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eck
Oct 16th, 2011, 01:32 PM
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A YouTube video showing a McDonalds cashier beating two female customers with a rod has gone viral and made headlines on Thursday. The McDonald beating incident reportedly took place in Greenwich Village, New York and the ferocious beating was all captured on tape.

The McDonald beating video, which has got more than 551, 0000 hits, shows 2 women entering the store and placing their order prior to brawling with the cashier at the counter. The two female customers subsequently jump over the counter and attack the cashier, smacking him in the face after he questions a $50 note they have given him. The cashier gets infuriated, picks up a metal road and starts beating them mercilessly.

Meanwhile, it has been learned that police has arrested the 31-year-old cashier Rayon McIntosh. He was charged with felony and illegal arms possession.

According to reports, one of the female customers beaten by the cashier is still in hospital. She is said to have fractured skull and broken arm while the other is said to have endured profound cut. Besides, the two women Denise Darbeau, 24, and Rachel Edwards, 24, have been charged with unruly demeanor and trespass.

According to prosecutors, Rayon McIntosh is a proven criminal, and was lately set free after he served a 10 year murder sentence. NBC reported that it tried to contact his lawyer for comment, but he was not available.

Meanwhile Carmen Paulino, the owner of the McDonald where the beating incident took place, has said that she was very disturbed by the incident.

"The actions of this individual are unacceptable and not characteristic of my employees," Paulino told reporters. "This individual no longer works for my organization."

Discussions over the internet center on the question of whether the beating of the female customers by the cashier were acceptable as self defense.

Susan Haines, who works in that area and frequently visit McDonalds, said, “these two women wanted to show they were strong and tough, at times you may come across someone who is stronger and tougher. “

Moreover, the incident once reiterated the fact that social media has the power in shaping and augmenting discussions and movements over issues relating to any sphere of life.

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It's really sickening to see this sort of behavior. :o

delicatecutter
Oct 16th, 2011, 01:54 PM
What a mess. :help:

Kart
Oct 16th, 2011, 02:12 PM
Discussions over the internet center on the question of whether the beating of the female customers by the cashier were acceptable as self defense.

That continued beating is not self defence.

That said, they should all be prosecuted which it looks like they will be.

ElusiveChanteuse
Oct 16th, 2011, 02:26 PM
I'd rather see one of the side get beaten to death.:oh:

Gdsimmons
Oct 16th, 2011, 03:46 PM
IF your dumbass JUMPS the counter ANYWHERE that you dont work then you deserve whats coming to you. Now after he knocked them both down and they were clearly not getting back up then he should have stopped. But the one chick slapped him first. He doesnt know if they have a knife or whatever.

Mistress of Evil
Oct 16th, 2011, 03:47 PM
this is scary to say the least :unsure:

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab210/_svetlio_/GIFS/tumblr_loi4g40M581qgq45ao1_500.gif

ico4498
Oct 16th, 2011, 04:13 PM
treat the people that handle your food courteously ...

delicatecutter
Oct 16th, 2011, 04:16 PM
Intoxicated people don't play around when it comes to their food. :sobbing:

Mynarco
Oct 16th, 2011, 05:40 PM
do we have the original clip??

Bijoux0021
Oct 16th, 2011, 05:50 PM
IF your dumbass JUMPS the counter ANYWHERE that you dont work then you deserve whats coming to you. Now after he knocked them both down and they were clearly not getting back up then he should have stopped. But the one chick slapped him first. He doesnt know if they have a knife or whatever.
This.

Those two women deserved what they got.

treat the people that handle your food courteously ...
And this.

I'm always amazed how some customers are so disrespectful to people who handle their food.

Direwolf
Oct 16th, 2011, 05:56 PM
They just awakened the demon inside him.

He has had troubles in his past. He just got out of jail. Not is his right mindset. Had Serena shoved a ball down that Japanese girl... I wouldnt be surprise if that girl attacks Serena with her Samurai.

He would have been beaten to death by those drunks had he not taken actions.

Why didnt anyone stop him?

Djezonfly
Oct 16th, 2011, 06:29 PM
Reminds me of this :

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Classic :worship:

mykarma
Oct 16th, 2011, 09:47 PM
This.

Those two women deserved what they got.


And this.

I'm always amazed how some customers are so disrespectful to people who handle their food.
No one deserves to be beat that brutally.

Dominic
Oct 16th, 2011, 10:42 PM
Violent ppl piss the hell out of me, and ironically enough, it makes me wanna beat the crap out of them.

tenn_ace
Oct 16th, 2011, 11:13 PM
That continued beating is not self defence.

That said, they should all be prosecuted which it looks like they will be.


it sure is not a self defence, but these yobs have to be put in place once in a while. both bitches will think twice next time before doing it again.

personally, I'd say good for Rayon. Too bad it will cost him another 10 years of his life

rafaelkafka
Oct 16th, 2011, 11:49 PM
They just awakened the demon inside him.

He has had troubles in his past. He just got out of jail. Not is his right mindset. Had Serena shoved a ball down that Japanese girl... I wouldnt be surprise if that girl attacks Serena with her Samurai.

He would have been beaten to death by those drunks had he not taken actions.

Why didnt anyone stop him?

NY people can see a person dying that they do nothing. Decades of left-wing control makes people behave like chickens. In Texas this thug would be legally killed if he did not stop.

*JR*
Oct 17th, 2011, 01:00 AM
"She is poisoning the world with her hamburgers, and we can't even get a lousy beer." - Goose Gossage, after Padres owner Joan Kroc, also in control of McDonalds, banned beer from the Padres clubhouse. :devil:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Goose_Gossage

Keadz
Oct 17th, 2011, 01:03 AM
They deserved it.

Ryan
Oct 17th, 2011, 01:22 AM
Thats awful. Those women were horrible to instigate it, but the beating wasn't necessary. I feel like threatening them with the rod would have been enough to stop them from advancing. Definitely not self-defence, but provocation is probably a legit argument.

Wigglytuff
Oct 17th, 2011, 02:37 AM
IF your dumbass JUMPS the counter ANYWHERE that you dont work then you deserve whats coming to you. Now after he knocked them both down and they were clearly not getting back up then he should have stopped. But the one chick slapped him first. He doesnt know if they have a knife or whatever.

I am always against violence against women. But this was a two on one fight started by too drunk criminals who happen to pee sitting down and I got no pity for them.

That's the thing, people love acting gangsta and hardcore, but the point is there is always someone more gangsta and more hardcore. Those women should have been charged with assault as well because it's clear they slapped him first.

Wigglytuff
Oct 17th, 2011, 02:42 AM
That continued beating is not self defence.

That said, they should all be prosecuted which it looks like they will be.

If I was on the jury I would say it is.:sad:

As an aside 10 years for murder is not enough. If we stop putting non violent criminals in jail than we would more room for mess like those three.

mykarma
Oct 17th, 2011, 03:01 AM
If I was on the jury I would say it is.:sad:

As an aside 10 years for murder is not enough. If we stop putting non violent criminals in jail than we would more room for mess like those three.
Self defense ends once a person is no longer a threat. Neither of these women had a weapon and to continue to beat someone that is defenseless with an iron pipe is no longer self defense. When you continue to beat someone's skull in while they helplessly lie on the floor is a crime. Yeah he's a big man to be admired. :rolleyes:

LeonHart
Oct 17th, 2011, 03:09 AM
They messed with the wrong cashier that's for sure :tape:

hablo
Oct 17th, 2011, 03:16 AM
Why did those ladies attack him? :unsure:

That guy took things too far though... :(

njnetswill
Oct 17th, 2011, 03:25 AM
NY people can see a person dying that they do nothing. Decades of left-wing control makes people behave like chickens. In Texas this thug would be legally killed if he did not stop.

If right-wing people are so proactive about stopping violence maybe they would stop racially-motivated lynchings and gay bashings in this country. Oh wait, never mind! :rolleyes:

CrossCourt~Rally
Oct 17th, 2011, 03:31 AM
Any word on whether the $50 bill was real or fake ? :oh:

Mashabator
Oct 17th, 2011, 04:25 AM
I know what the women did was wrong but the beating with a metal rod was totally unnecessary.

Kairi
Oct 17th, 2011, 04:33 AM
Any word on whether the $50 bill was real or fake ? :oh:

:bigcry: :crying2: :haha:

winone23
Oct 17th, 2011, 05:48 AM
NY people can see a person dying that they do nothing. Decades of left-wing control makes people behave like chickens. In Texas this thug would be legally killed if he did not stop.

What BS! I'm a New Yorker and I hear stories all the time about people running to the aid of strangers who need help. If you look at the vid he did stop so what is your point? There are many New Yorkers who are far braver than you will ever be.

winone23
Oct 17th, 2011, 05:50 AM
The cashier took it too far, but he had a right to defend himself.

Wigglytuff
Oct 17th, 2011, 10:39 AM
Self defense ends once a person is no longer a threat. Neither of these women had a weapon and to continue to beat someone that is defenseless with an iron pipe is no longer self defense. When you continue to beat someone's skull in while they helplessly lie on the floor is a crime. Yeah he's a big man to be admired. :rolleyes:

I didn't say he was to be admired, I said he should still have been in jail in the first place. And don't forget those women attacked him first, and charged him.

Wigglytuff
Oct 17th, 2011, 10:42 AM
Why did those ladies attack him? :unsure:

That guy took things too far though... :(

Why did they attack him twice, because they thought they were big and bad and hardcore. But no matter how big and bad you are there is always someone bigger and badder.

Wigglytuff
Oct 17th, 2011, 10:51 AM
Self defense ends once a person is no longer a threat. Neither of these women had a weapon and to continue to beat someone that is defenseless with an iron pipe is no longer self defense. When you continue to beat someone's skull in while they helplessly lie on the floor is a crime. Yeah he's a big man to be admired. :rolleyes:

As aside, if you are defending yourself, you do have a right to leave the attacking party defenseless.

This is all about branding, seriously. If he had shot each charging woman once with a gun and killed them both, few people would be defending them today. Or if it had been a WOMAN behind the counter who did the exact same thing, people would be singing her praises. So it's a question, does one man have a right to defend himself against 2 attacking females?

Of course.

Does that give him a right to beat them to death or within an inch of their lives? Hell NO!

But that's not what happened, one woman got a cut and the other a broken bone.

I think the real crime is that he was not still in jail. That's the real story here.

Super Dave
Oct 17th, 2011, 01:03 PM
http://www.thetoyzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Mcdonaldsviolence_thumb.jpg

Londoner
Oct 17th, 2011, 02:29 PM
Violent ppl piss the hell out of me, and ironically enough, it makes me wanna beat the crap out of them.

:lol: I know the feeling!

Londoner
Oct 17th, 2011, 02:36 PM
He was already a killer, but only got 10 years for killing a classmate.

What is also sad is that the 2 women behaved the way they did.

All 3 deserve jail.

Stamp Paid
Oct 17th, 2011, 05:41 PM
That wailing white woman :haha:
This is disgusting though. They were advancing on him so he had the right to defend himself, but that was a merciless bludgeoning :unsure: Thats why you dont fuck with New Yorkers, you never know what youre going to get. :unsure:

Bijoux0021
Oct 17th, 2011, 07:22 PM
No one deserves to be beat that brutally.
First, one of the women slapped him. She then jumped over the counter to continue attacking him. The other woman went around the counter to help her friend with the attack on him.

All three are obviously ciminals. But yes, the women did deserve the beating, especially for having the audacity to charge after him behind the counter.

Kart
Oct 17th, 2011, 08:32 PM
If I was on the jury I would say it is.:sad:
Not so sure I agree.

I totally support him laying smackdown on those two crazy ladies but to keep beating them when they're down on the floor and screaming is another thing.

Monica_Rules
Oct 17th, 2011, 08:39 PM
That wasn't nice to watch but they started it so have to deal with the consequences of their actions. He should have stopped when they were down on the floor though.

Pump-it-UP
Oct 17th, 2011, 08:46 PM
That whole scene is too ratchet. Even for me. :o

But having said that, both of them deserved to get their asses beaten.

ico4498
Oct 17th, 2011, 09:20 PM
if i'm on the jury, no way in hell i'd send the employee back to jail.

Bijoux0021
Oct 17th, 2011, 09:36 PM
if i'm on the jury, no way in hell i'd send the employee back to jail.
Same here.

mykarma
Oct 17th, 2011, 09:48 PM
I didn't say he was to be admired, I said he should still have been in jail in the first place. And don't forget those women attacked him first, and charged him.
You said that if you were on the jury you'd vote that it was self-defense. Self-defense ended once he went to the back room to get the rod. At that time it was no longer in danger.

mykarma
Oct 17th, 2011, 09:56 PM
As aside, if you are defending yourself, you do have a right to leave the attacking party defenseless.

This is all about branding, seriously. If he had shot each charging woman once with a gun and killed them both, few people would be defending them today. Or if it had been a WOMAN behind the counter who did the exact same thing, people would be singing her praises. So it's a question, does one man have a right to defend himself against 2 attacking females?

Of course.

Does that give him a right to beat them to death or within an inch of their lives? Hell NO!

But that's not what happened, one woman got a cut and the other a broken bone.

I think the real crime is that he was not still in jail. That's the real story here.
You forgot to add that one of the women has a fractured skull and according to her father part of her skull was smashed in.

Wigglytuff
Oct 17th, 2011, 09:57 PM
Not so sure I agree.

I totally support him laying smackdown on those two crazy ladies but to keep beating them when they're down on the floor and screaming is another thing.

It was my understanding that it was the other employees that are screaming (at least that's what the news reports states).

Wigglytuff
Oct 17th, 2011, 10:00 PM
You forgot to add that one of the women has a fractured skull and according to her father part of her skull was smashed in.

These are things that can happen to you when you attack someone without provocation TWICE. If she had not attacked that man she would not have a fractured skull, if indeed that's the case.

As I said the man should still have been in jail. But she's no victim, unless it's a victim of her own actions and her own stupidity.

Wigglytuff
Oct 17th, 2011, 10:02 PM
You said that if you were on the jury you'd vote that it was self-defense. Self-defense ended once he went to the back room to get the rod. At that time it was no longer in danger.

He reached over about two inches. It wasn't as if he can back and found them the next day. He was still under attack when he struck the first blow.

eck
Oct 18th, 2011, 01:23 AM
And now there's a Facebook page served to fund him:


A McDonald's beating incident has prompted Facebook fans to begin the Rayon McIntosh Defense Fund.

On West Third Street near Sixth Avenue in Manhattan, a McDonald's employee was forced to defend himself. Two women, Denise Darbeau of Queens and Rachel Edwards of Brooklyn (both 24 years old) were offended when the cashier (Rayon McIntosh) questioned the validity of their $50 bill.

The women became volatile, Denise slapped Rayon and proceeded to jump over the counter. Her friend being the trooper jumped into the action. Seconds later, Rayon is seen beating the women with a metal rod.

One patron began yelling, "Stop it! Stop! Stop! Oh, my God! Someone call police!"

The debate has began over who's to blame. Did Rayon have a right to defend himself? Did the women deserve every bit of their beat down? Did Rayon have the right to defend himself but used too much force?

One of the women was left with a fractured skull and broken arm while the other suffered cuts.

Whatever comes from this incident, Rayon who was convicted in 2000 of manslaughter has the support of his father and many people in cyber space. The Rayon McIntosh Defense Fund is one of many pages in support of the cashier.

delicatecutter
Oct 18th, 2011, 02:15 AM
I just wish some of his other co-workers had gotten involved in holding the ladies down after he had defended himself. Although, depending on what they were intoxicated with, it might have been quite the battle. :help:

Moveyourfeet
Oct 18th, 2011, 03:43 AM
This story is a hot mess all around. I'm sorry but nothing those women did warranted a fractured skull. That man was a ticking bomb and he needs to go back to jail for a long time. He is not ready for society.

As for the women, I have no words. Slapping a cashier and then jumping over the counter?? What kind of lunatics are these people? They also need to be in jail for a long time.

Gdsimmons
Oct 18th, 2011, 03:45 AM
The family is complaining about their daughters being in the hospital? If their daughters never SLAPPED the man and then JUMPED the counters like a bunch of animals, they would not be in this situation. They'd be at home going about their normal lives. Im sorry but I cannot muster sympathy for them.

Bijoux0021
Oct 18th, 2011, 05:15 AM
Yeah, the women's parents are shameless. They are acting like their daughters were little angels who didn't do anything wrong. :o

Dominic
Oct 18th, 2011, 05:32 AM
Yes the women are crazy, but that freak should not be out of jail in the first place and is showing why.

ico4498
Oct 18th, 2011, 05:44 AM
Yeah, the women's parents are shameless. They are acting like their daughters were little angels who didn't do anything wrong. :o

they smell Macs $$$ & are probably genuinely concerned for their kids. Surely by now they've heard from every shady ambulance chaser in NY.

