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M2k
Sep 25th, 2011, 05:01 AM
Well put on your skates everyone. The GP Series starts in three weeks :D

There have been a couple of Summer competitions already.
Mirai Nagasu has already won the B Senior comp in Germany: Nehelborn Trophy
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Some good outings from the US men.

Jason Brown - Brisbane JGP
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Joshua Farris - Poland JGP
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Ross Miner
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Plus is it just me or Javier Fernandez is turning into a mini-Orser ?
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Loving the new style :hearts:

cowsonice
Sep 25th, 2011, 05:23 AM
Ah, I can't believe it's going to be another season already.
I hope there's a new youngster for US ice skating. It's been dead for quite a while. Caroline Zhang.. :sad:

dybbuk
Sep 25th, 2011, 05:34 AM
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Cuter than your favorite. Win all of the awards, Yuzu-chan. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧

M2k
Sep 26th, 2011, 01:15 AM
Oh god! What in the world is that white thingie on his shoulder? :scared: I really want to see what becomes of Huyuru in a few years. A bit more refinement and better costuming, and he'll be Olympic champion material. Hopefully he quickly grows out of the"dramatic look at me " phace he seems to be in. It almost distracts from the beautiful qualities of his skating.

Anyone knows if we'll have the team competition at worlds this year? They should test the darn format before it debuts at the Olympics.
For now it looks like a battle between Japan and USA for Men's team final. I really hope it's four men per team instead of the rumored three men per team. :rolleyes: It'll make things a bit more exiting.

The US has so many potential line-ups for 2014 is mouthwatering :drool:

Richard Dornbush

Evan Lysacek

Armin Mahbanoozadeh

Joshua Farris

Ross Miner

Adam Rippon

Jason Brown

Max Aaron

Keegan Messing

Jeremy Abbott

Brandon Mroz
:hearts:

KoOlMaNsEaN
Oct 15th, 2011, 06:09 PM
Skate America starts in a week, then Skate Canada :D :bounce:

delicatecutter
Oct 15th, 2011, 07:14 PM
My cable provider dropped Universal Sports. :shout: No Tara commentary for me. :tears: I'm gutted. :sad: I heard Goddess Mao won't be competing on the Grand Prix this year but I hope it's not true.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Oct 15th, 2011, 08:21 PM
I heard Goddess Mao won't be competing on the Grand Prix this year but I hope it's not true.
I heard that Evan isnt going to compete in Skate America because he didn't come to a financial agreement with the USFSA....

cowsonice
Oct 15th, 2011, 09:37 PM
My cable provider dropped Universal Sports. :shout: No Tara commentary for me. :tears: I'm gutted. :sad: I heard Goddess Mao won't be competing on the Grand Prix this year but I hope it's not true.

Universal Sports as in NBC-owned?

Skate America field is eh. Alissa Czisny is absolute love. At her age, most people consider retiring but she keeps on skating. :hearts:

delicatecutter
Oct 15th, 2011, 10:47 PM
Yes, that Universal Sports. I am just disgusted thinking about it. I already missed most of the coverage of Gymnastics Worlds and now I'm going to miss practically the whole FS season. :tears:

I still can't stand Lysacek. Why can't he just leave us in peace?

antonella
Oct 15th, 2011, 11:02 PM
Universal Sports as in NBC-owned?

Skate America field is eh. Alissa Czisny is absolute love. At her age, most people consider retiring but she keeps on skating. :hearts:

She spent the summer working on triple-triple combinations and a triple lutz-triple toe which she's adding to her programs, which means, in her case, she'll end up either in 1st place:worship: or last place:lol: in the upcoming competitions.

http://media.spokesman.com/photos/2010/01/21/srx_skate_thurs_407_t400.jpg?

fifty-fifty
Oct 15th, 2011, 11:18 PM
My cable provider dropped Universal Sports. :shout: No Tara commentary for me. :tears: I'm gutted. :sad: I heard Goddess Mao won't be competing on the Grand Prix this year but I hope it's not true.

She's on a list, but it's unofficial
http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2011/gpsladies.htm

delicatecutter
Oct 15th, 2011, 11:23 PM
I've never liked Alissa Czisny either. And I hated it when she lost us 3 spots to Worlds and said her result was "out of her control". Bitch, please. It was in her control not to fall 85 times. AGAIN.

cowsonice
Oct 16th, 2011, 06:52 AM
Yeah, I didn't care much about figure skating after Sasha tried at Nationals for Vancouver and didn't qualify.
I also was really disappointed in Czisny with that situation, too, but it's not like Rachael Flatt helped either. :o I dislike Flatt so much. Everything about her was just average.

But Czisny's lines and spins are absolutely breathtaking.

Btw, Kimmie Meissner...talk about falling off the radar. Actually most figure skaters fall off the radar when their careers seem to be over :lol:

fifty-fifty
Oct 16th, 2011, 05:35 PM
I wonder who's favorite with ladies this season. Yu-Na probably skip the season and so will Miki. Mao can be a mess and Russians are too inconsistent.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Oct 22nd, 2011, 10:39 PM
Unsurprisingly for the first GP of the season, The Men's competition was a flop.

edificio
Oct 22nd, 2011, 11:42 PM
Unsurprisingly for the first GP of the season, The Men's competition was a flop.

But dance has some interesting newish performers. I liked that young Canadian team (his name is Asher Hill and her's is Kharis Something, can't remember). Dance just gets so shortchanged in coverage in the U.S. that I'm surprised there are so many young teams in the U.S. or from the U.S.

I look forward to the season, even if the men's competition could have been better at Skate America.

Lysacek won't be doing any of the Grand Prix events. He really needs to up his game/skills/artistry/etc. if he wants to challenge for the U.S. title, nevermind the World title.

Alissa Czisny is so disappointing so often that I expect nothing from her anymore. :shrug:

delicatecutter
Oct 23rd, 2011, 01:06 AM
I loved Kozuka's skating as always. Too bad about the jumps. :(

dybbuk
Oct 23rd, 2011, 09:06 PM
My thoughts:

Mens' event was so boring. Please get better than this.

WTF happened to Makarova. I thought she had potential last year. This was a trainwreck. Everything was a mess. I remember thinking at some point halfway through that she had yet to have anything approaching a clean jump.

My first thought when I saw Costner was "She's still going. OMG retire. :|" Seriously girl. I never liked you to begin with, please get off my screen.

Imai was good, I enjoyed her. But get more interesting music. There's few things worse than slow ass cello music when you're skating.

I actually liked Czisny. I'm often ambivalent about her, but this is a nice SP.

I've been critical of Zhang, but you have to give her credit for all the work she's put in. She basically lost--what?--2 years or so of her career so she could revamp all her technique. And judging from last night her jumping technique does look much better. She's also skating faster than what she used to. She'll of course never be as good as some Americans hyped her to be when she was 13, but she could have a nice enough career possibly if she continues like this.

meruvien
Oct 23rd, 2011, 10:46 PM
But dance has some interesting newish performers. I liked that young Canadian team (his name is Asher Hill and her's is Kharis Something, can't remember). Dance just gets so shortchanged in coverage in the U.S. that I'm surprised there are so many young teams in the U.S. or from the U.S.


I agree the new teams looked interesting but the problem is that the judges are killing the dance competition because Ok Fabian Bourzat was ill so not at his best but there's no way that's the classical (and kinda boring) free dance from white/davis worth 10 points more than the french team.

cowsonice
Oct 24th, 2011, 02:02 AM
I've been critical of Zhang, but you have to give her credit for all the work she's put in. She basically lost--what?--2 years or so of her career so she could revamp all her technique. And judging from last night her jumping technique does look much better. She's also skating faster than what she used to. She'll of course never be as good as some Americans hyped her to be when she was 13, but she could have a nice enough career possibly if she continues like this.

:sobbing: Oh Caroline. When she was younger, she totally got away with the poor technique...

delicatecutter
Oct 24th, 2011, 02:36 AM
Anyone care to post the ladies results? Universal Sports has left my market. :bigcry:

the jamierbelyea
Oct 24th, 2011, 02:48 AM
Anyone care to post the ladies results? Universal Sports has left my market. :bigcry:

http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpusa2011/CAT002RS.HTM

Alissa won a pretty dismal ladies event. She had a fall.

Carolina actually won the LP but couldn't overcome Alissa's 3 or 4 point SP lead.

To belabor the point Haruka Imai was 4th, and she finished 12th at last years Japanese Nationals. With a soft exception of Alissa and Carolina, I felt I was watching a junior competition.

Happy for Joelle to get her first Grand Prix start though. What perseverance she's shown!

delicatecutter
Oct 24th, 2011, 02:55 AM
Shanks bb! :kiss: I play Fantasy Skating via Usfsa.org. Nice to see I got Alissa right at least.

hurricanejeanne
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:01 AM
I finally had a moment to look up this thread and subscribe. :hearts:

Freakin' education is kicking my ass.

njnetswill
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:07 AM
Brandon Mroz first skater to land a quad lutz in ISU-sanctioned competition :worship:

delicatecutter
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:08 AM
Stunning jump from Brandon.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:10 AM
Details details details

The ISU recognizes and homologates the first quadruple Lutz performed in any sanctioned competition. Brandon Mroz (USA) executed the jump on September 16, 2011 during his Free Skating program at the Colorado Springs Invitational, a U.S. Figure Skating sanctioned event.

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delicatecutter
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:13 AM
It was a perfect quad Lutz. I hope he can do it in a competition that counts. And I don't even like the guy.

cowsonice
Oct 27th, 2011, 03:48 AM
Oh delicatecutter, who are your faves then? :lol:

That's pretty incredible, and he didn't flutz! IMO, quad loop would be the hardest to execute.

delicatecutter
Oct 27th, 2011, 04:21 AM
As far as male skaters go I love the Japanese. Takahashi and Kozuka. I adore Abbott as well but he's a headcase.

hurricanejeanne
Oct 27th, 2011, 04:24 AM
Details details details

The ISU recognizes and homologates the first quadruple Lutz performed in any sanctioned competition. Brandon Mroz (USA) executed the jump on September 16, 2011 during his Free Skating program at the Colorado Springs Invitational, a U.S. Figure Skating sanctioned event.

