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Chris 84
Sep 7th, 2011, 02:57 PM
The whole squad was on board and there is only 1 survivor. Even he has been reported as dead on arrival at hospital, but that's not confirmed. This is an absolute tragedy :sad:

Several former NHL players on board as well as some youth players, coaches, etc, etc

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/08/world/europe/08russia.html

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/09/07/tradgedy-for-khl-team

horrific. i don't know what to say.


Here is the passenger list as translated from Russian and from another source:

Brad McCrimmon Head Coach

Head Coach Igor Korolev

Coach Alexander Karpovtsev

physical training coach Nikolai Krivonosov


Goalkeepers

Stefan Liv December 21, 1980

Alexander Vyuhin January 9, 1973

Defenders

Paul Tarkhanov March 21, 1978

Karel Rachunek August 27, 1979

Robert Dietrich, July 25, 1986

Ruslan Salei November 2, 1974

Karlis Skrastins July 9, 1974

Mikhail Balandin July 27, 1980

Vitaly Anikeenko January 2, 1987

Marat Kalimulin August 20, 1988

Yuri Urych April 3, 1991

Forwards

Alexander Galimov May 2, 1985

Daniel Sobchenko April 13, 1991

Jan Marek December 31, 1979

Daniel Erdakov June 4, 1989

Ivan Tkachenko, November 11, 1979

Alexander Vasyunov April 22, 1988

Gennady Churilov May 5, 1987

Nikita Klyukin November 10, 1989

Alexander Kalyanin September 24, 1987

Sergey Ostapchuk March 19, 1990

Pavol Demitra November 29, 1974

Joseph Vašček September 12, 1980

Artem Yarchuk May 3, 1990

Alexander Romanovsky June 8, 1987

Andrew Kiryukhin August 4, 1987

Crew

Commander - Solomentsev Andrey

The co-pilot - Zhevelov Igor K.

Flight engineer - Sergey V. Zhuravlev

Stewardess Formatova Helena

Stewardess Maksumova Hope

Stewardess Muzafarovna

Stewardess Shalina

Flight engineers Matyushkin

Sizov Flight Engineer Alexander B.

KournikovaFan91
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:00 PM
This is so sad :sad:

tennisbum79
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:05 PM
So sad.

This has also happened to an African football team few years back

ElusiveChanteuse
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:09 PM
:speakles: How did it happen? Any storm when they flew?

ElusiveChanteuse
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:09 PM
:speakles: How did it happen? Any storm when they flew?

Chris 84
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:12 PM
:speakles: How did it happen? Any storm when they flew?

cause unknown as yet.
burst into flames shortly after take-off.

Milito22
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:13 PM
:sad: RIP

penkku
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:18 PM
R.I.P.

Seems like it collided with the radio mast after failing to gain proper altitude :sad:

Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sanomat says that Jorma Valtonen, the goalkeeping coach was not in the plane!

tennislover
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:21 PM
RIP :sad:

Chris 84
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:21 PM
R.I.P.

Seems like it collided with the radio mast after failing to gain proper altitude :sad:

Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sanomat says that Jorma Valtonen, the goalkeeping coach was not in the plane!

yeah, i just saw that.
seems valtonen was not on board, thankfully for him.

Mistress of Evil
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:27 PM
What a tragedy :speakles: RIP :awww:

Super Dave
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Their head coach, Brad McCrimmon, had just left the Detroit Red Wings' assistant coach position to take that job. A couple of former Detroit players, Ruslan Salei and Stefan Liv, were also killed. It appears the type of plane used was old and plagued with problems and was going to be taken out of service next year. :sad:

penkku
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:36 PM
2 survivors according to LifeNews site: 1 Russian player and 1 airhostess/stewardess, hope that's true :shrug:

tennisbum79
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:38 PM
This is so tragic.

hablo
Sep 7th, 2011, 03:57 PM
So sad. RIP

:sad:

CWTennis
Sep 7th, 2011, 04:33 PM
So sad! :sad:
Karli Skrastin :sad: You'll be missed! :sad::sad::sad:
RIP!

SloKid
Sep 7th, 2011, 05:47 PM
Absolute tragedy. :sad:
2 survivors according to LifeNews site: 1 Russian player and 1 airhostess/stewardess, hope that's true :shrug:
Well the player is Alexander Galimov, who is being treated for very serious injuries and is in very poor shape, 90% of his body burnt, internal injuries etc. :(

SVK
Sep 7th, 2011, 05:56 PM
They all were still so young, this is very sad, RIP:(:(:(

:hug: especially to their families :awww:

Meelis
Sep 7th, 2011, 06:28 PM
Well the player is Alexander Galimov, who is being treated for very serious injuries and is in very poor shape, 90% of his body burnt, internal injuries etc. :(

He died too :(

edit: Or not? Conflicting reports.

Emrys
Sep 7th, 2011, 06:36 PM
Pavol Demitra :sad:
I always watched Minnesota to see him and Gaborik play few years ago , he was such a good player :sobbing:

SloKid
Sep 7th, 2011, 06:43 PM
He died too :(

edit: Or not? Conflicting reports.
There's been quite a lot of that going on today, but it seems that he's still alive:

Doctor: "Galimov is alive and will be alive short-term, at least. His condition extremely critical. Had several surgeries"
http://twitter.com/#!/SlavaMalamud/status/111508683942408193

And the other survivor:
Doc: "Sizov's (flight attendant) condition better. 10-15% burns, hip trauma, broken bone at the base of the skull, shock."
http://twitter.com/#!/SlavaMalamud/status/111509210394656768

fifty-fifty
Sep 7th, 2011, 07:15 PM
:sad::sad::sad:

Sammo
Sep 7th, 2011, 07:53 PM
That really is a tragedy. Rest in peace.

Brena
Sep 7th, 2011, 08:14 PM
Horrible. Poor people. :sad:

FORZA SARITA
Sep 7th, 2011, 08:29 PM
RIP :awww:

pierce85
Sep 7th, 2011, 09:14 PM
Which airline was it can someone confirm?

hellas719
Sep 8th, 2011, 02:56 AM
^Yak-Service ;)

RIP to all the victims :sad:
My thoughts and prayers go out to their friends and families :hug:

Azarenka and An.Rodionova tweeted about this (and I'm sure other players did too, I just didn't check them) :awww:

I had heard of Pavol Demitra before :speakles::sobbing:. RIP :(

Williamsser
Sep 8th, 2011, 08:24 AM
R I P

CillyUltra
Sep 8th, 2011, 02:26 PM
:sad:

Robert Dietrich :sad:

Ashi
Sep 9th, 2011, 04:55 AM
RIP :crying2:

VeeJJ
Sep 9th, 2011, 05:23 AM
the first thing i thought about was lena's hubby! :sad:

NoppaNoppa
Sep 9th, 2011, 03:04 PM
Of the team only one is still alive. Galimov.
Team promo released on 4th. Galimov scores at 59.55, last thing you see.

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Galimov is still alive. Chances that he survives are still slim. About 20% = same as Wozniacki beating SWilliams. I read that in his condition, of 80% burned, critical days are days three and four. If he makes it past them survival rate increases to about 90%. So... odds are that he dies in two days :sad: :help:

Sammo
Sep 9th, 2011, 03:21 PM
And how about the stewardess?

NoppaNoppa
Sep 9th, 2011, 03:23 PM
And how about the stewardess?

Not on my radar. But from hat. I say he has 80% chance of survival.

NoppaNoppa
Sep 9th, 2011, 03:30 PM
MUST add that Galimov is practically dead. Only handfull of people have survived such injuries worldwide. When announcement comes. Please dont blame doctors of shitty job. Mkay.

SloKid
Sep 9th, 2011, 03:40 PM
And how about the stewardess?
It's actually a male steward.

Sammo
Sep 9th, 2011, 03:58 PM
Ah, by the way I just saw Galimov photos, his face looks like a good man's :sad:

Please someone tell me he was a raper or something like that I can't stand good people dying :hysteric:

Sammo
Sep 9th, 2011, 04:00 PM
5:13 p.m.
Locomotiv forward Alexander Galimov's condition is stable, said Valery Kubyshkin, director of the Vishnyevsky Surgical Institute.


Read more: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/news-feed-lokomotiv-yaroslavl-plane-crash/443431.html#ixzz1XTIdQOxu
The Moscow Times


How is he practically dead if his condition is stable?

NoppaNoppa
Sep 9th, 2011, 04:16 PM
How is he practically dead if his condition is stable?

He is in medical coma.

edit: comparables. F1 driver Mika Hakkinen was kept in medical coma for 7 days after his crash in Australia.

Sammo
Sep 9th, 2011, 04:18 PM
Ah...

NoppaNoppa
Sep 9th, 2011, 04:20 PM
Coma is good.

Sammo
Sep 9th, 2011, 04:42 PM
I know.


Hoping for a miracolous (is it even written that way?) recovery.

NoppaNoppa
Sep 9th, 2011, 04:55 PM
For comparison.

Timo Kaukonen 72% burn survivor. Skip to 2:05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8642tag4o8I

edit: Heat was serious. His opponent died on sight.
edit2: interview was made month after incident. He was in medical coma for three weeks.

Sammo
Sep 9th, 2011, 04:58 PM
But Galimov's body is 80 or 90? I've heard both stories...

NoppaNoppa
Sep 9th, 2011, 05:21 PM
Galimov must be made immideate lung transplant.

If ok, he might make it. Odds are still against :(

NoppaNoppa
Sep 9th, 2011, 05:24 PM
But Galimov's body is 80 or 90? I've heard both stories...

Anything over 70 is practically dead.

