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Sam L
Sep 17th, 2011, 01:44 AM
(Reuters) - Keira Knightley will speak with an English accent when she plays the classic Russian character of Anna Karenina, the actress said on Sunday at the Toronto Film Festival.


http://www.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20110911&t=2&i=499146289&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=2011-09-11T231017Z_01_BTRE78A1SDA00_RTROPTP_0_FILM-TORONTO


The British actress, who is at Toronto promoting her role in "A Dangerous Method" -- in which she also plays a Russian character -- told Reuters in an interview on Sunday that for her biggest role yet, in the upcoming "Anna Karenina," director Joe Wright and a cast including Jude Law had decided to speak with English rather than Russian accents.
"It's going to be an English accent. It's always very tricky when you are doing something that is meant to be in another language. Because you are like, what accent should it be, should you do that? Well, if you've got a Russian accent, why aren't you speaking Russian? It's an English-language film. So we have taken the decision that it's an English accent," she said.
The film, adapted from Leo Tolstoy's novel, considered one of the greatest of all time, will start shooting in a week's time. The cast already has completed three weeks of rehearsal, Knightley said.
"I've been reading the book now, for about two months, three months, poring through it, trying to pick pieces out of it, trying to figure it out. And then a couple of history books of that era in Russia (http://www.reuters.com/places/russia), which is fascinating," the 26-year-old actress said.
Knightley has received some praise for her turn in David Cronenberg's "A Dangerous Method" -- which premiered at Toronto on Saturday -- in which she plays Russian patient Sabina Spielrein, who comes between psychoanalysts Carl Jung and Sigmund Freud. In that film she does use a Russian accent.
But looking ahead, she said her mind was tuned to the late-19th-century Russian high society of "Anna Karenina," as she follows the likes of Greta Garbo in the title role.
"It's a big boy," she said about the role. "It's very challenging, it's very very exciting ... hopefully it will all come together."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/11/us-keiraknightley-idUSTRE78A3W520110911

Excellent decision. Imagine if the cast does whatever accent they think it should be like in Coppola's Marie Antoinette. It keeps it simple and allows the actors to concentrate on acting rather than accents. Can you think of any other films where they should not have adopted accents?

EDIT:

http://whatculture.com/film/first-look-keira-knightley-in-joe-wrights-anna-karenina.php

http://whatculture.com/film/first-look-keira-knightley-in-joe-wrights-anna-karenina.php/attachment/keiraknightley-annakarenina

Bayo
Sep 17th, 2011, 02:22 AM
I hate feigned accents. They're completely illogical.

I was just checking the IMDb page, and they have assembled SUCH a young cast for this film. I already had apprehensions about Keira in the title role. I picture Anna older and more womanly, not so waifish. More Garbo, I guess. And Vronksky is barely 20 years old?

Also, I don't see anyone listed as Levin. It's funny. I first read the novel when I was 16-17, and I found Levin and Kitty insufferably boring. But with each subsequent reading I've come to prefer his story to Anna's more and more. Do you know if this will be an Anna-centric adaptation?

Sam L
Sep 17th, 2011, 02:31 AM
I hate feigned accents. They're completely illogical.

I was just checking the IMDb page, and they have assembled SUCH a young cast for this film. I already had apprehensions about Keira in the title role. I picture Anna older and more womanly, not so waifish. More Garbo, I guess. And Vronksky is barely 20 years old?

Also, I don't see anyone listed as Levin. It's funny. I first read the novel when I was 16-17, and I found Levin and Kitty insufferably boring. But with each subsequent reading I've come to prefer his story to Anna's more and more. Do you know if this will be an Anna-centric adaptation?

I don't know. All I know is that Joe Wright is directing, Tom Stoppard is penning the script and the cast. My guess is it will be Anna-centric. I think Keira is fine for this role. Anna was supposed to have married very young. Although I agree about the waifish part, especially when she gets pregnant. But I think the key in an adaptation like this is the chemistry with Knightley and Johnson. It is essential and will either make or break the film. Levin is played by an actor that played one of the Weasley brothers in Harry Potter. Not Ron and not one of the twins. I've forgotten his name. Saoirse Ronan is Kitty. I think she will be great.

Dani12
Sep 17th, 2011, 02:46 AM
I like when they do accents, it makes it more authentic. If the actors are good enough they can pull it off..:shrug:

Sally Struthers
Sep 17th, 2011, 03:17 AM
I like when they do accents, it makes it more authentic. If the actors are good enough they can pull it off..:shrug:

what's authentic about someone speaking english with a faux Russian accent? If you really want to be authentic, you should speak Russian and have the movie subtitled but that would be a box office bomb

Dani12
Sep 17th, 2011, 03:27 AM
what's authentic about someone speaking english with a faux Russian accent? If you really want to be authentic, you should speak Russian and have the movie subtitled but that would be a box office bomb

Uhh it's more authentic then being a Russian with an English accent. :spit:

KournikovaFan91
Sep 17th, 2011, 05:04 AM
So yet again she will have an upper class British accent. This girl's talents see no bounds. :rolleyes:

Beat
Sep 17th, 2011, 07:24 AM
no wonder she goes back to a british accent after being laughed at for her russian accent in that croneneberg movie.

I hate feigned accents. They're completely illogical.


what's authentic about someone speaking english with a faux Russian accent? If you really want to be authentic, you should speak Russian and have the movie subtitled but that would be a box office bomb

this and this.

i recently saw the trailer for "the devil's double". dominic cooper plays the son of sadam hussein, uday hussein, and his double latif yahia. of course he speaks english - with an arab accent. :rolleyes: it makes no sense whatsoever.
the same applies to the cornenberg movie: c.g. jung was swiss, freud was austrian, spielrein was russian. i have no problem with british/international actors playing these characters, but just let them speak normal english, because the original characters didn't speak english (to each other) anyway, so why pretend they did?

Melange
Sep 17th, 2011, 09:24 AM
In that case, why spend so much on location shooting and period costumes? Film it in the sound stage and use regular clothing. The audience's imagination is what matters, let them pretend its all set in 19th century Russia. All the savings can go to paying the actors more.

Pops Maellard
Sep 17th, 2011, 09:25 AM
So yet again she will have an upper class British accent. This girl's talents see no bounds. :rolleyes:
:haha:

Halardfan
Sep 17th, 2011, 09:58 AM
Within in a film it's important to be consistent, if everyone is going to speak in their native accent, then fine.

But it's when you get a mish-mash that things get confusing, with some people attempting an accent and some not. What is worst is when an accent wanders during a film, e.g that recent Anne Hathaway movie or Russell Crowe's Robin Hood. Their accents wandered every corner of England!

As a group of actors I think British actors are pound for pound the best in the world. But weird casting lingers...for example Nazi's in American movies seem to be often played by Brits...

Beat
Sep 17th, 2011, 10:25 AM
In that case, why spend so much on location shooting and period costumes?

totally different thing, i don't think you got my point; c.g. jung & co. were wearing such clothes (if the costume designer did his/her job right) but they certainly didn't speak english with a german/russian accent.

Ferg
Sep 17th, 2011, 10:26 AM
I would have liked to see Saoirse's Russian accent...

miffedmax
Sep 17th, 2011, 01:23 PM
Didn't KK already play AK in a made-for-TV movie?

I think Ronan is one of the best young actors out there. Although as I've pointed out it's always creepy watching her because I swear to God she is my older son's female doppelganger. They really could pass for brother and sister.

Lena's bangs.

Sam L
Sep 17th, 2011, 03:20 PM
what's authentic about someone speaking english with a faux Russian accent? If you really want to be authentic, you should speak Russian and have the movie subtitled but that would be a box office bomb

They did make a Russian version back in the 60s. But that's a wider problem of foreign films not finding a market say in the States. That's another thing altogether. As an English filmmaker, Joe Wright should be able to adapt this to the big screen and using an English cast with English accents. I feel this is more genuine than trying to put on Russian accents.

Within in a film it's important to be consistent, if everyone is going to speak in their native accent, then fine.

But it's when you get a mish-mash that things get confusing, with some people attempting an accent and some not. What is worst is when an accent wanders during a film, e.g that recent Anne Hathaway movie or Russell Crowe's Robin Hood. Their accents wandered every corner of England!

As a group of actors I think British actors are pound for pound the best in the world. But weird casting lingers...for example Nazi's in American movies seem to be often played by Brits...

That is a really good point. They need to keep it consistent and I think this is a good decision.

Didn't KK already play AK in a made-for-TV movie?

I think Ronan is one of the best young actors out there. Although as I've pointed out it's always creepy watching her because I swear to God she is my older son's female doppelganger. They really could pass for brother and sister.

Lena's bangs.


No, that was Doctor Zhivago where she played Lara Antipova.

Sam L
Sep 17th, 2011, 03:23 PM
So yet again she will have an upper class British accent. This girl's talents see no bounds. :rolleyes:

It's not all about the accents. She's played a very wide range of roles throughout her career.

no wonder she goes back to a british accent after being laughed at for her russian accent in that croneneberg movie.

this and this.

i recently saw the trailer for "the devil's double". dominic cooper plays the son of sadam hussein, uday hussein, and his double latif yahia. of course he speaks english - with an arab accent. :rolleyes: it makes no sense whatsoever.
the same applies to the cornenberg movie: c.g. jung was swiss, freud was austrian, spielrein was russian. i have no problem with british/international actors playing these characters, but just let them speak normal english, because the original characters didn't speak english (to each other) anyway, so why pretend they did?

She wasn't laughed at. :rolleyes:

miffedmax
Sep 17th, 2011, 05:41 PM
No, that was Doctor Zhivago where she played Lara Antipova.

Thanks, you are correct.

Lena's bangs.

Barrie_Dude
Sep 17th, 2011, 05:50 PM
Its a movie based on a work of fiction. If you want authentic or realistic than you are looking in the wrong place

Specter
Sep 17th, 2011, 06:21 PM
I never understood that whole accent business. What's realistic about it? If the movie takes place in Russia and everyone speaks English, then we're to assume that English stands in for Russian, right? So why would they then have accents? Makes no sense and is offensive to people from that country, because let's face it, when people fake a foreign accent it's never perfect and always slightly offensive, at least. Leave fake accents to comedy and drop it from drama.

Imagine Romeo and Juliet with Italian accents. It would be absurd.

Sean.
Sep 17th, 2011, 06:24 PM
Oh man that's deprived viewers of a good few laughs. :ras:

At least I can still giggle at her chin-acting!

Barrie_Dude
Sep 17th, 2011, 06:32 PM
I never understood that whole accent business. What's realistic about it? If the movie takes place in Russia and everyone speaks English, then we're to assume that English stands in for Russian, right? So why would they then have accents? Makes no sense and is offensive to people from that country, because let's face it, when people fake a foreign accent it's never perfect and always slightly offensive, at least. Leave fake accents to comedy and drop it from drama.

Imagine Romeo and Juliet with Italian accents. It would be absurd.
Actually, I have seen a version of the Opera done in Italian........;)

Specter
Sep 17th, 2011, 06:39 PM
Actually, I have seen a version of the Opera done in Italian........;)

As long as they didn't have fake English accents. ;)

Barrie_Dude
Sep 17th, 2011, 07:20 PM
As long as they didn't have fake English accents. ;):lol: Not a chance!

gulzhan
Sep 17th, 2011, 08:18 PM
I can't imagine Knightley as Anna Karenina. She looks too young I think and to skinny :tape: Anna was super sexy ;)

Londoner
Sep 17th, 2011, 08:18 PM
I never understood that whole accent business. What's realistic about it? If the movie takes place in Russia and everyone speaks English, then we're to assume that English stands in for Russian, right? So why would they then have accents? Makes no sense and is offensive to people from that country, because let's face it, when people fake a foreign accent it's never perfect and always slightly offensive, at least. Leave fake accents to comedy and drop it from drama.

Imagine Romeo and Juliet with Italian accents. It would be absurd.

On the issue of accents, this.

Londoner
Sep 17th, 2011, 08:23 PM
KK as Anna Karenina? I guess most folk won't have seen other versions, but KK couldn't touch Julie Christie in Dr Zhivago and has pretty much been the same in every role. I guess it will be a very demure portrayal. But in think she's too young anyway, but of course actresses are getting younger and younger recently.

cowsonice
Sep 17th, 2011, 09:31 PM
I don't agree with casting KK as Anna Karenina, but I don't care.

As long as they do justice to the ice-skating scene of Levin and Kitty, I won't say anything :angel:

Melange
Sep 17th, 2011, 11:28 PM
KK as Anna Karenina? I guess most folk won't have seen other versions, but KK couldn't touch Julie Christie in Dr Zhivago and has pretty much been the same in every role. I guess it will be a very demure portrayal. But in think she's too young anyway, but of course actresses are getting younger and younger recently.

thats a brilliant way of saying it :haha: :worship:

Cajka
Sep 18th, 2011, 11:32 AM
I've never seen a Russian version, but I heard it's the best one. I saw two other versions, one with Vivian Leigh (not bad, but I wasn't impressed) + some awful version. For some reason, I guess it won't be a lot different this time.

McPie
Sep 18th, 2011, 12:13 PM
sut juarself, Kira ;)

just don't make it looks bad, that's all ;)

Sergius
Sep 18th, 2011, 12:17 PM
KK as Anna Karenina, Jude Law as Alexei Vronsky :hysteric: I guess, that's because of anathema having been implied on Leo, but he still did not deserve it :sobbing:
Seriously, I like Keira but first she spoilt Russian classic novel (the whole series were not good though), then she did the same with the British one, and now she is Anna Karenina :lol: Someone please stop her :lol:

Melange
Sep 18th, 2011, 12:26 PM
at least Jude Law can act

Bismarck.
Sep 18th, 2011, 12:27 PM
Oh good, Chinra gets to fuck up another film.

miffedmax
Sep 18th, 2011, 01:52 PM
I like KK. Then again, I liked the bebanged one, serve and all.

Bismarck.
Sep 18th, 2011, 02:52 PM
I like KK. Then again, I liked the bebanged one, serve and all.

She's an acquired taste, I think, but I've always had the impression that more people hate her rather than like her.

miffedmax
Sep 18th, 2011, 04:20 PM
I like her at lot, but even as a KK fan I do think she does better in lighter, more comic roles like "Bend It" and "Pirates" than in heavy dramatic roles. I mean honestly, she did get blown off the screen by Ronan in "Atonement." I expect it will happen again.

Although in fairness to KK, she's hardly the only performer who's going to lose that battle.

Lena's bangs.

Mistress of Evil
Sep 18th, 2011, 04:24 PM
Just from a physical point of view, I ain't sure she is suitable for Anna Karenina, at all.

Roookie
Sep 18th, 2011, 04:38 PM
She is really stuck with this period piece movies :yawn:

Sam L
Feb 1st, 2012, 10:34 AM
First look:

http://whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/keiraknightley-annakarenina.jpg

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

http://whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/anna-karennina-set.jpg

http://whatculture.com/film/first-look-keira-knightley-in-joe-wrights-anna-karenina.php

Cajka
Feb 1st, 2012, 11:30 AM
Those pics are OK. :shrug:

Beat
Feb 1st, 2012, 12:08 PM
so, sam, what happened to that oscar you promised keira? ;)

Sam L
Feb 2nd, 2012, 10:03 AM
so, sam, what happened to that oscar you promised keira? ;)
I didn't say this year. :p She's a Best Actress nominee at 20, current No. 1 British actress and future dame. Oscar is written on the wall. ;)

debopero
Feb 2nd, 2012, 04:43 PM
I didn't say this year. :p She's a Best Actress nominee at 20, current No. 1 British actress and future dame. Oscar is written on the wall. ;)

Kate Winslet? Carey Mulligan? Tilda Swinton? ...:p :lol: .

Sam L
Feb 3rd, 2012, 09:44 AM
Kate Winslet? Carey Mulligan? Tilda Swinton? ...:p :lol: .
You are judging them by talent which is subjective. Keira is the highest paid non American actress and a major box office draw thanks to Pirates and other successful movies. And when talking Oscars, resumes like that count.

But enough of this sidetracking, this is about Anna Karenina.

Sam L
Feb 25th, 2012, 01:31 PM
More pictures:

http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img4/AnnaKareninaFLphotosfullwsave01.jpg

http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img4/AnnaKareninaFLphotosfullwsave02.jpg

http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img4/AnnaKareninaFLphotosfullwsave03.jpg

http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img4/AnnaKareninaFLphotosfullwsave04.jpg

:hearts:

ys
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:22 PM
Kira Nightley going under the train would look tragic and sexy.

Valanga
Apr 18th, 2012, 04:27 PM
I am reading the book at the moment (halfway through part 2, hell this book is THICK)
I cannot imagine Aaron Johnson being Count Vronsky. I. CANNOT.

Richie's
Apr 18th, 2012, 05:53 PM
I can see the Oscar nomination coming!

Beat
Apr 18th, 2012, 08:32 PM
KK as Anna Karenina, Jude Law as Alexei Vronsky :hysteric: I

jude law plays alexei karenin, aaron johnson plays count vronsky. but much more exciting than any of this is the fact that emily watson and olivia williams are in it.

shap_half
Apr 18th, 2012, 09:15 PM
She is so basic to me! Ugh!

Sam L
Apr 20th, 2012, 01:01 PM
I am reading the book at the moment (halfway through part 2, hell this book is THICK)
I cannot imagine Aaron Johnson being Count Vronsky. I. CANNOT.

If I really like what I'm reading it doesn't feel long at all. Everyone says it's a long novel but I flew through it. I didn't think it was even long. But then it's like my favourite novel.

I haven't really seen Aaron Johnson in anything so I'm hesitant but at the end of the day, this is going to come down to the chemistry between him and Keira on the screen. That will either make or break the film.

Sam L
May 12th, 2012, 02:29 PM
I missed these before.

I can see the Oscar nomination coming!

Yes! I can feel it too.

She is so basic to me! Ugh!

Why? What's wrong? :sad:

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/keira-knightley-anna-karenina-image-600x421.jpg

Apparently this is a new image in news but I've seen it before.

Sammo
May 12th, 2012, 03:15 PM
This is gonna be the most boring movie ever made.

Valanga
May 12th, 2012, 03:19 PM
If I really like what I'm reading it doesn't feel long at all. Everyone says it's a long novel but I flew through it. I didn't think it was even long. But then it's like my favourite novel.

I haven't really seen Aaron Johnson in anything so I'm hesitant but at the end of the day, this is going to come down to the chemistry between him and Keira on the screen. That will either make or break the film.

Finished the book last Sunday. I somehow think Levin's part is way too long. A good read but my version is so bad (Constance Garnett's)

Sam L
May 12th, 2012, 03:33 PM
This is gonna be the most boring movie ever made.

:lol:

Finished the book last Sunday. I somehow think Levin's part is way too long. A good read but my version is so bad (Constance Garnett's)

I thought the same but I think it was more because I loved the parts with Anna a lot more. His parts were more philosophical/religious. I have and read the Penguin Pevear and Volokhonsky translation which I thought was pretty good.

Valanga
May 12th, 2012, 04:49 PM
I have and read the Penguin Pevear and Volokhonsky translation which I thought was pretty good.

From the reviews I read on the Internet, your version is better. Thought of buying this version but it's kinda silly to have two.

And I try my best to sympathise Anna, but somehow I cannot.

Sgt.Timmykinz
Jun 20th, 2012, 07:30 PM
The trailer:

http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-trailers/?videoId=de538e25-c9ea-4337-b191-c664ebb06875&from=mpl_en-us_Entertainment_Movies_Trailers&src=v5:share:sharepermalink:#/video/68b61aa3-f69e-402a-9fd8-56b4c262cfb9/

ptkten
Jun 20th, 2012, 08:05 PM
I haven't been a big fan of Joe Wright's previous movies but I did really like the trailer though so hopefully it works. I think it's either going to be great or a big flop.

Sgt.Timmykinz
Jun 20th, 2012, 08:13 PM
http://cdni.condenast.co.uk/592x888/a_c/annakarenina_gl_20jun12_pr_b_592x888.jpg

_marial_
Jun 20th, 2012, 08:26 PM
Sorry, but this movie looks awful and boring :lol:

edificio
Jun 20th, 2012, 08:44 PM
They need to recast this thing. :eek: That guy is no Count Vronsky. Also, the trailer shows too much.

Sorry, but this movie looks awful and boring :lol:

You forgot cheesy. :tape:

cowsonice
Jun 21st, 2012, 01:27 AM
Finished the book last Sunday. I somehow think Levin's part is way too long. A good read but my version is so bad (Constance Garnett's)

:awww:
I read only that version too. I didn't think it was too bad, maybe a little stale but it did the job.

Mixal
Jun 21st, 2012, 11:22 PM
As much as I love Keira, I think they should've picked another actress. The same goes with the rest of the (main) cast.

Anyway, I have a feeling this will be a major disappointment overall.

Valanga
Jun 22nd, 2012, 03:26 PM
Count Vronsky :tape:

Levin looks much scruffier than I've imagined

fantic
Jun 23rd, 2012, 05:52 PM
Just came in and read the whole thread.

jude law plays alexei karenin, aaron johnson plays count vronsky. but much more exciting than any of this is the fact that emily watson and olivia williams are in it.

This.

And of course, Saoirse Ronan. (What kind of name is that by the way, Irish? Saoirse? How do you pronounce it? :lol: Just checked IMDB and she's not on the movie list)

Olórin
Jun 23rd, 2012, 06:00 PM
After watching the trailer I don't think it will be even close to living up to the greatness of the book. But it should still be an entertaining watch.

wild.river
Jun 23rd, 2012, 10:51 PM
Just came in and read the whole thread.



This.

And of course, Saoirse Ronan. (What kind of name is that by the way, Irish? Saoirse? How do you pronounce it? :lol: Just checked IMDB and she's not on the movie list)

http://inogolo.com/pronunciation/Saoirse

seersha! :D

Andy.
Jun 23rd, 2012, 11:54 PM
What a suprise Keira doing another 'period' film :yawn:

Sam L
Jul 30th, 2012, 12:31 PM
Actress Gives Her Best Performance Yet in Period Drama

Keira Knightley (http://www.theimproper.com/film/5141/keira-knightley-sultry-sweeping-beautiful-anna-karenina-watch) is the queen of period movies and she gives what could be the best performance of her career in her new movie “Anna Karenina,” according to a new extended trailer.
Knightley, 27, practically lives in the 19th Century on screen. Her performance in the Tolstoy classic is passionate and breathtaking. Is there an Oscar in her future, or at least a British equivalent, the BAFTA?
The Russian novel, scandalous for its time, has been made into films seven times before, going back to 1915. Silent film actress Betty Nansen first brought Anna alive on the silver screen. The most acclaimed version, released in 1935, stars Greta Garbo, Fredric March, Basil Rathbone and Maureen O’Sullivan.
Knightley will also have backing from a solid cast. Alicia Vikander plays Kitty, Jude Law (http://www.theimproper.com/film/5141/keira-knightley-sultry-sweeping-beautiful-anna-karenina-watch) plays spurned husband Alexei Karenin, Aaron Johnson is Count Vronsky and Matthew Macfadyen plays Oblonsky, Anna’s brother.
Anna is an aristocrat and socialite in a lifeless marriage who has a scandalous affair with the wealthy and dashing Count Vronsky. It ultimately ends tragically.
The clip, which runs for about five minutes, opens with Knightley as Anna at a lavish ball. She’s pursued relentlessly by the count while the room is atwitter with gossip. Her husband, the older, dignified Alexei shows up to take her home and she casually blows him off.
Alexei leaves without a fight and the hot-blooded Vronsky continues his quest, threatening to leave for a distant posting, unless Anna tells him not to. She seems to want to be rid of him at first, but gives in to her desires and begs him not to go.
Her other period dramas include 2005′s “Pride & Prejudice,” “Atonement” and “Silk” in 2007, “The Duchess” in 2008 and “A Dangerous Method” last year. She’s been nominated for an Oscar and Golden Globe as best actress for “Pride & Prejudice” and has also been nominated for a BAFTA.



http://www.theimproper.com/film/5307/keira-knightleys-sultry-anna-karenina-extended-trailer

AliceMariaRenka
Jul 30th, 2012, 01:41 PM
So yet again she will have an upper class British accent. This girl's talents see no bounds. :rolleyes:

How do you want her to speak? Anna Karenina was upper class! It's an English speaking film! There are Russian versions if you prefer.

AliceMariaRenka
Jul 30th, 2012, 01:42 PM
After watching the trailer I don't think it will be even close to living up to the greatness of the book. But it should still be an entertaining watch.

Agree. Though I doubt many people these days could read the book!

Sam L
Jul 31st, 2012, 12:23 PM
http://www.focusfeatures.com/video/anna_karenina__a_bold_new_vision_of_the_epic_story _of_love

It is a groundbreaking film in the period piece genre. And of course, it's not going be as great as the novel. Novels and films are two completely different artistic mediums. Film is a visual art and should tell a story from the actions and connections in events.

Richie's
Jul 31st, 2012, 08:49 PM
I expect to watch this movie!

Talula
Aug 1st, 2012, 08:52 AM
Agree. Though I doubt many people these days could read the book!

:lol: I tried a few years ago, but just couldn't wade through it! The characters' multiple names did me in before I got a quarter way through it. And like many books from many years ago deemed great works, it is really slow.

I just wonder: how relevant today is a story of a woman having an affair? I mean come on, most women wouldn't fling themselves in front of a train these days! Anna and her lover would be just emailing each other and meeting up in lunchtimes/after work for a bit of passion!

Talula
Aug 1st, 2012, 08:55 AM
http://www.focusfeatures.com/video/anna_karenina__a_bold_new_vision_of_the_epic_story _of_love

It is a groundbreaking film in the period piece genre. And of course, it's not going be as great as the novel. Novels and films are two completely different artistic mediums. Film is a visual art and should tell a story from the actions and connections in events.

Agree. A piece of cinema has to hold the audience, and it has to be relevant to the audience. If it was as long and tortuous as the book no one would go and see it! Only a few years ago the remake of Dr Zhivago (with Keira in the Julie Christie role) flopped on TV - not many younger audiences can relate to what used to be scandalous/provoking/moving. Times change.

fantic
Aug 1st, 2012, 02:34 PM
:lol: I tried a few years ago, but just couldn't wade through it! The characters' multiple names did me in before I got a quarter way through it. And like many books from many years ago deemed great works, it is really slow.

I just wonder: how relevant today is a story of a woman having an affair? I mean come on, most women wouldn't fling themselves in front of a train these days! Anna and her lover would be just emailing each other and meeting up in lunchtimes/after work for a bit of passion!

:lol:

Even THEN, Russian liberals were flabbergasted at the theme, they naturally attacked Tolstoy for that :lol:

Sam L
Aug 3rd, 2012, 01:35 PM
:lol: I tried a few years ago, but just couldn't wade through it! The characters' multiple names did me in before I got a quarter way through it. And like many books from many years ago deemed great works, it is really slow.

I just wonder: how relevant today is a story of a woman having an affair? I mean come on, most women wouldn't fling themselves in front of a train these days! Anna and her lover would be just emailing each other and meeting up in lunchtimes/after work for a bit of passion!

It's not shocking these days but the main theme of this story is love. That's why the story remains relevant and it is timeless. Yes, an affair these days will not have the same consequences but what is considered shocking to any society will still have the same characters.

Valanga
Aug 3rd, 2012, 04:26 PM
I really think Levin and Kitty's part will be totally omitted :lol:

Sam L
Aug 4th, 2012, 04:39 AM
I really think Levin and Kitty's part will be totally omitted :lol:

It will not be but their story might take on a minor role than in the novel.

Thanos
Aug 4th, 2012, 04:51 AM
if keira put on 20 kilos i would definitely eat her snatch.

Sam L
Aug 15th, 2012, 12:41 PM
Some new stills:

http://d1oi7t5trwfj5d.cloudfront.net/76/125e30dfb711e1baf122000a1d0930/file/knightley-anna-karenina1.JPG

I love this.

http://d1oi7t5trwfj5d.cloudfront.net/58/39ae90dfb711e1baf122000a1d0930/file/knightley-anna-karenina.JPG

http://d1oi7t5trwfj5d.cloudfront.net/0f/54fcb0dfb811e1baf122000a1d0930/file/knightley-karenina.JPG

http://d1oi7t5trwfj5d.cloudfront.net/29/bc48c0dfb711e1baf122000a1d0930/file/anna-karenina-wright.JPG

http://d1oi7t5trwfj5d.cloudfront.net/cb/7fb8e0dfb711e1baf122000a1d0930/file/johnson-knightley-karenina.JPG

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/new-images-from-joe-wrights-anna-karenina-starring-keira-knightley-aaron-johnson-more-20120806?page=1#blogPostHeaderPanel

Olórin
Aug 15th, 2012, 01:08 PM
Agree. A piece of cinema has to hold the audience, and it has to be relevant to the audience. If it was as long and tortuous as the book no one would go and see it! Only a few years ago the remake of Dr Zhivago (with Keira in the Julie Christie role) flopped on TV - not many younger audiences can relate to what used to be scandalous/provoking/moving. Times change.

Tortuous :lol: It is hardly Tolstoy's fault as an author that people's minds have regressed to the point they don't have an attention span longer than a 2 hour film these days.

If younger audiences can't relate to what makes the novel great then they are not intelligent because there are many timeless themes in the novel. More than anything it is a novel about human relationships and the interactions of our relationships with society at large. Society and relationships change but the desires to love, create relationships that are accepted within the broader framework of society remain. The intense juxtaposition of our innermost feelings and hopes with our public persona is something everyone has to confront at some point and this is something I felt Tolstoy excelled at expositing in the novel - hopefully they can also do this well in the film.

Brena
Aug 15th, 2012, 01:34 PM
One thing I'm sure of is that the Anna Karenina of Tolstoy's imagination most definitely didn't look anything like Kiera Knightly.
If I remember correctly, she's described as a plump and lively woman with beautiful, soft mustache and not like a boyish, anorexic, lifeless bore (without any mustache whatsoever! :( )

edificio
Aug 15th, 2012, 05:44 PM
:lol: I tried a few years ago, but just couldn't wade through it! The characters' multiple names did me in before I got a quarter way through it. And like many books from many years ago deemed great works, it is really slow.

I just wonder: how relevant today is a story of a woman having an affair? I mean come on, most women wouldn't fling themselves in front of a train these days! Anna and her lover would be just emailing each other and meeting up in lunchtimes/after work for a bit of passion!

It's a great book, and I found it a page-turner. But you know not all books are for everyone. There were many times in the book when I got mad at the author. :tape: The story remains relevant, even if affairs are more common. People have been known to shoot their exes' new lovers, so...hardly irrelevant. Probably fewer women throw themselves in front of trains. Something to be thankful for. Women have given up their children for love, though. Today's society would probably be somewhat less inclined to ostracize such a woman, but not all societies. Anyway, I think it is a great book, and maybe you should try reading it again later in life. Some books are better the second time of trying. Anyway, this book remains a classic because of the relevance of its themes.

Sam L
Aug 16th, 2012, 09:38 AM
One thing I'm sure of is that the Anna Karenina of Tolstoy's imagination most definitely didn't look anything like Kiera Knightly.
If I remember correctly, she's described as a plump and lively woman with beautiful, soft mustache and not like a boyish, anorexic, lifeless bore (without any mustache whatsoever! :( )

If that's what you're worried about the most, I'm afraid you don't understand the film medium. Film isn't a documentary. We're not watching this feeling and thinking that this is how it looked. It's an interpretation.

You are never going to get the look of the 19th century or other historical periods. And even if we do, we might not like it. It's about getting the story right, not the look.

Sam L
Sep 1st, 2012, 05:51 AM
Love or loathe?



The cynics may sneer at Keira Knightley in her latest, challenging role as Anna Karenina, but this much-maligned actor is far more accomplished than her many detractors believe, writes EILEEN BATTERSBY
WHY DO SO MANY dislike Keira Knightley? Is it her jaw? Her alleged pout? Her thinness? The cut glass Englishness that she can conjure at will? That defiant fragility? Her tidy alliteration? Her success? Her good looks?
Next week sees the release of Joe Wright’s film version of Tolstoy’s Anna Karenina with Knightley playing its self-destructive central character. Cynics are already engaging in Keira-bashing. But why shouldn’t this much-maligned actor play her? Still only 27, she has already established that she can play unhappy, romantically susceptible naïve idealists of limited vision. Her performance in Saul Dibb’s lavish period drama The Duchess (2008) was very good and ultimately moving. Knightley, little more than 22 during shoot, more than held her own in the face of a superlative Ralph Fiennes as her monosyllabic husband. Fiennes was the best thing in it, yet Knightley dominated her scenes.
She is naturally photogenic and can morph from wan teenager to femme fatale in the space of a couple of frames. Her exotic beauty, most specifically her eyes, more yearling than femme fatale, guarantees her screen presence. But she is also emotionally responsive and conveys an edgy, rather neurotic intensity that is convincingly balanced by vulnerability. Maybe it’s the mother in me, and/or the horse owner, but in a world of injustices, Knightley, an intelligent, committed actor, is consistently underestimated. True period costumes suit her and, as mostly everyone discovers, the skinny girls who are waiflike in swimsuits tend to look great in clothes. Too many articles about her focus on her tiny body. As long ago as Gilles MacKinnon’s harrowing Pure (2002) the 17-year-old Knightley, playing a pregnant teenage heroin addict, was riveting.
She is far superior to, say, Scarlett Johansson and is far less annoying than Anne Hathaway. One Day might have been a bit more compelling had Knightley been cast instead of Hathaway.
If Knightley, a dyslexic, were to put on weight the famous jaw or at least its tautness, would disappear. Would her detractors then begin reflecting on her CV? She may well be slightly too young to play Anna Karenina, but as Elizabeth Bennet in Joe Wright’s Pride and Prejudice in 2005, she was close enough in age to Austen’s creation.
Mere weeks younger than Knightley, is the deeply irritating “I’m-always-just-about-to-burst- into-tears” Carey Mulligan who, coincidentally, made her movie debut as Kitty Bennet in that same film. Wright’s Pride and Prejudice daringly took on the 1995 BBC version featuring the glorious Darcyesque perfection of Colin Firth, and placed the hugely appealing Matthew MacFadyen who gazed, slightly bewilderingly, at the fury of Knightley’s Lizzie in the proposal scene set in the rain. Here again, one should admit that Knightley’s feisty, instinctive – albeit modern – and very stubborn Elizabeth Bennet was good enough to secure an Oscar nomination, losing out to Reese Witherspoon. No investigative energy was needed to suggest that Wright had found a muse. Knightley was predictably cast in Wright’s 2007 screen adaptation of Ian McEwan’s Atonement. Again, it is unfair not to concede that Knightley certainly articulated Cecilia’s resentment at her younger sister’s life-destroying lie.
When Kazuo Ishiguro’s prophetic novel Never Let Me Go (2005) made it to the screen in 2010 with mixed results, Mulligan, in the narrator’s role, was considered the lead although Knightley’s Ruth imposed herself on every scene she appeared in.
We know it all began in Gurinder Chanda’s Bend it Like Beckham (2002) with Keira as Juliette, the second lead doughty tomboy footballer – remember she was 17 – and she was the pretty love object in Richard Curtis’s Love Actually (2002) in which just about every living British actor took part. But few fully noticed her until she was rescued by Cap’n Jack Sparrow in the 2003 first and by far the best of The Pirates of the Caribbean high-seas spoofs.
Knightley, still a teenager, was Elizabeth Swann, the suitably lovely, reluctantly corseted daughter of the widower Governor played by Jonathan Pryce. Her part, at least initially, required little more than looking beautiful. As the sequels trudged on, a sense of humour was needed and Knightley confirmed she had that. She also showed that she had the wit to abandon ship after the third one. Most bizarrely of all, in the early scenes she and Johnny Depp achieved an unlikely spark of erotic frisson – you need to be alert, or you might miss it.
In John Maybury’s The Edge of Love (2008), written by her playwright mother, Knightley again played a noble slave to love, this time in the unruly form of Dylan Thomas.
But by far the biggest professional risk she has taken to date was her role as Sabina Spielrein in David Croenberg’s A Dangerous Method (2011). For the first part of the film she is a screaming madwoman, it is difficult to watch her grotesque mannerisms complete with tics but she grows on the viewer just as her character appears to engage her doctor, Jung. They become lovers: she is passionate, he is clinical. The real-life Spielrein evolved from damaged young woman to pioneering female psychoanalyst. She was later murdered by the Nazis.
Wright’s Anna Karenina opens next week. Of course there will be snipes about her fabulous costumes and the jaw. No doubt the casting of MacFadyen as the erring but lovable Oblonsky and the always underrated former pretty boy Jude Law will attract the most critical approval.
But Knightley will acquit herself well. In time, should there ever be a remake of Brief Encounter, a mature Knightley would be an inspired choice. She could also convince as both the early and later Julia in Brideshead Revisited. In the event of a new Doctor Zhivago she would be a likely Lara.
Exactly how good is Keira Knightley? Far better than her detractors are prepared to admit.


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/magazine/2012/0901/1224323326221.html

Talula
Sep 2nd, 2012, 03:24 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/magazine/2012/0901/1224323326221.html

Thank you.

I actually love Keira and have enjoyed everyone of her films and performances. I think a lot of Keira bashing is down to the dumbing down that has taken place in society along with the growth in reverse snobbery: she's simply not Chav enough for many people today. People seem to relate more to the tattooed slag Chavs that pass for 'stars' that they see on TV.

Mixal
Sep 2nd, 2012, 04:04 PM
I love Keira, but the author is such retard. Why is he even bringing other actresses in discussion? And what's worse, he uses the most cliche things to bring them down :lol:

Yes, annoying is such constructive criticism :rolleyes:

Valanga
Sep 2nd, 2012, 04:09 PM
I just can't with this Count Vronsky

Sam L
Sep 12th, 2012, 08:52 AM
Keira Knightley Singled out for Brave Performance in Anna Karenina (http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2012/09/11/keira-knightley-singled-out-for-brave-performance-in-karenina/)




TIME mag just wrote a rave review for Keira Knightley in Anna Karenina. Knightley has been quietly challenging the roles she seemed destined to play with last year’s A Dangerous Method and now, with Anna Karenina. Richard Corliss writes (http://entertainment.time.com/2012/09/09/anna-karenina-keira-knightley-takes-center-stage-in-bold-nervy-adaptation/#ixzz26AmZKA43) of Knightley:
The novel has been filmed at least two dozen times, including silent and sound-movie versions, in 1927 and 1935, with Greta Garbo, and a 1948 film with Vivien Leigh. Two of the most incandescent stars of Hollywood’s Golden Age would be tough competition for Knightley, if she were playing the same kind of Anna. But guided by Wright, her director for Pride and Prejudice and Atonement, Knightley embodies Anna as a girlish woman who has never felt erotic love; once smitten, she is raised to heavenly ecstasy before tumbling into the abyss of shame. It’s a nervy performance, acutely attuned to the volcanic changes a naive creature must enjoy and endure on her first leap into mad passion. She helps make Anna Karenina an operatic romance worth singing about.
Philip French writes (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/sep/09/anna-karenina-review-philip-french):
Still, Knightley’s Anna has the right combination of passion, confusion, cruelty and near madness, and there’s a brilliant moment (which comes out of the novel) where she reveals her physical revulsion for her husband by angrily criticising his irritating habit of cracking his knuckles.
But there is no getting around the fact that the film’s reception will be mixed. It appears as though Joe Wright turned and did something no one expected him to do – he filmed the Anna Karenina no one expected him to make. Did you all just think Anna Karenina would be kind of by-the-numbers Wright and Knightley? But the critics instead seemed half-baffled by it. It is perhaps one of those films you either go with or you don’t. Unfortunately, it is one of the few Big Oscar Movies with a plot that revolves around a female character. In fact, it might be the ONLY one. I’m rooting for it but haven’t yet seen it.



The Oscar race is on! Will this land Keira an Oscar?

Sgt.Timmykinz
Sep 12th, 2012, 01:23 PM
Thank you.

I actually love Keira and have enjoyed everyone of her films and performances. I think a lot of Keira bashing is down to the dumbing down that has taken place in society along with the growth in reverse snobbery: she's simply not Chav enough for many people today. People seem to relate more to the tattooed slag Chavs that pass for 'stars' that they see on TV.

The funny thing with Keira is she's labelled as posh and criticized for it but actually her parents weren't rich and she went to her local comprehensive school. In a rational society she would be held up as the ideal role model for girls but instead its the likes of Cheryl Cole, while Keira instead is constantly attacked.

Sam L
Sep 26th, 2012, 11:32 AM
The funny thing with Keira is she's labelled as posh and criticized for it but actually her parents weren't rich and she went to her local comprehensive school. In a rational society she would be held up as the ideal role model for girls but instead its the likes of Cheryl Cole, while Keira instead is constantly attacked.
Very true. She is very modest and down to earth too and most importantly very talented.

Olórin
Sep 26th, 2012, 11:38 AM
Well I enjoyed the film, it was a good solid effort from all involved. But to me it didn't really live up to the legacy of the book: point being the book is in my all-time top 10 the film probably not in my top 50 films.

Sam L
Sep 26th, 2012, 11:39 AM
Well I enjoyed the film, it was a good solid effort from all involved. But to me it didn't really live up to the legacy of the book: point being the book is in my all-time top 10 the film probably not in my top 50 films.
What did you about Keira's performance?

Olórin
Sep 26th, 2012, 11:45 AM
What did you about Keira's performance?

Keira didn't quite convey the gravitas of the public-persona Tolstoy presented in the book, especially in the first half of the plot (but then perhaps she wasn't allowed to due to the condensed plot with limited set pieces?). Also the woman doesn't seem to have aged in 10 years, I thought she looked a little young but she was brilliant on the whole.

Londoner
Sep 26th, 2012, 09:18 PM
Saw this film at the weekend at our local Everyman.

You will love it or not like it. I thought it was filmed in a similar way to Moulin Rouge and the last Marie Antoinette film (which i loathed), and lacked gravitas and atmosphere. The repeated references to life being lived on a stage became tiresome - I got the message at the beginning. Some of the actors didn't connect with the period or themes of the novel, a few did but they were swamped by the overall execution of the film. I understand the need to relate a film to a younger modern audience, but some of it didn't work for me. Keira was too young for the role and, (and yes I know they are from a different era) just can't compete with Leigh or Garbo. Keira did not make me feel any sympathy for Anna, and it's a real test for an actress to make the audience sympathetic to a woman who can otherwise appear simply neurotic and selfish. Garbo and Leigh of course benefitted from a more straightforward and atmospheric production. This just tried too hard, was too flashy - maybe a modern film can't do the novel justice and should be a TV dramatisation over a number of episodes. Or maybe they just can't make them like they used to!

You may love this version and think I'm being too harsh - but my 2 friends were even harsher deeming it a travesty and a destruction of a monumental classic.

Sam L
Sep 27th, 2012, 11:26 AM
Keira did not make me feel any sympathy for Anna, and it's a real test for an actress to make the audience sympathetic to a woman who can otherwise appear simply neurotic and selfish.

I think that was deliberate. I remember reading about this. The Garbo and Leigh versions made Anna a very sympathetic figure. I think they wanted to portray her as she was rather than a sympathetic tragic heroine.

fantic
Oct 30th, 2012, 04:26 AM
At last attacking Anna Karenina (Maude tr.)

Now I understanding everybody complaining about Keira as Anna.

Ch 18, Part 1; "her rather full figure"

:lol: Is Chrisitina Hendricks too full? :oh: Umm, the novel says she's not that pretty, so..maybe Julianne Moore in her younger days?

Beat
Oct 31st, 2012, 09:01 AM
At last attacking Anna Karenina (Maude tr.)

Now I understanding everybody complaining about Keira as Anna.

Ch 18, Part 1; "her rather full figure"

:lol: Is Chrisitina Hendricks too full? :oh: Umm, the novel says she's not that pretty, so..maybe Julianne Moore in her younger days?

WTF? :armed: julianne was one of the most beautiful women ever. and still is!

fantic
Oct 31st, 2012, 04:17 PM
:lol: sorry? :oh:

One word to describe Anna should be 'vivacious' imo. Keira doesn't quite fit with that description methink :lol:

Sam L
Nov 8th, 2012, 11:09 AM
At last attacking Anna Karenina (Maude tr.)

Now I understanding everybody complaining about Keira as Anna.

Ch 18, Part 1; "her rather full figure"

:lol: Is Chrisitina Hendricks too full? :oh: Umm, the novel says she's not that pretty, so..maybe Julianne Moore in her younger days?

The problem is that our ideas about what makes a woman beautiful have changed over the centuries.

Film is a visual art. It's an interpretation of another medium in the visual form. And a 21st century visual interpretation at that.

What the filmmakers get right with casting Keira and from the reviews of Keira's performance is that she embodies the psychological vulnerability and the worldliness and charm of the character. That imo is more important than the physical correctness.

This isn't a biopic. People in the 21st century don't look like people in the 19th century. I don't see why we should try to look like them. It's about capturing the spirit.

Valanga
Jan 15th, 2013, 01:52 PM
The film is FINALLY shown in HK and I saw it this evening. I just can't with Count Vronsky I am afraid :help: and some dialogues are pretty bad (Particularly the picnic scene :help:) The mise-en-scene isn't that bad as I imagined (yeah, still a bit over the top but at least it is MUCH smoother than I expected)

I am not sure if those audiences who haven't read the book would understand the film though.

Beat
Jan 15th, 2013, 04:01 PM
You are judging them by talent which is subjective. Keira is the highest paid non American actress

this is not true btw at least not for 2012: it's charlize theron, according to forbes.

I can see the Oscar nomination coming!

Yes! I can feel it too.


oops!

delicatecutter
Jan 15th, 2013, 04:17 PM
:sobbing:

KournikovaFan91
Jan 15th, 2013, 04:26 PM
oops!

Lol :lol:

Talula
Jan 16th, 2013, 10:48 AM
I'm a fan of Keira, but she gave us nothing new in her portrayal of Anna. It was nearly note for note her performance in The Duchess. She didn't deserve an Oscar nomination this time. She needs to diversify, lay off the period pieces for a while and do some modern roles.

Having said that, I still feel that the story of Anna Karenina is very difficult to film for modern younger audiences, and this version added nothing new.

Valanga
Jan 17th, 2013, 03:36 PM
I'm a fan of Keira, but she gave us nothing new in her portrayal of Anna. It was nearly note for note her performance in The Duchess. She didn't deserve an Oscar nomination this time. She needs to diversify, lay off the period pieces for a while and do some modern roles.

Having said that, I still feel that the story of Anna Karenina is very difficult to film for modern younger audiences, and this version added nothing new.

She's kinda a typecast.

Novichok
Jan 17th, 2013, 04:17 PM
this is not true btw at least not for 2012: it's charlize theron, according to forbes.


Charlize Theron is American.

debopero
Jan 17th, 2013, 08:44 PM
^Isn't she South African?

Novichok
Jan 17th, 2013, 10:19 PM
^Isn't she South African?

Yeah. She has dual citizenship.

Beat
Jan 18th, 2013, 02:40 PM
ah, i thought she was south african, too - didn't know she got dual citizenship.

delicatecutter
Jan 18th, 2013, 03:25 PM
Theron became a US citizen in 2007, while retaining her South African citizenship.

Gotta love Wikipedia!

The Dawntreader
Jan 18th, 2013, 04:53 PM
She's kinda a typecast.

Extremely so.

Anna Karenina is so much more than she can offer. Vivien Leigh was much better.

Corswandt
Jan 18th, 2013, 10:28 PM
Just felt like pointing out this random factoid:

A paperback edition of Anna Karenina was recently released in my b00tifull kawntree, and the editors went for a film tie-in for the cover, choosing an image of Anna Karenina from a film. Yet it wasn't Knightley they picked.

http://images.portoeditora.pt/getresourcesservlet/image?EBbDj3QnkSUjgBOkfaUbsI8xBp%2F033q5Xpv56y8baM 60Jcb%2FZUawy5HiRXXhUafB&width=440

So beautiful it hurts.

ys
Jan 18th, 2013, 10:32 PM
So beautiful it hurts.

Oh yeah..