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the cat
Nov 14th, 2001, 08:43 PM
Maybe it's too soon to call her the real deal. But all signs are pointing to Maria having an outstanding career. Fourteen year old Maria Sharapova has won 3 of the 5 ITF 18u tournaments she has played. And in those 3 titles, she has wiped out the field with unbelievable scores! Maria has had a great start to her 18u career. She won her first tournament in the Czech Republic. In five matches, Maria lost an average of 3.8 games per match. Her second title was a Chanda Rubin tournament in California. Maria lost 16 games in 4 matches. Which is an average losing 4 games per match. Her third 18u title came at another Chanda Rubin tournament. This one was in South Carolina. In 5 matches, Maria lost a mere 17 games. Which averages losing only 3.4 games per match. Remember, I'm talking matches and not sets. These are schockingly lopsided scores and matches. It's even more impressive when you realize that the "Russian Lynx" has only recently started her 18u career. It's not like she 's 16 or 17 and posting these scores. Maria is a 5'8" 105 pound 14 year old Amazon (wink wink!), who is throwing her weight around, so to speak, and showing a killer instict I haven't seen before in a Russian female tennis player. Let's hope she can continue to develope and take her killer instinct to the WTA tour. Udachi Maria!

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NejedlyKanepi
Nov 14th, 2001, 10:39 PM
lets hope the fame wont go to her head, even anna has some sort of pride about not ever getting big headed to any extreme. but with the way maria pops off she may be as bad as the williams sisters ( nothing meant by this statement) and become so righteous and blah blah blah, im sure you kno what i mean. a very young talented and beautiful girl with all the attention she gets/ will be getting im afraid for her. <img src="graemlins/sad.gif" border="0" alt="[Sad]" />

but I must hope that she can further help the russian federation's tennis and everything and that she lives up to her expectations, because you dont want anyone to have to live with that failure in their face and yeah...

GO OLGA!!!!!!!! ( we all know youll kill maria in doubles <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> )

Martian KC
Nov 15th, 2001, 03:32 AM
Yes, it is a little bit too soon. Let's see her winning top junior titles and beating top ranked juniors before we say anything. <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> Go Maria!!! <img src="graemlins/kiss.gif" border="0" alt="[Kiss]" />

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 15th, 2001, 04:47 AM
winning Chanda Rubin events is a little early , those events are very small even on the junior scale.

Maria will get better and stronger , she has to play Eddie Herr and see how she fares there against some much better World ranked juniors.

I know she will cope.

Anna K won her only BIG junior event at 14, she won Orange Bowl in 1995.

the cat
Nov 15th, 2001, 03:22 PM
Eggy, don't compare Maria to Anna at 14. Anna was playing the 18's at 13. Because of the WTA's age restriction rule, there is no need to rush youngsters into playing the 18's. Hence, team Sharapova held her back from playing the 18's because of the WTA's well intended but misguided age restriction rule. That's why you'll never see a 12 year old junior girl like Martina Hingis, winning the junior French Open.

P.S. - The Pea, who is Dahveed, and why don't you like his signature?

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TheBoiledEgg
Nov 15th, 2001, 03:38 PM
Dahveed is one of the administators

and his signature is like Pea's same format but it says "How do you like my signature" ?

Comparing her was wrong but I don't wanna get carried away just yet.

Martian KC
Nov 15th, 2001, 05:28 PM
LOL, Dahveed is my nemesis! <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

Don't worry, Maria will have lots of time to kick everyone's butts! <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

NejedlyKanepi
Nov 16th, 2001, 05:33 AM
stupid age restrictions...

if you got it flaunt it!!!!

<br />olga puchkova has been competing in 18's since she was barely 13 and 1 or 2 months old <img src="graemlins/hearts.gif" border="0" alt="[Hearts]" />

i really care about comparing olga and maria....hmm.....

should i be happy for maria <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <br />or bitter and angry for my future wife olga who i love so much more! <img src="graemlins/firey.gif" border="0" alt="[Fiery]" /> <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> <img src="redface.gif" border="0">

unless of course olga and maria are friends....then i can only be <img src="redface.gif" border="0"> or jealous or osmething of marias single success. if maria breaks through in doubles as well i really will love-hate her. damn, why does she do this to me!

<br />olga you must improve, challenge tatiana and maria....for me <img src="graemlins/sad.gif" border="0" alt="[Sad]" /> ......

neorules
Nov 16th, 2001, 08:18 AM
We may soon find out aittle about Marias' ability. She is sceduled to play in a Exhibition in Denver at the end of the month against Bethanie Mattek as a lead in to the Seles Kournakova Main Match M.S fundraiser. Rumor has it that Seles-Mattek may take on Kournakova-Sharapova in dbls as well <img src="graemlins/bounce.gif" border="0" alt="[Bounce]" />

Martian KC
Nov 16th, 2001, 02:30 PM
Maria wants to play with Anna? <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

~SunFlower~
Nov 16th, 2001, 02:53 PM
Neorules, I would appreciate if you give us the source where you got the information about Maria playing in Biogen MS Tennis Classic? The website hasn't mentioned her name or Bethanie Mattek. <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

I don't believe anything what people including you post the information without any source. Why is it so hard for you not to post the information with the source.

Maria is expected to be playing in Eddie Herr tournament in the week of Nov 26. We will find out in about a week and see if she is in the draw.

I was thinking that if Maria isn't playing in Eddie Herr, she possibly plays in USTA 50K - W. Columbia in the same week as Eddie Herr but it can't be!

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the cat
Nov 16th, 2001, 03:03 PM
Thank you for your thoughts and your time. Your time is my time. And my time is your time!

P.S. - Neorules, you seem to know alot. Do you know if the Kournikova-Seles match is going to be on U.S. television? And as far as I know, Maria Sharapova doesn't play doubles. So I doubt that the Kournikova/Sharapova versus Seles/Mattek doubles match will take place. Although it would be great if it did.

P.S. - Sharky, you didn't respond to my thread, "is it too soon to say Maria Sharapova is the real deal"?

neorules
Nov 16th, 2001, 08:40 PM
I know there is an EXHIBITION for M.S. Fundraiser in Denver. Seles and Kournakova are headliners. I believe the format is 8 game pro sets. Last I knew the junior girls were Maria vs Bethanie. I know Bethanie has her tickets and lodging already. THe dbls. thing is rumor. It may be televised locally but that would probably be it. With tickets being $50-$250 a seat they most likely want you to show up and enjoy!

the cat
Nov 16th, 2001, 08:46 PM
Thanks Neo!

~SunFlower~
Nov 17th, 2001, 03:35 AM
Hey CatHat,

Yes, I do think it's too early to say that Maria is a big deal! But she is a big deal in my heart as always! <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

I very much believe that she will win a few WTA titles before she turns to 18. I just know it!

Looks like Maria tends to be playing in singles and no doubles like Steffi Graf. It would be nice if Maria plays in doubles but I am not worried. Singles are what I pay my attention the most!

~SunFlower~
Nov 17th, 2001, 03:41 AM
Neorules, I kindly asked you to give me a link to how you got the information about Maria playing in the exbihition but you didn't. Thanks to you. <img src="graemlins/firey.gif" border="0" alt="[Fiery]" /> <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

I finally found a way to get the source. Yes it's true that Maria will be there in Denver. That explains why Maria is not in the Girls 18s entry for the Eddie Herr tournament and won't be playing! They are in the same week. <img src="graemlins/sad.gif" border="0" alt="[Sad]" /> She better play in the Orange Bowl!

NejedlyKanepi
Nov 17th, 2001, 07:55 AM
i doubt theyll show an exhibition in america. theyd rather show "american football" or a stupid news program where all they do is talk about football.

<img src="graemlins/firey.gif" border="0" alt="[Fiery]" />

<br />but that would be really cool if they did, i dont see why they wouldnt show it: <br />theres kournikova, besdies the obvious...duh. <br />and seles: they like to show americans on tv and she has a good life story

but of course, im not getting my hopes up

ajayares
Nov 17th, 2001, 11:32 AM
TV Coverage..

- Fox Sports Net will televise the MS Tennis Classic at 7 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 29 at Magness Arena.

The feature match is Monica Seles versus Anna Kournikova

Now I don't know what time zone we are talking about, but as I don't live in the states, I will not be seeing it either way..

the cat
Nov 17th, 2001, 02:27 PM
Ajayares, thanks for the info. Sharky, the MS exhibition in Denver is on sunday November 25, right? So, she could be back in Florida that sunday night, or early monday morning. Maria might not be scheduled to play her opening round at the Eddie Herr tournament until tuesday. So, she could play in Denver on sunday, and then play her first round at the Eddie Herr on tuesday. Right? The Eddie Herr is played in Bradenton at Bollettieri's, where Maria trains and lives. She would have the home court advantage. So, it doesn't make any sense for her to skip the Eddie Herr 18u. Especially after she has won the Eddie Herr a couple of times already. What do you think of Maria's schedule, Sharky?

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tenn_ace
Nov 17th, 2001, 02:45 PM
It's a tough call... so many things can go wrong...

All I know is that Maria is a really nice girl with an excellent manners... I hope Masha will stay that way. And enjoy the game of tennis!!!!!!!!!!

the cat
Nov 17th, 2001, 03:44 PM
Tenn_ace, you're right. Alot can go wrong. Especially physically. But let's hope that doesn't happen with Maria. I don't even want to think that way.

P.S. - Tenn_ace, Maria is beautiful, nice and well mannered. I just hope she stops making comments about Anna Kournikova that come accross as knocking her. Such as in Rolling Stone and on HBO's "Real Sports". Maria is poised and mature at a very young age. She needs to learn what to say and more importantly, what not to say to the media.

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 17th, 2001, 04:04 PM
cat ..... Masha will learn how to handle the media , she will have to undergo the Player Development Program (PDP) , they will explain all.

Players under 18 are not allowed to give media requests/ engagements a total of NOT more than 4 hours of their time at any event.

tenn_ace
Nov 17th, 2001, 04:06 PM
the cat in the hat, what comments did she make? Did I miss something?

the cat
Nov 17th, 2001, 08:26 PM
Tenn_ace, I adore Maria. I was the first one to push Maria on the old Sanex WTA message board. So you know I care alot about Maria, as well as Anna. But Maria has said a couple of things about Anna that could be taken as knocking her. On HBO's "Real Sports", Maria said "she (Anna) hasn't won a tournament yet. That's not what I want". And then in Rolling Stone, Maria said something along the lines of, Anna hasn't won because things got "easier" for her. Alluding to Anna hasn't fulfilled her potential because she makes so much money. When it's been the injuries that have hurt Anna's developement the most. These two comments aren't earth shattering. But they are digs at Anna that I wish Maria didn't make. Even if what Maria says has some truth to it, it doesn't mean Maria should say it. It doesn't sound nice. Whether she meant to or not, on these two occasions Maria came off as knocking Anna. And that dissapointed me. I would usually think comments like those from Maria would upset Anna. But Maria is playing the MS exhibition in Denver, with Anna, Monica Seles and Bethanie Mattek. So, if Anna was upset with Maria, you can be sure Maria wouldn't be on the same ticket. My main point is, Anna has been kicked around and knocked alot over the past few years. I just don't want another one of my favorites, such as Maria the "Russian Lynx" Sharapova knocking Anna. Even if she is only kidding. It just doesn't sound right.

P.S. - Dinara Safina was once asked about being the next Anna Kournikova. She said she didn't want to be the next Kournikova, because "she hasn't won anything yet". That may be true. But to me, it just doesn't sound right. Are the Russian girls just so frank, that they speak their minds no matter what?

tenn_ace
Nov 18th, 2001, 02:17 PM
well, the cat in the hat, the first comment is perfectly normal. Ask anyone on the tour and they will answer the same. Of course, they'd prefer to be Monica and wins tournaments. Otherise why would they play tennis. Trust me, if Anna wins couplde tournaments these comments (which are basically true) will go away.

the second one is from seme publication that has nothing to do with tennis. Its purpose to entertain people, so I wouldn't be surprised if the words were taken out of context or something else.......

Masha IS really nice! I know, I had a chance to speak to her!

btw, don't forget she is still very yound and, I'm sure, if she says something derogatory of Anna, it probably comes from the adults around her... who, btw, could use Anna's example to motivate Masha (not a good thing, I agree)

the cat
Nov 18th, 2001, 07:26 PM
Tenn_ace, where did you speak to Masha? The 2001 U.S. Open? Just out of curiosity, did you speak to Maria in Russian or English? Maybe I shouldn't be too curious. Because curiosity allegedly killed the cat! That's an American saying, by the way.

P.S. - I wonder what the reaction will be towards Maria when she joins the WTA tour. There are alot of jealousies on the women's tennis tour. Maria is very young, very talented and very lovely. I suppose if she handles herself well, the other players will treat Maria okay. What do you think?

tenn_ace
Nov 18th, 2001, 11:35 PM
yeah I spoke to her after her first round match... It wasn't a very long conversation, but, considering, how many people were around, I found her very patient and nice. We started in Russian and then switched to English. It seemed that it was easier for both of us to speak English, especially about tennis (and about that fact that she was under USA in the draw)

neorules
Nov 19th, 2001, 04:22 AM
The exhibition is on Thursday Nov. 29, 6:00 P.M. Its good to hear Maria is playing and that its being telivised is also good news.

NejedlyKanepi
Nov 20th, 2001, 02:08 AM
i was so wrong about the tv thing, im over it

im sure anna does care what people think like maria, but shes over that too....because who wouldnt want to be the worlds #1 doubles player and a top 10 singles player.

my eye hurts and im not making sense. but im sure anna knows how some people feel and that maria probably really didnt meant it in such a rude way or anything.

im done for otnight, screw it all!

the cat
Sep 20th, 2002, 12:05 AM
When I first posed the question "Is it too soon to say Maria Sharapova is the real deal?" about 10 months ago, we really didn't know the answer. But now, after a fine first year of the 18's and doing well in challengers, I think it's safe to say Maria Sharapova is the real deal! :D

Udachi Maria! :bounce:

ys
Jul 18th, 2004, 04:42 AM
No, I think it is still too soon.. :lol:

goldenlox
Jul 18th, 2004, 04:51 AM
This is an interesting thread. I remember that HBO show.

the cat
Jul 18th, 2004, 05:32 PM
I guess I was right afterall. :) But it's Maria who has proven herself to be the real deal. Now the question is will Masha take her game to the next level on all surfaces besides grass? I think she will in time. But it will take time.

ys
Jul 18th, 2004, 05:34 PM
Now the question is will Masha take her game to the next level on all surfaces besides grass? I think she will in time. But it will take time.
Cautious cat.. That's unthinkable..:lol:

the cat
Jul 19th, 2004, 08:01 PM
I'm cautiously optimistic that Maria will reach her full potential as a tennis player. :)