain forever pissed. I've seen her play dozens of times, it's not like it was her last season. I can live without that kind of meaningless match.

Anyway, I think we just have to agree to disagree here ;)
:spit: Suit yourself.

Vikapower
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:54 PM
Why are YOU acting so stupid ? Don't you understand why, as a fan of Marion, I am bitter right now ? I couldn't care less about how much money she makes. All I wanted was a chance for her to go as far as possible in this tournament. And when I see that Maria shows up half-injured it drives me crazy because I can't help but thinking that Marion could have done better than her against Sam and Na.

Maria qualified through her efforts throughout the 52 weeks period - Barto simply had to do the same thing to get her direct entrance at the tournament... that's how it goes at first.

Maria tried, saw she couldn't so preferably leaves the place for another player - Andrea she might not even hit the court boring herself watching at times some very lackluster matches, so esteem yourself happy that Bartoli is going to at least have a shot at something. :lol:

Nicolas
Oct 26th, 2011, 08:57 PM
Pffff, quitter.... :rolleyes:

nelsondan
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:00 PM
I am a huge fan of and admirer of Maria, and have been for several years. I am sure there is a problem with her ankle....if it had been right, perhaps she could have won both these matches easily, because there were many blown opportunities.

But the problem is more than her ankle. When you have a chance to go 4-0 with two more points, and then you find yourself at 3-3--is that the ankle? When you have a four love lead in a tiebreaker and it ends up 4-7, is that the ankle? When you go 1-9 in break point opportunities, is that the ankle? When you are two points away from a miraculous recovery from 2-5 to 5-5, and you blow 3 break points, is that the ankle?

I think if Maria is being dishonest, it is starting with being dishonest with herself. She has some things she needs to come to grips with. I am not sure she has the coach who will be able to help her with that.

effedcamel
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:00 PM
No shit.



For the 9999th time, I am NOT happy about this and will remain forever pissed. I've seen her play dozens of times, it's not like it was her last season. I can live without that kind of meaningless match.

Anyway, I think we just have to agree to disagree here ;)

you should be pissed that she didn't do better in the 5 trillion tournies she played this year to get herself directly entered then. beggars can't be choosers :lol:

Djezonfly
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:02 PM
you should be pissed that she didn't do better in the 5 trillion tournies she played this year to get herself directly entered then. beggars can't be choosers :lol:

Don't worry, I've already been through this, especially after the Moscow debacle.

Richie's
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:03 PM
She still can play in Bali.

Why guys?? I can't understand this... I think the rule about Bali says that a YEC ALT can play Bali only if she don't play a match in YEC.

Where is the rule about YEC Bali?

Monzanator
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:04 PM
This has happened before with several other players and will happen again :shrug: But I understand Bartoli's fans frustration, nothing you can do about that now though :hug:

Adal
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:05 PM
Typical Maria.
LOL @ this comment.
When did Maria ever do that before? She's one of those players who rarely just quits.

Soliloque
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:07 PM
Why guys?? I can't understand this... I think the rule about Bali says that a YEC ALT can play Bali only if she don't play a match in YEC.

Where is the rule about YEC Bali?


"The top six (6) ranked singles players as of the Monday the week prior
to the Tournament, who have won an International Tournament singles
event during the current Tour Year and have not qualified for entry into
the Sony Ericsson Championships singles draw shall qualify for the
International Tournament of Champions. The final two (2) alternates in
the Sony Ericsson Championships (“Singles Alternates”) are eligible to
play the International Tournament of Champions, even if they participate in matches in the Sony Ericsson Championships. In the event any
of the top six (6) ranked players do not compete in the International
Tournament of Champions, the open spot(s) shall be filled by the next
player who would have been accepted in accordance with the above
requirements"

The Dawntreader
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:07 PM
Smart move tbh. From what i saw of Pova, she looked wholly under-prepared physically, and i think it became even more evident as the matches occurred.