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:eek:

Uncharted
Oct 28th, 2011, 05:40 PM
I don't usually watch ice-skating, but I was flicking thru the channels and it was on Eurosport. Everytime one of those young girls jumped off the ice I had to close my eyes. I'm always waiting on them falling, unfortunately this kid did. Haruka Imai (she's also very beautiful and only 18. I felt a bit pervvy after watching her for so long, but she was gorgeous) anyway, I was meaning to check back and she how she did, I'm guessing she didn't win, but I forgot to. :o

KoOlMaNsEaN
Oct 29th, 2011, 03:04 PM
Well, Tuktamisheva leads after the SP at Skate Canada, landing a 3+3 combination and her other two jumps w ith a hand over her head. This was the 1st time I've ever seen her skate and I was thoroughly impressed :eek: She has a 5pt lead heading into the free over Wagner.

In the Men's, Patrick had an awful skate, he fell on his quad and he turned his triple axel into a double axel.... Meanwhile Javier Fernandez was the opposite! Quad toe, Triple Axel and a 3+3 combination, he's now being coached by Brian Orser and it really shows in his presentation as well :D

dybbuk
Oct 29th, 2011, 09:19 PM
Tuktamysheva won her debut GP event, 5 points over second place Suzuki. Ashley Wagner got the bronze. Flatt fell 7 spots to 10th after an awful FS. :haha:

I'm glad Wagner is finally starting to show some promise. She's a nice skater. She reminds me looks wise of Cornet. :lol:

KoOlMaNsEaN
Oct 29th, 2011, 10:48 PM
Tatiana and Maxim continue their impressive partnership with the Skate Canada title, winning by 21 points over Sui/Han. I find it hard to believe that anyone can beat these two at the Worlds if they continue on the way they are...

dybbuk
Oct 30th, 2011, 02:40 AM
Chan wins the Gold medal with a fall. Shocker, really. Who saw this coming? PChan never gets overscored! .__.

delicatecutter
Oct 30th, 2011, 02:48 AM
I didn't name him PatrickChanOverscore for nothing. :shrug:

Sir Stefwhit
Oct 30th, 2011, 07:50 AM
Chan is so yesterday.

I'm trying to love Davis/White long program, but I'm not sure I do.

What's up with Evan- is he back or not...wtf!?

No M.Ando, Yu-Na Kim, or Mao Asada- is that true?

Looking forward to seeing Mirai, but not gettin my hopes up- she alwYs deflates... :(. SpeKing of deflating....Caroline Zhang, what a pity.

M2k
Oct 30th, 2011, 12:15 PM
Oh what joy to see Javier Fernandez win silver at Skate Canada :clap2: He only lost to Chan by 5 point in the free skate!
What a transformation and what a SP :
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I got to say Chan has a weaker LP than last year, those ugly pants with red stripes didn't help either, but the short is quite charming and fun.

Pairs is a total disappointment for me. In two events we have seen pretty much all the top teams and what a shitfest it has been. V/T are imo overrated. I almost want to say they're mis-matched. S/S's programs this year seem like a step back from previous years. Sui/Han's daredevil attitude is fun to watch though.

Apart from D/W and Czisny (we have yet to see the Shibutanis) the US team has been a royal disappointment. :banghead:
Alissa's packaging this year is stunning. The pink dress oh my!
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Carolina K was a nice surprise, as was Capallini & Lanote SD :hearts: B/P have a lovely SD but the freedance is rather ugly.

Apoleb
Oct 30th, 2011, 12:33 PM
Does anyone have any idea about Maxim Trankov's sexuality? Thanks. Long shot I know.

delicatecutter
Oct 30th, 2011, 12:49 PM
He's straight. :p

Apoleb
Oct 30th, 2011, 12:55 PM
:bigcry: Any concrete evidence or is this just your gaydar?

delicatecutter
Oct 30th, 2011, 01:02 PM
I have concrete evidence. http://www.goldenskate.com/2011/06/volosozhar-and-trankov-a-perfect-match/

But there are definitely many gay American singles skaters for you to choose from. I swear every year's Nationals are like Mr. Gay USA. :bigcry:

Apoleb
Oct 30th, 2011, 01:19 PM
I have concrete evidence. http://www.goldenskate.com/2011/06/volosozhar-and-trankov-a-perfect-match/

But there are definitely many gay American singles skaters for you to choose from. I swear every year's Nationals are like Mr. Gay USA. :bigcry:

Unless I missed something, nothing there suggests he has (had) a gf. And his partner has her own fiancee, all the better. He also trains right across from where I used to live, so that means we are meant to be.

delicatecutter
Oct 30th, 2011, 01:28 PM
Yeah you missed something. "Volosozhar lives with Morozov and their dog while Trankov shares his apartment with his long-time girl friend Alexandra, a cat, and a dog." :p

M2k
Oct 30th, 2011, 07:19 PM
Good thing you came here and not a place like FSU...those V/T fans have serious issues.

I'm not entirely sold on Trankov's heterosexuality. For a time he had this strange obsession with Johnny Weir, which of course Maria would happily torture him with during practice sessions. :o Then all of the sudden it stopped. I always thought he was "exploring", but then again he also comes across as a bit needy and emo-ish.

While we're on topic, I got to say Patrick Chan sets my gaydar on fire. He sure seems enamored with the male pair skaters. People will say "he likes girls, He has a girlfriend" blah blah ... He pings! I'm sure in a couple of years we'll see him happily marry with Dylan Moskovich.

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I know it's staged and all...but Patrick you come loud and clear :p

cowsonice
Oct 30th, 2011, 08:20 PM
Just watched Chan's free skate on Universal this morning. Dear God, how did he win first? I know he doubled his axel, and fell on his opening jump, but he also tripped over his toepick or something in the middle of the program. :facepalm:

Adrian.
Oct 30th, 2011, 10:04 PM
Oh what joy to see Javier Fernandez win silver at Skate Canada :clap2: He only lost to Chan by 5 point in the free skate!
What a transformation and what a SP :
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I got to say Chan has a weaker LP than last year, those ugly pants with red stripes didn't help either, but the short is quite charming and fun.

Pairs is a total disappointment for me. In two events we have seen pretty much all the top teams and what a shitfest it has been. V/T are imo overrated. I almost want to say they're mis-matched. S/S's programs this year seem like a step back from previous years. Sui/Han's daredevil attitude is fun to watch though.

Apart from D/W and Czisny (we have yet to see the Shibutanis) the US team has been a royal disappointment. :banghead:
Alissa's packaging this year is stunning. The pink dress oh my!
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Carolina K was a nice surprise, as was Capallini & Lanote SD :hearts: B/P have a lovely SD but the freedance is rather ugly.

the boy's run was great :bowdown:

dybbuk
Oct 31st, 2011, 04:19 AM
But I don't want Chan to be gay. :C Straight people can keep him. With Johnny gone the only gays I care about are my baby gays Adam and Yuzu-chan.

GoofyDuck
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:25 AM
In Shanghai

Carolina Kostner just got first place after short program undeserved :o

British ES commentators couldn't believe it :lol:

delicatecutter
Nov 4th, 2011, 12:02 PM
Why? What happened? Best for Mirai to be in second place after the short. She tends to choke if she's in the lead. :o

Daruma.
Nov 4th, 2011, 12:14 PM
In Shanghai

Carolina Kostner just got first place after short program undeserved :o

British ES commentators couldn't believe it :lol:

They also predicted that it would be CLOSE between Shibutanis and the Russian team, turns out they were wrong! 8 points... :rolleyes:

M2k
Nov 4th, 2011, 03:43 PM
How in the world did B/S beat the Shibutanis by 8 points? :eek: I don't care if the Shibs lost levels on a lift and footwork, that monstrosity by B/S can't be that high scoring!!! :eek: They almost rival the French!!! :fiery:

delicatecutter
Nov 4th, 2011, 03:44 PM
How in the world did B/S beat the Shibutanis by 8 points? :eek: I don't care if the Shibs lost levels on a lift and footwork, that monstrosity by B/S can't be that high scoring!!! :eek: They almost rival the French!!! :fiery:

Politiks. :p

dybbuk
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:17 PM
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You all should just submit to your future figure skating overlord Yuzu-chan now tbh. He's more talented than your favorites and kawaii as fuck.

dybbuk
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:41 PM
Btw Gachinski is such a monumental bore. :tape: All he does is do a huge jump, bullshit his way through some uninspired choreograph, do another big jump and so on.

I like Abbott's program a lot this year.

fifty-fifty
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:50 PM
Btw Gachinski is such a monumental bore. :tape: All he does is do a huge jump, bullshit his way through some uninspired choreograph, do another big jump and so on.

I like Abbott's program a lot this year.

Does that mean that you don't care about jumps at all? Gachinsky improved a lot this season. He's only 18, just give him time.

dybbuk
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:56 PM
Where did you get that from? I just like skaters who can do both, which Gachinski cannot. He's incredibly inartistic and he can't even bullshit it so he seems like he's artistic like Plushenko or Lysacek could.

fifty-fifty
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:07 AM
Where did you get that from? I just like skaters who can do both, which Gachinski cannot. He's incredibly inartistic and he can't even bullshit it so he seems like he's artistic like Plushenko or Lysacek could.

Then why don't you just give him some credit for his athletic ability?

dybbuk
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:14 AM
I would. His jumps are really impressive, but for me that's not enough. Just look at Yuzuru, he's the same age but he's a much more complete skater. I don't have a responsibility as a spectator to coddle every skater and only focus on how amazing they are at axels or spins even if everything else sucks.

M2k
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:50 AM
Grachinski's jumps are high, but ugly in the air and when he lands them. There's very little run-out on the exit and his free leg dangles like it loses all it's power once the jump is done. :tape: It lessens the impact of the jump imo. Plus he also tilts in the air. Very Plushenko like.

Yuzuru whatshisname wants to be another Johnny Weir, which is ok, but I get the feeling his heat is not into skating longterm. Mark my words he'll end up burn out in about two years, or playing himself in some obscure reality tv show. :p

It's too bad Abbott can't jump his way out of a paper bag cuz' god knows his sp was ten times more entertaining:

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Please Jeremy! Don't let those two annoying twinks win!

dybbuk
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:00 AM
I would end you. Thankfully for you Yuzu-chan will be a benevolent leader and spare you when he rules figure skating.

delicatecutter
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:03 AM
I wonder how I'm doing in Fantasy. Probably not too well since I picked Nobunari. Hopefully he can have a great long program! :cheer:

fifty-fifty
Nov 5th, 2011, 03:21 AM
Grachinski's jumps are high, but ugly in the air and when he lands them. There's very little run-out on the exit and his free leg dangles like it loses all it's power once the jump is done. :tape: It lessens the impact of the jump imo. Plus he also tilts in the air. Very Plushenko like.

Yuzuru whatshisname wants to be another Johnny Weir, which is ok, but I get the feeling his heat is not into skating longterm. Mark my words he'll end up burn out in about two years, or playing himself in some obscure reality tv show. :p

It's too bad Abbott can't jump his way out of a paper bag cuz' god knows his sp was ten times more entertaining:

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Please Jeremy! Don't let those two annoying twinks win!


You wish! Your post seems to be motivated by xenophobia.


And Abbott's choreo is very cheesy and annoying.

delicatecutter
Nov 5th, 2011, 03:29 AM
Cheesy and annoying? :spit: Jer showed off his amaze versatility. What an excellent SP. He'd already be Olympic Champion if he had hit his Nats programs in Vancouver.

dybbuk
Nov 5th, 2011, 03:35 AM
Jeremy is usually basic for me. :awww: This program was the first of his I really liked. Petrova of figure skating tbh, what's the point of having any talent if you suck 80% of the time. He even had his short run of being the best skater in the world, like Nadia did in 2006.

delicatecutter
Nov 5th, 2011, 03:40 AM
Just no. Abbott nor Petrova were never the best in the world. I'm glad you like this program though. Your chosen one gives me bad anorexic wannabe Johnny Weir though. I'm sorry. And I'm an artistic connoisseur.

fifty-fifty
Nov 5th, 2011, 03:45 AM
Just no. Abbott nor Petrova were never the best in the world. I'm glad you like this program though. Your chosen one gives me bad anorexic wannabe Johnny Weir though. I'm sorry. And I'm an artistic connoisseur.

He's very talented, but there are some very striking similarities to Weir. For this reason I'm not jumping on the bandwagon. I'd like him to develop further in his style.

delicatecutter
Nov 5th, 2011, 03:50 AM
I don't not like him based on the Weir comparisons. I loved Johnny circa 04 when he won his first National title. It went downhill from there and that's what I think of when it comes to Hanyu. His skating is still juniorish as well. I stan for the other Japanese boys, except the one who drunk motoborbiked and knocked up his gf. :o

dybbuk
Nov 5th, 2011, 03:53 AM
Just no. Abbott nor Petrova were never the best in the world. I'm glad you like this program though. Your chosen one gives me bad anorexic wannabe Johnny Weir though. I'm sorry. And I'm an artistic connoisseur.

Nadia was briefly in 2006 during the clay season when she was beating everyone. And Jeremy was briefly when he was winning the Grand Prix and Nationals. :p I never said it lasted long.

And please. Yuzuru is one of the few atm who have any artistry in his body and can also jump. Figure skating is starved for figure skaters who can do both to any degree at all.

delicatecutter
Nov 5th, 2011, 03:58 AM
How far did Nadia get in 2006 RG? :sobbing: Neither one of them have any important titles to show for anything.

dybbuk
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:01 AM
How far did Nadia get in 2006 RG? :sobbing: Neither one of them have any important titles to show for anything.

She was injured and lost 1r. Before that though she had won like every big clay title and would obviously have went deep if she was healthy. And titles don't mean anything for the point I was trying to make. For a brief spell they were the best around, it didn't last long and they don't have Slams or Olympic golds to prove it, but they were the best for a brief time. For that matter someone like Jankovic was the best in late 2008, she has nothing that big to show for it, but she obviously was. That's what I meant.

Johnny stans for Yuzuru btw :p

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delicatecutter
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:11 AM
Of course he does. He's the inferior Jap version of himself. :o

dybbuk
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:14 AM
Stop hating! You're always complaining about there not being enough artistry in gymnastics and figure skating, and you finally get a young kid who had some and you're shooting him down before he even gets a chance to mature more! Just wait, Yuzu-chan will be World champion some day. ;A;

delicatecutter
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:19 AM
:spit: His "artistry" is artificial. I much prefer Kozuka. But anyway..

Is Mao competing in the GP? Doesn't seem so. So I think I'm about out. :sobbing:

fifty-fifty
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:20 AM
Of course he does. He's the inferior Jap version of himself. :o


:rolleyes:

delicatecutter
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:24 AM
:rolleyes:

OMG I'm so racist. Like Mao Asada isn't my savior. Get it together before you try to roll your eyes at me.

dybbuk
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:28 AM
:spit: His "artistry" is artificial. I much prefer Kozuka. But anyway..

Is Mao competing in the GP? Doesn't seem so. So I think I'm about out. :sobbing:

No. Pretty sure none of the big three girls are competing this year. And I don't see how you can criticize Yuzuru's artistry and stan for Mao, but I digress... :p

fifty-fifty
Nov 5th, 2011, 04:34 AM
OMG I'm so racist. Like Mao Asada isn't my savior. Get it together before you try to roll your eyes at me.

I didn't say you were a racist, but that was a racist word. You shouldn't have used it.

delicatecutter
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:44 PM
No. Pretty sure none of the big three girls are competing this year. And I don't see how you can criticize Yuzuru's artistry and stan for Mao, but I digress... :p

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Are you discounting the artistry in this performance? It gives me chills.

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It's perfection.

And I'm sorry Alex cause I think I was being a bit more mean and rude then I intended last night. :sobbing:

delicatecutter
Nov 5th, 2011, 02:40 PM
Also, I adore my Adelina Sotnikova. Nice to see she won the bronze. Her Bolero was everything it should be: avant garde and interesting shapes. Can't wait for the vid of her LP to surface. I love a good 3lutz/3loop.

Jeremy won being third in each phase. :spit: Now I see why people were saying Kostner was overscored in the short considering the almost did a nosedive on her loop, but she's always overscored. Poor Mirai had two jumps underrotated in the FS, which is so typical for her. Is it just me or does it look like she's packed on some pounds? :unsure: Hopefully it's just the video.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Nov 5th, 2011, 10:16 PM
I just watched the Mens and Paris Free on CBC and I absolutely adore Jeremy and Kawaguchi/Smirnov's programs :hearts: They are so lovely to watch and they completely capture me and put me in the moment, unlike the flailing up-tempo programs that I usually see nowadays!

M2k
Nov 6th, 2011, 01:24 AM
I loved Jeremy's FP * so much artistry and emotion :hearts:

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My condolences to dybbuk :p Oh well there's always next year.
You wish! Your post seems to be motivated by xenophobia.
And Abbott's choreo is very cheesy and annoying.

You wish! Your post seems to be motivated by xenophobia. Do you hate redheads? :rolleyes:

Stop being a little bitch! :(

M2k
Nov 6th, 2011, 01:32 AM
Also, I adore my Adelina Sotnikova. Nice to see she won the bronze. Her Bolero was everything it should be: avant garde and interesting shapes. Can't wait for the vid of her LP to surface. I love a good 3lutz/3loop.

Jeremy won being third in each phase. :spit: Now I see why people were saying Kostner was overscored in the short considering the almost did a nosedive on her loop, but she's always overscored. Poor Mirai had two jumps underrotated in the FS, which is so typical for her. Is it just me or does it look like she's packed on some pounds? :unsure: Hopefully it's just the video.

I came here to ask the very same question :o I mean not to be mean but she seems a bit more errr..."curvy" this year.

dybbuk
Nov 6th, 2011, 01:43 AM
I'm fine with a silver. He's still young and he's only going to get better. :angel:

M2k
Nov 6th, 2011, 02:33 AM
I'm fine with a silver. He's still young and he's only going to get better. :angel:

Wait! I though Yuzuru finished off the podium?

dybbuk
Nov 6th, 2011, 03:00 AM
Oh, I haven't watched the skates yet. I just skimmed an article. :o Oda got silver then. Well Yuzu-chan is still improving. He's already challenging for Gold medals and he's one of he youngest skaters around atm. Future World champion.

delicatecutter
Nov 6th, 2011, 03:15 AM
Yeah I forgot that he's only 16 so a lot of what I said last night is irrelevant. He has plenty of time to improve to be world-class.

Got to watch Skate Canada on TV with TARA LIPINSKI COMMENTARY. OMG I just about died. Elizaveta's technique is impeccable. :drool: I prefer Sotnikova but I just can't wait for Sochi already. The video of Elizaveta doing a perfect 3A makes me wonder why she doesn't have it in her program yet. Especially because you never know how hard the puberty monster will hit. Which brings us to Mirai. :unsure: I'm hoping Frank knows what he's doing and is peaking her for Nationals. Because she is looking big. Rachael is a hot mess and I can't see her lasting much longer juggling school with skating. Also, everyone hates her since she hid her injury at Worlds, which cost us a chance at 3 spots yet again. Ashley looks great; she's the fittest she's ever been and I love her hunger and candor.

LOVE Javier and not just because he's dreamy. The 4S was perfection. :hearts: PatrickChanOverscore deserved the win in my eyes just because his inbetweens are perfection. I know many people hate him because of his cockiness but his skating skills are impeccable. And Javier probably would have won if he hadn't doubled the loop. It would have been close!

cowsonice
Nov 6th, 2011, 08:49 PM
Tara Lipinski...she definitely felt like a flop to me. But she's more relevant than Sarah Hughes. -shudders-
Mirai and Rachael just need to go. They were pretty much why I stopped watching skating for a while. Mirai for being "better" than Caroline (it's just the coaching...) and Rachael for being the most drab skater out there. I find it interesting that Rachael chose Stanford considering how geographically inconvenient that place is... :bigwave:
Ashley was always a secret fave. I'm glad she's having a bit of breakthrough.

~{X}~
Nov 6th, 2011, 08:55 PM
Javier is my new love. :lol:

dybbuk
Nov 6th, 2011, 08:57 PM
Yeah I forgot that he's only 16 so a lot of what I said last night is irrelevant. He has plenty of time to improve to be world-class.

This is better, yes. He's going to be huge. He's my replacement of sorts for Adam who I fear will never fulfill his potential and be a perennial 5th-3rd place finisher.

delicatecutter
Nov 6th, 2011, 09:00 PM
Adam is going nowhere without a consistent 3axel or quad.

antonella
Nov 6th, 2011, 09:13 PM
Watching Rachael Flatt skate is about as exciting as watching flies fuck. She needs to concentrate on her studies and permanently put her skating on ice. And where the hell is Csizny??

dybbuk
Nov 6th, 2011, 09:17 PM
Adam is going nowhere without a consistent 3axel or quad.

True. Especially his triple axel. His quad is actually improving I think. But for whatever reason he can never hit all his axels during one event. Ah well, I still love watching him.

Watching Rachael Flatt skate is about as exciting as watching flies fuck. She needs to concentrate on her studies and permanently put her skating on ice. And where the hell is Csizny??

Alissa just won Skate America a couple weeks back. She'll be in Paris for Trophee Lombard next.

penkku
Nov 9th, 2011, 07:13 PM
Another season without skating for Laura Lepistö :sad: :hug:

Skater Laura Lepistös season is over. Due to leg nerve injury Lepisto is unable to train normally and will remain so between the European Championships as the Worlds. The second consecutive season without a single competition casts a shadow over Lepistös entire career.

http://yle.fi/urheilu/lajit/muut/taitoluistelu/2011/11/lepiston_kausi_ohi_-_uran_jatko_vaakalaudalla_3015568.html

delicatecutter
Nov 11th, 2011, 02:06 PM
MAO IS BACK!!!!!!

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Not sure how I feel about this program yet but I love how adored she is in Japan. :awww: Hope she can have a strong long program!!

ETA on second viewing, her presentation is so precious. Love it!!

GoofyDuck
Nov 11th, 2011, 02:26 PM
Missed it today .

The above video is not watchable where I live :(

delicatecutter
Nov 11th, 2011, 02:51 PM
OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!! Tara Lipinski just tweeted me!!! I can die a happy man now. :bigcry:

GoofyDuck
Nov 11th, 2011, 03:00 PM
I went to her twitter to look at it :lol:

congrats :yeah:

fifty-fifty
Nov 11th, 2011, 04:00 PM
MAO IS BACK!!!!!!

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Not sure how I feel about this program yet but I love how adored she is in Japan. :awww: Hope she can have a strong long program!!

ETA on second viewing, her presentation is so precious. Love it!!

Horrible program.

delicatecutter
Nov 11th, 2011, 04:10 PM
Horrible program.

Tara and I disagree. :ras:

oleada
Nov 11th, 2011, 08:21 PM
Elena and Nikita! :) :) :)

edificio
Nov 11th, 2011, 09:15 PM
MAO IS BACK!!!!!!

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Not sure how I feel about this program yet but I love how adored she is in Japan. :awww: Hope she can have a strong long program!!

ETA on second viewing, her presentation is so precious. Love it!!

Thanks for the link! I didn't even know Universal Sports posted them on YouTube.

I love Mao's program, but I feel as though Scheherezade should be a bit sexier, and that's not Mao's game (and didn't she miss/downgrade her first jump?). However, the choreography is beautiful and Mao doing it is beautiful. Good speed, good arms, good face, beautiful.

She looks so cute!

I can't imagine how Leonova and Suzuki were better, except for Mao missing her first jump. :shrug: Guess I'll have to see.

delicatecutter
Nov 11th, 2011, 09:26 PM
Yep she was going for the 3axel and popped it. :( If she would have done the double like her coach wanted she would be in 2nd. Mao likes to go for it though!

She looks so much faster and stronger than she did last season. It's great to see. :yeah:

I haven't watched Leonova or Suzuki yet. Apparently Akiko hit it out of the park with a 3t+3t combo. Many posters on Mao's forum thought that Leonova's PCS were too high and were mad that her footwork sequence got higher GOE than Mao's.

edificio
Nov 11th, 2011, 09:57 PM
I just watched Suzuki's program. She was shocked by her score. :) I think she did the jumps better, but she sure travels on her spins. Her arms are not beautiful either, especially when prepping for a jump. Picky, I know, but...Also, the program choreography combined with the music is not pleasing to me. That said, she skated quite well. I hate the music, though.

Also, the new young Russian dance team (Ilinykh and Katsalopov), seemed overscored while the Shibutanis underscored. The Shibutanis's unison skating is unbelievable.

Also, I hate so much when music is cut and pasted together. The Russian team needs better music editors.

njnetswill
Nov 11th, 2011, 10:41 PM
I really liked Suzuki's program. It's one of the rare programs where the footwork sequence really worked and didn't scream "THIS IS OBLIGATORY WHICH IS WHY I AM DOING THIS". It was cute to see how happy she was after nailing the program.

Since when do the ladies not have to do spiral sequences anymore? :confused:

delicatecutter
Nov 11th, 2011, 10:42 PM
They took out the spiral sequence last season. :( Mao's was gorgeous too.

M2k
Nov 12th, 2011, 02:43 PM
Oh the Shibutanis. Never seen them skate with so much fire and determination! I bet they were pissed being third after the OD. Congrats on the win Mia/Alex!

Asada was lovely too. The spiral at the end was glorious. :hearts:

delicatecutter
Nov 12th, 2011, 03:00 PM
Mao's best finish on the Grand Prix in two years. :cheer:

dybbuk
Nov 12th, 2011, 10:07 PM
Suzuki deserved it completely. I'm happy to finally see a strong performance all the way through, there haven't been too many of those so far this season. She does travel a bit on her spins and she popped a jump in the LP, but everything else was really good. Her short is probably my favorite of any women this season, it's so fun and everything flows wonderfully. It's so nice she's winning things now after having mental and physical issues early on in her career. :D

KoOlMaNsEaN
Nov 12th, 2011, 10:14 PM
:wavey: Welcome Back Mao :) I was smiling right through her performance, I guess as Tracy Wilson said, last year was a necessary evil to get to where she's going to 2014.
Akiko is just :hearts: Her consistency in her 2GP events and her overall program presentation have made me a fan.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Nov 12th, 2011, 10:15 PM
Oh the Shibutanis. Never seen them skate with so much fire and determination! . :hearts:
Fire? They had painted smiles on...

delicatecutter
Nov 13th, 2011, 02:19 AM
Suzuki deserved it completely. I'm happy to finally see a strong performance all the way through, there haven't been too many of those so far this season. She does travel a bit on her spins and she popped a jump in the LP, but everything else was really good. Her short is probably my favorite of any women this season, it's so fun and everything flows wonderfully. It's so nice she's winning things now after having mental and physical issues early on in her career. :D

I read she popped two jumps, but it's neither here nor there. Elizaveta has probably had the strongest overall performance of the season. She didn't miss anything. Mao missed the axel in the short, but she is in a different class than Suzuki, who is a good (but not great) skater. But I think most of us Mao fans are just happy to see her out there strong, happy, and confident. It's going to be a good season.

oleada
Nov 13th, 2011, 09:32 PM
Daisuke is a god :worship:

delicatecutter
Nov 14th, 2011, 12:39 AM
Wow just finished watching NHK on NBC. Tara was great as always. Mao was divine. LOVE Akiko's long program and she skates it so beautifully. Daisuke's Blues For Klook is a masterpiece. I live for that music and he gives it everything. He brings so much sexiness to it. God, what an artist! I'm even happy for Ross Miner because I live for his music, which my beloved DelSchoes used for one of their best programs.

the jamierbelyea
Nov 15th, 2011, 10:50 PM
At 30, Fumie Suguri has not hung up her skates yet, and intended on competing at the 2012 Japanese National Championships. Unfortunately due to her 2nd straight 7th place finish at Japanese Nationals she was not exempt into the finals, and had to compete at the Eastern Sectionals.

She finished 12th, and only the top 10 make it to Nationals. Suguri was apparently suffering from an ankle injury. It'll be interesting to see if she keeps on going forward.

Haruka Imai, who finished 4th at Skate America, won the Eastern Sectional, and leads the 10 skaters advancing to the National Championships of Japan.

dybbuk
Nov 19th, 2011, 04:03 AM
Haven't watched anything yet but Trophee Lombard has begun. Chang, Song and Brezina are the top 3. Rippon is 4th, Amodio 5th and Oda is 7th.

Tuktamisheva is first in Ladies, she's still kicking everyone's ass. Then Costner, Czinny and Murakami.

delicatecutter
Nov 19th, 2011, 04:11 AM
Tara (Lipinski not my sister) and I are not happy about Elizaveta's PCS. She seems to be getting docked just cause she's 14.

edificio
Nov 19th, 2011, 05:34 AM
Fumie Suguri always had such beautiful arms when skating. Too bad she couldn't make it through in supercompetitive Japan. So many nice skaters there.

edificio
Nov 19th, 2011, 05:36 AM
Tara (Lipinski not my sister) and I are not happy about Elizaveta's PCS. She seems to be getting docked just cause she's 14.

Interesting. I only saw Alissa and Carolina skate today, so...but I would be more inclined to think Elizaveta's PCS have been inflated because she's 14. :shrug: Everyone likes a young new thing, especially judges. I know Tara loves her, though. :lol:

GoofyDuck
Nov 19th, 2011, 06:57 PM
Elizaveta Tuktamisheva wins again. :worship:

delicatecutter
Nov 19th, 2011, 07:48 PM
Elizaveta!! :cheer: I will be pissed if she loses her jumps due to the puberty monster before she is old enough to compete at Worlds/Olympics. I hate the age restrictions.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Nov 20th, 2011, 12:46 AM
wtf just happened to Nobu? :tape: He looked lost out there!

delicatecutter
Nov 20th, 2011, 01:48 AM
I'm so pissed Kevin Reynolds pulled out and ruined my Fantasy Skating. I was doing so well too! :bigcry:

Kworb
Nov 20th, 2011, 01:57 AM
Tuktamysheva is great but I can't stand any of the music she skates to :facepalm:

delicatecutter
Nov 20th, 2011, 02:13 AM
Yeah, I don't really care for it either. :lol:

Sir Stefwhit
Nov 20th, 2011, 05:00 AM
:lol:I'm so pissed Kevin Reynolds pulled out and ruined my [b]Fantasy Skating[\b]. I was doing so well too! :bigcry:

:lol::lol: ..fantasy skating!? :lol::lol:

Didn't know such a thing existed... I'm already doing three American fantasy football leagues (NFL), but skating? It's my third favorite sport behind tennis and football, but fantasy skating sound so :tape: ...out of curiosity who do u have on ur team and how are u doing?

Paneru
Nov 20th, 2011, 05:28 AM
Elizaveta!! :cheer: I will be pissed if she loses her jumps due to the puberty monster before she is old enough to compete at Worlds/Olympics. I hate the age restrictions.

Looking at her body type(and I think puberty looks as if it could make her top heavy), a valid concern. She could go the way of Gedevanishvili.

delicatecutter
Nov 20th, 2011, 12:44 PM
:lol:

:lol::lol: ..fantasy skating!? :lol::lol:

Didn't know such a thing existed... I'm already doing three American fantasy football leagues (NFL), but skating? It's my third favorite sport behind tennis and football, but fantasy skating sound so :tape: ...out of curiosity who do u have on ur team and how are u doing?

http://www.usfsa.org/fantasyskating.asp

It's a lot of fun! Hundreds of people play. You pick a new team for every GP event and then later on Nationals, Europeans, 4CC, Worlds. I forgot to send for Skate Canada and then some dance team withdrew on me last week and then Reynolds this week so I'm not doing so well overall. However I did win Cup of China which is amazing!! My team name is Team Mao of course. :angel:

fifty-fifty
Nov 20th, 2011, 04:52 PM
cats watching Daisuke skating:lol:

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cowsonice
Nov 20th, 2011, 07:59 PM
Why is that every time I tune on Universal Sports, it's never singles? Always ice dancing and pairs :hysteric:

the jamierbelyea
Nov 21st, 2011, 05:54 AM
Why is that every time I tune on Universal Sports, it's never singles? Always ice dancing and pairs :hysteric:

If you're tuning in on Sunday, NBC shows the singles free skates most weeks. They hold the rights, and Universal Sports won't show them until after NBC has made their first-run broadcast.

NBC has been decent about showing the finals the same weekend, but Eric Bombard is going to be shown next Sunday instead.

delicatecutter
Nov 24th, 2011, 02:06 PM
Re-discovered this gem. :inlove:

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PERFECTION.

delicatecutter
Nov 28th, 2011, 01:12 AM
So I heard Rachael Flatt was much better than in Canada but it's clear the judges are retiring her. :hysteric:

Mao won her first GP in ages! :cheer: But her LP was a mess. Her basics are just so much better than Leonova, who also made mistakes.

I didn't watch any of the men; I will wait til it's on TV next weekend.

Tara tweeted me again. :hearts: Her commentary gives me so much life. I love how she is so critical and just her voice is so matter of fact. She's a candid bitch but gives props when deserved. :inlove: I also love all the haters she has on YouTube because she criticized their favorite skater. The most popular comment on many of the videos from last year's Worlds where she's commentating is "Shut up Tara." :hysteric:

I'm also so much more into skating than I was last season. Probably because Mao is skating better but I am living and breathing it. :hearts:

njnetswill
Nov 28th, 2011, 02:01 AM
Are videos of this year's Grand Prix with Tara's commentary on Youtube or only on TV?

delicatecutter
Nov 28th, 2011, 02:04 AM
I haven't seen any with her commentary on YouTube but I haven't really looked for them. Will do so now.

I don't think there are just because of the delay from when the events are competed until when they are broadcast.

Basically Tara loves Elizaveta the most. She's the only skater she hasn't criticized at all. Well, I take that back; she gave slight criticism for her bent arms and legs sometimes or sth. But she has given her excessive praise saying she sees her doing quads in the future. :lol: She also loves Suzuki and Asada. The biggest problem I have with Tuktamisheva is she still skates somewhat juniorish, which is to be expected.

dybbuk
Nov 28th, 2011, 02:51 AM
I have trouble with Tara's commentary just because I fucking hated her as a skater.

dybbuk
Nov 28th, 2011, 02:53 AM
And OMGGGGGGGGG Yuzu-chan won his first GP?! Sobbing.

Yuzu-chan!

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvclfgoU7S1qffwzy.gif

delicatecutter
Nov 28th, 2011, 02:54 AM
I honestly think that's what a lot of the hate comes from LOL. Those Kwan fans will be bitter until they die. But I loved Tara as a skater and was so happy when she won the Olympics. Her commentary is so entertaining. I laugh out loud like 4 to 5 times per program.

delicatecutter
Nov 28th, 2011, 02:56 AM
I found myself lusting over Adam Rippon this afternoon and I feel guilty about it. :sobbing:

dybbuk
Nov 28th, 2011, 02:58 AM
What brought up Adam? He's not even skating this week.

And there's nothing wrong with lusting after Grade A Twink.

delicatecutter
Nov 28th, 2011, 03:01 AM
NBC showed TEB today. :shrug: I want to see him with his shirt off to know if he's a certifiable twink. He could be hairy? :shrug: I was also lusting after Patrick Chan. :help:

dybbuk
Nov 28th, 2011, 03:04 AM
He's not hairy. There's an awkward photoshoot with him where he does some without a shirt. :p

delicatecutter
Nov 28th, 2011, 03:06 AM
Well yeah he's still 10 years younger than me. And not normally the kind of guy I go for. :sobbing:

cowsonice
Nov 28th, 2011, 03:17 AM
I have trouble with Tara's commentary just because I fucking hated her as a skater.

THISSSSSSS. :hysteric:

I caught a glimpse of ladies' singles on Universal Sports today finally. It was Kostner, and she's still the scratchy mess I remembered her to be.

xcrtbckhnd
Dec 9th, 2011, 03:20 AM
Mao has withdrawn from GPF due to mother's illness

delicatecutter
Dec 9th, 2011, 03:26 AM
Yes I am very saddened. It seems serious. :sobbing: I hope her mom will be OK.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Dec 9th, 2011, 03:26 AM
Did anyone else read about Patrick whining that he wishes he was more famous in Canada?
Link (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/figureskating/story/2011/12/08/sp-chan-figure-skating.html)
Even after defending him previously, he's turning me off with this one. If you want to compete for China and not Canada, what are you doing here? :rolleyes:

dybbuk
Dec 9th, 2011, 03:27 AM
Patrick should really stop opening his mouth. He always makes things worse when he speaks.

delicatecutter
Dec 9th, 2011, 03:29 AM
:spit: Patrick Chan Overscore has no reason to bitch about anything. :hysteric: My friend Dave insists he had his eyelids done but I honestly can't tell. :sobbing: And I don't think figure skating is that popular in China either, defo not more than Canada. He just likes to bitch and moan.

delicatecutter
Dec 9th, 2011, 03:21 PM
I just read Mao's mom has passed away. :( Horrible news and I wish Mao and her family the best wishes in such an awful time. I'm heartbroken for them. :bigcry:

fifty-fifty
Dec 9th, 2011, 06:30 PM
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/12/130801.html

The mother of Japanese figure skating star Mao Asada passed away early Friday morning, the skater's management agency IMG said. She was 48.

Two-time former world champion Asada pulled out of the Grand Prix Final in Quebec City early Thursday morning and returned to Japan after learning that her mother Kyoko, who had been battling liver cirrhosis, was in a critical condition.

Kyoko Asada passed away at a Nagoya hospital before Mao arrived back in Japan.:sad::sad::sad:

GoofyDuck
Dec 9th, 2011, 06:50 PM
This is very sad :(

cowsonice
Dec 10th, 2011, 12:53 AM
Mao :sad:
This is truly tragic. I wonder how she will move on from this point in the season. :hug:

--------------------

Chan can continue to stay pressed. He's just a mug who gets points off of hype. :wavey:

KoOlMaNsEaN
Dec 10th, 2011, 02:59 AM
:lol: I hope y'all just saw Patrick slam into the boards while doing his 4t+3t.

Almost did a Midori Ito lol

Paneru
Dec 10th, 2011, 03:28 AM
Oh wow, poor Mao. :sad:

God be with Mao and her family. :hug:



Chan can continue to stay pressed. He's just a mug who gets points off of hype. :wavey:

I'm so beyond :o of Chan and his continually being overscored.
What a joke!

delicatecutter
Dec 10th, 2011, 05:07 PM
:lol: I hope y'all just saw Patrick slam into the boards while doing his 4t+3t.

Almost did a Midori Ito lol

I laughed out loud. Only he would think he had enough room to land the 3t. :rolleyes:

PhilePhile
Dec 10th, 2011, 08:00 PM
I laughed out loud. Only he would think he had enough room to land the 3t. :rolleyes:

He is invincible :lol:

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KoOlMaNsEaN
Dec 10th, 2011, 10:17 PM
Did I just hear that correctly? Tracy Wilson just said Daisuke's quad has a 10% success rate, yet he continues to put it in his program?!

cowsonice
Dec 10th, 2011, 10:51 PM
:lol: I hope y'all just saw Patrick slam into the boards while doing his 4t+3t.

Almost did a Midori Ito lol

Any videos?? :)

fifty-fifty
Dec 10th, 2011, 11:09 PM
I missed Men's GPF LP. How many times did Chan fall?

fifty-fifty
Dec 10th, 2011, 11:37 PM
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Daisuke's program is probably the best of the season.

edificio
Dec 11th, 2011, 01:02 AM
I missed Men's GPF LP. How many times did Chan fall?

Only one official time, but three other jumps were iffy and it was a sloppy mess.

I almost threw something at the TV when they gave the win to Chan. Oh my god. Unbelievable!

Daisuke was amazing. The young Japanese guy was also pretty amazing.

It was a great competition, until they gave Chan such a huge amount of points for a very very sloppy program (I think it was 171).

Other than that, I feel sad for Mao losing her mother (so young, too).

edificio
Dec 11th, 2011, 01:04 AM
:lol: I hope y'all just saw Patrick slam into the boards while doing his 4t+3t.

Almost did a Midori Ito lol

And apparently they gave him a 9.5 for execution of that move. If he'd gone through the boards, he probably would have received a 10! Damned judges.

delicatecutter
Dec 11th, 2011, 01:12 AM
Well I knew Chan would win just because he rotated two quads and only had one fall. His program is incredibly difficult and he has great skating skills. Takahashi's program is divine but doesn't have the same technical content. And this is Patrick Chan Overscore we're talking about. Daisuke needed to be perfect and he missed the quad. And I hope Tracy was saying his quad flip (which he didn't go for) is 10%. I was happy Jeremy finally landed his quad and it was a beauty. But of course he can't put together a clean skate if his life depended on it. :sobbing: Also can't believe how far along Javier has come in such a short time under Orser's tutelage. He has the best quad sal I've ever seen. It is orgasmic really.

If Kostner finally wins Worlds this season with her weak technical content then God help us all.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Dec 11th, 2011, 01:17 AM
If Kostner finally wins Worlds this season with her weak technical content then God help us all.

Every time I see her win a competition I think about how Yuka Sato of '92 with her 3lo,3s,3t could even succeed these days...

edificio
Dec 11th, 2011, 01:18 AM
Well I knew Chan would win just because he rotated two quads and only had one fall. His program is incredibly difficult and he has great skating skills. Takahashi's program is divine but doesn't have the same technical content. And this is Patrick Chan Overscore we're talking about. Daisuke needed to be perfect and he missed the quad. And I hope Tracy was saying his quad flip (which he didn't go for) is 10%. I was happy Jeremy finally landed his quad and it was a beauty. But of course he can't put together a clean skate if his life depended on it. :sobbing: Also can't believe how far along Javier has come in such a short time under Orser's tutelage. He has the best quad sal I've ever seen. It is orgasmic really.

If Kostner finally wins Worlds this season with her weak technical content then God help us all.

