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williamsfan
Nov 8th, 2002, 01:38 PM
I think back to New York or Florida were tennis is a hot-bed for tennis.

gopher
Nov 8th, 2002, 10:40 PM
Bring the Championships to Belgium.

venusfan
Nov 8th, 2002, 10:44 PM
I say cut the price of admissions for early rounds until the semi's.. I've seen tier III events with better attendance in the early rounds.

oggie
Nov 8th, 2002, 10:46 PM
They have to promote the tournament more. This is the first time that this tournament is being played here at this time, and people are not used to attending it or don't even know about it.

Monica@53
Nov 8th, 2002, 11:15 PM
How much are the ticket prices anyway?

mn73
Nov 8th, 2002, 11:21 PM
Smaller venue - that way it will fill up!

Or BRING IT TO LONDON!!! :)

JCFan
Nov 9th, 2002, 12:25 AM
Better promotion with some ads or commercials or something to let people know it's going on. Has there been any advertising anywhere in LA? Definitely lower ticket prices, specials for weekdays, free tickets for groups, or group specials. And lastly, a better web site wouldn't hurt. Basically the main problem is ticket prices IMO. I've never been to a tennis event, but I think the price here is $60+ for somewhat close seats (1 session), and that seems a bit steep for me.

cireewol
Nov 9th, 2002, 12:26 AM
Number 1, you've got to put the word out early that the tour is heading to LA! Having a few players to come out a week or two early will not do it! You've got to advertise on TV; do radio spots; and the like!

Number 2, the early rounds match, during school months, have got to offer lower prices. You can not expect reasonable adults to pay upwards of 70 dollars (For good seats) for a match that, not only will be shown on tv, but also on the big screens outside of the Staple Center.

There is no rhyme or reason that an event in Southern California - with a population of 15 million people - should not be able to respond to this event. LA can support this event!

LeonHart
Nov 9th, 2002, 12:36 AM
LoL, i live in LA, and not many people are into tennis here. People are probably too busy saving money for Lakers/Clipper tickets than Home Depot Championships. http://www.smilies.nl/yellows/unhappy.gif

wongqks
Nov 9th, 2002, 12:41 AM
move all the people who bought tickets to the best possible seat and sell the rest of the tickets at 10 $ each, you rather have some revenue tan seeing empty stands, it is depressing, and I bet it is depressing fro players as well, look at the standad of play in day session for all the three days

cireewol
Nov 9th, 2002, 12:47 AM
From a business perspective, the local crowds are only a small part of the revenue. The REAL money comes from TV rights and corporate sponsorship (The reason the most NFL teams are successful). The Tour will still make a hugh profit!

Interestingly, you like to have a full house when you are showcasing your sport in front of the world! It's hard to explain the lack of interest when SOOOO many top players are American (Davenport, Serena & Venus have roots in LA).

Personally, i've always thought that Montreal or Toronto would be excellent choices for the event! Those 2 cities absolutely adore tennis. Hey, the cost of would be less (the American dollar is worth more) and the trip isn't that costly!

2284
Nov 9th, 2002, 12:51 AM
1. Move the Championships to Australia or Europe
2. Make the Men's championships @ the same time, in the same venue (this would probably help to ATP more than the WTA, but it would still get more bums in the seats)
3. Decrease ticket prices

LeonHart
Nov 9th, 2002, 12:54 AM
http://www.smilies.nl/eek2.gif All those may be right!

Persian
Nov 9th, 2002, 12:57 AM
1) Move it to Europe again
2) Decrease ticket prices so everyone can afford it
3) Again make the mens end of year at the same venue (thus will boost more people to watch both sexes)
4)
5) Allocate seating plans, best seats cost more, and other seats less
6) Advertise, Advertise, Advertise
7) Take door ticket sales

xan
Nov 9th, 2002, 01:42 AM
People need to be made to realise that this is an important championship.

Perhaps the winner should receive a title that they could hang on to all year such as "WTA Tour Champion 200x", and the title should be promoted by the WTA throughout the year. The winner should be introduced at all tournaments under this title. Just as the computer "No 1" is always referred to as such.

fan of Jana
Nov 9th, 2002, 02:37 AM
At least, big crowd in the stands for Monica vs. Venus!