No point slogging it out unfit.

itzhak
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:10 PM
I respect Maria and she is true fighter so this is not excsuse for not facing Azarenka.

However, if she would win today or yesterday against Stosur or Li and still have real chance for the semi final spot, do you think she would pulled out? probably not. She withdrew because she had no real chance for qualify, so why to play for "nothing" (225,000 dolar...)?

miffedmax
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:18 PM
OMG. Because a player has NEVER, EVER pulled out of the YEC after dropping a couple of matches.

Everybody is dinged up this time of year, and anybody who's every played a sport semi-seriously knows injuries are harder to deal with psychologically when you're losing than when you're winning. Of course Masha would play if she was 2-0, or even 1-1.

But at 0-2, she's pulls out. This hardly makes her the bitch from hell, it makes her a normal person, even by the somewhat superhuman standards of being a pro athlete.

Marion gets some points, some cash and a good tune-up match before she goes to Bali. It's not like someone pissed in her cornflakes and violated her dog while she wasn't looking.

Geez what a tempest in a teapot. Focus on something important. Like Lena's bangs.

Stonerpova
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:21 PM
OMG. Because a player has NEVER, EVER pulled out of the YEC after dropping a couple of matches.

Everybody is dinged up this time of year, and anybody who's every played a sport semi-seriously knows injuries are harder to deal with psychologically when you're losing than when you're winning. Of course Masha would play if she was 2-0, or even 1-1.

But at 0-2, she's pulls out. This hardly makes her the bitch from hell, it makes her a normal person, even by the somewhat superhuman standards of being a pro athlete.

Marion gets some points, some cash and a good tune-up match before she goes to Bali. It's not like someone pissed in her cornflakes and violated her dog while she wasn't looking.

Geez what a tempest in a teapot. Focus on something important. Like Lena's bangs.

I think I'm in love with you

Vincey!
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:23 PM
I'm not surprised...her movements were even worse this week...I hope she's going to get a great off season and come back strong next year!

Melly Flew Us
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:27 PM
Of course it wasn't because of the ankle. She had no chance of making the semis plus another embarrasement vs Azarenka was on the cards. No wonder she pulled out :shrug:
i haven't been on here lately so i have to ask if this is sarcasm?



what the hell has been going on that shazza would play with a busted ankle anyway?

Miss Atomic Bomb
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:29 PM
I was rooting for you! We were all rooting for you!

doujyr
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:30 PM
OMG. Because a player has NEVER, EVER pulled out of the YEC after dropping a couple of matches.

Everybody is dinged up this time of year, and anybody who's every played a sport semi-seriously knows injuries are harder to deal with psychologically when you're losing than when you're winning. Of course Masha would play if she was 2-0, or even 1-1.

But at 0-2, she's pulls out. This hardly makes her the bitch from hell, it makes her a normal person, even by the somewhat superhuman standards of being a pro athlete.

Marion gets some points, some cash and a good tune-up match before she goes to Bali. It's not like someone pissed in her cornflakes and violated her dog while she wasn't looking.

Geez what a tempest in a teapot. Focus on something important. Like Lena's bangs.


well exactly. the storm of criticism is actually a veiled compliment, as it indicates the sort of standard she is being held to, as opposed to some other also rans who failed to qualify.

No1Curr
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:33 PM
Cowardly. Should have withdraw after Stosur match.

StephenUK
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:35 PM
Smart move tbh. From what i saw of Pova, she looked wholly under-prepared physically, and i think it became even more evident as the matches occurred.

No point slogging it out unfit.

Totally agree with this. It was pointless Maria continuing to play and maybe aggravating an injury that could cost her dear into 2012 and wreck her Australian Open. She did the right thing. She was not ready to play this event, she just gave it a go because it was the YEC, hoping that she could somehow get through the group stage with zero preparation, but she wouldn't have played if it hadn't been YEC or a slam.