Amen to this.

As for Kostner, well, her consistency has made a difference this year amongst inconsistent others.

delicatecutter
Dec 11th, 2011, 01:24 AM
But Kostner is still making mistakes. :sobbing: It's just that the other ladies made more and sadly Mao had to pull out. :(

dybbuk
Dec 11th, 2011, 02:42 AM
I almost wish Miki wasn't taking a year off. She could probably be cleaning up this year with all the women sucking + now Mao's problems. She wouldn't even need to be that good, she would just need to be fairly consistent.

Kostner has always bored me to tears. She has nothing that has ever excited me. When she's at her best she's quite smooth in her movement; it's really all I can give her that sets her apart from the average skater. She just feasts on these weaker years for her bigger titles.

A GP Gold + a 4th place finish at the Grand Prix. Pretty good for a 16 year old. Yuzu-chan. :worship:

PhilePhile
Dec 11th, 2011, 07:32 AM
Did anyone else read about Patrick whining that he wishes he was more famous in Canada?
Link (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/figureskating/story/2011/12/08/sp-chan-figure-skating.html)
Even after defending him previously, he's turning me off with this one. If you want to compete for China and not Canada, what are you doing here? :rolleyes:

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Chan's effortless skating is very rare. It's like the "Steffi Graf" and "Roger Federer" of tennis in term of talent and skill. And only some of the "greats" possess. Here is Kurt Browning. Notice the performance (not the "skating") is just an extension of his artistic expression.

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Sir Stefwhit
Dec 11th, 2011, 08:36 PM
It sickens me to no end watching Kostner and Chan get over-scored time and again. While skaters like Marai Nagasu, Mao Aaada, and D. Takahashi, routinely get under-scored. I guess judges are particular to certain skaters while being overly critical toward others. With that said I'm one of those in the minority thar still appreciates the current scoring system over the 6.0 system. While it's not perfect, I think it's a tad bit more difficult for the judges to play favorites.

GoofyDuck
Dec 11th, 2011, 09:17 PM
I don't understand why judges like Kostner.

cowsonice
Dec 11th, 2011, 09:19 PM
Doesn't Mirai underrotate a lot on her jumps so she gets docked more often?

The thing is, the group of judges together overscores these skaters, so the computer can randomly toss out scores but the chances of getting a better score is still high. :crying2:

delicatecutter
Dec 11th, 2011, 10:12 PM
I don't understand why judges like Kostner.

She's skates with a lot of speed and has great skating skills. I also think her presentation is pretty good. She also has the backing of Western Europe politically.

Doesn't Mirai underrotate a lot on her jumps so she gets docked more often?


Yes. I also think she doesn't train as hard as she could and frankly looks out of shape this season so far.

M2k
Dec 12th, 2011, 12:29 AM
... I hope those people that wanted quads are happy now :tape:

IMO a fall should be an automatic loss of at least half the points of that element. I mean 9+ pts. for a fall? :eek: Gross!

Though I don't feel bad for Daisuke since even under the old system he would have finished 2nd at best. Let's take that world tittle back Takahashi!
Abbott is finished I'm afraid. I get the feeling he won't get out of nationals.

Dance and pairs were exciting! :hearts:

Yay! Jason Brown, The Russian junior ladies, and Kosner! :hearts:

M2k
Dec 12th, 2011, 12:32 AM
OMG! I just read about Mao! :eek:
Poor girl! With the tragedy earlier this year and now her mother's passing :sad:

fifty-fifty
Dec 12th, 2011, 01:21 AM
... I hope those people that wanted quads are happy now :tape:

IMO a fall should be an automatic loss of at least half the points of that element. I mean 9+ pts. for a fall? :eek: Gross!

Though I don't feel bad for Daisuke since even under the old system he would have finished 2nd at best. Let's take that world tittle back Takahashi!
Abbott is finished I'm afraid. I get the feeling he won't get out of nationals.

Dance and pairs were exciting! :hearts:

Yay! Jason Brown, The Russian junior ladies, and Kosner! :hearts:


Chan didn't win because of quads, but because they skated in Canada.

delicatecutter
Dec 12th, 2011, 01:32 AM
Something needs to be done to the PCS guidelines. If you have 3 mistakes you should not be allowed to get 9s. I don't think Chan won cause the competition was in Canada. I like this system more than the one gymnastics adopted and I do appreciate how they are constantly tweaking things on the TES side. But they need to fix the PCS. Stat. This is what keeps allowing Chan to win despite all the mistakes he makes. I know they want to keep things separate, but let's be honest. How good are your skating skills in a program when you fall, turn out, and put a hand down on 3 jumps? It definitely affects the performance and interpretation of the program. Chan beating Takahashi on PCS for that performance is a crime.

cowsonice
Dec 12th, 2011, 02:58 AM
Let's face it. The ISU created an entirely new judging system in response to that 2002 Olympics scandal. So they structure it more objectively, by creating grades of execution, minimums on seconds on a spiral, turns in a spin, and suddenly the "artistic" form of figure skating gets lost. Figure skating has become more technical, more predictable..."if I do a triple loop after the halfway point, I'm going to get more points!"

Patrick Chan is just another skater who lives in this sortof bygone era. Part of what made figure skating more exciting back then was that everything was judged on overall quality, which is how most audiences remember performances. Chan is just part of the grand scheme of trying to make figure skating popular in the world again, especially in "Canada" :rolleyes:

fifty-fifty
Dec 12th, 2011, 02:08 PM
Something needs to be done to the PCS guidelines. If you have 3 mistakes you should not be allowed to get 9s. I don't think Chan won cause the competition was in Canada. I like this system more than the one gymnastics adopted and I do appreciate how they are constantly tweaking things on the TES side. But they need to fix the PCS. Stat. This is what keeps allowing Chan to win despite all the mistakes he makes. I know they want to keep things separate, but let's be honest. How good are your skating skills in a program when you fall, turn out, and put a hand down on 3 jumps? It definitely affects the performance and interpretation of the program. Chan beating Takahashi on PCS for that performance is a crime.


There are problems with PCS scoring like you mentioned, but believe me there was a Canadian bonus in Chan's scores.

delicatecutter
Dec 12th, 2011, 02:34 PM
Where was the Canadian bonus in Virtue/Moir's scores? They still lost the Free Dance.

GoofyDuck
Dec 12th, 2011, 04:22 PM
Because ISU judges are the people who have somehow been involved in skating at an early age either as a skater or as a trainer. In order to be assigned to an ISU competition you need to judge international and national events for years and be a high-ranked judge (yes, there is a ranking and only those whose judging history is perfect are assigned to big competitions). So without a doubt they know who is a quality skater and who is not better than you and some others who only watch skating and who do not have the necessary knowledge to evaluate a performance. (I'm not implying that I know how to evaluate a performance, but I know that judges KNOW skating better than fans who only moan over and over again.)

:crying2:

I prefer impressive jumps and elements rather than Kostner's speed.

But I understand that the entire performance is in Kostner's favor, especially when Mirai etc fail on their jumps.

cowsonice
Dec 13th, 2011, 12:27 AM
Kostner has speed but her strokes technique is so terrible, so scratchy :tape:

NoppaNoppa
Dec 13th, 2011, 01:25 AM
You heard it in here first.

In finnish (partly russian)
The next great Finn - Alisa Mikonsaari (http://areena.yle.fi/video/1323632940606)
Coached by Alexey Urmanov

KournikovaFan91
Dec 13th, 2011, 01:40 AM
Where was the Canadian bonus in Virtue/Moir's scores? They still lost the Free Dance.

The North American Bonus was granted to Team Snoozefest over Team Wholesome this time.

Admittedly I only watched the SD but by God was I infuriated by those constant repeats of Moir's fall and the shots of how well he was taking it in the kiss and cry :mad:

delicatecutter
Dec 13th, 2011, 02:19 AM
That doesn't make sense as the 2 NA teams are clearly the 2 best in the world. So if there is a Canadian bonus (as I assumed fifty-fifty was saying as the GPF was in Canada), it would go to the Canadians. But no, they lost the FD. I don't see much of a collusion between the US and Canada judging-wise anyway. We both have our own interests to politick for. It's not like Western Europe where they have: Korpi (hot mess), Lepeisto (yeah she really earned that World bronze with 2 or 3 clean triples), and Kostner (current jackpot!). So there is no US/Canada alliance to speak of.

Sir Stefwhit
Dec 13th, 2011, 11:18 PM
... I hope those people that wanted quads are happy now :tape:

IMO a fall should be an automatic loss of at least half the points of that element. I mean 9+ pts. for a fall? :eek: Gross!

Though I don't feel bad for Daisuke since even under the old system he would have finished 2nd at best. Let's take that world tittle back Takahashi!
Abbott is finished I'm afraid. I get the feeling he won't get out of nationals.

Dance and pairs were exciting! :hearts:

Yay! Jason Brown, The Russian junior ladies, and Kosner! :hearts:

What confuses me is that the women are under the same scoring system, but unlike the men, the women aren't pushing themselves. As a result, conservative skaters are still reaping reward. You have the old crop who aren't training new jumps or trying to increase difficulty instead they focus on maximizing points on other elements. There's still a lot of room for subjectivity and depending on who ur favorites are, that can suck- but it's still a much improved system.

The women who seem to be embracing technical difficulty are generally those under 20. The young guns are making major noise and making things interesting.

To your point about getting so many points on a fall I agree 100% it's ridiculous. I appreciate the idea of rewarding risk though. Maybe increase the points u get for completing it and REALLY reward that element, but if u miss- 1pt for the effort and that's it!

Keeping in mind nothing's perfect, I'm all for the new system. There are some things I would love to amend, but at least there's more accountability. It's a lot harder to show preference- even still, being strong technically benefits u more than artistry.

Sir Stefwhit
Dec 13th, 2011, 11:30 PM
So happy for Davis and White!!! I love their rivalry Virtue and Moir- and all four turn me on!! These days I find more joy in ice dancing than I ever have before! For years I didn't really appreciate that discipline. It was always my least favorite. But now I see that I had it all wrong. When pairs dancing is done right it really takes u on the journey the skaters are portraying through dance....fUk!! I sound so gay right now....lol

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"The closeness of the points was will drive us even more," said Davis. "We work very hard every day but having Scott and Tessa there right next to us pushes us that much more."

KournikovaFan91
Dec 14th, 2011, 12:05 AM
I haven't really liked ice dance since Navka and Kostomarov retired :o I liked Dominina but not that lump she danced with.