Talula
Oct 18th, 2011, 08:53 AM
they smell Macs $$$ & are probably genuinely concerned for their kids. Surely by now they've heard from every shady ambulance chaser in NY.

My thoughts too.

*JR*
Oct 18th, 2011, 11:50 AM
If those girls had done that when Serena was playing a McDonald's cashier in one of her old commercials, she'd have shoved a tennis ball down one of their throats, and then told them that if they passed her in the street they'd better look the other way. :devil:

Super Dave
Oct 18th, 2011, 12:58 PM
Da aftermath.

http://www.profilebrand.com/funny-pictures/category/animated/331_bk-mcdonalds-drive.gif

Dominic
Oct 18th, 2011, 03:19 PM
If those girls had done that when Serena was playing a McDonald's cashier in one of her old commercials, she'd have shoved a tennis ball down one of their throats, and then told them that if they passed her in the street they'd better look the other way. :devil:

:lol:

Infiniti2001
Oct 18th, 2011, 05:33 PM
First, one of the women slapped him. She then jumped over the counter to continue attacking him. The other woman went around the counter to help her friend with the attack on him.

All three are obviously ciminals. But yes, the women did deserve the beating, especially for having the audacity to charge after him behind the counter.

Come on!! He was right to defend himself, but not to this level... He did show who he really is after all :shrug:

hablo
Oct 18th, 2011, 06:19 PM
Come on!! He was right to defend himself, but not to this level... He did show who he really is after all :shrug:

And so did the women... :shrug:

They should never have attacked him and he had a right to defend himself (but up to a certain point: no need to give inflict such injuries upon them...).

Infiniti2001
Oct 18th, 2011, 06:46 PM
And so did the women... :shrug:

They should never have attacked him and he had a right to defend himself (but up to a certain point: no need to give inflict such injuries upon them...).

Isn't 6 the same as ˝ a dozen? :shrug:Not making any excuses for the girls, but they were drunk.. Alcohol make people act the fool..

ico4498
Oct 18th, 2011, 06:49 PM
may we all have the rational composure to logically assess when a violent assault is over, shut down the adrenalin rush, and show compassion for those that threatened our lives.

easy enough to type that ...

Andrew Laeddis
Oct 18th, 2011, 06:49 PM
Obviously he took it too far but I cant muster up much sympathy for the girls. They brought it on themselves. You never know what a persons mental state is or what they are going through. I'm guessing once he was attacked, he saw red and all sense of logic or reasoning went out the window. Maybe he should plea not guilty by means of temporary insanity. Regardless of what happens next I'm sure that's the last counter they'll jump over.

Bijoux0021
Oct 18th, 2011, 10:02 PM
Come on!! He was right to defend himself, but not to this level... He did show who he really is after all :shrug:
Sorry, they brought it on themselves.

Isn't 6 the same as ˝ a dozen? :shrug:Not making any excuses for the girls, but they were drunk.. Alcohol make people act the fool..
I don't have much sympathy for drunk people who turned violent and attacked others. In my place of work, I see those kinds of people all the time. They are usually so out of control that they have to be restrained and tied down. Some already have violent tendencies to begin with, so the alcohol only exacerbate their behaviors.

Infiniti2001
Oct 19th, 2011, 01:13 AM
Sorry, they brought it on themselves.


I don't have much sympathy for drunk people who turned violent and attacked others. In my place of work, I see those kinds of people all the time. They are usually so out of control that they have to be restrained and tied down. Some already have violent tendencies to begin with, so the alcohol only exacerbate their behaviors.

I am not gonna argue with this, however what is the dude's excuse? These girls use their bare hands on him, yet he continued to brutalize them with that metal rod while sober... He acted like a savage and I hope he goes to jail---dude needs some anger management classes if you asked me. I also hope the girls are punished, although I think a fractured skull and broken arm is punishment enough...

Dominic
Oct 19th, 2011, 03:00 AM
I am not gonna argue with this, however what is the dude's excuse? These girls use their bare hands on him, yet he continued to brutalize them with that metal rod while sober... He acted like a savage and I hope he goes to jail---dude needs some anger management classes if you asked me. I also hope the girls are punished, although I think a fractured skull and broken arm is punishment enough...

I agree with you, almost killing someone with a metal rod is not even comparable to pushing or slapping someone. The freak should go back to jail where he belongs.

ampers&
Oct 19th, 2011, 03:16 AM
Both were wrong for their actions, but the employee definitely took it a bit too far. He obviously has some underlying anger issues there need to be address.After all, he is a convicted murderer.

SN: My people...:o. But at least it didn't happen at KFC or Popeyes. :unsure:

ivanban
Oct 19th, 2011, 08:33 AM
I am not gonna argue with this, however what is the dude's excuse? These girls use their bare hands on him, yet he continued to brutalize them with that metal rod while sober... He acted like a savage and I hope he goes to jail---dude needs some anger management classes if you asked me. I also hope the girls are punished, although I think a fractured skull and broken arm is punishment enough...

I agree with you, almost killing someone with a metal rod is not even comparable to pushing or slapping someone. The freak should go back to jail where he belongs.

I'm sure those 2 drunk bints would grab metal rod or whatever, too, if it was around them :rolleyes:

Bijoux0021
Oct 19th, 2011, 10:07 AM
I'm sure those 2 drunk bints would grab metal rod or whatever, too, if it was around them :rolleyes:
Yep.

Otlichno
Oct 19th, 2011, 02:24 PM
Shoulda Woulda Coulda, at the end of the day they weren't the ones attacking with the metal rod he was.

There is a huge difference between slapping someone and getting a metal rod and beating them. Sure, I feel sorry for the man as he was put in a situation like that, but he damn well should have reacted differently. But he never really should've been put in that situation to begin with.