Madoka
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:36 PM
via twitter "Maria Sharapova withdraws from the WTA Championships due to left ankle sprain".

expected.

she looked in big paind during the 2nd set.

it is not worth to risk with her qualification compromised...

dragonflies
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:38 PM
I think I'm in love with you

1. Get a room, please.

2. You'd better be a blond, at least 5'11 tall, nice toned legs ( no long black hair), a pretentious Russian accent. A bang would be a plus. And you know what you should do if you are a dude.:tape:

claypova
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:00 PM
Maria :hug: come back strong in 2012 :)

Trih
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:11 PM
OMG. Because a player has NEVER, EVER pulled out of the YEC after dropping a couple of matches.

Everybody is dinged up this time of year, and anybody who's every played a sport semi-seriously knows injuries are harder to deal with psychologically when you're losing than when you're winning. Of course Masha would play if she was 2-0, or even 1-1.

But at 0-2, she's pulls out. This hardly makes her the bitch from hell, it makes her a normal person, even by the somewhat superhuman standards of being a pro athlete.

Marion gets some points, some cash and a good tune-up match before she goes to Bali. It's not like someone pissed in her cornflakes and violated her dog while she wasn't looking.

Geez what a tempest in a teapot. Focus on something important. Like Lena's bangs.

thank you :)

RenaSlam.
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:16 PM
Lame.

Pops Maellard
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:37 PM
:sobbing:.

Six Feet Under
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:45 PM
Will both Istanbul and Bali points be considered extra 17th and 18th tournaments which she can keep?

Chunchun
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:59 PM
Sportsmanship! :o

brickhousesupporter
Oct 26th, 2011, 11:13 PM
Oh well, nothing lost really.....

Vee Williams
Oct 26th, 2011, 11:22 PM
well exactly. the storm of criticism is actually a veiled compliment, as it indicates the sort of standard she is being held to, as opposed to some other also rans who failed to qualify.

she isn't a standard for sportsmanship, that's for sure.

Bashak
Oct 26th, 2011, 11:23 PM
soo disappointing... I should have gone to watch her play in group rounds :( Maybe next year.

brickhousesupporter
Oct 26th, 2011, 11:42 PM
soo disappointing... I should have gone to watch her play in group rounds :( Maybe next year.
She may not make it next year.......How close are you to Bali?

StoneRose
Oct 26th, 2011, 11:44 PM
I can understand that. Pity though, that particular match would have shut Maria fans up for months about the Vika-Maria match up.

Temperenka
Oct 26th, 2011, 11:50 PM
Maybe the fans want to see Marion Bartoli play. :shrug: It isn't all about Maria all the time.

Maria is arguably the biggest tennis star in the world. The fans want to see her play. Period.. end of discussion.

But anyways, again, can't wait to see Maria in January.

hotandspicey
Oct 26th, 2011, 11:54 PM
Maria likes the limelight and spotlight, but alas,she is not shinning here. so what does she do? Pack her bags, click her heels, snatch her man, and say "there's no place like home". She knows Vika would have made mincemeat out of her.:lol:

Siderophyre
Oct 26th, 2011, 11:56 PM
She is totally right to retire. Why should she risk a worse ankle injury for nothing?

dsanders06
Oct 26th, 2011, 11:59 PM
She may not make it next year.......How close are you to Bali?

Keep dreaming :lol:

From her statement, it's obvious the injury isn't TOO serious (as in, she would be physically capable of completing one more match), but if it's sufficiently serious that it's swelling up again then it's understandable she'd feel there's no point in delaying her recovery time and have it eat into her off-season and training for the new season. Probably not the most kosher move in history, but this is a player who NEVER usually gives up.

Rest up Maria, and target atleast the semis in Melbourne :hug:

jrm
Oct 26th, 2011, 11:59 PM
duuuh, no chance of qualifying

Bashak
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:02 AM
She may not make it next year.......How close are you to Bali?
:lol: not very... She better make it next year or the year after that. I think it's only in Istanbul for 3 years. Or I have to get planning and finally go to RG next summer and watch everybody play! Maybe I'll win the new year's lottery and go to Melbourne! Anyways, on the bright side I like the frenchies, maybe I'll catch Bartoli play.

StoneRose
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:10 AM
From her statement, it's obvious the injury isn't TOO serious (as in, she would be physically capable of completing one more match), but if it's sufficiently serious that it's swelling up again then it's understandable she'd feel there's no point in delaying her recovery time and have it eat into her off-season and training for the new season. Probably not the most kosher move in history, but this is a player who NEVER usually gives up.

Rest up Maria, and target atleast the semis in Melbourne :hug:Agree with this, i'm not totally happy about it (also for reasons i outlined above :lol:) but it is fully understandable. Many examples of players continuing with injuries making things worse. It compromises the tourney to some extent of course but it's hard to argue that Marion is stronger than a not injured Maria. If Vika blows it (she won't) she has done it herself.

twinbridge
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:11 AM
Will both Istanbul and Bali points be considered extra 17th and 18th tournaments which she can keep?

Only 16 best results count for the ranking purpose. For ALT player, even Points from Istanbul might not be mandatory and be considered as one of his 16th results in ranking points, while the points from Bali is definitely optional.

ElusiveChanteuse
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:12 AM
Lame but oh well, see you next year.:wavey:

pov
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:48 AM
Amusing to see so many posters claiming that Sharapova didn't want to play Azarenka. Unless Sharapova's tennis personality has changed she isn't one to shy away from any match. Not to mention that they're 1-1 this year.

StoneRose
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:49 AM
^And unfortunately it stays that way now :).

Lachy
Oct 27th, 2011, 01:11 AM
There are some real experts here that seemingly know exactly what Maria is feeling in regards to her ankle. Wow. Wish I had that ability. In the meantime I figure it's probably best not to speculate and wish Maria a speedy recovery and an improved 2012.

Tennisation
Oct 27th, 2011, 01:20 AM
Amusing to see so many posters claiming that Sharapova didn't want to play Azarenka. Unless Sharapova's tennis personality has changed she isn't one to shy away from any match. Not to mention that they're 1-1 this year. You forgot to mention that Sharapova managed to win ZERO sets against Azarenka in their 1-1 head to head this year.

Trih
Oct 27th, 2011, 01:23 AM
You forgot to mention that Sharapova managed to win ZERO sets against Azarenka in their 1-1 head to head this year.

Her record against Vika was the less important part in his post, tbh.

ico4498
Oct 27th, 2011, 02:49 AM
get 'em next time Maria :hug:

Mashabator
Oct 27th, 2011, 02:52 AM
would she have withdrawn if she were 2-0 up in her group?

this is not good sportsmanship. the ankle has nothing to do with this. if it were bothering her that much, she would not have come to Istanbul.

If if if if, well firstly she wasnt 2-0 so no point in guessing what shed have done.
And maybe it felt fine in training but not in matches?

Renalicious
Oct 27th, 2011, 02:53 AM
Marion :eek: Ajde

Li, win all your matches :sobbing:

Marion, thrash Vika. :hysteric:

Vee Williams
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:00 AM
If if if if, well firstly she wasnt 2-0 so no point in guessing what shed have done.
And maybe it felt fine in training but not in matches?

maybe, maybe, maybe. bottom line: bad sportsmanship. she knew she had no chance to advance to the SF

dsanders06
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:04 AM
maybe, maybe, maybe. bottom line: bad sportsmanship. she knew she had no chance to advance to the SF

So did you say the same thing when Venus withdrew before her second-round US Open match? :confused: Or is it one rule for your favourites and one for everyone else?

Vee Williams
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:09 AM
So did you say the same thing when Venus withdrew before her second-round US Open match? :confused: Or is it one rule for your favourites and one for everyone else?

so you want to compare Venus' syndrome with Sharapova's healed ankle (according to Sharapova, she was healthy/ready to play and most of her fans were raving how she would clean the courts up with her opponents)? Venus withdrew once she felt sick and found out about the syndrome. Sharapova withdrew when she lost two matches in a row and the chance to advance to the SF. You want to compare apples and oranges.