Also still pissed by the abolition of the compulsory dance.

delicatecutter
Dec 14th, 2011, 12:13 AM
I can't follow ice dance since they got rid of the CD. I just can't with this short dance BS. And I am not happy that Tessa and Scott keep losing to Marlie.

edificio
Dec 14th, 2011, 01:05 AM
Moir is kind of a sexy dude in that all-black outfit. Still, I thought Davis and White skated better on both dances. Also, I too think the new short dance is a bit of BS. I wish they would go back to the old method.

As for new young Finn skaters, bring them on. I still think 1/4 of Korpi's score comes from, "she's so pretty and golden." :lol: Luckily, the commentators aren't scoring sometimes.

Basically, I hope all those new young Russian skaters and those from other countries in women's figure skating develop creatively, aesthetically, and athletically. They need to push the sport more. Women's figure skating was really pretty sad and boring this year, except for seeing Mao coming back to life (her spiral at the end of her long program is so beautiful).

Sir Stefwhit
Dec 14th, 2011, 01:26 AM
No more compulsory dance!!! Didn't they have three skates they used to have to do? I'm sure the spike in my interest had to do with things being simplified- it's more fan friendly the way the do it now...dontcha' think?

delicatecutter
Dec 14th, 2011, 01:30 AM
No! I loved the CDs. It really showed you who had the best basics. I lived for Domnina and partner's CD in Vancouver. It was heaven. :inlove: Then you had the original dance, which had required elements but was still enjoyable to watch. Now they've combined the two into this wretched "short dance". :vomit:

edificio
Dec 14th, 2011, 01:42 AM
I don't really miss the compulsory dance, but I don't like how they corrupted the original dance.

delicatecutter
Dec 14th, 2011, 01:50 AM
Yes. If they were going to eliminate the CD, which we all knew was coming, they should have just kept the OD and FD the way they were. The only time I ever really saw the CDs were at Worlds and Olympics anyway. The new short dance is just an abomination.

KournikovaFan91
Dec 14th, 2011, 02:15 AM
No! I loved the CDs. It really showed you who had the best basics. I lived for Domnina and partner's CD in Vancouver. It was heaven. :inlove:

:bowdown:

Pity it went downhill from there :sobbing: But their CD was amazeballs :hearts:

delicatecutter
Dec 14th, 2011, 02:18 AM
:bowdown:

Pity it went downhill from there :sobbing: But their CD was amazeballs :hearts:

Sadly she had to carry around a cripple the other two programs. It's a damn shame the rumor about her competing with her bf Kostomorov never came to fruition.

KournikovaFan91
Dec 14th, 2011, 02:23 AM
IKR :sobbing: That would have been epic :sad:

I was mad that they didn't even manage silver (thanks Shabalin). I mean Meryl Davis finishing ahead of Oksana :tape: I remember the heated debates in the threads here at the time. I instigated much of it :oh:

Just re-watched the CD on youtube :hearts: She looks smoking in that red dress too :hearts:

delicatecutter
Dec 14th, 2011, 02:32 AM
Oksana was fucking amaze but even she couldn't drag Max to more than bronze. They did get their World Title at least, which many ppl stll think was controversial. So I don't feel that bad for them.

Don't get me started on Marlie. Crime that they are World Champions and seem to be aimed to repeat. :facepalm:

Sir Stefwhit
Dec 14th, 2011, 02:53 AM
More rock solid skating and ice dance mastery!! It's pretty obvious why they are the world champions. I'm sooooo glad it's no longer just a popularity contest. People may complain that artistry suffers when people concentrate gaining points through elements. But Davis and White have mastered combining technical difficulty, with out of this world artistry.

For better or worse, skating will always be a sport with subjective view points. I know I NEVER understood what people saw in Maria Butriaskya(sp?)- she was another who was routinely over-scored.

delicatecutter
Dec 14th, 2011, 02:56 AM
Maria was never overscored at Worlds or Olympics where it most mattered. :shrug: Many of us think she should have won bronze in 98.

Sir Stefwhit
Dec 14th, 2011, 01:44 PM
^thank God! I agree about Olymoics, but not Worlds....

fifty-fifty
Dec 14th, 2011, 04:25 PM
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/sp20111214it.html

The Japan nationals are less than two weeks away, and Mao said Monday that she intends to compete.

Mao is a very strong girl. I wish her all the best.

Kworb
Dec 18th, 2011, 12:39 PM
Brian :hearts: be as good (or even better) at the more important competitions please!! He landed a quad and two triple axels in FP :sobbing:

French nationals results

MEN (final standings)
1. Brian Joubert – 230.97
2. Florent Amodio – 210.42
3. Chafik Besseghier – 183.67
4. Noel-Antoine Pierre – 159.87
5. Charles Tetar – 158.32
6. Simon Hocquaux – 149.89
7. Adrien Tesson – 142.47
8. Gaylord Lavoisier – 138.46
9. Aurelien Robert – 135.65
10. Timofei Novaikin – 132.61
11. Maxime Petraru – 125.81
12. Dimitri Christodoulides – 114.14

LADIES (final standings)
1. Yretha Silete – 142.21
2. Mae Berenice Meite – 143.74
3. Anais Ventard – 143.74
4. Lena Marocco – 134.48
5. Lenaelle Gilleron-Gory – 129.03
6. Laurine Lecavelier – 121.79
7. Laurianne Cirilli – 114.63
8. Bahia Taleb – 112.03
9. Flora Leblanc – 107.46
10. Gabrielle Scalzo – 98.22
11. Aline Zerourou – 95.13
12. Sarah Feriaux-Rubin – 83.34

PAIRS (final standings)
1. Daria Popova/Bruno Massot – 137.75
2. Vanessa James/Morgan Cipres – 128.83
3. Anne-Laure Letscher/Artem Patlasov – 104.06

DANCE (final standings)
1. Nathalie Pechalat/Fabian Bourzat – 173.75
2. Pernelle Carron/Lloyd Jones – 142.69
3. Tiffany Zahorski/Alexis Miart – 120.49
4. Charlene Denize/Quentin Langlois – 94.02
5. Harmonie Lafont/Stanislas Etzol – 91.35
6. Elektra Hetman/Benjamin Allain – 91.22

Daruma.
Dec 19th, 2011, 08:53 AM
There was a B-level international competition in İstanbul last week.

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Here is me with Viktoria Pavuk. She was incredibly sweet. :)

delicatecutter
Dec 20th, 2011, 03:29 AM
You look nice. But no reason to talk about my looks like you did before. :o

Paneru
Dec 20th, 2011, 07:53 AM
Many of us think she should have won bronze in 98.

Really?

Well, artistically I prefer Chen Lu, but technically she flipped out of her flip, I think the 2nd lutz was questionable, and that 3/3 was not completed.

Maybe had Maria's jumps not been so stilted and uneven and she had been more relaxed and connected to the music as she was at worlds(loved the performance even the freak fall) then bronze would have been her's.

Bagel-Monica
Dec 20th, 2011, 08:14 AM
:bounce:

fifty-fifty
Dec 24th, 2011, 07:06 PM
Japanese Men`s Nationals Podium

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwpoichVv41qh7onio1_500.jpg

the jamierbelyea
Dec 24th, 2011, 07:24 PM
Japanese Nationals Ladies SP Results

1. Kanako Murakami 65.56
2. Mao Asada 65.40
3. Akiko Suzuki 59.60
4. Yuki Nishio 58.52
5. Haruka Imai 57.82
6. Kana Muramoto 54.20

Mao & Akiko are the only two who scored over 30 for PCS scores, while Kanako was just there at 29.64.

delicatecutter
Dec 24th, 2011, 07:39 PM
Hopefully Mao-chan can have a clean skate. Her lutz and salchow are :unsure: though. I'm scared. She is so brave to be skating here and I hope she can get her fifth National title as Daisuke did.

NoppaNoppa
Dec 24th, 2011, 11:20 PM
Finnish championship. Final result

1 Kiira KORPI 170.98
2 Juulia TURKKILA 145.39
3 Beata PAPP 129.20

(Laura Lepistö out injured)

delicatecutter
Dec 25th, 2011, 08:57 PM
Mao-chan won!!! :cheer: So proud of her after what has been undoubtedly a devastating past few weeks for her. :tears: Akiko won silver and Kanako won bronze. Murakami's basics, carriage, and telegraphing = :tape:

the jamierbelyea
Dec 25th, 2011, 09:26 PM
Some opposite results for the LP.

Asada finished 2nd in both programs,but it was enough for first. Akiko won the FS, but by only by one point, so she was unable to make up for her deficit. Murakami was 6th best in the LP, but 4th-8th were only separated by 6 points or so.

Big surprise was Satoko Miyahara who had a 116 in the LP, moving up from 15th to 6th, after finishing 3rd in the LP.

Satoko is only 13 and just won Japanese Junior Nationals. Also moving up was fellow junior Risa Shoji who moved up from 11th to 7th after the LP. Risa did a bit better on the JGP circuit this year.

Here's the SP + LP from Poland JGP where Satoko finished 2nd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAuD9PJqq5g
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh3zO3YbN2o
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fifty-fifty
Dec 27th, 2011, 06:24 PM
Russian Nationals Ladies

1 Adelina Sotnikova MOS 193.71 1 2
2 Julia Lipnitskii MOS 191.65 3 1
3 Alena Leonova SPB 178.15 5 3
4 Ksenia Makarova SPB 175.49 2 6
5 Elena Radionova MOS 174.81 6 5
6 Elizabeth Tuktamysheva SPB 174.40 7 4
7 Pauline Korobeinikova MOS 165.57 8 9
8 Evgenia Medvedeva MOS 161.74 11 8
9 Sophia BIRYUKOVA MOS 156.11 4 14
10 Pauline Shelepen MOS 154.78 17 7

delicatecutter
Dec 27th, 2011, 06:37 PM
Adelina and Julia are so good. :hearts: And I loved Ksenia's SP. It was heavenly. :inlove:

KoOlMaNsEaN
Dec 27th, 2011, 07:23 PM
:eek: what has happened to elizaveta? Maybe she peaked too early in the season.

So which Russians go to the Worlds and which ones go to the World Jrs?

dybbuk
Dec 27th, 2011, 07:38 PM
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Sorry your favorite isn't as amazing as Yuzu-chan. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

fifty-fifty
Dec 27th, 2011, 09:14 PM
So which Russians go to the Worlds and which ones go to the World Jrs?