NoppaNoppa
Sep 9th, 2011, 07:57 PM
Media will try to make news of Galimov being in coma.

I say. He is being kept in coma for at least a week. In other words, condition remains stable.

There are words that his skin is 80 to 90% gone. I do not believe that.
If one can speak to relatives, as reported befote putting him to coma. Also reports say that two survivors saved themselves from river Volga. Nobody with 80-90% burns is able to do such feat. My quess is that Galimovs condition might be lot better than told. Still horribe, but maybe not life threatening. Still need some serious surgery for upper body, but 40-50% of skin gone is 90% survivable.
Im optimistic :bounce:

Sammo
Sep 9th, 2011, 08:38 PM
I'd love to see him survive. He seems like a nice guy.

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Sep/Week2/16065136.jpg


I once was told that the problem about getting your body burn isn't the burns themselves, it's that they get infected very easily.

NoppaNoppa
Sep 12th, 2011, 07:19 AM
Russia Today (http://rt.com/news/line/2011-09-12/#id18033)

Russian crash-survivor hockey player dies :mad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Ice hockey forward Aleksandr Galimov one of the two survivors of plane crash in Central Russia last week has died on Monday, Vesti 24 TV station reports. He sustained burns to almost 90 per cent of his body and remained in a critical condition since Wednesday. His death brings the total number of people killed when the Yakovlev Yak-42 plane crashed just after taking off from airport in Yaroslavl to 44. Almost the entire Lokomotiv Yaroslavl ice hockey team was on board. Flight engineer Aleksandr Sizov is now the sole survivor of the crash. He is still in a serious condition in a Moscow hospital.

Sizovs chances should be pretty good. Hope media keeps updating his progress, though that might be medical coma for couple more weeks.

Chris 84
Sep 12th, 2011, 11:31 AM
rip galimov

Keegan
Sep 12th, 2011, 02:36 PM
R.I.P Galimov. Such a tragic thing to happen, and a tragic way to die.

NoppaNoppa
Sep 12th, 2011, 04:07 PM
Yahoo Hockey (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Lokomotiv-8217-s-Alexander-Galimov-dies-from-pl;_ylt=AmOBNLio_kqjkj2dJR5ohi97vLYF?urn=nhl-wp12347)

Andrei Alexeev, Head of the Vishnevsky hospital

"The chances to save Galimov were minimum from the very beginning. He was conscious only in the first few hours after the crash. This is possible even with the severest of burns due to the shock the victim was in. During the transfer to Moscow Galimov was put in a medically induced coma. That was it is easier to perform the mechanical ventilation and to maintain other internal organs.

"We were fighting for him to the end. We were hoping that the strong athletic body would nevertheless be able to survive, but he died today without regaining consciousness. His wife visited him on Sunday. She whispered something in his ear. I hope he felt it." :awww:


The other survivor, crew member Alexander Sizov, has been transferred from the Intensive Care Unit to a hospital room. Doctors say his life is no longer in danger. :D In the coming days he will meet with investigators about the crash.

rucolo
Sep 15th, 2011, 06:37 PM
So sad :sad:

Sammo
Sep 15th, 2011, 07:55 PM
Rest in Peace Alexander Galimov :sad:

Crazy Canuck
Sep 15th, 2011, 09:42 PM
I'm late to this thread, but yes... terrible. Worst day for hockey ever. Still going to some KHL games this year, but won't be the same.

King Halep
Sep 15th, 2011, 10:17 PM
Crazy Canuck Can you go to the games where Dementieva is attending and get us some pictures, thanks

NoppaNoppa
Sep 16th, 2011, 01:02 PM
Reasons suggested. Human error (plausible), mechanical failure (likely reasonable), sabotage (very unlikely).

My take is that brakes were for some reason on. Combined human error and mechanical failure. Event that even seasoned pilot had no idea what to do. Pilot had 6500 flight hours(!) Co-pilot had 16000(!!) flight hours.

I have understood that those things lift off at about 600-700 Km/h. There is "point of no return point" meaning plane hits some speed vs. runaway lenght. Only option is to pull up. Putting myself into captains position, with zero knowledge, normal reaction would indeed be to pull up. Option. Horrible crash to the woods. That option is visible.

What I have read of causes, no matter what happened after plane leaved ground. It was bound to come down. In minutes. If it had gained any more air (quessing 100 feet), Sizov would be dead as well.

Terrible thing. Trying to find positive from negative. This united hockey world enourmesly.
We are small community.

This clip should be most viewed hockey video ever. Season promo. Uploaded 4th of September. Two days before the...

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Of respect. Czech national team froze numbers. Rachunek #4, Marek #15 and Vasicek #63
I say that many, many other of crash victims are getting same honour. Demitra 100%. Skrastins 100%...

How can these guys be gone?!?!? :sad:

NoppaNoppa
Sep 16th, 2011, 01:20 PM
As much I hate dictatorships. One thing they do better than democrasies. Memorials.

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