PhoenixStorm
Nov 9th, 2002, 02:50 AM
Reduce ticket prices
start play earlier in the week monday
offer tickets to colleges in the area
increase marketing coverage
increase player participation in marketing

Shooter
Nov 9th, 2002, 03:04 AM
I just spoke to someone who said she tried to buy good seats from ticketmaster weeks ago for the first day session and was told that the highest price seats were sold out! Could that be possible? Could it be that ticketmaster was given a small allotment of the $100 seats and sold them out? Something is not right here?

sailntiger
Nov 9th, 2002, 03:12 AM
:kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: BETTER PROMOTION AND ANNOUNCE WAY AHEAD OF TIME THAT JUSTINE HENIN WILL BE THERE!!!!!! :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:




;) :D :p :bounce: :wavey:ALLEZ JUJU :wavey: :bounce: :p :D :)

darren cahill
Nov 9th, 2002, 06:33 PM
my 2 cents....I think the season finale was always at its best in new york. New York (as far i as I know) only has 1 event all year, the US open. And California has Indian Wells in the spring and then 3 more events in the summer and now this? Well i love tennis as much as anyone else on here but i wouldnt care to go to 5 events in such a short time period. Plus the season really is too damn long. If the players are tired, maybe thats the publics problem too? Who really cares after the US open anyways? Attendance is pathetic and i cant imagine the ratings will be all that great either with so many of the matches either on early afternoon (like 3pm on the east coast for the 1st match) and midnight for the headline match. What was anyone thinking leaving New york? I went to Madison Square Garden in 1992 and saw Lori McNeil beat Steffi Graf in the FIRST ROUND 76 64 and the place was PACKED to the rafters. I mean it was like the final of the US open and this was a Tuesday night and only the first round. That match last night with Venus looked well attended but its cause everyone was squeezed down to the lower seats. hard to believe new york only has the one event for women...it should go back to the garden.

bobcat
Nov 9th, 2002, 06:43 PM
While NYC was best, I think LA can work out if they stick to it for a few years. Last night's attendance was ok, and there are still 2 more qf sessions to go in addition to the semis and finals. If the crowds continue to build the arena should be pretty full for Sunday and Monday.

tennis_pIayer
Nov 9th, 2002, 07:59 PM
the prices are way too high

Hurley
Nov 9th, 2002, 08:35 PM
Move it outdoors, and put more than two matches in a session.

If they keep it indoors...eradicate day sessions. Then if they keep a 16-player field, extend it to two weeks. If they want to keep it in one week, cut the field to 12 or 10.

cireewol
Nov 9th, 2002, 10:37 PM
I agree that LA can support the event! After the debacle of this year, I'll bet that the remainding years have much higher support.

Since it appears that we are heading towards a Jennifer vs. Serena semi-final (the best Rivalry in the sport) I'd venture to say that the sunday's showing will bring nearly a full house! Kim vs. Venus is a wonderful match up, too!

Moving forward, the tour needs to take a lesson from the ATP: start advertising Eaaaaarly in the year!

Uxobi
Nov 9th, 2002, 11:26 PM
$10.00 general admission would do the trick.

Simplify
Nov 9th, 2002, 11:44 PM
Give Anna K. a wildcard!;)

Jem
Nov 10th, 2002, 01:46 AM
My two cents -- I don't think women's tennis has been very good this year. The quality of play has been abysmal -- it's not the fact that they're hitting so hard, but that they're making so many errors. Until the Monica-Venus match, every match I saw on TV was horendous in LA. And on top of that, the women have provided very few dramatics this year, aside from the Australian Open. The other Grand Slams were downright boring for the women, save for a couple of matches here and there. So I think part of the problem with LA could be a cumulative effect. Maybe, too, the LA market is saturated with tennis events. Couple burnout with high prices, and you get empty seats.

Volcana
Nov 10th, 2002, 01:52 AM
free cocaine

Brian Stewart
Nov 10th, 2002, 09:35 AM
If they're going to keep it in LA some changes have to be made. Although the return of a Philadelphia runup will help, the tournament can do some things on its own.

1) redo the ticket prices scheme. As I've always said, better to have a seat filled for $5 than empty for $10.

2) this is one that all tournaments should do-- redo the automatic ticket allocation for event sponsors. As it currently stands, the sponsors get the courtside box seats, but rarely use them before the semis at least. So restructure the sponsorship deal so that they get use of those boxes for the semis and finals, and open up the seats for sale the rest of the week. Even if they slightly reduce what money they receive from sponsors, they'll make it up with ticket sales. (The exact details can be adjusted as needs. FE- to include a quarterfinal night session in the sponsor package.) How many times have you watched a match on TV, and 90% of the stands are full, except for near-empty sponsor boxes? It gives a false bad impression for TV.

3) keep a running "Race to the championships" board at the venue all season, or at least from the end of the Australian Open onwards. The standings would be updated weekly, with notation once a player has qualified. Everyone who visited the arena between January and the Championships would see the board at least once.

4) sponsor weekly updates on SportsCenter (Sunday night or Monday) and in USA Today (Monday or Tuesday), at least from the end of the US Open onward, and perhaps at least a monthly update before that.

5) perhaps a contest or so. "Guess who will be in the Championships". Singles and doubles. Tiebreakers would be who guesses the most players in the correct Race position. Entries close at the US open.

6) tie in to the history of the tour and this event. MSG started something by raising a banner for prominent retirees. Have a "Hall of Fame" exhibit at the Arena for the month leading up to the tournament. Give past greats a banner in the rafters during an on-court ceremony.

7) I like the idea of a heavily-hyped "WTA Tour Champion" award for the champions in singles and doubles. Give it some prestige. Maybe throw in some perks. Winners get to go to Disneyland, or Hawaii, or something. Perhaps a big celebratory to-do on Leno's show. And perhaps the champions would be allowed to wear a big patch on their outfits designating them as the reigning "WTA Tour (Singles/Doubles) Champion". (The tennis equivalent of the TDF's yellow jersey.) And maybe even make the award ceremonies a bigger deal, airing on some TV channel (such as E!, if the regular one doesn't want to carry it). Have the champions literally be crowned.

I'll try to think of some more later. Perhaps when we've finished, we could direct the tourney promoters to this thread.

Mattographer
Nov 10th, 2002, 10:26 AM
Rename the event because most people didn't know the Home Depot Championships presented by Porsche is the WTA Masters :rolleyes: Just called it "Masters Cup" or something like that so, people would going the event.

bee
Nov 10th, 2002, 11:35 AM
if its free .... pretty sure the place would be filled with people..
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TheBoiledEgg
Nov 10th, 2002, 11:45 AM
the name of the event sux big time

WTF is the Home Depot Champs ?????????

everyone knows the Tennis Masters Cup and thats not got a fancy shitty name.

Simplify
Nov 10th, 2002, 11:07 PM
As far as the name, how 'bout simply: The WTA Championships?

EVAspeed
Nov 11th, 2002, 05:53 AM
i live 20 mins. away from the staples center...

reason why i didn't go?...

i didn't have enough info about the tourney... i watch a decent amount of TV and i didn't even see one commercial about it coming up...

and now it's finished... whatever... dani didn't get far, huh?... :sad:

Brian Stewart
Nov 12th, 2002, 07:08 AM
Well, the buzz is they're planning on doing away with weekday afternoon sessions. That's possible, if they start on the first Monday. The Wednesday afternoon session goes to Monday evening, Wednesday evening goes to Tuesday evening, Thursday afternoon goes to Wednesday evening, and the Friday afternoon singles goes to Friday evening. They could start the doubles earlier in the week, and spread them out, pending who's involved. If the players form regular partnerships next year, there's a good chance that some others with be involved in the doubles Championship (such as Hingis, Davenport, Rubin, WilliamsX2 if they play enough, Dokic). Or they could have one doubles match in the Friday evening session, and 2 in the Saturday afteroon session, and the rest as this year.

Candy946
Nov 12th, 2002, 02:07 PM
They just need to advertise it more. When I bought the tickets, even the lady who was selling the tickets at ticket master didn't know what event the WTA Championships were :rolleyes:. I saw a small, really small ad in their brochure, but like who's going to notice that? And it's so expensive to go because unlike Indian Wells and Acura Classic, people only get to watch 1 singles and 1 doubles match. I only went to semi-finals cuz there were 2 singles(but unfortunitely, Venus pulled out) and 2 doubles.

Candy946
Nov 12th, 2002, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by TheBoiledEgg
the name of the event sux big time

WTF is the Home Depot Champs ?????????

everyone knows the Tennis Masters Cup and thats not got a fancy shitty name.
Well HomeDepot is sponsoring the event or at least some of it, so it is only fair to name it.

patricio
Nov 13th, 2002, 01:35 AM
Move it back to the Madison, that is the classic Women's Masters Championships.

If you move it to Europe probably some of the best American players wont go, say Jennifer Venus Serena Monica or Lindsay. If you dont have them you have nothing.

NYC is the best choice for this

Mattographer
Nov 13th, 2002, 06:50 AM
BRING IT BACK TO MADISON SQUARE GARDEN!! :fiery:

2284
Nov 13th, 2002, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Brian Stewart
If they're going to keep it in LA some changes have to be made. Although the return of a Philadelphia runup will help, the tournament can do some things on its own.


3) keep a running "Race to the championships" board at the venue all season, or at least from the end of the Australian Open onwards. The standings would be updated weekly, with notation once a player has qualified. Everyone who visited the arena between January and the Championships would see the board at least once.

Great idea!