It should be for Sr. Euros & Worlds

Alena Leonova
Ksenia Makarova
Paulina Korobeinikova

delicatecutter
Dec 28th, 2011, 12:03 AM
Three National titles by the age of 15! Too bad she got screwed by being born one day too late to skate at Worlds. :shout:

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Lipnitskaia is perfection. :hearts:

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KoOlMaNsEaN
Dec 28th, 2011, 12:12 AM
2012 Russian Nationals Men's

1- Evgeni Plushenko 259.67
2- Artur Gachinski 249.58
3- Sergei Voronov 240.79
4- Zhan Bush 223.30
5- Artur Dmitriev Jr. 220.29
6- Ivan Bariev 219.87
7- Konstantin Menshov 219.28
8- Gordei Gorshkov 210.28
9- Stanislav Kovalev 203.33
10- Artem Grigoriev 201.06

the jamierbelyea
Dec 28th, 2011, 12:24 AM
Bazarova and Larionov won the pairs Russians championship, although Kavaguti/Smirnoff and Volosozhar/Trankov both withdrew before the competition.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Jan 17th, 2012, 11:41 PM
Canadian Nationals are this week while the U.S's are next week :bounce:
Obviously Chan and V/M are fully expected to breeze to their titles. Pairs should be the most competitive with Moore Towers/Moscovitch and Duhamel/Radford battling for the top spot.

cowsonice
Jan 18th, 2012, 04:43 AM
Universal Sports is no longer found on my TV after the new year started. :hysteric: The relevancy of ice skating :no:

the jamierbelyea
Jan 18th, 2012, 05:18 AM
Universal Sports is no longer found on my TV after the new year started. :hysteric: The relevancy of ice skating :no:

I lost it too :(

Sir Stefwhit
Jan 18th, 2012, 10:46 AM
^yeah me too, SUCKS! I know that NBC has launched NBCSports, so a lot of the Olympic sports they use to show on Universal they show there, but sadly I haven't seen figure skating listed.

cowsonice
Jan 19th, 2012, 01:13 AM
Unless there is another GOAT like Michelle Kwan, ice skating is going to die pretty quickly in the US. It's too expensive, too inaccessible, and gives way to hockey. :o

I don't mean to write it off but the life expectancy as a pro ice skater is decreasing.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Jan 21st, 2012, 09:52 PM
fyi, Today at Canadians, Chan hit everything and scored a mind-boggling 101.33 points in the short program.

edificio
Jan 21st, 2012, 10:24 PM
fyi, Today at Canadians, Chan hit everything and scored a mind-boggling 101.33 points in the short program.

So he didn't fall and he wasn't overscored? :confused:

Just kidding. Sort of.

I watched some of the juniors on the CFS championship stream on UStream.

As for the USFS championship, I am so sad that Universal Sports is no longer available to me. I can't see NBC doing a good job, but we shall see.

edificio
Jan 21st, 2012, 10:27 PM
2012 Russian Nationals Men's

1- Evgeni Plushenko 259.67
2- Artur Gachinski 249.58
3- Sergei Voronov 240.79
4- Zhan Bush 223.30
5- Artur Dmitriev Jr. 220.29
6- Ivan Bariev 219.87
7- Konstantin Menshov 219.28
8- Gordei Gorshkov 210.28
9- Stanislav Kovalev 203.33
10- Artem Grigoriev 201.06

I'm surprised there wasn't a bigger gap between Plushenko and the others. Russian men's skating has been subpar since he "retired."

Gachinski needs to be consistent, but this score suggests that he was pretty decent.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Jan 22nd, 2012, 02:51 AM
2012 Canadian Championships

Ladies' Results
1- Amelie Lacoste 159.51
2- Cynthia Phaneuf 157.94
3- Kaetlyn Osmond 155.47
4- Alexandra Najarro 151.56
5- Adriana DeSanctis 142.66

It was to put it bluntly, a splat fest.

Pairs Results
1- Duhamel/Radford 190.11
2- Dube/Wolfe 171.60
3- Lawrence/Swiegers 168.84
4- Moore-Towers/Moscovitch 164.42
5- Steele/Schultz 144.33

Megan and Eric skated the performance of their lives and fully deserved their first title. The rest of the top 5 had a minimum of 3 mistakes in their programs.

Ice Dance Results
1- Virtue/Moir 180.02
2- Weaver/Poje 174.53
3- Gilles/Poirier 163.54
4- Ralph/Hill 147.51
5- Paul/Islam 146.48

V/M had a fall in the SD but managed to skate a fantastic FD to win their 4th Canadian crown. Gilles/Poirier are unable to go to worlds since Piper will not be released by the USFSA until May of this year which is a pity because they were clearly 3rd as they skated to a Christopher Dean choreographed FD.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Jan 22nd, 2012, 02:53 AM
So he didn't fall and he wasn't overscored? :confused:.

He successfully landed his 4t+3t 3ax 3lz. Scoring over 100 is a bit much but national judging is well known to boost scores. Men's Free is tomorrow afternoon.

edificio
Jan 22nd, 2012, 04:17 AM
What are the short program standings for the men?

KoOlMaNsEaN
Jan 22nd, 2012, 04:21 AM
What are the short program standings for the men?

Top Six Men's Short Program Results
1- Patrick Chan 101.33
2- Kevin Reynolds 80.81
3- Jeremy Ten 70.81
4- Elladj Balde 68.32
5- Liam Firus 66.34
6- Andre Rogozine 60.82

2 men go to worlds

the jamierbelyea
Jan 22nd, 2012, 05:46 AM
I'm happy for Jessica Dube, but Sebastien has been woeful this entire season. Hopefully they can go clean at Worlds.

PhilePhile
Jan 22nd, 2012, 07:04 PM
Notice the one footed "sequence" across the length of the ice from 2:38 to 2:48.

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Daruma.
Jan 22nd, 2012, 07:19 PM
Notice the one footed "sequence" across the length of the ice from 2:38 to 2:48.

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I just LOVE how Lori's choreographies fullfil every criteria listed under the program components. He makes a perfect job of executing them. I never get how people think he's always overmarked. Why would a judge need to give him higher marks? I can't think of any reason. He's just on his own league.

dybbuk
Jan 22nd, 2012, 09:26 PM
So Chan apparently broke 300 for his total score. I cannot with you Canada. I know nationals always overscore their skaters, but you, Canadian Skating Association, are in a league of your own. I wonder if he'll break 400 next year.

delicatecutter
Jan 22nd, 2012, 10:30 PM
Patrick Chan Overscore. :hearts: That program had better be perfect.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Jan 22nd, 2012, 11:05 PM
Men's Result
1- Patrick Chan 302.14
2- Kevin Reynolds 239.44
3- Jeremy Ten 207.50
4- Elladj Balde 206.53
5- Andrei Rogozine 188.64
6- Liam Firus 187.78
7- Nam Nguyen 179.28

Chan skated amazingly in his free skate. For delicatecutter, he did double his 2nd triple axel but landed everything else including a 2nd quad.
Kevin Reynolds attempted 3 different quads but underrotated and two-footed his Quadruple Loop.

SkateCanada has said that they will not name the world team until after 4CC for the ladies since it was so close and because the standard wasn't very high. Only one woman will go to Nice.

PhilePhile
Jan 23rd, 2012, 01:47 AM
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edificio
Jan 23rd, 2012, 07:42 AM
u5xR2q0zkEc.. Vs. ..VfluAux0Sf0

Why are we comparing?

Thanks all for the links.

cowsonice
Jan 23rd, 2012, 08:09 AM
I just LOVE how Lori's choreographies fullfil every criteria listed under the program components. He makes a perfect job of executing them. I never get how people think he's always overmarked. Why would a judge need to give him higher marks? I can't think of any reason. He's just on his own league.

Yes, because Canada is a powerhouse for men's figure skating right now. This is equivalent to Andy Murray being in his own league for UK's tennis.

M2k
Jan 24th, 2012, 01:10 AM
Chantastic !


Patrick was rock solid for the most part (I think he doubled the toe on the quad combo and had a wonky landing on the double axel at the end ) I wish there would be a better highlight on that program of his. Apart from the jumps the first 2/3 of the program are rather emotionless. :rain: The spread eagle should have more of an impact but it just doesn't. Though I love the sparkle and rhinestones Patrick :p

FedererBulgaria
Jan 24th, 2012, 01:14 AM
i miss Albena Denkova and MAxim Staviski

M2k
Jan 24th, 2012, 01:16 AM
i miss Albena Denkova and MAxim Staviski

Is Maxim still in jail? Whatever bacame of them?

FedererBulgaria
Jan 24th, 2012, 01:40 AM
Is Maxim still in jail? Whatever bacame of them?

i think he was never in jail....

M2k
Jan 27th, 2012, 04:11 AM
WHEEEEEEEE! US Nationals are here!!! :worship:

Little Nathan Chen
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i think he was never in jail....
Didn't he get get convicted for killing someone while driving under the influence?

M2k
Jan 27th, 2012, 03:06 PM
OMg! Agnes skated lights out! She has such a monstrous Lutz! :eek:
I gotta give it to Caroline Zhang. Puberty did a number on her plus fixing that technic seemed like such a lost battle. She looks so different from three months ago. :eek: She sits in 4th after the short program.
Ashley looks so fit and speedy out there. Good for her!

(1st)Agnes Zawadzky
(2nd)Alissa Czisny
(3rd)Ashlet Wagner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYhpiqgOmHU
(4th)Caroline Zhang http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5WjkUWP_ZA
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5WjkUWP_ZA)

fifty-fifty
Jan 27th, 2012, 05:29 PM
Ladies Short Program - Final Result
European Championships SP

1. Carolina Kostner (ITA) - 63.22 (TES: 30.95, PCS: 32.27) Q
2. Kiira KORPI (FIN) - 61.80 (TES: 31.38, PCS: 30.42) Q
3. Ksenia MAKAROVA (RUS) - 57.55 (TES: 29.47, PCS: 28.08) Q
4. Elene GEDEVANISHVILI (GEO) - 57.14 (TES: 29.20, PCS: 27.94) Q
5. Viktoria HELGESSON (SWE) - 55.68 (TES: 29.42, PCS: 26.26) Q
6. Alena Leonova (RUS) - 54.50 (TES: 25.66, PCS: 28.84) Q
7. Valentina MARCHEI (ITA) - 53.52 (TES: 27.85, PCS: 25.67) Q
8. Yretha SILETE (FRA) - 52.75 (TES: 31.03, PCS: 21.72) Q
9. Joshi HELGESSON (SWE) - 52.32(TES: 28.87, PCS: 23.45) Q
10. Elena GLEBOVA (EST) - 52.32 (TES: 28.50, PCS: 23.82)