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rhz
Nov 8th, 2002, 07:05 AM
well Tanasugarn is dropping in the ranking, Tulyaganova too Sugiyama is hanging in there, Widjaja lost a lot of points and end up in the 90's(not including Pattaya though)

but we have Cho, Asagoe, Widjaja in the top 100. Lee/Prakusya and Sugiyama/Fujiwara in the final championship... but in general, is it a good or bad year for Asian players??

kfh_9118
Nov 8th, 2002, 10:07 AM
Good for some players, not the others :) (very obvious answer)

Very good results: Cho (definitely), Paradorn (no doubt), Ai/Fujiwara
Good results: Sugiyama, Widjaja, Morigami, Prakusya/Lee, Asagoe
Not really improving: Tulyaganova, Prakusya, Tanasugarn, Jeon
Bad year: Hsieh (definitely), Lee (both Janet and Hyung Taik)

:wavey:

Steveg
Nov 8th, 2002, 12:06 PM
Mi-Ra Jeon started the year ranked #249 and is now #137. That is not too bad actually, is it :confused: .

She has also participated for the first time in many years to Grand Slam event and even qualified for the main draw at the US Open.

I would therefore rather say that this year has been good for her :) .

köj-è
Nov 8th, 2002, 02:09 PM
It's Average! :o

Steveg
Nov 8th, 2002, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Kojangs
It's Average! :o I guess we do not have the same definition of good and average then ;) .

I consider it a good year in view of the progress she has made.

Maybe you call it average given Mi-Ra potential ;) .

Rising Sun
Nov 8th, 2002, 03:39 PM
2002 has been Mi-Ra's best year. :D

Of course, it generally depends on which player in response to the topic question. ;)

köj-è
Nov 8th, 2002, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Steveg
I guess we do not have the same definition of good and average then ;) .

I consider it a good year in view of the progress she has made.

Maybe you call it average given Mi-Ra potential ;) .

I'm not saying It's average for Mi-Ra, her result is very good,
I mean it's Average to all asian players! :)

kfh_9118
Nov 9th, 2002, 03:31 AM
I didn't mean to say Mi Ra doesn't have a good result, my definition of "not really improving" really means that I think those players could have gained a better results than they did now. Eg. Tammy, I think has a potential to win her first title this year, but she didn't (hopefully next year), Prakusya (we know she doesn't has a good year, and I hope she could do better than that)...... Tulyaganova (not as good as last year), and Mi Ra, although her ranking had been improving a lot, but considering her potential and she didn't has a lot of points to defend this year, I really expect her to reach at least Top 110 this year....

But again, we all have our own opinions, and really, I hope Mi Ra and all Asian players will have a better results next year.

My wishes next year:
* Tammy and Wynne won their first title in 2003.
* Cho, Angie, Ai could maintain or improve their performance (by defending all their points this year)
* Mi Ra to be Top 80 player.
* Paradorn to be Top 10 player.
* Janet & Hsieh for best results
* Chinese players to participate more on WTA Tour.
* One of Asian female players (Iroda, Tammy, or Ai) could become Top 10 player :)

:wavey:

Steveg
Nov 9th, 2002, 04:19 AM
Mi-Ra will still be playing a couple of tournaments this year :) . The season is not over yet ;) .

She has also SF points at the Queen's Cup ($25K) to defend :( .

niratti
Nov 10th, 2002, 11:12 AM
i think it's fair year for Asian in WTA tour.

Unfortunate that Tammy didn't play well in the 2nd half of the year compared with the first half that made she craked the top 20 for the first time.

Ai is consistant in the tour, not so well but not too bad. Iroda had a big drop this year. In general, Asians player had done better in double.

Rising Sun
Nov 10th, 2002, 11:31 AM
Actually, Mi-Ra lost in the 2nd rd of the Queen's Cup last year. ;)

Here are Mi-Ra's final results from last year:

$25K Port Pirie, AUS: 1st Rd (lost to Dessislava Topalova)
$25K Nuriootpa, AUS: 2nd Rd (lost to Christina Wheeler)
$25K Mount Gambier, AUS: QF (lost to Dessislava Topalova)
$25K Nonthaburi, THA: 2nd Rd (lost to Marina Caiazzo)

Phoenix
Nov 10th, 2002, 12:11 PM
hope your wish come true kfh... :D

Steveg
Nov 10th, 2002, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by danker
Actually, Mi-Ra lost in the 2nd rd of the Queen's Cup last year. ;) Thanks for the correction Luke. Should not have trusted Stéphanie on Mi-Ra performance at the Queen's Cup and checked by myself ;) .