Both are at fault, it isn't as simple as saying, "Oh she started it, I can do whatever the fuck I want".

Infiniti2001
Oct 19th, 2011, 03:29 PM
Shoulda Woulda Coulda, at the end of the day they weren't the ones attacking with the metal rod he was.

There is a huge difference between slapping someone and getting a metal rod and beating them. Sure, I feel sorry for the man as he was put in a situation like that, but he damn well should have reacted differently. But he never really should've been put in that situation to begin with.

Both are at fault, it isn't as simple as saying, "Oh she started it, I can do whatever the fuck I want".

The End!!!

ico4498
Oct 19th, 2011, 04:32 PM
^^nah.
two thugs entered and assaulted an employee, he flees, they pursue & got beat.

don't start fights.

Infiniti2001
Oct 19th, 2011, 04:57 PM
Thank goodness vigilante justice is not tolerated in this society...

Otlichno
Oct 19th, 2011, 05:02 PM
Two thugs entered and slapped an employee and shouted at him.

They jump over counter, employee grabs a metal rod and beats the shit out of them.

ivanban
Oct 19th, 2011, 06:29 PM
Thank goodness vigilante justice is not tolerated in this society...

...but we should be sad that assaulting others while being drunk isn't legal?! :unsure:

ico4498
Oct 19th, 2011, 06:32 PM
^^thugs jumped the counter to deliver an apology to the fleeing employee?

nah, they wanted to continue the assault. two of them, one of him. i don't see the problem with him grabbing something handy to defend himself. the only real issue imo is if he was overzealous in delivering their comeuppance.

Infiniti2001
Oct 19th, 2011, 06:43 PM
...but we should be sad that assaulting others while being drunk isn't legal?! :unsure:

huh? There is no doubt these woman would have paid legally, considering this was a public place... Meanwhile, I find this back and forth fruitless--- I 'll give it a rest now... Peace :wavey:

Otlichno
Oct 19th, 2011, 06:49 PM
Ok, thugs slap and shout at employee.

Thugs jump over counter to continue to their "vicious assault".

Employee decides to run to the kitchen, bring out a metal rod, wait for them to run to the kitchen, and wack them with a metal rod.

They are on the floor, obviously he has successfully "defended" himself, yet he continues on wacking them.

Wigglytuff
Oct 19th, 2011, 06:54 PM
I am not gonna argue with this, however what is the dude's excuse? These girls use their bare hands on him, yet he continued to brutalize them with that metal rod while sober... He acted like a savage and I hope he goes to jail---dude needs some anger management classes if you asked me. I also hope the girls are punished, although I think a fractured skull and broken arm is punishment enough...

I just have this question, would you be attacking him, if he had shot them both once each with a legally license gun and had KILLED them?

I think not. Mostly because, I've never seen you post this kind of outrage when one person defended themselves with a gun from two violent attackers.

ico4498
Oct 19th, 2011, 07:10 PM
Ok, thugs slap and shout at employee.

Thugs jump over counter to continue to their "vicious assault".

Employee decides to run to the kitchen, bring out a metal rod, wait for them to run to the kitchen, and wack them with a metal rod.

They are on the floor, obviously he has successfully "defended" himself, yet he continues on wacking them.

the tape looks damning for sure, but i can't see if they're trying to get up.

Otlichno
Oct 19th, 2011, 07:18 PM
And obviously the fact that they're getting up means that they still want to assault him again so he should just continue, eh? :lol:

ico4498
Oct 19th, 2011, 07:23 PM
And obviously the fact that they're getting up means that they still want to assault him again so he should just continue, eh? :lol:

yup. real world fight, don't give them the chance to continue their thuggery.

Melly Flew Us
Oct 19th, 2011, 08:39 PM
And now there's a Facebook page served to fund him:


A McDonald's beating incident has prompted Facebook fans to begin the Rayon McIntosh Defense Fund.



i don't need to add my two cents here - i need to go and find this facebook page and put my money where my mouth would be if i could be bothered to debate the issue with people who have never had to fight for their lives.

the guy thought that he was being attacked by at least one man - that is why he hit the butch-looking woman the most - and in that position one must remain on the defensive.

Otlichno
Oct 19th, 2011, 09:47 PM
The guy thought he was being attacked by a man? He saw the woman up close and personal when they were arguing at the counter! :lol:

Melly Flew Us
Oct 19th, 2011, 10:22 PM
The guy thought he was being attacked by a man? He saw the woman up close and personal when they were arguing at the counter! :lol:
yes.

in news reports the protagonists were described as a femme and the-opposite-of-femme (the exact word escapes me) couple.

he saw the woman at arm's length - the length of her arm after she slapped him and the length of his arm after he hit her with the rod.

Dominic
Oct 20th, 2011, 02:47 AM
Ok first of all I don't buy for one second that he thought there was a man, it's a really poor quality vid from pretty far away and I can clearly see it's 2 women (and I haven't been speaking to them for minutes). He would have to be blind and deaf to think there could be a man there (and even then I'm not convinced) and second even if it was a man, when someone is on the ground injured and in pain, you don't continue beating on them with a metal rod, unless you're a psycho. And that's what he is. That guy deserved to spend his life in jail after what he did in the past anyway.

Dominic
Oct 20th, 2011, 02:52 AM
I'm sure those 2 drunk bints would grab metal rod or whatever, too, if it was around them :rolleyes:

Thank god that's not how the law works, ppl trying to guess what ppl would have done and giving punishment accordingly, everyone would be in jail. I know I would push or punch someone if I really had to, but I would NEVER beat on someone with a metal rod.

mykarma
Oct 20th, 2011, 12:28 PM
Ok first of all I don't buy for one second that he thought there was a man, it's a really poor quality vid from pretty far away and I can clearly see it's 2 women (and I haven't been speaking to them for minutes). He would have to be blind and deaf to think there could be a man there (and even then I'm not convinced) and second even if it was a man, when someone is on the ground injured and in pain, you don't continue beating on them with a metal rod, unless you're a psycho. And that's what he is. That guy deserved to spend his life in jail after what he did in the past anyway.
Can't believe I'm agreeing with you on anything. :worship:

Dominic
Oct 20th, 2011, 03:12 PM
Can't believe I'm agreeing with you on anything. :worship:

You know there are other topics than Serena in life.

Wigglytuff
Oct 20th, 2011, 04:46 PM
You know there are other topics than Serena in life.

How hot serena is. Yum!

WowWow
Oct 21st, 2011, 12:01 AM
How hot serena is. Yum!

lol:lol:

mykarma
Oct 21st, 2011, 09:48 PM
You know there are other topics than Serena in life.
That's interesting since you post more in Serena threads than I do.

HippityHop
Oct 22nd, 2011, 03:05 PM
I guess that these two women decided that they were going to "keep it real". Sometimes when you try to "keep it real", you run into someone who "keeps it realer" than you. As for the women being drunk, there are a lot of people laid out in cemeteries who were put there by someone who was drunk.

Dominic
Oct 22nd, 2011, 04:00 PM
That's interesting since you post more in Serena threads than I do.

My point was, it's not because I dislike one of your faves that it's sursprising for us to agree on something else. And I haven't posted in a Serena thread in like one month.

ys
Oct 22nd, 2011, 05:57 PM
Pity they didn't kill each other.

Sammo
Oct 22nd, 2011, 09:48 PM
They're all nuts.

Sammo
Oct 22nd, 2011, 09:51 PM
The world's a disaster, a zombie apocalypse wouldn't be that bad...

Melly Flew Us
Oct 23rd, 2011, 12:56 AM
Ok first of all I don't buy for one second that he thought there was a man, it's a really poor quality vid from pretty far away and I can clearly see it's 2 women (and I haven't been speaking to them for minutes). He would have to be blind and deaf to think there could be a man there (and even then I'm not convinced) and second even if it was a man, when someone is on the ground injured and in pain, you don't continue beating on them with a metal rod, unless you're a psycho. And that's what he is. That guy deserved to spend his life in jail after what he did in the past anyway.

i don't know what video you or mykarma were watching but the stud is dressed as a 'g' and acts like a 'g' and got beat as a 'g'.

but if that is what you consider to be average female appearance and demeanour then please tell me the name of your home town so that i know to avoid it.

coz youtube can't show it no more (http://www.dnainfo.com/20111017/greenwich-village-soho/greenwich-village-mcdonalds-touble-hotstop-before-workers-attack)

Dominic
Oct 23rd, 2011, 02:20 AM
i don't know what video you or mykarma were watching but the stud is dressed as a 'g' and acts like a 'g' and got beat as a 'g'.

but if that is what you consider to be average female appearance and demeanour then please tell me the name of your home town so that i know to avoid it.

coz youtube can't show it no more (http://www.dnainfo.com/20111017/greenwich-village-soho/greenwich-village-mcdonalds-touble-hotstop-before-workers-attack)

They're not dressed feminine or acting feminine but they're OBVIOULSY not males, just listen to them speak. And whatever, I said in that post that even if it had been males that beating was way too much, all he got is a slap in the face and he almost killed one of them for god's sake. Would you beat on 2 women (or males, to me that's not important) like that!?? I know I wouldn't. That guy is a psycho and deserves a hell of alot more jail time than he got in the first place. End of story.

HippityHop
Oct 23rd, 2011, 01:19 PM
They're not dressed feminine or acting feminine but they're OBVIOULSY not males, just listen to them speak. And whatever, I said in that post that even if it had been males that beating was way too much, all he got is a slap in the face and he almost killed one of them for god's sake. Would you beat on 2 women (or males, to me that's not important) like that!?? I know I wouldn't. That guy is a psycho and deserves a hell of alot more jail time than he got in the first place. End of story.

The lesson that should but won't be learned from this is to just leave people alone. You never know who you are running up against. You don't know if that person is crazy or scared of you. One thing for sure is that scared people will kill you quick. And when two people, women or men decide to bum rush you, how do you know that they aren't carrying something that can kill you? The actions of those women showed that they were not interested in singing Kum Bah Yah. The only way to make sure that you are safe in this kind of situation is to not let the attackers have a chance to get to a gun if they have one. A hurt person can shoot you too.

I just don't get this feeling sorry for people who want to be gangster and then get the worst of it because their intended victim was more gangster than they were.

ivanban
Oct 23rd, 2011, 01:24 PM
The lesson that should but won't be learned from this is to just leave people alone. You never know who you are running up against. You don't know if that person is crazy or scared of you. One thing for sure is that scared people will kill you quick. And when two people, women or men decide to bum rush you, how do you know that they aren't carrying something that can kill you? The actions of those women showed that they were not interested in singing Kum Bah Yah. The only way to make sure that you are safe in this kind of situation is to not let the attackers have a chance to get to a gun if they have one. A hurt person can shoot you too.

I just don't get this feeling sorry for people who want to be gangster and then get the worst of it because their intended victim was more gangster than they were.

Preach it! :yeah:

Bijoux0021
Oct 23rd, 2011, 02:19 PM
The lesson that should but won't be learned from this is to just leave people alone. You never know who you are running up against. You don't know if that person is crazy or scared of you. One thing for sure is that scared people will kill you quick. And when two people, women or men decide to bum rush you, how do you know that they aren't carrying something that can kill you? The actions of those women showed that they were not interested in singing Kum Bah Yah. The only way to make sure that you are safe in this kind of situation is to not let the attackers have a chance to get to a gun if they have one. A hurt person can shoot you too.

I just don't get this feeling sorry for people who want to be gangster and then get the worst of it because their intended victim was more gangster than they were.
:worship: :worship: :worship:

Well said!

Otlichno
Oct 23rd, 2011, 03:01 PM
The lesson that should but won't be learned from this is to just leave people alone. You never know who you are running up against. You don't know if that person is crazy or scared of you. One thing for sure is that scared people will kill you quick. And when two people, women or men decide to bum rush you, how do you know that they aren't carrying something that can kill you? The actions of those women showed that they were not interested in singing Kum Bah Yah. The only way to make sure that you are safe in this kind of situation is to not let the attackers have a chance to get to a gun if they have one. A hurt person can shoot you too.

I just don't get this feeling sorry for people who want to be gangster and then get the worst of it because their intended victim was more gangster than they were.

True, I guess I was just thinking he over-reacted a bit. I don't feel sorry for the women, but I certainly don't feel sorry for that man for whatever trouble he might get into for doing that.

If I'm drunk and do something stupid, I prefer to know that one less person who will lose his temper and attack me is on the streets, I don't think he deserves to go to jail, but he definitely needs anger management classes.

mykarma
Oct 23rd, 2011, 03:02 PM
My point was, it's not because I dislike one of your faves that it's sursprising for us to agree on something else. And I haven't posted in a Serena thread in like one month.
Don't know why Serena had to come into the conversation in the first place?

mykarma
Oct 23rd, 2011, 03:07 PM
i don't know what video you or mykarma were watching but the stud is dressed as a 'g' and acts like a 'g' and got beat as a 'g'.

but if that is what you consider to be average female appearance and demeanour then please tell me the name of your home town so that i know to avoid it.

coz youtube can't show it no more (http://www.dnainfo.com/20111017/greenwich-village-soho/greenwich-village-mcdonalds-touble-hotstop-before-workers-attack)
I was agreeing on the other part of GoDokic's post not whether the person looked like a girl or a guy. IMO, the gender of the person is irrelevant.

Dominic
Oct 23rd, 2011, 03:10 PM
Don't know why Serena had to come into the conversation in the first place?

Because you don't know me or haven't interracted with me out of a Serena thread, and now you're acting all surprisied that you can agree with me... come on! That's a little close-minded.

Dominic
Oct 23rd, 2011, 03:15 PM
The lesson that should but won't be learned from this is to just leave people alone. You never know who you are running up against. You don't know if that person is crazy or scared of you. One thing for sure is that scared people will kill you quick. And when two people, women or men decide to bum rush you, how do you know that they aren't carrying something that can kill you? The actions of those women showed that they were not interested in singing Kum Bah Yah. The only way to make sure that you are safe in this kind of situation is to not let the attackers have a chance to get to a gun if they have one. A hurt person can shoot you too.

I just don't get this feeling sorry for people who want to be gangster and then get the worst of it because their intended victim was more gangster than they were.

Well ok then, the next time someone pushes me in a club or something, I'll get a knife and stab them repeatedly till they can't move, and then some. You are never too careful.

mykarma
Oct 23rd, 2011, 03:21 PM
Because you don't know me or haven't interracted with me out of a Serena thread, and now you're acting all surprisied that you can agree with me... come on! That's a little close-minded.
:tape: I'll let this one go.

HippityHop
Oct 25th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Well ok then, the next time someone pushes me in a club or something, I'll get a knife and stab them repeatedly till they can't move, and then some. You are never too careful.

You do realize that this is a stupid analogy don't you? :rolleyes: Did the guy who handed out the ass whooping start it, or did these women buck up on him and come across the counter to attack him?

HippityHop
Oct 25th, 2011, 08:38 PM
True, I guess I was just thinking he over-reacted a bit. I don't feel sorry for the women, but I certainly don't feel sorry for that man for whatever trouble he might get into for doing that.

If I'm drunk and do something stupid, I prefer to know that one less person who will lose his temper and attack me is on the streets, I don't think he deserves to go to jail, but he definitely needs anger management classes.

While I agree that he may have over-reacted, the main point is don't attack people. He didn't start the mess, the "gangsta" girls did.

If you are drunk and don't attack someone, I suspect that you won't have anything to worry about.

As the saying goes, "don't start none, won't be none".

Dominic
Oct 26th, 2011, 03:41 AM
You do realize that this is a stupid analogy don't you? :rolleyes: Did the guy who handed out the ass whooping start it, or did these women buck up on him and come across the counter to attack him?

You obviously have trouble reading :help: It's the exact same thing. In my example, the guy pushed me first.

Joe.
Oct 26th, 2011, 09:49 PM
What shocked me the most out of this video is the fact this man MURDERED someone just 11 years ago and he is already out in the community? Fucking disgusting.

Dodoboy.
Oct 26th, 2011, 11:02 PM
I hope he's locked up, and never sees the light of day. He is not fit for society, clearly.

Dominic
Oct 27th, 2011, 01:42 AM
I hope he's locked up, and never sees the light of day. He is not fit for society, clearly.

Well said.

HippityHop
Oct 27th, 2011, 12:53 PM
You obviously have trouble reading :help: It's the exact same thing. In my example, the guy pushed me first.


And you obviously have trouble following the particulars of the McDonald's situation. :rolleyes:

Did the guy in your scenario slap the shit out of you and then continue coming at you as if he was going to give you a complete beat down or possibly kill you? That would be the exact same thing. If he does that and you don't take him out, then hey, you get what you get. Enjoy.

Dominic
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:17 PM
Did the guy in your scenario slap the shit out of you and then continue coming at you as if he was going to give you a complete beat down or possibly kill you? That would be the exact same thing. If he does that and you don't take him out, then hey, you get what you get. Enjoy.