TheDream
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:09 AM
So did you say the same thing when Venus withdrew before her second-round US Open match? :confused: Or is it one rule for your favourites and one for everyone else?

Didn't Venus say she felt fine until just hours before the match? Which, I assume would be true considering she played great and moved like a gazelle in her 1st round match.

TheDream
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:12 AM
so you want to compare Venus' syndrome with Sharapova's healed ankle (according to Sharapova, she was healthy/ready to play and most of her fans were raving how she would clean the courts with her opponents)? Venus withdrew once she found out about the syndrome. Sharapova withdrew when she lost two matches in a row and the chance to advance to the SF. You want to compare apples and oranges.

I think Sharapova withdrew because she had no shot to make the SF and didn't want to aggravate the ankle. She looked fine out there to me, just got beat handily.

Lachy
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:17 AM
so you want to compare Venus' syndrome with Sharapova's healed ankle (according to Sharapova, she was healthy/ready to play and most of her fans were raving how she would clean the courts up with her opponents)? Venus withdrew once she felt sick and found out about the syndrome. Sharapova withdrew when she lost two matches in a row and the chance to advance to the SF. You want to compare apples and oranges.

I just think you should stop commenting on something that you have no idea whatsoever about. Who the heck are you to be in a position to judge if whether or not her ankle caused her troubles in that match or not? How you can even sit there and argue your own speculation is astonishing.

dsanders06
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:20 AM
so you want to compare Venus' syndrome with Sharapova's healed ankle (according to Sharapova, she was healthy/ready to play and most of her fans were raving how she would clean the courts up with her opponents)? Venus withdrew once she felt sick and found out about the syndrome. Sharapova withdrew when she lost two matches in a row and the chance to advance to the SF. You want to compare apples and oranges.

Venus admitted that, even though she was feeling bad, she would've been physically capable of playing the match, but she didn't want to because she knew she had no chance of winning. The exact thing you're accusing Maria of being "unsportsmanlike" for doing.

"… I just felt like, 'Okay, I could walk out on the court. I'm a tough woman, I'm a tough athlete, I've played through a lot of things.' But what kind of match it would be?" she said. "It was a tough decision, but at the same time I've had to come to accept what I'm going through."

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/w_MindBodyNews/venus-williams-sjogrens-syndrome/story?id=14426884

Which is fair enough. Top-flight players don't want to go out and play when they're not capable of performing anywhere near their best. But you can't demand some players have to go out and play as long they're physically capable of it, but give a pass to your favourites. Apply your moral standards equally or don't apply them at all.

Brad[le]y.
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:20 AM
So did you say the same thing when Venus withdrew before her second-round US Open match? :confused: Or is it one rule for your favourites and one for everyone else?

so you're comparing Venus who has Sjogren's syndrome to Sharapova who had an injured ankle that healed? You need :help:

Sp!ffy
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:26 AM
so you're comparing Venus who has Sjogren's syndrome to Sharapova who had an injured ankle that healed? You need :help:

Venus has had Sjogren's for 5 years...

dsanders06
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:27 AM
so you're comparing Venus who has Sjogren's syndrome to Sharapova who had an injured ankle that healed? You need :help:

Wow, as insightful a post as ever from TennisForum's premier wallflower :lol:

TheDream
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:30 AM
Maria withdrew because she knew she had no shot to make the SF. Bottom line. If she won today, she would've continued on.

HRHoliviasmith
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:31 AM
bye, girl! :wavey:

Sp!ffy
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:31 AM
so you want to compare Venus' syndrome with Sharapova's healed ankle (according to Sharapova, she was healthy/ready to play and most of her fans were raving how she would clean the courts up with her opponents)? Venus withdrew once she felt sick and found out about the syndrome. Sharapova withdrew when she lost two matches in a row and the chance to advance to the SF. You want to compare apples and oranges.

