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Steven.
Oct 12th, 2011, 07:41 AM
By: Jak Phillips
Topics: Africa, britain, david cameron, Gay Rights, international aid

The British Prime Minister has vowed to get tough on African countries with poor records on gay rights by slashing millions of pounds from their aid payments.

In a sign that Britain is no longer prepared to turn a blind eye to nations that victimize sections of society, David Cameron will tell African leaders they will receive funding "fines" if persecution of gays continues, the Daily Mail reports.

The UK government has already taken steps against Malawi, cutting aid by $30 million after two homosexuals who held an engagement ceremony were sentenced to 14 months hard labor. And payments could be cut further to the southern African nation, which has received $312 since 2008, if it proceeds with plans to bring in tough anti-lesbian laws.

Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/10/10/tough-love-britain-will-cut-aid-to-anti-gay-nations/#ixzz1aYE9gBqV

I don't know what to think of this. It's good for the gay community but probably less fortunate for those that aren't involved in discrimination. It does say countries with poor record though, but that's kind of ambiguous.

Opinions?

shap_half
Oct 12th, 2011, 08:01 AM
I'm not really sure what good this will do, to be honest. Is this as far as it will go, or will Britain do more to educate Africans on sexual identity tolerance? I'm not convinced this will do anything except cause more problems in Africa. Ignorant, bigoted people might use this against gays.

KournikovaFan91
Oct 12th, 2011, 08:05 AM
I don't live in the UK so I dunno what the political issues are for people living there but I really like David Cameron for a variety of reason. Something I never thought I'd say about a Tory PM. :sobbing:

Philbo
Oct 12th, 2011, 08:50 AM
This is brilliant news really. Some african countries (Malawi, Uganda, Nigeria) are absolutely sickening in their treatment of homosexuals. Uganda was even trying to pass a law making sodomy punishable by the death penalty.. How can the UK conscionably keep giving money to these regimes when the UK is signed up to any number of international agreements to respect homosexuals human rights.

I dont really see it as a win for the gay community as such, its a win for common sense.

These countries can easily keep their aid by merely stopping active persecution of a group of their own citizens who are no threat whatsoever to them. Very simple.

Dani12
Oct 12th, 2011, 10:40 AM
This is brilliant news really. Some african countries (Malawi, Uganda, Nigeria) are absolutely sickening in their treatment of homosexuals. Uganda was even trying to pass a law making sodomy punishable by the death penalty.. How can the UK conscionably keep giving money to these regimes when the UK is signed up to any number of international agreements to respect homosexuals human rights.

I dont really see it as a win for the gay community as such, its a win for common sense.

These countries can easily keep their aid by merely stopping active persecution of a group of their own citizens who are no threat whatsoever to them. Very simple.

This makes sense in theory, and I really wish it was this simple. As the thread poster said though, if the countries don't comply, than there are innocent people being affected.

I like the hard line stance, and I hope this works. Hopefully the said countries do stop poor treatment of homosexuals. I just worry what will happen to the innocent if they don't.

The Witch-king
Oct 12th, 2011, 10:49 AM
Foreign aid is completely misused anyway.

AdeyC
Oct 12th, 2011, 01:22 PM
Ought to cut all foreign aid if I had my own way, enough people of our own in need.

Monica_Rules
Oct 12th, 2011, 03:26 PM
Good news.

I refuse to visit any of these contries until they sort this issue out so good to see my government doing something about it.

antonella
Oct 12th, 2011, 04:28 PM
Interesting that they are focusing on the African countries while giving the Muslim countries a pass. Gotta love neo-colonial petroleum-driven ethics.

shap_half
Oct 12th, 2011, 04:35 PM
Interesting that they are focusing on the African countries while giving the Muslim countries a pass. Gotta love neo-colonial petroleum-driven ethics.

Oh, gosh, I was just going to mention this discrepancy.

But I guess the difference is that Britain isn't actually giving the Muslim country financial aid, but I suppose buying the oil is an indirect financial extension.

Sp!ffy
Oct 12th, 2011, 04:58 PM
Forcing the countries to go pro-gay isn't going to solve any of the internal conflicts or tension. :tape:

égalité
Oct 12th, 2011, 05:15 PM
Interesting that they are focusing on the African countries while giving the Muslim countries a pass. Gotta love neo-colonial petroleum-driven ethics.

Northern Africa is largely Muslim. :weirdo:

shap_half
Oct 12th, 2011, 05:21 PM
Northern Africa is largely Muslim. :weirdo:

Come on now you understand exactly what the poster was saying. And it seems clear from the OP that this particular aid cut would not be targeting the likes of Morroco or Tunisia, but countries like Malawi, where the Muslim population is less than 15%.

pov
Oct 12th, 2011, 06:20 PM
Ridiculous, short-sighted and more than a little neo-colonial. It will make lots of people be even more anti-gay. Not to mention that the concept of ceasing "helping" people based on whether or not they accept your values isn't help, it's manipulation.

Londoner
Oct 12th, 2011, 06:25 PM
In the UK public sector bodies are not allowed to do business with - and their purchasing power is big business - companies who dont have equality policies in place, so this is a welcome extension of that policy. anything that gives out an anti-discriminatory message is welcome.

azdaja
Oct 12th, 2011, 06:27 PM
the war on terror was dumb enough, war on homophobia is the next step.

this is not how you fight discrimination and prejudice. it's useful as a pretext for some dutty bizzness, though. just like the war on terror was.

Londoner
Oct 12th, 2011, 06:29 PM
I don't live in the UK so I dunno what the political issues are for people living there but I really like David Cameron for a variety of reason. Something I never thought I'd say about a Tory PM. :sobbing:

He's no where near as bad as some say and he's inherited the worst economic situation since WW2 - in many ways it's even worse as people have been bought by New Labour to expect more than my parents and Grand Parents ever expected.

Londoner
Oct 12th, 2011, 06:29 PM
the war on terror was dumb enough, war on homophobia is the next step.

this is not how you fight discrimination and prejudice. it's useful as a pretext for some dutty bizzness, though. just like the war on terror was.

So how do you?

AdeyC
Oct 12th, 2011, 06:36 PM
I don't live in the UK so I dunno what the political issues are for people living there but I really like David Cameron for a variety of reason. Something I never thought I'd say about a Tory PM. :sobbing:

Not a patch on Maggie, but not doing too bad a job so far.

azdaja
Oct 12th, 2011, 06:40 PM
So how do you?
ok. and you?

Moveyourfeet
Oct 13th, 2011, 03:37 AM
West Africans are deeply religious, religion having been incorporated into their fetishism during colonial times. They are also deeply homophobic and no amount of aid cutoff is going to change that.

I appreciate the measure though, and applaud it.

Pops Maellard
Oct 13th, 2011, 04:01 AM
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Moveyourfeet
Oct 13th, 2011, 04:24 AM
this is not how you fight discrimination and prejudice.

So how do you?

ok. and you?

:sobbing: