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Pureracket
Sep 28th, 2011, 04:27 PM
http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_32... (http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_32121.shtml)

The CSIC has published the first results of tests of the vaccine on humans
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A Spanish vaccine against the HIV virus is showing 90% success. The CSIC, Superior Centre for Scientific Investigation, has today Wednesday presented the first results of tests on humans and they show promising results against the virus.

The CSIC has developed and patented the vaccine which has managed to trigger an immune response against the virus in 90% of the people who have been given it. The research also shows that the effects remain for at least a year in 85% of cases.

Researcher at the National Biotechnology Centre, Mariano Esteban, who took part in the research at both the Clinic Hospital in Barcelona and the Gregorio Marañón Hospital in Madrid, noted that there were no serious side effects to the vaccine, which goes under the name ‘MVA-B’.

Lennval
Sep 28th, 2011, 05:41 PM
These are very good news

ce
Sep 28th, 2011, 06:18 PM
:eek:

Adrian.
Sep 28th, 2011, 07:36 PM
:yeah: would be too good if they finally would find something really good :awww:

Talula
Sep 28th, 2011, 08:41 PM
:yeah: would be too good if they finally would find something really good :awww:

Finally? There is no such thing with regard to health. We all know what transmits HIV. A vaccine is not the answer, continued education and adherence to safe sex is. If a vaccine becomes available, some other health crisis will too.

Tripp
Sep 28th, 2011, 08:56 PM
I doubt this is something to get excited about. Every now and then we hear great reports about a so-called effective HIV vaccine that ends up being discarted upon further investigation. We're still decades away from an effective HIV cure or vaccine, and that is a fact we're all going to have to get used to it.

And yeah, this may be pesimistic, but as a person who has been living with HIV for over five years I've learned not to get excited over every single guy that claims to have a cure.

Mistress of Evil
Sep 28th, 2011, 09:31 PM
Great news :D

Helen Lawson
Sep 29th, 2011, 12:59 AM
After 70 years of hand-jobs and condoms, I can finally start whoring around?

Pops Maellard
Sep 29th, 2011, 01:34 AM
Interesting. :yeah:

hablo
Sep 29th, 2011, 02:22 AM
Finally? There is no such thing with regard to health. We all know what transmits HIV. A vaccine is not the answer, continued education and adherence to safe sex is. If a vaccine becomes available, some other health crisis will too.

:yeah:

delicatecutter
Sep 29th, 2011, 02:35 AM
Don't let dudes cum in your ass. That's as good as an HIV vaccine.

Zhao
Sep 29th, 2011, 03:08 AM
I doubt this is something to get excited about. Every now and then we hear great reports about a so-called effective HIV vaccine that ends up being discarted upon further investigation. We're still decades away from an effective HIV cure or vaccine, and that is a fact we're all going to have to get used to it.

And yeah, this may be pesimistic, but as a person who has been living with HIV for over five years I've learned not to get excited over every single guy that claims to have a cure.

:hug:

Kairi
Sep 29th, 2011, 03:39 AM
After 70 years of hand-jobs and condoms, I can finally start whoring around?

:hysteric: I KNOW RIGHT? what a relief :lol:

Pump-it-UP
Sep 29th, 2011, 04:20 AM
Don't let dudes cum in your ass. That's as good as an HIV vaccine.

:o

Stamp Paid
Sep 29th, 2011, 05:32 AM
Don't let dudes cum in your ass. That's as good as an HIV vaccine.http://i52.tinypic.com/zu5e6s.gif

Talula
Sep 29th, 2011, 11:37 AM
After 70 years of hand-jobs and condoms, I can finally start whoring around?

Maybe but Gawd knows what else you'll be laid up with - so to speak!

Talula
Sep 29th, 2011, 11:42 AM
I doubt this is something to get excited about. Every now and then we hear great reports about a so-called effective HIV vaccine that ends up being discarted upon further investigation. We're still decades away from an effective HIV cure or vaccine, and that is a fact we're all going to have to get used to it.

And yeah, this may be pesimistic, but as a person who has been living with HIV for over five years I've learned not to get excited over every single guy that claims to have a cure.

A close friend of mine has been living with HIV since 1997. His doctor has said he could outlive us all thanks to the therapies he has. I thank all the scientists and the NHS in the UK and feel for those who did not, or don't, have access to such treatments. Stay optimistic and I hope all goes well for you.

HippityHop
Sep 29th, 2011, 01:15 PM
A close friend of mine has been living with HIV since 1997. His doctor has said he could outlive us all thanks to the therapies he has. I thank all the scientists and the NHS in the UK and feel for those who did not, or don't, have access to such treatments. Stay optimistic and I hope all goes well for you.

A couple of friends of mine are going on thirty years. One since 1981, and one since 1985 at least.

Ciarán
Sep 29th, 2011, 01:53 PM
A close friend of mine has been living with HIV since 1997. His doctor has said he could outlive us all thanks to the therapies he has. I thank all the scientists and the NHS in the UK and feel for those who did not, or don't, have access to such treatments. Stay optimistic and I hope all goes well for you.

A couple of friends of mine are going on thirty years. One since 1981, and one since 1985 at least.

How is their quality of life?

HippityHop
Sep 29th, 2011, 03:30 PM
How is their quality of life?

My friends are doing extremely well. Play tennis, golf, full time college professors, travel etc.

You'd never know that they are HIV positive. Neither has been hospitalized for an AIDS related illness though one guy has had some heart issues which may or may not be related to some of the medications.

It's tricky because some long term use of some of the meds may induce cardiac problems. However, he has had a history of cardiac problems in his family (his father died of a heart attack at age 68 but his father wasn't under a cardiologist's care). But who knows?

Tripp
Sep 29th, 2011, 04:58 PM
Modern treatments have made the disease into a chronic one. If you look at my blood test results, they're the one of a very healtyh normal individual, I run marathons, play tennis, work full time, etc, but that's because I'm on treatment and thankfully I live in a country with a public health system and I have a great private care insurance on the side.

It all comes down (surprise!) to money. Poor people in underdeveloped countries still die of AIDS, and this will unfortunately keep happening until there's an available vaccine.

Philbo
Sep 30th, 2011, 04:08 PM
Finally? There is no such thing with regard to health. We all know what transmits HIV. A vaccine is not the answer, continued education and adherence to safe sex is. If a vaccine becomes available, some other health crisis will too.
I dont think anyone thinks having a HIV vaccine will rule out all health crisis for the rest of time, but its certainly a much needed thing. A vaccine + Education + Safe sex would be the ultimate (short of a cure for infected people). Cant understand why anyone would think a vaccine is not PART of the answer...
Don't let dudes cum in your ass. That's as good as an HIV vaccine.
Very intelligent. Is that what you'd say to an unborn child in the womb of a HIV + mother who may be able to benefit from this kind of vaccine? Tosser.:rolleyes:

Londoner
Sep 30th, 2011, 04:55 PM
Any advance in treatment and prevention is a life saver and to be welcomed.

Londoner
Sep 30th, 2011, 05:03 PM
I dont think anyone thinks having a HIV vaccine will rule out all health crisis for the rest of time, but its certainly a much needed thing. A vaccine + Education + Safe sex would be the ultimate (short of a cure for infected people). Cant understand why anyone would think a vaccine is not PART of the answer...

Very intelligent. Is that what you'd say to an unborn child in the womb of a HIV + mother who may be able to benefit from this kind of vaccine? Tosser.:rolleyes:

Agreed. We are all human. And it's not just anal sex, hence the change in terms from safe to safer sex. And it's not just sex either. But even if it was humans have sex!

Ciarán
Sep 30th, 2011, 05:39 PM
My friends are doing extremely well. Play tennis, golf, full time college professors, travel etc.

You'd never know that they are HIV positive. Neither has been hospitalized for an AIDS related illness though one guy has had some heart issues which may or may not be related to some of the medications.

It's tricky because some long term use of some of the meds may induce cardiac problems. However, he has had a history of cardiac problems in his family (his father died of a heart attack at age 68 but his father wasn't under a cardiologist's care). But who knows?

That's very nice to hear! As embarrassing as it is, I honestly thought once you contracted it you quickly became ill and remained so until your death within 3-5 years :help:. I feel very mislead and cheated by the British education system and sexual education surrounding the whole 'AID's' epidemic. So typically reserved and conservative and skip over all the 'nasty' parts. All I know is how it spreads and what 'Philadelphia' taught me really. I think schools need to do more on educating students about it, I never heard it mentioned ONCE in 14 years of schooling and I most certaintly didn't know people could go on living such a high quality of life for years, like your friends. It's nice your friends are taking the positives and making the most of a tragic situation :)

propi
Sep 30th, 2011, 07:35 PM
Awesome, it's still the very first step, but let's hope our scientist can get something really good from this :yeah:
And the funny thing is that this happens in Spain, were research and investigation expenses are constantly being cut down :rolleyes::help:

melodynelson
Sep 30th, 2011, 08:44 PM
As for the comment about not letting dudes come in your ass (other than being a very vulgar way of expressing that), and it being as good as an HIV vaccine, tops can catch it as well, if there is any kind of wound on the penis itself, anything with direct access to the blood stream. Isn't it possible to catch it from oral sex as well, if semen (or even pre ejaculation) is involved?

I would like to hear more substantiated reports about this before I get too happy. I'll probably never hear about it again and then miracle cure #9 appears in a few years again.

DemWilliamsGulls
Oct 1st, 2011, 12:32 AM
Any advance in treatment and prevention is a life saver and to be welcomed.

Agreed

jrollaneres25
Oct 1st, 2011, 02:06 AM
I doubt this is something to get excited about. Every now and then we hear great reports about a so-called effective HIV vaccine that ends up being discarted upon further investigation. We're still decades away from an effective HIV cure or vaccine, and that is a fact we're all going to have to get used to it.

And yeah, this may be pesimistic, but as a person who has been living with HIV for over five years I've learned not to get excited over every single guy that claims to have a cure.

Wow.... Well have you even looked into it?

delicatecutter
Oct 1st, 2011, 02:16 AM
HIV is now a condition you can live with. If I had it (and I have two exes who did), I wouldn't be all too optimistic about a sudden cure or vaccine.

Apoleb
Oct 1st, 2011, 08:48 AM
As for the comment about not letting dudes come in your ass (other than being a very vulgar way of expressing that), and it being as good as an HIV vaccine, tops can catch it as well, if there is any kind of wound on the penis itself, anything with direct access to the blood stream. Isn't it possible to catch it from oral sex as well, if semen (or even pre ejaculation) is involved?

I would like to hear more substantiated reports about this before I get too happy. I'll probably never hear about it again and then miracle cure #9 appears in a few years again.

Tops can get it but the incidence is much lower than bots. But it's still risky enough not to play Russian roulette. i.e wear a condom.

Oral sex: it's extremely low. However, people with oral sex and multiple partners have a significantly higher risk of oral cancer.

My take: sex with lots of partners, especially those that you don't know much about their sexual behavior, is not a healthy practice. I don't think it's worth the risks.