According to Sharapova, she said she wouldn't be on the court so soon if it weren't for the YEC so shut your ass up before pretending like you know anything.

Lachy
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:43 AM
Maria withdrew because she knew she had no shot to make the SF. Bottom line. If she won today, she would've continued on.

It's a factor. Here's how I see it: Was her ankle 100% recovered, nope, no doubt it was still providing some discomfort, as evidenced in her movement. Was the determining factor of her withdrawal her two losses - yep I'd agree. There's no point in playing a dead rubber and possibly worsening the injury...it's rule 1 in injury recovery :lol: And some bitter people wonder why she played at all? Well the answer is she worked her ass off all year, being able to play YEC for first time since 2007, of course she was going to get out there on the court and try...who the hell wouldn't?

So she gives Marion a chance to have a run out there and participate as opposed to jeopardizing her entire off-season. Smart I'd say.

AcesHigh
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:57 AM
Bad form from Maria. She should have her ranking points taken away along with her prize money.

M.S.F
Oct 27th, 2011, 04:01 AM
How original from these girls every year! :lol:

Apoleb
Oct 27th, 2011, 05:15 AM
Maria. :help:

She obviously quit to save her ass from further humiliation.

PLP
Oct 27th, 2011, 05:48 AM
it will be Marion replacing Maria against Vika on Friday, unless Marion needs to replace someone else on Thursday :tape:

but Maria should have stayed to play the last match ... her boyfriend in Turkey anyway so not like she had anywhere to go :mad:

she just didn't want to go 0-3 like Jankovic or Safina :haha:

No, I think her ankle is really bothering her. Maria is just not the type to fake an injury plus I think it was obvious that she wasn't even close to fit in her 2 matches.

Good call. Come back strong next season Masha!

BluSthil
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:06 AM
Maria Sharapova has withdrawn from the WTA Championships due to a left ankle sprain, the press in Istanbul reported. The world No. 2 badly sprained her ankle against Petra Kvtiova in the Tokyo quarterfinals and said that she didn't make the decison to contest the Championships until a week ago. The Russian lost her opening match against Samantha Stosur on Tuesday, and on Wednesday fell 7-6, 6-4 to Li Na. "Maybe I could have done quicker type of healing things or anti-inflammatory shots, but I'm not really that type of girl," Sharapova told reporters.

I agree with poster Apoeb. That excuse is bull.... !!! She loses her first match to Stosur, and then when Li Na beats her ass, she withdraws. Oh ya, she says "but I'm not really that type of girl to take anti-inflammatory shots, etc. !!! Your march to the top is over sweetheart ! Go make your living showing your ass'ets...

jacobruiz
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:11 AM
Bad form from Maria. She should have her ranking points taken away along with her prize money.

What the hell for? Because for once she decided enough is enough and better to not aggravate her ankle injury which had not healed as well as she had hoped? Instead of continuing to play on it like she had played countless times with her shoulder injury until it was correctly diagnosed?
A lot of posters here are full of crap.

Bronx19
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:14 AM
Pathetic.

These silly women show up for an easy pay day and piss off. They care nothing of tennis.

Halepsova
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:17 AM
Someone is too embarrassed to keep going. So much for Sharapova is a fighter. :oh:

SoBizarre
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:27 AM
1. Tournament is played on surface which can easily cause a foot injury (because it's rough and there is not even the slightest amount of slide).
2. Sharapova's ankle was twisted a couple of weeks ago and thus susceptible to injuries.
3. Sharapova has no chances to advance into the semifinals.

1+2+3=withdrawal. Simples! :D

She's not going to risk a bad injury for nothing, so she quits and she's not the first one in tennis history to do that. It's perfectly understandable, and there is no need to act like it's a display of some extremely bad sportsmanship. On the other hand though, the fanboys' attempts to justify her decision, by saying they actually "saw" her having ankle problem are laughable! :lol: Get a glasses or new TV set... :help:

hERi
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:04 AM
this is the expression of vika when marion was decided to replace maria..:bounce: :wavey:

Londoner
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:59 AM
She tried. Ankle still not right. Best not to aggravate it and rest up for the big 2012 Olympic Year. I don't see the problem. Might have been best if she hadn't gone in the first place but she tried, which a number of players didn't/don't.

Juju Nostalgique
Oct 27th, 2011, 08:03 AM
Marion :lol:

Beat
Oct 27th, 2011, 08:15 AM
:no: it's really hard to give sharapova the benefit of the doubt in this case. it just reeks of quitting.

Apoleb
Oct 27th, 2011, 08:19 AM
Did people see her how desperate she was yesterday? She wanted the win, and if she had won the match no way she would have withdrawn. She just couldn't take the very likely prospect of 0-3. Her ankle is fine. lol @ that bs of her not taking anti-inflammatory drugs because she wants it to heal naturally but still playing on it while inflamed. :weirdo:

C. Drone
Oct 27th, 2011, 10:31 AM
her ego must be hurting more than ankle.
Well, see ya next year.

QuietPlease
Oct 27th, 2011, 11:46 AM
It seemed she moved pretty well on court :shrug:
Anyway I wish she recovers fully in the off season and have a good 2012 season.

John.
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:27 PM
Shame.

I wish her a speedy recovery and good 2012

jacobruiz
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:35 PM
“The swelling got a little worse,” the second-ranked Russian said. “It just limits my movement a lot, and it’s not something I really want to risk, especially at the end of the season, knowing that I have some time to recover and let it heal naturally instead of really pushing it and damaging something else.”

For once she makes the right decision about playing with a not quite healed injury.

watchdogfish
Oct 27th, 2011, 01:30 PM
That's the problem with RR. They should perhaps increase the number of qualifiers to 16 and go back to a knock-out format.

Sharapowerr
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:40 PM
would she have withdrawn if she were 2-0 up in her group?

this is not good sportsmanship. the ankle has nothing to do with this. if it were bothering her that much, she would not have come to Istanbul.

How do you know?

She was a little slower than usual and the also couldn't practise like the other players..
Maria was making UE all over the place.

Marlene
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:21 PM
That's the problem with RR. They should perhaps increase the number of qualifiers to 16 and go back to a knock-out format.

YEC-racers no. 11-16 include Schiavone, Serena Williams, Clijsters, Jankovic, Pavlyuchenkova and Peng - I can't say I feel they belong in the top-of-2011 crowd, at least not all of them? If they want to up the number of players in the YEC, I think they should give direct entry to slam winners plus 8-11 players from the race list to get 12 players in total - then they could have a 16-player cup system with 1st round BYES for the top 4 players (slam winners or not).

JCTennisFan
Oct 27th, 2011, 07:36 PM
way to end the year Sharapova! You could of come in and potentially taken the YE number 1... and you come in looking like a has been. I was hoping that Sharapova would build opon this generally good season... but she sure as heck missed the mark here.

BluSthil
Oct 27th, 2011, 10:44 PM
Apoleb,

Great point !

Jane Lane
Oct 27th, 2011, 10:52 PM
How do you know?

She was a little slower than usual and the also couldn't practise like the other players..
Maria was making UE all over the place.

She always does that. :shrug:

Matt01
Oct 27th, 2011, 11:17 PM
She always does that. :shrug:


:spit:

killerqueen
Oct 27th, 2011, 11:21 PM
YEC-racers no. 11-16 include Schiavone, Serena Williams, Clijsters, Jankovic, Pavlyuchenkova and Peng - I can't say I feel they belong in the top-of-2011 crowd, at least not all of them? If they want to up the number of players in the YEC, I think they should give direct entry to slam winners plus 8-11 players from the race list to get 12 players in total - then they could have a 16-player cup system with 1st round BYES for the top 4 players (slam winners or not).

I agree with this to totally! It just doesn't sit right to me that a player can hypothetically win this tournament after losing two RR matches.