Eric_tennis
Nov 11th, 2002, 03:59 AM
Thanks for the support for Mi-ra! :D

Next year will be very important for her,.... she's improved her ranking to enter low Tier event's qualy,...so let's see how she's doing in WTA tour events next year.

This year, Mi-ra had some good memories ( first challenger victory, some good result from challengers in April and May, US open maindraw) and bad memories ( critics from AG game loss with cramping along with teammate YJ Cho ( both cramped when they were leading in 3rd set :eek: ), some injuries, critics from SF in Seoul, some bad scheduling to her...etc ).
Recent good run of YJ Cho, her lone teammate, would be big pressure as well as motivation.

Anyway,.. Go, Mi-ra!
:bounce:

Steveg
Nov 11th, 2002, 06:43 AM
Talking or Yoon-Jeong, I read that she had had a knee injury right at the beginning of her match against Angelique Widjaja.

Eric, have you read recently any news about her condition? Knee injuries can be very bad and take a lot of time to heal :sad: .

King Aaron
Nov 11th, 2002, 01:04 PM
Lindsay is a good example :(

niratti
Nov 11th, 2002, 05:13 PM
but i don't think her knee is in a serious condition as Lindsay's last year!! Hope she will get well sone.

Eric_tennis
Nov 11th, 2002, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Steveg
Eric, have you read recently any news about her condition? Knee injuries can be very bad and take a lot of time to heal :sad: .

I don't know much about that. I just read that she aggrevated her left knee injury during the final match. She knew she was injured before the final match,.. but who would give up her very first tour final without a try?

Fortunately, she will have enough time for recovery cause it's season ending time. She got finalist point in Pattaya so she can give up 2 or 3 25K challenger events for the rest of this year. And their team has withdrawn from the National Olympic games(domestic game) yesterday.

Greenout
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:20 AM
I thought it was a pretty good year. There were actual
televised matches featuring Cho, and Angie at the US Open.
There were more Asians in the draws than previous years.
Ai, Tammy, and Iroda may have had bad matches- but
there alot of new faces that make things interesting.

I like the fact that an Asian in the draw doesn't always
equate an easy cake walk anymore. I know alot of people
think they're pushovers such as the French, and Australians-
but it just isn't the case anymore.

As I said in a previous post somewhere in this website-
the new great tennis players of the future won't come
from the old strong hold of English speaking Western
countries anymore. Forget about the USA- are there any
good players after the Sisters? Australia? HA!! England?
Ha!! HA!! South Africa? HA!! HA!!

The best players will come from elsewhere. Look at Eleni D
the Greek. Is there anybody in the USA at that potential
right now? NO! The tour will have more diverse countries
represented than ever. Asia hasn't even touched the surface
in potential WTA tour candidates yet.

Benny
Nov 15th, 2002, 06:12 AM
I think you could describe Tammy's season as great in the first half, getting to #19 in the world, but just average in the second half.
Ai had a bit of a mixed season, but won some good matches.
Iroda aswell could be described as a mixed season, loosing to players you woudn't think she would lose to at all, then she gives Tammy a lesson 6-1 6-3.
Cho had a really good season and will probaly keep improving.
Widjaja had a pretty good year with a title win and should be happy with that:)

V.Melb
Nov 15th, 2002, 06:20 AM
"I like the fact that an Asian in the draw doesn't always
equate an easy cake walk anymore. I know alot of people
think they're pushovers such as the French, and Australians-
but it just in the case anymore. "

I agree with that concept very much. Facing Tammy, Ai, Angie ---- or even Cho and Prakusya are BAD draws for the players of other nations.

Smashnova, Barna, Suarez, Serna, STEVENSON, MYSKINA and Chladkova are just some of the western and euro players that have fallen to asian players in the slams. Prakusya always seems to give her opponent rotten hell before she goes down in a slam. She fights to the death! Sugiyama took Seles to three.... Cho took Seles to 3 in a brilliant match.
Capriati was beaten by Sugiyama .... Tanasugarn took Jenn to 3.
Angie Widjaja takes another title beating Panova.
Cho shows equal consistency and determination in beating very talented an powerful Krasnoroutskaya..... also Cho beat ultra talented french Bartoli this year.
Prakusya has no yet utilised all her potential.... but has kept a winning record in singles this year.
Tammy makes 4th round Wimby again ... aslo 3rd round at the french! Jie Zhengs ranking has risen. there is generally a density of asian players in slams that we haven't seen for a while...Obata's ranking has risen despite some inconsistent losses.
I think the year has not been great for many individual players....but great for asian women in general.


And Paradorn - don't get me started! hes on fire!