Wow in what world do you live!?? A guy pushing me, is more menacing to me than a woman slapping me. I've been slapped by a woman a few times before and NEVER thought my life was endangered. Granted, this woman probably didn't want to stop there but if you think you need to pound the hell out of a woman (or man for that matter) with a metal rod multiple times to neutralize her, you're a freak and need help seriously. :help:

HippityHop
Oct 27th, 2011, 05:30 PM
Wow in what world do you live!?? A guy pushing me, is more menacing to me than a woman slapping me. I've been slapped by a woman a few times before and NEVER thought my life was endangered. Granted, this woman probably didn't want to stop there but if you think you need to pound the hell out of a woman (or man for that matter) with a metal rod multiple times to neutralize her, you're a freak and need help seriously. :help:

Avoiding the point I see. No matter. Do you.

Bezz
Oct 27th, 2011, 06:45 PM
They messed with the wrong cashier....no sympathy for ppl that lash out first.

Dominic
Oct 28th, 2011, 03:05 AM
Avoiding the point I see. No matter. Do you.

I did not avoid the point, I answered every single part of your post. And you make no sense. Just read it again.

Bijoux0021
Dec 5th, 2011, 01:09 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ex-mcdonald-cook-whacked-women-sue-fast-food-eatery-article-1.986718

Ex-McDonald's cook who whacked two women says he's going to sue fast-food eatery

Says restaurant should have had more security

BY Michael J. Feeney & Bill Hutchinson
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Sunday, December 4 2011, 11:25 PM

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Jeff Bachner for New York Daily News
Cleared McDonald's cook Rayon McIntosh, with his girlfriend Althea Bartley at her Queens apartment, talks with the Daily News about his Oct. 13 confrontation and expresses how thankful he is to be vindicated.

The ex-McDonald's cook cleared after whacking two unruly female customers with a metal pole makes no apologies for the wild confrontation — and plans to sue the fast-food giant.

Rayon McIntosh, 31, who served 11 years in prison for manslaughter, says he feared for his life when the two menacing women lunged over the counter of the West Village eatery on Oct. 13.

“My life was in danger,” McIntosh told the Daily News. “Females do murder men. . . . I displayed a lot of patience. I was in fear for my life.”

Cell phone video of the ugly smackdown at the W. Third St. franchise shows McIntosh striking the women with a 3-foot steel pole, fracturing one woman’s skull.

McIntosh was arrested on felony assault charges and tossed in a Rikers Island jail for seven weeks.

A Manhattan grand jury refused to indict him, forcing prosecutors to drop the charges and release him Friday night.

“I just feel elated. I wasn’t out there looking for trouble,” McIntosh said in the interview at his girlfriend’s Queens apartment.

Trouble came looking for the Jamaican immigrant as he worked on the 9 p.m.-to-7 a.m. shift, at his first job since being paroled from prison in March.

When McIntosh questioned the validity of a $50 bill, the two women turned snarly, he said. They berated him with F-words and the N-word, spit on him and slapped him. He said they even insulted his mother.

“I wasn’t trained to handle that kind of situation,” McIntosh said. “I think I was patient.”

Then the women leaped over the counter.

McIntosh said he grabbed the closest weapon within reach, a steel and aluminum pole used to scrape food from the gutters of the grill.

“I just grabbed that up and I started swinging it,” McIntosh recalled. “I had no other option to defend myself.”

He said he blames McDonald’s for putting him in the perilous position, explaining that staffers had warned the franchise owner of fights, drunken customers and even guns inside the eatery.

In March, a 26-year-old gay man was beaten outside the McDonald’s by two men screaming homophobic slurs.

“I do plan on bringing a civil suit against McDonald’s for putting me in danger,” McIntosh said. “If a security guard would have been there, this wouldn’t have happened.”

The franchise owner, Carmen Paulino, countered that one of her “top priorities” is to maintain a safe establishment.

She said she has long had private security workers on Friday and Saturday nights. She added security personnel on Wednesday and Thursday nights after the Oct. 13 incident.

“First let me say that I, along with my employees, are happy for Rayon and that he was released and cleared of all charges,” Paulino said.

McIntosh said he took the McDonald’s job only to help support his daughter.

There’s one thing he would change from that fateful night.

“I would have never gone to work,” he said.

“I’m not a monster,” he insisted. “I’m a people person.”

As for the two women who provoked the violence, he said he forgives them.

“I hope we do learn something from this,” he said. “You can’t just go around bullying people and then spitting on someone.”

Moveyourfeet
Dec 5th, 2011, 02:13 PM
People are so litigious :rolleyes:

Justin
Dec 8th, 2011, 08:35 PM
So, the two chicks were indicted. The Grand Jury refused to charge the dude. :lol:


http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/152184/manhattan-da--two-indicted-in-fast-food-beat-down


Manhattan DA: Two Indicted In Fast Food Beat Down

Two women who were caught on video jumping over a counter in a Greenwich Village McDonald's and then beaten by a store employee were indicted Thursday on felony charges.
The Manhattan district attorney's office says the exact charges against Rachel Edwards and Denise Darbeau will be disclosed next month.

Amateur video of the October 13 incident shows Rayon McIntosh repeatedly hitting the women, fracturing one of their skulls.

A witness later said the women were upset that a cashier questioned whether the $50 bill they were using was real.

A grand jury declined to indict McIntosh, agreeing with his claim of self defense.

ico4498
Dec 8th, 2011, 08:50 PM
triumph for justice .

Stamp Paid
Dec 9th, 2011, 02:27 AM
He is Jamaican?
Explains it all (the reaction, not the subsequent litigation). :lol::lol:

slamchamp
Dec 9th, 2011, 12:36 PM
at least after a beating like that those women will not be jumping any counters any time soon:lol: