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renstar
Sep 8th, 2011, 01:53 PM
I grew up a seventh day adventist, but then left that and went to a pentecostal church for a while. I no longer go to formal church but still have strong Christian beliefs. Often interested in what people believe.

KournikovaFan91
Sep 8th, 2011, 02:30 PM
A la carte Catholic.

Cage
Sep 8th, 2011, 02:41 PM
None for me. I believe in unpunished actions. ( Except law and legal matters obviously )

Sammo
Sep 8th, 2011, 03:08 PM
Catholic, but I pity the people who have more faith in the Church than in themselves :oh:

Miss Amor
Sep 8th, 2011, 03:22 PM
Agnosticism

ViceUltramontain
Sep 8th, 2011, 03:29 PM
Atheist.

And you forgot to mention Orthodox church.

Sergius
Sep 8th, 2011, 03:59 PM
Seriously, mentioning Wicca and forgetting Orthodox church :lol:
I'm Orthodox, btw

delicatecutter
Sep 8th, 2011, 04:36 PM
Recovering Christian

Specter
Sep 8th, 2011, 06:10 PM
Atheist since 2nd grade. That whole "being Catholic" thing never really caught on with me. :oh:

Dani12
Sep 8th, 2011, 06:12 PM
Open minded :)

renstar
Sep 9th, 2011, 03:48 AM
Seriously, mentioning Wicca and forgetting Orthodox church :lol:
I'm Orthodox, btw

I took most of the religions from a wikipedia list of most attended world religions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religions

perhaps greek orthodox etc is listed under Christian?

ViceUltramontain
Sep 9th, 2011, 03:53 AM
I took most of the religions from a wikipedia list of most attended world religions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religions

perhaps greek orthodox etc is listed under Christian?

Of course it is. But you've precised "protestant or catholic" while Christianity is composed of three main groups, and you forgot to mention Orthodox church with the two others. But it's not a big deal anyway.

hellas719
Sep 9th, 2011, 04:26 AM
I'm Orthodox but it's not in the poll :help:

So I voted for the folk religions of Africa, Asia, and the Americas because it sounds cool :lol:

Keadz
Sep 9th, 2011, 04:58 AM
Born into the catholic church, only took a couple of years at a catholic primary school to realise it was a load of shit.

I'm open to religion, but I might need some proof before I go live my life in hopes of pleasing a particular deity. Preferbly not lead by a bunch of corrupt pedo's as well...

I know, I have pretty high standards ;)

ArturoAce.
Sep 9th, 2011, 05:10 AM
I ignore religion, but on paper I'm Buddhist and I went through the motions of Buddhism as a kid but never knew what the hell it was.

Brooklyn90
Sep 9th, 2011, 05:39 AM
Raised Catholic....
Now Atheist :)

Stamp Paid
Sep 9th, 2011, 06:52 AM
Still looking...
why is Judaism missing?

skanky~skanketta
Sep 9th, 2011, 06:54 AM
I'm supposedly Catholic, since I'm confirmed, but no. Just no.

Boreas
Sep 9th, 2011, 07:11 AM
Buddhism - that's one religion I can tolerate and is the closest to my personal beliefs.

Novichok
Sep 9th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Atheist.

Ashi
Sep 9th, 2011, 03:56 PM
Raised Catholic, now Agnostic. To be more precise, Agnostic Theist.

Sammo
Sep 9th, 2011, 04:31 PM
I ignore religion, but on paper I'm Buddhist and I went through the motions of Buddhism as a kid but never knew what the hell it was.

Yeah it looks like a hot mess as a religion but things like meditation are awesome.

Just Do It
Sep 9th, 2011, 05:25 PM
Christian - orthodox. You forgot that option

NoppaNoppa
Sep 9th, 2011, 07:01 PM
None. Period. I don´t understand the question. What is faith?

Super Dave
Sep 9th, 2011, 07:07 PM
I guess I'd be called an agnostic atheist. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism)

Keegan
Sep 9th, 2011, 07:33 PM
Anglican Christian on paper, but I don't really believe in an organised religion. I believe in God and all that, but I form my own opinion of things.

postalblowfish
Sep 9th, 2011, 07:42 PM
Church of England.

As far as I'm concerned people can believe in what they want as long as they're not harming anybody.

VasVas
Sep 9th, 2011, 07:46 PM
Islam, on paper..

I reject religions.. Selected Atheism for the poll but i call myself a Deist actually..

Sergius
Sep 9th, 2011, 09:14 PM
I took most of the religions from a wikipedia list of most attended world religions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religions

perhaps greek orthodox etc is listed under Christian?

Yes, of course, Orthodox Church is Christian. There are some Russian, Serbian,Bulgarian etc posters here, so it would've made sense to include Orthodox Church in the poll. Btw, I'm not complaining, just saying :lol:

Mistress of Evil
Sep 9th, 2011, 09:31 PM
Religion is just another thing which divides people, makes borders between them :shrug:
Personally, I do not believe in any God, maybe in some higher universal power, but not in lies, made up by human kind through history.

Ayumilover.
Sep 9th, 2011, 11:56 PM
I am a christian :angel:

i feel bad for all of the liberal athiest :help: :hug:

renstar
Sep 10th, 2011, 12:37 AM
Still looking...
why is Judaism missing?

yes my bad, my mistake.... kept seeing that on the list from wikipedia and meaning to add but forgot:tape:... and don't think u can edit a poll

ViceUltramontain
Sep 10th, 2011, 12:45 AM
I am a christian :angel:

i feel bad for all of the liberal athiest :help: :hug:

Please don't.

renstar
Sep 10th, 2011, 01:29 AM
Its Christians vs those naughty atheists for poll supremecy :lol:

oh well at least we know most followers of women's tennis are either Christian or Atheist ;)

The Dawntreader
Sep 10th, 2011, 02:14 AM
On paper I'm a Methodist, but by practice, i'm probably a borderline atheist.

Shvedbarilescu
Sep 10th, 2011, 02:44 AM
Liberal Agnostic which is actually quite different from Liberal Athiest. Oh and for the record, I don't really mind if Ayumilover does feel sorry for me. Infact I don't care one way or the other whatever Ayumilover feels about me.

iPatty
Sep 10th, 2011, 02:47 AM
I am a christian :angel:

i feel bad for all of the liberal athiest :help: :hug:

The feeling is mutual, don't worry.

Lefty.
Sep 10th, 2011, 02:47 AM
I would consider myself an agnostic atheist.

Fighterpova
Sep 10th, 2011, 03:19 AM
Atheist, but I'm Orthodox Christian on paper :oh:

Ayumilover.
Sep 10th, 2011, 04:16 AM
Liberal Agnostic which is actually quite different from Liberal Athiest. Oh and for the record, I don't really mind if Ayumilover does feel sorry for me. Infact I don't care one way or the other whatever Ayumilover feels about me.

It's not what I feel about you personally, it's just the lifestyle in general that I think is rather sad. Us christians help try to make the world a better place, by also following the bible of which the 4 evangilists (matthew,mark,luke,john) wrote from Jesus's word - who is the son of God. Remember, God is not man nor women, but a spiritual force that oversees our well-being, and loves us more than any person you could imagine.

You say there is a difference between Liberal Agnostic and Liberal Athiest. I'm not saying there isn't, but please do explain.

Fighterpova
Sep 10th, 2011, 03:10 PM
^ Some Christians have such stereotypes towards Atheists :tape:

Shvedbarilescu
Sep 10th, 2011, 07:52 PM
It's not what I feel about you personally, it's just the lifestyle in general that I think is rather sad. Us christians help try to make the world a better place, by also following the bible of which the 4 evangilists (matthew,mark,luke,john) wrote from Jesus's word - who is the son of God. Remember, God is not man nor women, but a spiritual force that oversees our well-being, and loves us more than any person you could imagine.

You say there is a difference between Liberal Agnostic and Liberal Athiest. I'm not saying there isn't, but please do explain.

The difference between an Agnostic and an Athiest is simple. An Athiest believes there is no God. An Agnostic is openminded and doesn't feel that they know the secrets to life and thus they are not willing to dismiss the possibility of the existence of God but neither are they inclined to insist on one particular way of thinking.

As for Christians trying to make the world a better place, I don't believe that making the world a better place is solely the preserve of Christians. There are lots of ways to make the world a better place but I believe the single most important means of making the world a better place is by simply being kind to others. I certainly don't believe that any one religion has swallowed up the market in the ability to be kind to others. Indeed, I would say one of the most important ways of being kind to others is to accept others for who they are and accept their differences, including their idealogical differences. Too often I see others use religion as a way not to be kind to others but to judge others who think differently to themselves. I don't believe this is the way to make the world a better place.

Apoleb
Sep 10th, 2011, 08:36 PM
Religions are anthropocentric delusions. Pass.

The whole concept of a "God" as a being endowed with some human characteristics is an anthropocentric delusion.

So that leaves me with "atheist". Agnosticism doesn't make sense to me, because it either 1) presupposes some validity to the concept that makes it sufficiently probable to be seriously entertained or 2) assumes that one cannot make a definitive statement about the existence of anything. Both, I think, are indefensible.

If there is some abstract concept of a "god" that is worthy of worship and that, in some sense, is all-powerful, it's the cold, hard reality.

RayB
Sep 11th, 2011, 02:16 AM
Why isn't Judaism added?

Barrie_Dude
Sep 11th, 2011, 04:19 AM
Am a Protestant and wish not to be lumped in with the evil papists

Temperenka
Sep 12th, 2011, 06:18 AM
I am a christian :angel:

i feel bad for all of the liberal athiest :help: :hug:

For some reason, this statement makes me even prouder to call myself an atheist.

Don't feel sorry for us, we don't need your God to be good people.

renstar
Sep 12th, 2011, 08:30 AM
For some reason, this statement makes me even prouder to call myself an atheist.

Don't feel sorry for us, we don't need your God to be good people.

You may need him when your at deaths door, its rather hot in hell

Londoner
Sep 12th, 2011, 10:00 AM
I would include Agnostic and/or undecided!

Temperenka
Sep 12th, 2011, 04:08 PM
You may need him when your at deaths door, its rather hot in hell

You're pathetic.

Shinjiro
Sep 12th, 2011, 07:21 PM
I'm not into religions, no.

Emiel Goelen
Sep 12th, 2011, 07:23 PM
None whatsoever.

propi
Sep 13th, 2011, 12:11 AM
Apatheist here :wavey:

égalité
Sep 13th, 2011, 01:02 AM
No Judaism on the poll? :weirdo:

Atheist.

Milito22
Sep 13th, 2011, 01:45 AM
No Judaism on the poll? :weirdo:


this :(

messianic

im interested in Zoroastrianism

Lisickinator
Sep 13th, 2011, 03:38 AM
:bowdown: Flying Spaghetti Monster :bowdown:

Kworb
Sep 13th, 2011, 10:52 AM
None of the above. I'm agnostic.

Mynarco
Sep 13th, 2011, 11:00 PM
A really lazy Christian (Catholic to be specific) - seldom read bibles or show up in church.

notoriousbig
Sep 13th, 2011, 11:17 PM
Atheist!

Mr.Sharapova
Sep 13th, 2011, 11:31 PM
Muslim :shrug:.

égalité
Sep 14th, 2011, 01:24 AM
It's not what I feel about you personally, it's just the lifestyle in general that I think is rather sad. Us christians help try to make the world a better place, by also following the bible of which the 4 evangilists (matthew,mark,luke,john) wrote from Jesus's word - who is the son of God. Remember, God is not man nor women, but a spiritual force that oversees our well-being, and loves us more than any person you could imagine.

You say there is a difference between Liberal Agnostic and Liberal Athiest. I'm not saying there isn't, but please do explain.

oh my god :help: what makes you think atheists don't try to make the world a better place? just because we're not doing it in the name of god? :weirdo: I mean, I've done a lot of volunteering in my time, including rebuilding houses after hurricane katrina, but I guess that doesn't count because I'm an atheist :worship:

Do you even know any atheists in real life? The way you're talking about them makes me think you've never actually met one.

Temperenka
Sep 14th, 2011, 05:39 AM
oh my god :help: what makes you think atheists don't try to make the world a better place? just because we're not doing it in the name of god? :weirdo: I mean, I've done a lot of volunteering in my time, including rebuilding houses after hurricane katrina, but I guess that doesn't count because I'm an atheist :worship:

Do you even know any atheists in real life? The way you're talking about them makes me think you've never actually met one.

Excellent post. :yeah: :worship:

I too spend a lot of time giving back to the world. I volunteer 80+ hours every year between January and April helping lower-income families file their tax returns, I give $40 a month to feed and buy school supplies for a pair of sisters from Bangladesh, and give money every month to organizations like Make A Wish. Yet, I've been told a few dozen times that I am going to rot in hell because I'm an atheist.

Like I said earlier in this thread, other Atheists and I don't need God to be good people. As a whole, we respect each person and their faith... yet we are treated the scum of the earth.

requiem
Sep 14th, 2011, 09:24 AM
You may need him when your at deaths door, its rather hot in hell

I have a question for you. Lets say that Christianity is right about God. And, you have two people. One, Christian, baptized and everything, goes to church, prays. Ask for forgiveness and gets absolution from his priest. Gives money to church. And is actually a mean person, doesn't give a crap about anyone but himself, lets say even that he is a rapist. But he did get his absolution for that. Other is atheist. He gives a lot of money to charity. Helps those around him. Volunteers on regular basis. Every day he does something to make a world a better place not only for him, but for everybody. And then, eventually, they both die. Now tell me, is atheist going to hell? Is Christian going to heaven?

If what church is saying is true, than both answers are yes. To me, it does not make any sense.

Oh, and I would call myself Deist. Funny, I'm second one here

Halardfan
Sep 14th, 2011, 10:39 AM
Atheist.

Mr.Sharapova
Sep 14th, 2011, 11:09 AM
It's not what I feel about you personally, it's just the lifestyle in general that I think is rather sad. Us christians help try to make the world a better place, by also following the bible of which the 4 evangilists (matthew,mark,luke,john) wrote from Jesus's word - who is the son of God. Remember, God is not man nor women, but a spiritual force that oversees our well-being, and loves us more than any person you could imagine.

You say there is a difference between Liberal Agnostic and Liberal Athiest. I'm not saying there isn't, but please do explain.

You're just some dumb guy who has been fed all his life by the church and has no opinion whatsoever on things on your own.

I am a Muslim but I don't judge Atheist's of any other kind of belief there is in the world.

Beat
Sep 14th, 2011, 01:00 PM
why is The House Of Lord Munkton not an option in the poll? :sad:

Beat
Sep 14th, 2011, 01:02 PM
You may need him when your at deaths door, its rather hot in hell

:haha: you really are a complete nutter.

renstar
Sep 14th, 2011, 02:15 PM
I have a question for you. Lets say that Christianity is right about God. And, you have two people. One, Christian, baptized and everything, goes to church, prays. Ask for forgiveness and gets absolution from his priest. Gives money to church. And is actually a mean person, doesn't give a crap about anyone but himself, lets say even that he is a rapist. But he did get his absolution for that. Other is atheist. He gives a lot of money to charity. Helps those around him. Volunteers on regular basis. Every day he does something to make a world a better place not only for him, but for everybody. And then, eventually, they both die. Now tell me, is atheist going to hell? Is Christian going to heaven?

If what church is saying is true, than both answers are yes. To me, it does not make any sense.

Oh, and I would call myself Deist. Funny, I'm second one here

Well you see your seeing "good works" as the way people get to Heaven. But God does not see it this way, he calls even the best works of man as "dirty rags" in his sight. No one ever will be up to his standard no matter what they do and all are destined to Hell by default because of sin. This was why Jesus was sent that whoever believes in him and trust him for their salvation will have everlasting life (John 3:16). Then during Judgement Jesus is put in our place and we are seen as blameless.

Trust me there are plenty of people in churches that will also not make it to Heaven because they are doing things as works to get into heaven and are full of pride. And sure there are plenty of atheists and people out there from the outside appear like they are such perfect good doing people, but they could be rotten on the inside, who can judge someones heart but God?

I consider any turning away from sin in my own personal life a gift from God, cause I know Im hopeless in myself, so I thank God for that, because as a human race we are all fatally flawed. I constantly talk to God, and in your inner being you just know that you know that you know at a deep level He is real.

renstar
Sep 14th, 2011, 02:19 PM
why is The House Of Lord Munkton not an option in the poll? :sad:

ha ha, he is an atheist i would think........ but a damn good proponent at debunking all the greenies rubbish global warming hoo doo crap!

InsideOut.
Sep 14th, 2011, 04:29 PM
Atheist. Hardline.

It's not what I feel about you personally, it's just the lifestyle in general that I think is rather sad. Us christians help try to make the world a better place, by also following the bible of which the 4 evangilists (matthew,mark,luke,john) wrote from Jesus's word - who is the son of God. Remember, God is not man nor women, but a spiritual force that oversees our well-being, and loves us more than any person you could imagine.

This post is just all kinds of fail. You and DaMamaJama should get together sometimes to discuss your conversations with God.

Sergius
Sep 14th, 2011, 07:16 PM
Seriously, guys,I have nothing against atheists and agnostic (though I am not that religious, just a believer), but you're too harsh on renstar and Ayumilover :shrug: No need to insult them (cause they actually didn't insult anyone), let them think the way they do

mykarma
Sep 14th, 2011, 07:23 PM
It's not what I feel about you personally, it's just the lifestyle in general that I think is rather sad. Us christians help try to make the world a better place, by also following the bible of which the 4 evangilists (matthew,mark,luke,john) wrote from Jesus's word - who is the son of God. Remember, God is not man nor women, but a spiritual force that oversees our well-being, and loves us more than any person you could imagine.

You say there is a difference between Liberal Agnostic and Liberal Athiest. I'm not saying there isn't, but please do explain.
What is it about their lifestyle that you disapprove of?

mykarma
Sep 14th, 2011, 07:49 PM
Seriously, guys,I have nothing against atheists and agnostic (though I am not that religious, just a believer), but you're too harsh on renstar and Ayumilover :shrug: No need to insult them (cause they actually didn't insult anyone), let them think the way they do
It's very insulting when you tell someone that you feel bad for them for the religion they practice. As long as a person's belief is positive and makes them happy as a Buddhist that's fine with me.

égalité
Sep 14th, 2011, 08:12 PM
Seriously, guys,I have nothing against atheists and agnostic (though I am not that religious, just a believer), but you're too harsh on renstar and Ayumilover :shrug: No need to insult them (cause they actually didn't insult anyone), let them think the way they do

Oh, and telling atheists that "it's awfully hot in hell" isn't too harsh? They insulted us first. Just because Ayumilover phrased his/her insult in the form of (self-)righteous "concern" for us poor atheists doesn't make it anything less than an insult.

Sergius
Sep 14th, 2011, 08:17 PM
It's very insulting when you tell someone that you feel bad for them for the religion they practice. As long as a person's belief is positive and makes them happy as a Buddhist, that's fine with me.

Well, by this logic, saying that the religion is a delusion can be considered insulting as well, and no one complained about that Apoleb's remark :shrug: Apoleb believes any religion is a delusion, that's how he feels, and some posters may also feel sorry for atheists, that's how they feel :shrug:
Anyway, my point is that calling someone 'pathetic' and a 'dumb guy' is not the best answer to a probable trolling (and a very bad trolling) and/or arrogant post.
I just wish people were nicer and more tolerant here :lol:

Oh, and telling atheists that "it's awfully hot in hell" isn't too harsh? They insulted us first. Just because Ayumilover phrased his/her insult in the form of (self-)righteous "concern" for us poor atheists doesn't make it anything less than an insult.
Seriously, I don't really understand that. If I didn't believe in God and someone told me such a phrase ("it's awfully hot in hell") I would just laughed out loud at that. I wouldn't feel insulted, that's for sure.
I'm not playing dumb, btw, I just can't understand what the insult was about :lol:

pov
Sep 14th, 2011, 08:21 PM
You didn't include a category for those who are spiritual but not religious.

Temperenka
Sep 14th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Seriously, guys,I have nothing against atheists and agnostic (though I am not that religious, just a believer), but you're too harsh on renstar and Ayumilover :shrug: No need to insult them (cause they actually didn't insult anyone), let them think the way they do

Renstar said that I would need god when I realized how hot it was in hell.

The only posters insulting others and not "letting them think the way they do" are renstar and Ayumilover. They are bashing our morals on a personal level because of our beliefs.

No one is challenging their beliefs. THEY are the ones that need to learn acceptance.

mykarma
Sep 14th, 2011, 09:09 PM
Well, by this logic, saying that the religion is a delusion can be considered insulting as well, and no one complained about that Apoleb's remark :shrug: Apoleb believes any religion is a delusion, that's how he feels, and some posters may also feel sorry for atheists, that's how they feel :shrug:
Anyway, my point is that calling someone 'pathetic' and a 'dumb guy' is not the best answer to a probable trolling (and a very bad trolling) and/or arrogant post.
I just wish people were nicer and more tolerant here :lol:


Seriously, I don't really understand that. If I didn't believe in God and someone told me such a phrase ("it's awfully hot in hell") I would just laughed out loud at that. I wouldn't feel insulted, that's for sure.
I'm not playing dumb, btw, I just can't understand what the insult was about :lol:
I was responding to your post that said the named posters weren't insulting anyone and was getting picked on for no reason. Many that read their statements disagree including me.

requiem
Sep 14th, 2011, 09:33 PM
Well you see your seeing "good works" as the way people get to Heaven. But God does not see it this way, he calls even the best works of man as "dirty rags" in his sight. No one ever will be up to his standard no matter what they do and all are destined to Hell by default because of sin. This was why Jesus was sent that whoever believes in him and trust him for their salvation will have everlasting life (John 3:16). Then during Judgement Jesus is put in our place and we are seen as blameless.

Trust me there are plenty of people in churches that will also not make it to Heaven because they are doing things as works to get into heaven and are full of pride. And sure there are plenty of atheists and people out there from the outside appear like they are such perfect good doing people, but they could be rotten on the inside, who can judge someones heart but God?

I consider any turning away from sin in my own personal life a gift from God, cause I know Im hopeless in myself, so I thank God for that, because as a human race we are all fatally flawed. I constantly talk to God, and in your inner being you just know that you know that you know at a deep level He is real.

I know that talking logic to a man of faith is useless, BUT, I was giving an example of an atheist, who's heart is pure by all Christian standards, save for one. He does not believe in God. Will that man go to hell? Is that a penultimate sin? Try to assume, that there is a man, that, if he was a Christian, he would be canonized as saint, and fully deserve it, but since he is not, is he going to end up in hell?

Sergius
Sep 14th, 2011, 09:41 PM
I was responding to your post that said the named posters weren't insulting anyone and was getting picked on for no reason. Many that read their statements disagree including me.

Ok.

watchdogfish
Sep 14th, 2011, 10:24 PM
Atheist.

To tell an atheist they'll burn in hell for not believing in god is pretty stupid as they won't believe that hell exists either :p

Ayumilover.
Sep 15th, 2011, 12:22 AM
Seriously, guys,I have nothing against atheists and agnostic (though I am not that religious, just a believer), but you're too harsh on renstar and Ayumilover :shrug: No need to insult them (cause they actually didn't insult anyone), let them think the way they do

Thank you for your kind words. :wavey:

As a christian, I can tell you that we have no interest in bombing other countries, and terrorizing innocent people because they don't have the same religion. To feel insulted for me saying that I feel sorry for some of you guys for practicing another religion is rather ridiculous when I clearly expressed sorrow for Athiest, who don't even practice a religion at all. All styles of life should be respected, but if one lives there life off of the morals of the christian religion, they will be a well off person. Of course, we have our flaws in that sure we curse all the time, and yeah we use the word gay in replace of stupid or lame, but only a fool would say that Athiest are more respectful to christians, than christians are to athiest.

Ayumilover.
Sep 15th, 2011, 12:26 AM
oh my god :help: what makes you think atheists don't try to make the world a better place? just because we're not doing it in the name of god? :weirdo: I mean, I've done a lot of volunteering in my time, including rebuilding houses after hurricane katrina, but I guess that doesn't count because I'm an atheist :worship:

Do you even know any atheists in real life? The way you're talking about them makes me think you've never actually met one.

If you would care to look at everything i had written in that post, you would see that i was saying we help the world by becoming a better place through the word of the lord. Not always, but we have our unhindered faith in Jesus, the son of Christ. As a sophmore in an American public high school, I think even you would know that there are many athiest to be found. Even in the suburbs where I live. Just because I said I feel the choice of life isn't my cup of tea, that doesn't mean i automatically hate all athiest. I have two friends that i can think of who claim to be athiest.

Ayumilover.
Sep 15th, 2011, 12:31 AM
Renstar said that I would need god when I realized how hot it was in hell.

The only posters insulting others and not "letting them think the way they do" are renstar and Ayumilover. They are bashing our morals on a personal level because of our beliefs.

No one is challenging their beliefs. THEY are the ones that need to learn acceptance.

I am a very accepting person. Especially for a teenager that lives and breathes on the sports scene and does instense soccer training 6 days a week.

To say that Renstar and I are the only ones who are bashing other posters, you clearly haven't read through the whole thread. In fact, I don't see how praising the Lord is bashing athiesm. I think that is quite absurd and delusional.

égalité
Sep 15th, 2011, 12:36 AM
Thank you for your kind words. :wavey:

As a christian, I can tell you that we have no interest in bombing other countries, and terrorizing innocent people because they don't have the same religion. To feel insulted for me saying that I feel sorry for some of you guys for practicing another religion is rather ridiculous when I clearly expressed sorrow for Athiest, who don't even practice a religion at all. All styles of life should be respected, but if one lives there life off of the morals of the christian religion, they will be a well off person. Of course, we have our flaws in that sure we curse all the time, and yeah we use the word gay in replace of stupid or lame, but only a fool would say that Athiest are more respectful to christians, than christians are to athiest.

How can you not understand that it's extremely condescending for you to say you feel sorry for atheists? Why do you feel sorry for them? Atheists aren't sad people who need your pity.

Also, Christianity isn't the only source of a moral compass. People of all faiths and non-faiths have morals. Shouldn't we all try to be good people regardless of whether God exists?

Ayumilover.
Sep 15th, 2011, 12:41 AM
How can you not understand that it's extremely condescending for you to say you feel sorry for atheists? Why do you feel sorry for them? Atheists aren't sad people who need your pity.

I know that athiest aren't sad people at all. Actually, some are but I don't feel pity for them because I think they are sad. I feel pity for them because they don't see the light of God and all he does for us. If you think I am a crazy christian who hates anyone not christian, that is completely false as you can see for example, my 4th favorite player is Aravane Rezai, who is really important to me. She is a muslim. But i don't care. I love her for the person she is. Also, I highly doubt Na is a christian and i love Japanese women and 99% of them aint Christian. and the only players I feel that passionate about are the ones in my Sig. So whether its tennis, or whether it's a random person, religion has no effect, unless it's terrorist, but that is a different matter.

And about your 2nd part, yes we should try to be good people no matter what our belief is, and we can be thankful that people from places such as East Asia who are mainly bhuddist or Shinto's are such warm, friendly people who have morals higher than most of my friends, who pretty much all go to church at least once a year. But to think that it is good for religious groups such as radical islamic people to terrorize innocent places and people just to promote Islam in a hostile way, that is not what good people are about.

InsideOut.
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:05 AM
Thank you for your kind words. :wavey:

As a christian, I can tell you that we have no interest in bombing other countries, and terrorizing innocent people because they don't have the same religion. To feel insulted for me saying that I feel sorry for some of you guys for practicing another religion is rather ridiculous when I clearly expressed sorrow for Athiest, who don't even practice a religion at all. All styles of life should be respected, but if one lives there life off of the morals of the christian religion, they will be a well off person. Of course, we have our flaws in that sure we curse all the time, and yeah we use the word gay in replace of stupid or lame, but only a fool would say that Athiest are more respectful to christians, than christians are to athiest.

And how did you even come up with THAT assumption? :weirdo: Look, only a fool would make a sweeping generalization about a type of people that exists across the entire world without any sort of believable proof or even remotely compelling analysis. How on EARTH do you see that Christians are necessarily more respectful to atheists than the other way round? Honestly? You yourself definitely aren't a very good example of that with your condescending remarks.

You also seem to be assuming that morals have to go hand in hand with religion, which is why you feel so sorry for atheists. Justify that, please. Are you suggesting that atheists are automatically immoral because there isn't a spiritual force lording over them?

Ayumilover.
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:15 AM
And how did you even come up with THAT assumption? :weirdo: Look, only a fool would make a sweeping generalization about a type of people that exists across the entire world without any sort of believable proof or even remotely compelling analysis. How on EARTH do you see that Christians are necessarily more respectful to atheists than the other way round? Honestly? You yourself definitely aren't a very good example of that with your condescending remarks.

You also seem to be assuming that morals have to go hand in hand with religion, which is why you feel so sorry for atheists. Justify that, please. Are you suggesting that atheists are automatically immoral because there isn't a spiritual force lording over them?

No, I already said that I know that it doesn't take a christian to have morals. Clearly, you didn't ready all I wrote.

Lin Lin
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:16 AM
No Taoist?:lol:
I am not a Taoist though:lol:

Ayumilover.
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:18 AM
No Taoist?:lol:
I am not a Taoist though:lol:

Yep sorry! I knew I was forgetting a big one :facepalm:
speaking of Taoist, there's a really hot girl in my grade named Sunny and she is Taoist :lol: :hearts:

Lin Lin
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:23 AM
Wow!A student girl being a Taoist?:lol:interesting:lol:

I am not a Taoist but I like some of its philosophy about life:yeah:

Ayumilover.
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:26 AM
Wow!A student girl being a Taoist?:lol:interesting:lol:

I am not a Taoist but I like some of its philosophy about life:yeah:

yeah but chinese/korean girls integrate really well so a couple of them are even part of the more popular groups. i would have added japanese too but there aren't really any japanese americans around :sad: :lol:

Lin Lin
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:30 AM
Is that related to religion?:scratch:

Lin Lin
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:31 AM
BTW,I am a Atheist:wavey:

Ayumilover.
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:33 AM
Is that related to religion?:scratch:

No, but none of the Chinese people i know are christian, but they are all great people so given that non-christian minorities (east asian girls) can relate well with everyone else who is in sports, or the performance team or whatever, it shows that christians can do very well with non-christians

Lin Lin
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:39 AM
No, but none of the Chinese people i know are christian, but they are all great people so given that non-christian minorities (east asian girls) can relate well with everyone else who is in sports, or the performance team or whatever, it shows that christians can do very well with non-christians

Not with Islamic probably:lol:

Taoist could do very well with others I think,it's the basic theory of Taoist.:yeah:

melodynelson
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:43 AM
I am more or less agnostic, but have spent my life in fear of either going to hell or some dark black hole where I just exist in nothingness for eternity after I die because of not having some concrete belief in a Christian god. I don't see any resolution to this, sadly.

Religion is pretty meaningless to me as a person, but it's interesting to study and see how it has affected the world as centuries have passed at least.

Ayumilover.
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:44 AM
Not with Islamic probably:lol:

Taoist could do very well with others I think,it's the basic theory of Taoist.:yeah:

That's really so awesome. Christians and Asian groups get along very well with eachother everywhere because Asian men are known to work hard while Asian women tend to be very charming, fun, and pretty sexy. They integrate great, and everyone is extremely accepting.
The same cannot be said for muslims. There is not a single muslim girl at my school who doesn't wear a burqa (there are only about 5 muslims girls) and all of the muslim boys get really bad grades, and are super annoying and get in trouble all the time. It's the same in Germany, and I would know since i have connections to Germany. They are totally fine with Vietnamese people and bhuddist, but the islamic Turks..not at all.

Lin Lin
Sep 15th, 2011, 01:52 AM
Anyway,it's interesting to read:lol::yeah:

ampers&
Sep 15th, 2011, 03:04 AM
Agnostic Existentialist

égalité
Sep 15th, 2011, 05:48 AM
I know that athiest aren't sad people at all. Actually, some are but I don't feel pity for them because I think they are sad. I feel pity for them because they don't see the light of God and all he does for us. If you think I am a crazy christian who hates anyone not christian, that is completely false as you can see for example, my 4th favorite player is Aravane Rezai, who is really important to me. She is a muslim. But i don't care. I love her for the person she is. Also, I highly doubt Na is a christian and i love Japanese women and 99% of them aint Christian. and the only players I feel that passionate about are the ones in my Sig. So whether its tennis, or whether it's a random person, religion has no effect, unless it's terrorist, but that is a different matter.

And about your 2nd part, yes we should try to be good people no matter what our belief is, and we can be thankful that people from places such as East Asia who are mainly bhuddist or Shinto's are such warm, friendly people who have morals higher than most of my friends, who pretty much all go to church at least once a year. But to think that it is good for religious groups such as radical islamic people to terrorize innocent places and people just to promote Islam in a hostile way, that is not what good people are about.

I know you're not a crazy Christian. :hug: Your username isn't DaMamaJama87. :tape:

I guess what I'm saying is that you don't need to pity us for the fact that we're missing "the light of God." We can't miss something we don't believe in. We experience that kind of joy from other (secular) things in life. :)

Ayumilover.
Sep 15th, 2011, 05:58 AM
I know you're not a crazy Christian. :hug: Your username isn't DaMamaJama87. :tape:

I guess what I'm saying is that you don't need to pity us for the fact that we're missing "the light of God." We can't miss something we don't believe in. We experience that kind of joy from other (secular) things in life. :)

what do you mean by secular?

i definitely know what you mean though. i'm sure you've heard that line more times than you'd care to remember, and as a christian (who hates going to church but does it anyways), i still do try to put god first but really, i am not a good christian at all. I've spent a lot of time though with church leaders and for me, it's been good. i know not everyone would feel the same way, but i am lucky to be apart of what i am not. I think Christians want to always pray for everyone because they feel it's the best way to help others, and they have converted many people. There are athiest all over the world, and lots in America so religously, we're extremely diverse. I don't know the mind of an athiest but on a personal level, i don't think i could imagine a world without God. I do believe in evolution, but so do most christians. To sum it up, i think most christians feel pity becuase they feel they need to. Athiests such as you and probably everyother would say they don't need it, and that's fine. It's just hard not to want to tell non-believers about God when you do feel a passion for it. It's hard to explain but yeah, i can tell you this...christians and myself don't see ourselves as better people for being christian. In fact, i would say a lot of the christians in my grade could be a lot nicer to others by doing things such as being kinder to people who may not be "cool" or "fit in" and things like that. It's really complicated.

InsideOut.
Sep 15th, 2011, 06:31 AM
No, I already said that I know that it doesn't take a christian to have morals. Clearly, you didn't ready all I wrote.

Given that, how do you make your sweeping generalizations about atheists and Christians? About how Christians are more likely to be nice to atheists than the other way round? That's baseless at best, and false at worst.

bulava
Sep 15th, 2011, 03:47 PM
I'm 'inspired' by Hinduism and Buddhism :angel:

Watch this extra-ordinary BBC series presented by Michael Wood to learn how those two oldest Religions have made great impact and contribution to this world:

The Story of India
http://www.amazon.com/Story-India-Michael-Writer-Presenter/dp/B001MYIPYQ

tonythetiger
Sep 15th, 2011, 04:11 PM
Seventh-day Adventist!! Praise the Lord!

ViceUltramontain
Sep 15th, 2011, 08:04 PM
That's really so awesome. Christians and Asian groups get along very well with eachother everywhere because Asian men are known to work hard while Asian women tend to be very charming, fun, and pretty sexy. They integrate great, and everyone is extremely accepting.
The same cannot be said for muslims. There is not a single muslim girl at my school who doesn't wear a burqa (there are only about 5 muslims girls) and all of the muslim boys get really bad grades, and are super annoying and get in trouble all the time. It's the same in Germany, and I would know since i have connections to Germany. They are totally fine with Vietnamese people and bhuddist, but the islamic Turks..not at all.

Please, shut up.

mykarma
Sep 16th, 2011, 02:46 AM
That's really so awesome. Christians and Asian groups get along very well with eachother everywhere because Asian men are known to work hard while Asian women tend to be very charming, fun, and pretty sexy. They integrate great, and everyone is extremely accepting.
The same cannot be said for muslims. There is not a single muslim girl at my school who doesn't wear a burqa (there are only about 5 muslims girls) and all of the muslim boys get really bad grades, and are super annoying and get in trouble all the time. It's the same in Germany, and I would know since i have connections to Germany. They are totally fine with Vietnamese people and bhuddist, but the islamic Turks..not at all.
Got Damn, what a racist self-serving SOB you are and the Muslim guys probably get in trouble if the people in your school think like you.

delicatecutter
Sep 16th, 2011, 03:20 AM
The sooner everyone ignores Ayumilover, the most useful this forum will be.

Ayumilover.
Sep 16th, 2011, 03:24 AM
The sooner everyone ignores Ayumilover, the most useful this forum will be.

Oh excuse me, i didn't know it was illegal to express your opinion by telling it like it is. :rolleyes:

if the only thing you can add to a civilized discussion is just whining with any legitimate reason, then your the ones that needs to be ignored. At least with the other athiest, they explained themselves, and we were able to come to a mutual respect. If your capable of that, than great.

delicatecutter
Sep 16th, 2011, 03:31 AM
Oh excuse me, i didn't know it was illegal to express your opinion by telling it like it is. :rolleyes:

if the only thing you can add to a civilized discussion is just whining with any legitimate reason, then your the ones that needs to be ignored. At least with the other athiest, they explained themselves, and we were able to come to a mutual respect. If your capable of that, than great.

It's almost impossible for me to look past your horrible spelling, grammar, and capitilization. And that's just for starters. Why would I debate with someone who appears to have been dropped on his head as an infant? I do not have the patience.

Ayumilover.
Sep 16th, 2011, 03:33 AM
It's almost impossible for me to look past your horrible spelling, grammar, and capitilization. And that's just for starters. Why would I debate with a retard?

Well if all you have to do is unsult people for not using proper grammer on an internet forum and calling them a retard, i rather not debate with you either. :shrug:

delicatecutter
Sep 16th, 2011, 03:36 AM
Well if all you have to do is unsult people for not using proper grammer on an internet forum and calling them a retard, i rather not debate with you either. :shrug:

I have nothing against mentally slow people, but it's not a fair fight. You can't even spell "insult" correctly. I just can't.

Ayumilover.
Sep 16th, 2011, 03:42 AM
I have nothing against mentally slow people, but it's not a fair fight. You can't even spell "insult" correctly. I just can't.

Or you don't have anything to debate for? It's funny that you turn my telling it how it is, into a bash for not spelling every word correctly after you don't have anything to say. :lol:
Yep, those are really high morals right there. :yeah:

delicatecutter
Sep 16th, 2011, 03:46 AM
Or you don't have anything to debate for? It's funny that you turn my telling it how it is, into a bash for not spelling every word correctly after you don't have anything to say. :lol:
Yep, those are really high morals right there. :yeah:

Um there is no point debating religion with the brain-washed Christians. Do you honestly think anything I say is going to change your mind and make you become an atheist? I don't think so, so why would I waste my time?

mykarma
Sep 16th, 2011, 03:59 AM
Thank you for your kind words. :wavey:

As a christian, I can tell you that we have no interest in bombing other countries, and terrorizing innocent people because they don't have the same religion. To feel insulted for me saying that I feel sorry for some of you guys for practicing another religion is rather ridiculous when I clearly expressed sorrow for Athiest, who don't even practice a religion at all. All styles of life should be respected, but if one lives there life off of the morals of the christian religion, they will be a well off person. Of course, we have our flaws in that sure we curse all the time, and yeah we use the word gay in replace of stupid or lame, but only a fool would say that Athiest are more respectful to christians, than christians are to athiest.
Poor example of a Christian.
If you would care to look at everything i had written in that post, you would see that i was saying we help the world by becoming a better place through the word of the lord. Not always, but we have our unhindered faith in Jesus, the son of Christ. As a sophmore in an American public high school, I think even you would know that there are many athiest to be found. Even in the suburbs where I live. Just because I said I feel the choice of life isn't my cup of tea, that doesn't mean i automatically hate all athiest. I have two friends that i can think of who claim to be athiest.
You have the nerve to talk about Muslim guys doing poorly in school. The only way you're not failing in school is if you're in special classes.
You say you're a sophomore and can't even spell that correctly. You're really pathetic and your only saving grace is that you're young. I really hope this is not what you're being taught at home. :sad:

mykarma
Sep 16th, 2011, 04:20 AM
Please, shut up.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Vartan
Sep 16th, 2011, 04:40 AM
Christian

Temperenka
Sep 18th, 2011, 11:47 PM
That's really so awesome. Christians and Asian groups get along very well with eachother everywhere because Asian men are known to work hard while Asian women tend to be very charming, fun, and pretty sexy. They integrate great, and everyone is extremely accepting.
The same cannot be said for muslims. There is not a single muslim girl at my school who doesn't wear a burqa (there are only about 5 muslims girls) and all of the muslim boys get really bad grades, and are super annoying and get in trouble all the time. It's the same in Germany, and I would know since i have connections to Germany. They are totally fine with Vietnamese people and bhuddist, but the islamic Turks..not at all.

Oh my... I didn't see this post until now. :help: :sobbing:

InsideOut.
Sep 19th, 2011, 02:13 AM
Oh my... I didn't see this post until now. :help: :sobbing:

Me neither :help: OMG :o

Hashim.
Sep 19th, 2011, 02:24 AM
OMG wow.:rolls:
I just love the explanation he gave.:facepalm:

Ayumilover.
Sep 19th, 2011, 02:31 AM
OMG wow.:rolls:
I just love the explanation he gave.:facepalm:

well it's complete true.
what explanation are you looking for?

Otlichno
Sep 19th, 2011, 03:30 AM
I am a Muslim, slightly agnostic at times but usually I have a firm belief in God.

As for AyumiLover, I am Muslim, I recently got an A in my Math A-level, and have been doing great in school and graduated from the toughest school in the UAE. My sister also happens to be Muslim, and she's studying medicine in the University of Queensland and she does not wear the "burqa" also there is a difference between burqa and hijab, the hijab is the one "required" to wear (not that most Muslim girls wear it), the burqa is worn instead as a choice rather than a requirement.

No, your opinion on us is not "complete true" (it's completely by the way :kiss:).

Number19
Sep 19th, 2011, 03:56 AM
Indoctrinated with Pentecostalism. Choose agnosticism.

Lord Choc Ice
Sep 19th, 2011, 04:07 AM
Christian but Agnostic.

Lefty.
Sep 19th, 2011, 04:22 AM
well it's complete true.
what explanation are you looking for?

Way to make a sweeping generalization of an entire group of people based off a few cases you see.

Ayumilover.
Sep 19th, 2011, 01:14 PM
I didn't make a generalization of all muslims, I made a generalization of the typical muslim at an American public school. There is quite a difference. Even Turkish people from Turkey don't like all Turkish-Germans as I have come to know.

I'm sure that many muslims are very smart, and work hard in their respective countries. But what I was pointing out is the muslims in my community, who also don't live in as near as nice neighborhoods as most other students, but still come to America with as much money as most other recent immigrants.

TheHangover
Sep 19th, 2011, 10:15 PM
atheist

dybbuk
Sep 19th, 2011, 10:30 PM
That's really so awesome. Christians and Asian groups get along very well with eachother everywhere because Asian men are known to work hard while Asian women tend to be very charming, fun, and pretty sexy. They integrate great, and everyone is extremely accepting.
The same cannot be said for muslims. There is not a single muslim girl at my school who doesn't wear a burqa (there are only about 5 muslims girls) and all of the muslim boys get really bad grades, and are super annoying and get in trouble all the time. It's the same in Germany, and I would know since i have connections to Germany. They are totally fine with Vietnamese people and bhuddist, but the islamic Turks..not at all.

This post is absolute one of the stupidest and most offensive things I've seen in a while. It's not even just the part about Muslims. It's the part where you basically trivialize Asian women by saying you accept them because they're sexy, as if they immigrated so you would have something good to look at. It's the part where you presume to know enough about Germany and the experience of German citizens of Turkish descent to make a sweeping statement about them. Then the Muslim part has already been responded to and I won't even touch.

Seriously, you just sound incredibly young and naive.

dybbuk
Sep 19th, 2011, 10:35 PM
As to the poll, I was raised Catholic and still attend Mass semi-regularly. I believe in God, but unfortunately I think the idea of God has become so distorted by the mainstream religions it's kind of hard for me to prescribe to one of them. I also read in Buddhism and Gnosticism, but I'm still learning about them and can't say I necessarily believe in either one.

Ayumilover.
Sep 19th, 2011, 10:40 PM
This post is absolute one of the stupidest and most offensive things I've seen in a while. It's not even just the part about Muslims. It's the part where you basically trivialize Asian women by saying you accept them because they're sexy, as if they immigrated so you would have something good to look at. It's the part where you presume to know enough about Germany and the experience of German citizens of Turkish descent to make a sweeping statement about them. Then the Muslim part has already been responded to and I won't even touch.

Seriously, you just sound incredibly young and naive.

OK. You can say what you want, and you don't have to agree, but most of the people in my community do agree. I would know about how it is in Germany as I have many connections there and my friends tell me how it is. In fact, my family knows a Turkish family that says they refuse to go to the western part of Germany for fears of not being accepted. So cleary, even they can feel that people are not happy about them. That particular family happen to be great people, but there is a reason why so many people in first world countries aren't exactly on the islamic bandwagon. Christians and muslims promote do share some smilarities, but the way they promote the religion is (in many cases) not one of them. Unlike many extreme muslims, christians don't have the intention to bomb out thousands of innocent lives, or even an entire country as does Islamic Republic of Iran who is capable of destroying Israel.

young_gunner913
Sep 19th, 2011, 10:52 PM
Still looking...
why is Judaism missing?

Thank you booboo. I mean really? :lol: Seeing who made the poll though, it doesn't suprise me.

Jewish here.

WhatTheDeuce
Sep 20th, 2011, 01:33 AM
I'm a Jew too. Fuck this poll.

mykarma
Sep 20th, 2011, 02:42 AM
I didn't make a generalization of all muslims, I made a generalization of the typical muslim at an American public school. There is quite a difference. Even Turkish people from Turkey don't like all Turkish-Germans as I have come to know.

I'm sure that many muslims are very smart, and work hard in their respective countries. But what I was pointing out is the muslims in my community, who also don't live in as near as nice neighborhoods as most other students, but still come to America with as much money as most other recent immigrants.
You've got five Muslim girls and less guys and you have the audacity to judge Muslims. Praise be if anyone judged Christianity based on the likes of you. :rolleyes: Since the Muslims live in your community I guess you don't live in a very nice neighborhood either. Using your logic there is no reason for any white American not to be rich and maybe other immigrants don't have to put up with the same racism that you deem on the Muslim immigrants.

You really need to be banned because it's obvious that you're to immature to post here. I truly feel sorry for the Muslims that go to yor school.

Ayumilover.
Sep 20th, 2011, 02:52 AM
You've got five Muslim girls and less guys and you have the audacity to judge Muslims. Praise be if anyone judged Christianity based on the likes of you. :rolleyes: Since the Muslims live in your community I guess you don't live in a very nice neighborhood either. Using your logic there is no reason for any white American not to be rich and maybe other immigrants don't have to put up with the same racism that you deem on the Muslim immigrants.

You really need to be banned because it's obvious that you're to immature to post here. I truly feel sorry for the Muslims that go to yor school.

I do to because they do nothing to bring themselves closer to the caucasian, and other students. We try helping but they just are always off in their own corner. There are about 7or8 muslim boys who do a lot more to integrate, but like i said, it doesn't help when they are getting arrested at age 16 for sexually harassing freshman girls. I am lucky to live in a well off community as most everyone who goes to my school does, including a few muslims who are much more westernized, and don't make their daughters where a hijab. The muslims that I referred to are likely amongst the poorest 10% at my school.

Temperenka
Sep 20th, 2011, 03:07 AM
OK. You can say what you want, and you don't have to agree, but most of the people in my community do agree. I would know about how it is in Germany as I have many connections there and my friends tell me how it is. In fact, my family knows a Turkish family that says they refuse to go to the western part of Germany for fears of not being accepted. So cleary, even they can feel that people are not happy about them. That particular family happen to be great people, but there is a reason why so many people in first world countries aren't exactly on the islamic bandwagon. Christians and muslims promote do share some smilarities, but the way they promote the religion is (in many cases) not one of them. Unlike many extreme muslims, christians don't have the intention to bomb out thousands of innocent lives, or even an entire country as does Islamic Republic of Iran who is capable of destroying Israel.

Kindly let me know what community you live in so that I know to steer clear of that area.

Thanks!

Otlichno
Sep 20th, 2011, 05:08 AM
Unlike many extreme muslims, christians don't have the intention to bomb out thousands of innocent lives, or even an entire country as does Islamic Republic of Iran who is capable of destroying Israel.

You did not just go there. :facepalm: I swear it would be so beneficial for you to actually look up some of the things you say on Google. A quick search on Google gave me this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism) which disproves what you just said. :wavey:

All Religions have "extremists" that have one way or another done terrible things to spread their idea about. Who are you to suddenly decide which religion does what when you obviously are as ignorant about these things as you possibly could be?

Tripp
Sep 20th, 2011, 05:31 AM
My mom's a catholic christian and my dad's a jew, and since none of them are much into religion they just let us decide wether we believe in God or not. So me and my brother are atheists and my sister's a jew. And I'm pretty glad with it.

InsideOut.
Sep 20th, 2011, 05:08 PM
OK. You can say what you want, and you don't have to agree, but most of the people in my community do agree. I would know about how it is in Germany as I have many connections there and my friends tell me how it is. In fact, my family knows a Turkish family that says they refuse to go to the western part of Germany for fears of not being accepted. So cleary, even they can feel that people are not happy about them. That particular family happen to be great people, but there is a reason why so many people in first world countries aren't exactly on the islamic bandwagon. Christians and muslims promote do share some smilarities, but the way they promote the religion is (in many cases) not one of them. Unlike many extreme muslims, christians don't have the intention to bomb out thousands of innocent lives, or even an entire country as does Islamic Republic of Iran who is capable of destroying Israel.

And you automatically assume that it's because they're Muslim? There can be so many reasons.

mykarma
Sep 20th, 2011, 11:18 PM
I do to because they do nothing to bring themselves closer to the caucasian, and other students. We try helping but they just are always off in their own corner. There are about 7or8 muslim boys who do a lot more to integrate, but like i said, it doesn't help when they are getting arrested at age 16 for sexually harassing freshman girls. I am lucky to live in a well off community as most everyone who goes to my school does, including a few muslims who are much more westernized, and don't make their daughters where a hijab. The muslims that I referred to are likely amongst the poorest 10% at my school.
You're to ignorant to respond to any longer. As a matter of fact, you're a disgusting bigot.

égalité
Sep 20th, 2011, 11:28 PM
OK. You can say what you want, and you don't have to agree, but most of the people in my community do agree. I would know about how it is in Germany as I have many connections there and my friends tell me how it is. In fact, my family knows a Turkish family that says they refuse to go to the western part of Germany for fears of not being accepted. So cleary, even they can feel that people are not happy about them. That particular family happen to be great people, but there is a reason why so many people in first world countries aren't exactly on the islamic bandwagon. Christians and muslims promote do share some smilarities, but the way they promote the religion is (in many cases) not one of them. Unlike many extreme muslims, christians don't have the intention to bomb out thousands of innocent lives, or even an entire country as does Islamic Republic of Iran who is capable of destroying Israel.

Islamic BANDWAGON???? Wow, I stand by my previous statement that you're not a crazy Christian. You're just a crazy person. Hopefully you'll grow out of this ridiculousness when you're, like, not in high school anymore. Generally, intelligent, mature adults don't form opinions of entire religions based on a few annoying people that they know personally.

And how insulting of you to trivialize the second most common religion on Earth by calling it a bandwagon!

Also if you're unaware of the hundreds of thousands of people who've been killed in the name of Christianity over the course of history, here are some good things for you to look up:

The Crusades
The Ku Klux Klan
Northern Ireland

Sean.
Sep 21st, 2011, 04:35 AM
Ayumilove, can I ask how old you are?

Martian Jeza
Sep 21st, 2011, 04:37 AM
Christian Catholic but I distance myself from the Vatican !