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fouc
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:49 PM
for the sake of fuck, wut a fuckery :sobbing: haven't seen such a ridiculous choking in ages

moodin0931
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:50 PM
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! :D:D

doomsday
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:50 PM
Overrated Li, take Na goat with you and leaave New Haven:wavey:

MBM
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:50 PM
wow

dsanders06
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:50 PM
I cannot :crying2:

Jane Lane
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
PETRAAAA! :banana: First WTA final ever :)

Don't forget you have a job to do in NY though ;)

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
omg WTF
but Petra really deserved that
should have won alot earlier but PHEW

Petra :inlove: :hearts: :D

nevetssllim
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
Pretty Petra :cheer: :hearts:

Antoshka
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
Li :help:

SAISAI-GOAT
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
:tape:

congrats Princess Karolina on winning New Haven again :dance:

sunyafei
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
This is by far the worst match I've ever seen.

Zhao
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
another slump player saved! after Lisicki and Stosur...

goldenlox
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
You had to see this match to believe it. Cetkovska looked exhausted, and the level of play would change drastically from 1 point to the next

LadyB
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
Flaw free future queen of tennis beautiful princess of the world Petra :inlove:

Na na find your form at the us!! :hug:

Molok
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:51 PM
thrilling finish, good for Petra :)

Shinjiro
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:52 PM
:worship:

vozas
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:52 PM
So much choking I can't...

Li really has to get her shit together. She's not going far in NY playing like this.

tennisbum79
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:52 PM
Congrats to Petra. She could have won in straight sets

Li Na needs to up her mind game.
She is GS champion now, lot more is expected of her

Marionated
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:52 PM
Petra's defense in the tie-break was incredible, but she really made this one hard for herself :tape: I can't see her holding her nerve in the final.

Na :hug: too many errors.

TheHangover
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:52 PM
:sobbing::sobbing: i'm so happy for petra, hope she wins her first tournament

Jorn
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:52 PM
Was a good fight back but too late... Petra :)

Sombrerero loco
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:52 PM
omfg what a third set tie break :hearts:

cordec
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:52 PM
Great tournament 4 Petra! Please take a title :)
It was so unlucky for Aga that Petra wasn't seeded in NH.
She defeated three top 12 players in a row!:worship::worship::worship:

danieln1
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:52 PM
Hopefully she´ll be tired for New York :devil:

Congrats Woz on her fourth New Haven slam :bounce:

Pasta-Na
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:52 PM
saved mp and fought back for nothing, na. :o

MakarovaFan
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:52 PM
62 31 -62 57-62 57 41- 62 57 44-62 57 54 match point(and df's!)....gees the choking

But to be fair they played some awesome points in that TB(funny how Li got a netcord on both her and Cetkovska's match points lol)

DragonFlame
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Na seriously? How could you NOT win that.... just... :sobbing:

This will be a dent in her confidence, just terrible. She practically handed you the match and you still didn't take it. Her forehand totally went away in the tiebreak just like it did against lisicki at wimbledon...

Moveyourfeet
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:53 PM
So sick of these weak girls. The match should have been over ages ago.

tennisfan5
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Li's punishment for this match should be playing first rd against Sveta. That could be the only worse thing that this one

crazillo
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:53 PM
The TB was about the highest quality in the whole match. lol: This is shocking for Li, and it is not good for her mentally with the US Open just around the corner...

I like Cetkovska's tennis, but she needs to relax more during matches.

madmax
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Amaze:hearts:
What a figher this little Petra is...so much variety, so much talent too:bowdown: Too good

is1531
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:53 PM
What kind of a Dick soup handshake was that by Li Na? Petra deserved the win. Na was lucky in the tiebreaker at 5-6 when her shot landed over the tape and out wide. At 4-5 Petra desperately returned 4 slices until she finally went on the offense during the point,which was probably the biggest point in the match,other than the final point.

sandv1
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:53 PM
for the sake of fuck, wut a fuckery :sobbing: haven't seen such a ridiculous choking in ages

...and to think.... _this_ is prepping for the USO. :haha:

Specter
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:54 PM
Petra almost giving me a heart attack. Now take the title, gurl! :rocker2:

HuHu
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:54 PM
http://i52.tinypic.com/nn5c9k.jpg

WhoAmI?
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:54 PM
Not pretty, but at least exciting. Especially the TB. Cetkovska should have used her chances earlier, but whatever, she got that win in the bag now:bowdown: I haven't been this nervous for a long time over a match:lol:, very happy for Petra C.

Good luck in the final:cheer:

Sammo
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:54 PM
:spit: Thank God I was just occasionally following it by the livescore and didn't watch it :haha:

''Petra wanted to choke the match away but Li didn't let her'' would be a more appropiate thread title

Juju Nostalgique
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:55 PM
I feel sad for Na but I'm glad that Cetkorazzi got it together for the biggest result of her career. Congrats! :yeah: :hatoff:

-NAJ-
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:56 PM
Funny match.

I want that TB on youtube, please :))

Sam.
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:56 PM
:help: So that's another title for Woz :/

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:57 PM
Too good :haha: And Na Li is a contender for the title in NY? Hard to imagine.

Chim
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:57 PM
Na has too much money now. Just can't stay focus:facepalm:

Petra :bounce:

tennisbum79
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:57 PM
She has more fetch accent than Czec, whatever that is.


She does a good all around game, how come we have not heard much of her?
Some easy power on both sides and effortless shots.

Underachiever, maybe?

Noctis
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:58 PM
Na is pulling a Serena,don't care unless slam ,LOL

Zhao
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:58 PM
she's actually the dumbest among the golden flowers... put Jie or Shuai in the same situation they would have been able to close it out

Juju Nostalgique
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:58 PM
:help: So that's another title for Woz :/

Not yet. Da bitch can fall. :spit:

hurricanejeanne
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:59 PM
http://i52.tinypic.com/nn5c9k.jpg

Classic WTA stats right there. :hearts:

is1531
Aug 26th, 2011, 08:59 PM
I hear some of the men crying as usual. I guess these fools bet money on the match. Petra deserved the match and it really was a great match. If your a stupid gambler,it will never be a good match when you lose money. Smarten up,don't bet.

Richie's
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:00 PM
:woohoo: for Petra! Finally, she's showing some of her great skills.

FORZA SARITA
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:00 PM
Petra tried so hard to lose :hysteric: fucking yeah!!! premier final :speakles:

doomsday
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:00 PM
Na is pulling a Serena,don't care unless slam ,LOL

If you say so.

tennisbum79
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:00 PM
Na has too much money now. Just can't stay focus:facepalm:

Petra :bounce:
Yeah, money can do that you.

Worry that you might lose it all if you don't close eye on it:lol:

Pasta-Na
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:02 PM
na almost lost to little maria in R1. :o

Wintermute
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:02 PM
Bit of a horror show that one, but the tiebreak had drama so was entertaining. Good for Petra because it's her first big final. Is Na's mind already on NYC or what? She should have put this match away.

BartoLiNa
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:03 PM
Another mm for Caro :worship:

BlackPanther.
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:03 PM
Li :facepalm:. You fought for nothing. :rolleyes:
Caro congrats on your fourth New Haven title :bounce::inlove:

tennisbum79
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:03 PM
she's actually the dumbest among the golden flowers... put Jie or Shuai in the same situation they would have been able to close it out
Come on now, that is too harsh on Na Li.

The fact is its Na who was here, those 2 players.
Na had made AO final and won GS.


I understand she played badly here, but that is no reason compare to the other scubs.

Elwin.
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:04 PM
Petra :D

QuietPlease
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:04 PM
Petra is hot and Petra is sooooo HOT! :inlove:

She's got a hot winning streak going on here in NH beating seeds left and right. And by God this must be the hottest girl on tour! Why have I never seen this girl play before :drool: :inlove:

Moo_21
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:05 PM
blimey that was awful match yet so gripping at the end!

Well done Cetkovska on a first WTA final :)

Goodness knows how this is going to affect Li, I hope she can sort out her game for the US. Shes got a prettty straightforward draw so every chance she can play herself into some form... we'll see

is1531
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:05 PM
Noctis,your copping out. Na was outplayed,but you chose to not give Petra any credit. Na is a quality player,who was outplayed today.

Beny
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:05 PM
Well done Petra!

Wozniacki hasnt even won her SF yet, still people already congratulating her for millionth New Haven title.

She is not losing to Schiavone but Petra can pretty much beat her

Rex59
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:06 PM
This is by far the worst match I've ever seen.

You must not have seen the recent Maria v Jelena match for the championship in Cincinnati, plus 'Pova's match with Dulgheru in Miami this year. If you were a witness, I'm sure your opinion would be decisively different. :)

DragonFlame
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:09 PM
I'm still mindblown... how could she lose that match.. Her forehand has really gone on vacation. In that tiebreak it was especially dreadfull. The worst thing is cetkovska wasn't even doing much anymore at the end there. Just returning balls with slice and Li would end up making the error.(including that DF..) That's frustrating. Cetkovska did everything she could to hand this match to her but she just wouldn't take it.

Na shouldn't be nervous in mickey mouse SF's like that. It's a shame. Fix her michael, fix her please... :sobbing:

ArcticMoose
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:09 PM
:worship: Petra - Please keep this form at the USO :angel:

QuietPlease
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:09 PM
What kind of a Dick soup handshake was that by Li Na? Petra deserved the win. Na was lucky in the tiebreaker at 5-6 when her shot landed over the tape and out wide. At 4-5 Petra desperately returned 4 slices until she finally went on the offense during the point,which was probably the biggest point in the match,other than the final point.

Yes. Li Na was unbelievably lucky there! Rather lame 2nd serve, good return from Petra (on MP!) and Li barely scrapes it over the net and saves the MP!

I guess Petra should have closed the match in 2 sets, but it's still a great win for her. Should do her confidence good!

smarties
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:10 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1273045_o.gif


Petra wanted to choke soooo bad!!! Glad she pulled it off :)

TheHangover
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:10 PM
Come on now, that is too harsh on Na Li.

The fact is its Na who was here, those 2 players.
Na had made AO final and won GS.


I understand she played badly here, but that is no reason compare to the other scubs.



Scrubs? that's unnecessary HATE

Tennis Observer
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:10 PM
:spit: Thank God I was just occasionally following it by the livescore and didn't watch it :haha:
If you go for entertainment, excitement and tension you missed something. If you go for quality tennis, you missed the last ten points or so. If you admire an underdog who had to play six matches to be there, you missed a lot.

Congrats to Petra :hatoff: who not only deserved that win, but :facepalm: to Na about the way she played.

edificio
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:11 PM
The stats, the stats...the horror, the horror! :eek:

dragonflies
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:12 PM
It was an entertaining match, although the quality was bad. Li played careless at times with stupid errors and when she started to focus again, it was too late. Cetkovska has a very good game. She played excellently to beat Ivanovic at Wimbledon, but somehow lost to Sharapova. Her level can go really up and down in a match though.



It's actually good for Li to get some time to prepare for the US Open, both physically and mentally. New tournament, new oponent , new results.



Cetkovska is a player to watch, but not sure it's good for her in NY, if she goes too deep in New Haven. She showed sign of exhaustion already. The New Haven champions haven't done well in New york in ages, since Venus won both events, i think.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:13 PM
*points and stares in horror at this match*

tennisbum79
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:14 PM
Petra is 25 or 26, she has been playing for awhile, so what has she been doing the past years?
This is only her first WTA final.

With the game she has shown this week, I would think she would had a better record.

misty1
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:14 PM
2 top 10 wins in a row and coming off a victory over aga

i have to congradulate her but..this result sucks for me on a personal level

Tennis Observer
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:15 PM
[...]In that tiebreak it was especially dreadfull. [...]
Frankly, Na should neither got into deciding set nor should have a TB decide this match. Petra should have closed it out way earlier!

Ugly performance from Na!

ZODIAC
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:16 PM
she is kinda pretty...looks like a woman

melodynelson
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:19 PM
If Cetkovska had just sliced and junkballed from the first point it would have been a lot easier than 76 in the third.

Li's MP and the double fault after are still haunting me.

tennisbum79
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:19 PM
The stats, the stats...the horror, the horror! :eek:
100 errors between them, 16 DFs, 2 aces, 45 winners. Not good

vozas
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:21 PM
Cetkovska has a very good game. She played excellently to beat Ivanovic at Wimbledon, but somehow lost to Sharapova.

She didn't play Sharapova in Wimbledon.

tennisbum79
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:21 PM
Frankly, Na should neither got into deciding set nor should have a TB decide this match. Petra should have closed it out way earlier!

Ugly performance from Na!
On the other hand, had she won the match, it would have been called a great comeback, fighting spirit

melodynelson
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:22 PM
On the other hand, had she won the match, it would have been called a great comeback, fighting spirit

They'd still complain she should never have been in the situation, her form has not improved, and was lucky her inexperienced opponent let her take the match, and would be deadfodder in the final.

Laura_VeeFan
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:23 PM
:facepalm:

Please find some form before the US Open Li :unsure:

dragonflies
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:24 PM
Frankly, Na should neither got into deciding set nor should have a TB decide this match. Petra should have closed it out way earlier!

Ugly performance from Na!



Well, to be fair, Cetkovska only played well in parts of the match, esp the first set and at the end of the last set. Most the time she went up on a lead thanks to Na's careless errors. In the 3 rd set, when Na got more focus, she closed up the gap and got a lead. Too bad, she went back to brainless bashing again.



The match went 11-9 in the 3rd set tiebreak with both players had match points, so it could easily go either way. Although Na lost today and Petra has been playing well and was a better player today, there is no doubt that Na is a better player when both play at their best.

crusader2
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:25 PM
4th match Li lost the match points this year.

Dubai-wickmayer lost 4 match points
miami-larsson lost 3 match points
wimbledon-lisicki lost 2 match points
and petra-new haven lost 1 match point

illusyve
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:26 PM
British Eurosport Commentator: "It's as if Li Na is drowning and the lifeboat comes and saves her and she jumps on, but only to jump off right after to drown all over again."

Too true :rolleyes:

The only part of the match that was alright to watch was the third set tie-break.

Get it together for the USO!

dragonflies
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:27 PM
She didn't play Sharapova in Wimbledon.


yeah, i was about to put a question mark there, but too lazi to go back to search. Watched her match with Ivanovic and impressed with her play though. Surprirsed that she didn't go far.

tennisbum79
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:29 PM
British Eurosport Commentator: "It's as if Li Na is drowning and the lifeboat comes and saves her and she jumps on, but only to jump off right after to drown all over again."

!

I APPROVED, she was given the match on a platter a few times, only to refuse to take it.

She has a challenge not to repeat Ana Ivanovic post RG win performance.
Ana could not handle the pressure of winning RG, being #1 and having other players bringing their best game when they play against her.

Na Li has to be aware that, after you win a GS, the other women want you to be aware that they can still hang with you, so they are extra-motivated in a match against you.

DragonFlame
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:29 PM
Frankly, Na should neither got into deciding set nor should have a TB decide this match. Petra should have closed it out way earlier!

Ugly performance from Na!

of course she shouldn't have gotten there, but when she made 5-all she should have never lost this match. It's not like cetkovska played brilliantly and dominating at any moment after that, Na really did it all herself to lose at that point.

Setsuna.
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:31 PM
another slump player saved! after Lisicki and Stosur...

:spit:

SVK
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:35 PM
LMAO at people being sure that it´s another Wozniacki´s title:silly:
I don´t say she can´t win, but please...she is able to lose to everyone right now and we are talking about WTA...I wouldn´t be surprised if Petra will win the title...

SVK
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:39 PM
She has more fetch accent than Czec, whatever that is.


She does a good all around game, how come we have not heard much of her?
Some easy power on both sides and effortless shots.

Underachiever, maybe?

More like latebloomer...she was far from being impressive few years ago, even when she was at her first peak.

BartoLiNa
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:41 PM
Noctis,your copping out. Na was outplayed,but you chose to not give Petra any credit. Na is a quality player,who was outplayed today.

Dumb post.

Making 55 unforced errors is not getting outplayed.

QuietPlease
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:46 PM
It's actually good for Li to get some time to prepare for the US Open, both physically and mentally. New tournament, new oponent , new results.

Cetkovska is a player to watch, but not sure it's good for her in NY, if she goes too deep in New Haven. She showed sign of exhaustion already. The New Haven champions haven't done well in New york in ages, since Venus won both events, i think.

I'd like to know your definition of 'not doing well'?
Last year the NH champ reached the USO SF, and in 2009 the NH champ reached the USO final! :rolleyes:

QuietPlease
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:48 PM
British Eurosport Commentator: "It's as if Li Na is drowning and the lifeboat comes and saves her and she jumps on, but only to jump off right after to drown all over again."


:lol::rolls::lol:

Sammo
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:49 PM
That metaphore is less dramatic than what she really did, more like she sank the boat herself with a drill

burn
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:53 PM
Petra :hearts:

dragonflies
Aug 26th, 2011, 09:56 PM
I'd like to know your definition of 'not doing well'?
Last year the NH champ reached the USO SF, and in 2009 the NH champ reached the USO final! :rolleyes:



Okay, I give you that. Making SF and F are good results and " well", but I was thinking about winning the US Open for the NH champions, like Venus did twice.

Also, I'm not expecting Caroline to repeat her peformances this year. She hasn't been playing well and you will have to agree that her US Open's draws in the past 2 years were amazingly soft.

scandic78
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:04 PM
for the sake of fuck, wut a fuckery :sobbing: haven't seen such a ridiculous choking in ages

:rolls:

Na :o :o :o please get your shit together

Petra - well done, awesome few weeks for you :cool:

Break My Rapture
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:08 PM
Na never grew on me because of her continuous inconsistency, and this only solidifies that.

Congrats to Cetkovska, win the final please.

VeeJJ
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:09 PM
Literally PEAK WTA.

I have never seen something so disgusting yet I could not look away.

Protoss
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:10 PM
4th match Li lost the match points this year.

Dubai-wickmayer lost 4 match points
miami-larsson lost 3 match points
wimbledon-lisicki lost 2 match points
and petra-new haven lost 1 match point
How Federeresque. :p

Craig.
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:10 PM
Na never grew on me because of her continuous inconsistency, and this only solidifies that.

Congrats to Cetkovska, win the final please.

Every word of this.

Miracle Worker
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:12 PM
Petra played some nice tennis in this match. Maybe not brilliant tennis, but nice.

QuietPlease
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:24 PM
Okay, I give you that. Making SF and F are good results and " well", but I was thinking about winning the US Open for the NH champions, like Venus did twice.

Also, I'm not expecting Caroline to repeat her peformances this year. She hasn't been playing well and you will have to agree that her US Open's draws in the past 2 years were amazingly soft.

When the 2010 draw came out people were saying Caro wouldn't get past Sharapova in the 4th round.
And in 2009? Well, her draw opened because she defeated Sveta (then a force and regular top-tenner), plus Safina lost to Kvitova and Sharapova lost to Oudin, which then turned into a Caro SF against Wickmayer :lol:
So the draw was pretty tough, but it opened...

dsanders06
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:26 PM
When the 2010 draw came out people were saying Caro wouldn't get past Sharapova in the 4th round.
And in 2009? Well, her draw opened because she defeated Sveta (then a force and regular top-tenner), plus Safina lost to Kvitova and Sharapova lost to Oudin, which then turned into a Caro SF against Wickmayer :lol:
So the draw was pretty tough, but it opened...

It doesn't change the fact that she's probably not going to win a Slam if she's been failing so spectacularly while the sport has been in such dire straits :shrug:

Vikapower
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:37 PM
Li Na : So lucky to have won a major... she will always be a useless player and very inconsistent ball-basher losing 3 of her last 8 matches since RG trophy... her game really has no savour whatsoever, complete loser.

EDIT : :spit: BTW Ana can not be pleased to see Cetkovska peak like this before the major.

claypova
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:41 PM
Na :weirdo::haha:

tennisbum79
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:47 PM
Li Na : So lucky to have won a major... good for her but she will always be a useless player and very inconsistent ball-basher... her game really has no savour whatsoever.

EDIT : :spit: BTW Ana can not be pleased to see Cetkovska peak like this before the major.
You made this state in the Live Commentary thread, and you are repeating it here again.

The fact is, Na Li did not just have a lucky 15 days like you said (BTW, Lady Jaja said the same thing when she was #1 year end and was criticized for not have a GS)
She made the AO final and played well between that time and RG.


I know that is what you believe, but I just wanted to fill in the holes you left out.

delicatecutter
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:54 PM
So proud of Petra for pulling that one out. It was a real nail-biter. :scared:

Good luck in the final! :hearts: :cheer:

Vikapower
Aug 26th, 2011, 10:59 PM
You made this state in the Live Commentary thread, and you are repeating it here again.

The fact is, Na Li did not just have a lucky 15 days like you said (BTW, Lady Jaja said the same thing when she was #1 year end and was criticized for not have a GS)
She made the AO final and played well between that time and RG.


I know that is what you believe, but I just wanted to fill in the holes you left out.

No in the Live commentary I didn't say she had lucky 15 days but I said that she was abled to keep a certain safe tactic for 15 days and that's simply what RG indicates in other words Li has never been a great player in terms of tennis and will never be.

Other than these 15 days Li is a player that really really sucks just like displays her results in the last 4 events... she's very difficult to watch and for time I appreciate power tennis.

You can't change Li's intrinsic characteristics - she might keep a tactic for like a week, 2 weeks in a year like what happened in RG but the rest of the time her bread and butter game loses to everyone [...] the band-wagoners fell in the trap only to be more deceived. :lol:

Li always plays well in AO for whatever reason but outside from these 2 majors, Li is 16-10 on the WTA tour, very weak for a #4-5 potential top 3 player.

faboozadoo15
Aug 26th, 2011, 11:01 PM
Thank God. Hopefully Someone can knock her out of the US Open too.

VishaalMaria
Aug 26th, 2011, 11:10 PM
Overrated Li, take Na goat with you and leaave New Haven:wavey:

At least Na Li won a slam this year.

VishaalMaria
Aug 26th, 2011, 11:12 PM
Anyway, as much as Cetkovsa choked, in that tie break she was the one that was taking the risks and painting the lines with at least two of her forehands. I LOVED her steadiness and focus when she was at 4-5 in the tiebreak. That rally seemed as if the momentum was going either way and it could have been two match points for Na Li.

But really, I still think Na Li should have won this. She just couldn't find a good middle game today. She was too inconsistent or too tentative. It's a hard to keep it balanced.

tennisbum79
Aug 26th, 2011, 11:17 PM
No in the Live commentary I didn't say she had lucky 15 days but I said that she was abled to keep a certain safe tactic for 15 days and that's simply what RG indicates in other words Li has never been a great player in terms of tennis and will never be.

Other than these 15 days Li is a player that really really sucks just like displays her results in the last 4 events... she's very difficult to watch and for time I appreciate power tennis.

You can't change Li's intrinsic characteristics - she might keep a tactic for like a week, 2 weeks in a year like what happened in RG but the rest of the time her bread and butter game loses to everyone [...] the band-wagoners fell in the trap only to be more deceived. :lol:

Li always plays well in AO for whatever reason but outside from these 2 majors, Li is 16-10 on the WTA tour, very weak for a #4-5 potential top 3 player.
For me, it is really a distinction w/o a difference.

She was lucky to have won a GS, then you said she kept a certain safe tactic for 15 days, whatever that means.

Shepster
Aug 26th, 2011, 11:27 PM
Brutal match, both to watch and I'm sure for them to play. Glad Petra won it, must mean so much more to her. :yeah:

Vikapower
Aug 26th, 2011, 11:32 PM
:shrug: In RG Li was playing with much more control and safety with her shots, wasn't that a tactic with her coach ? - I think you do not need Picasso to paint the differences for you - in the last events she has played she has naturally revert to her A-bashing game that loses to everyone. :lol:

So if this was her tactic to play safe on clay then she has only been abled to keep it for 15 days in Paris giving the illusion that she was a brand new player but ROFL she's not as she's actually demonstrating. :lol:

Anyways Li is 30 I think you can't expect someone that old to change - I'll just keep laughing at her cluelessness on tennis courts until the Asia/Oceania open probably where she'll find her peak form again. :wavey:

is1531
Aug 26th, 2011, 11:33 PM
Dumb post.

Making 55 unforced errors is not getting outplayed.

You mean to say,your post is dumb :devil:

Mistress of Evil
Aug 27th, 2011, 12:03 AM
back to being a Brainless Ballbasher :hearts:
poor NaNa :awww:

kenjai7373
Aug 27th, 2011, 12:05 AM
:shrug: In RG Li was playing with much more control and safety with her shots, wasn't that a tactic with her coach ? - I think you do not need Picasso to paint the differences for you - in the last events she has played she has naturally revert to her A-bashing game that loses to everyone. :lol:

So if this was her tactic to play safe on clay then she has only been abled to keep it for 15 days in Paris giving the illusion that she was a brand new player but ROFL she's not as she's actually demonstrating. :lol:

Anyways Li is 30 I think you can't expect someone that old to change - I'll just keep laughing at her cluelessness on tennis courts until the Asia/Oceania open probably where she'll find her peak form again. :wavey:
its funny when li na loses, haters come in to talk smack. shes pretty much the same all her career but still managed to win a grand slam. thats why she only has 5 wta titles. unlike your vika, who hasnt made a grand slam final yet. it sucks that li na keep eliminating your favorite player at grand slams but venting your anger on li na wont help vika.:lol:

Ayumilover.
Aug 27th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Ughh i hate this result :(
but whatever, i rather have her win the Open than this :lol:
she'll be back to her best next week :cheer:

Blackycat
Aug 27th, 2011, 12:40 AM
Li Na : So lucky to have won a major... she will always be a useless player and very inconsistent ball-basher losing 3 of her last 8 matches since RG trophy... her game really has no savour whatsoever, complete loser.

EDIT : :spit: BTW Ana can not be pleased to see Cetkovska peak like this before the major.

a useless player took out ur fav twice this year:worship:remarkable

Steven.
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:21 AM
4th match Li lost the match points this year.

Dubai-wickmayer lost 4 match points
miami-larsson lost 3 match points
wimbledon-lisicki lost 2 match points
and petra-new haven lost 1 match point

didn't see the other matches but she did not lose these (on errors), Sabine simply saved them with unreturnable serves. :angel: Li said herself in the post match interview that there wasn't a thing she could've done differently to seal the match at that time.

anyway, good luck in the final Petra!

18majors
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:25 AM
Petra hits the ball as cleanly as the other Petra, Kvitova. She has raised her ranking to No. 32 with today's win and can potentially move a lot higher.

dane
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:33 AM
fluke is always fluke

The Reff
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:33 AM
100 UEs between them??

longtin23
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:35 AM
lol I was a hoping a better stats for Na,last match is 41UE and I would love to see less, but then she turned out with...so frastrated she didnt win the match, she should have won the tie break, but she still lose it by her errors especially when Petra just push the ball back and she have set up her point...she hit really some brilliant winners but still too many errors...i agree that her last points have some mental problem and she should win the match...she has the weapon and chancrs to win...Please Micheal fix her...please do better next week...

Ayumilover.
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:35 AM
fluke is always fluke

she's got one more grand slam title than sunshine :wavey:

and she had 90% of the vote in the who is better, Caro or Li thread :lol:

the fluke is you. Li Na is the best :D

dane
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:38 AM
she's got one more grand slam title than sunshine :wavey:

and she had 90% of the vote in the who is better, Caro or Li thread :lol:

the fluke is you. Li Na is the best :D

Caro is 100 times better than the chinese brainless ballbasher. Her time will come and she will win 15 times more slams than this flukey one.

longtin23
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:40 AM
I just cant understand how people can deny the effort of Na in AO season and RG, she really has the weapon to outplay most of the player, but she cant do it, when she set up the point, and then the next shpt is poorly excuted...but still i dont know why Na is overrated...

longtin23
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:41 AM
Caro and Na are the best for me:)

claypova
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:42 AM
fluke is always fluke

fluke > nothing

Ayumilover.
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:43 AM
Caro is 100 times better than the chinese brainless ballbasher. Her time will come and she will win 15 times more slams than this flukey one.

Lol you say nana is bad when she has beaten Caro 3 out of 4 times :lol:

caroline is a great player, li is just greater :worship:

tennisbum79
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:43 AM
lol I was a hoping a better stats for Na,last match is 41UE and I would love to see less, but then she turned out with...so frastrated she didnt win the match, she should have won the tie break, but she still lose it by her errors especially when Petra just push the ball back and she have set up her point...she hit really some brilliant winners but still too many errors...i agree that her last points have some mental problem and she should win the match...she has the weapon and chancrs to win...Please Micheal fix her...please do better next week...
It seems to me Na Li ias the type of players who need lots of matches to sharpen their games.

She seems to play in automatic gears, if things aren't going her way, she get tight and frustrated, but does not try to adjust or change tactics.
As a top player, she had better developed that part of her game.
She has to be able to win even if she is not at her best.
She is also in need of plan B, C if her primary game plan does not work either because of poor execution or it is simply ineffective against the current opponent.

The tops players , winner of multi slams all have that in their toolbox.

Ayumilover.
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:46 AM
What you said Tennisbum79 is mostly accurate, however...Li is definitely a top play and a contender for next week

tennisbum79
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:46 AM
I just cant understand how people can deny the effort of Na in AO season and RG, she really has the weapon to outplay most of the player, but she cant do it, when she set up the point, and then the next shpt is poorly excuted...but still i dont know why Na is overrated...
You can't convince those people.
I kind find hard it to believe that they are trying to discount her AO run and now her RG victory.

longtin23
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:49 AM
It seems to me Na Li ias the type of players who need lots of matches to sharpen their games.

She seems to play in automatic gears, if things aren't going her way, she get tight and frustrated, but does not try to adjust or change tactics.
As a top player, she had better developed that part of her game.
She has to be able to win even if she is not at her best.
She is also in need of plan B, C if her primary game plan does not work either because of poor execution or it is simply ineffective against the current opponent.

The tops players , winner of multi slams all have that in their toolbox.

I agree. She cant always bash the ball like Sharapova, she have some variety in RG though and then nothing. She wont use drop shots, she wont mix it up, she will only go up to the net but not usual. She need some new ideas though, so please fix Na, Michael

Drake1980
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:49 AM
:eek: :bounce:

Steven.
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:51 AM
You can't convince those people.
I kind find hard it to believe that they are trying to discount her AO run and now her RG victory.

real talk: isn't that what people do with Ana? Just because she crumbled after her victory and accension to world no. 1 doesn't mean her slam was a fluke, and she had a much better run than Na on the tour and in slams in the past year (couple tier 1s, AO final, previous RG final losing to Henin, Wimbledon SF etc.)

tennisbum79
Aug 27th, 2011, 01:59 AM
real talk: isn't that what people do with Ana? Just because she crumbled after her victory and accension to world no. 1 doesn't mean her slam was a fluke, and she had a much better run than Na on the tour and in slams in the past year (couple tier 1s, AO final, previous RG final losing to Henin, Wimbledon SF etc.)
Na Li is still in her first year of winning her GS.

Ana got some honeymoon period of r 2 years.

Renalicious
Aug 27th, 2011, 02:01 AM
:facepalm:

Steven.
Aug 27th, 2011, 02:01 AM
Na Li is still in her first year of winning her GS.

Ana got some honeymoon period of r 2 years.

Just because she failed to deliver AFTER doesn't mean it was a fluke. The talent was always there and the results showed that she could until she let the pressure get to her.

tennisbum79
Aug 27th, 2011, 02:06 AM
Just because she failed to deliver AFTER doesn't mean it was a fluke. The talent was always there and the results showed that she could until she let the pressure get to her.
I am not saying it was right or wrong, I am just they are not according the same honeymoon period they gave Ana.

It has only 4 months since Li Na won RG, she has not played match after Wimbledon.

Reptilia
Aug 27th, 2011, 02:07 AM
Why can't these top girls all just play decently for once. :facepalm:

Ryan
Aug 27th, 2011, 02:09 AM
Petra :drool:

Na :spit:

tennisbum79
Aug 27th, 2011, 02:16 AM
What you said Tennisbum79 is mostly accurate, however...Li is definitely a top play and a contender for next week
I would not got that far to make her a contender.

After winning a GS, she is now a target, (like any other GS winner) of the other players.
The other players will now always bring their A game against her, she has to be ready to handle that challenge.

Some can meet the challenge head on and remain top players.
Other can't and crumble under the pressure of being hunted day in and day out.


That is what set Serena (and Henin , Venus when they was at her peak) apart of form the pack.
They seems to have an answer to very challenge coming their way.

Li Na has to acquire these qualities, else....

longtin23
Aug 27th, 2011, 02:23 AM
Why can't these top girls all just play decently for once. :facepalm:

I hop they can...

hdfb
Aug 27th, 2011, 02:51 AM
fluke is always fluke

You know, I'd hate a player too if she beat my fave after my fave had a MP in an Australian Open semifinal.

I guess it would be worse if the same player beat your fave at the Australian Open the year before in straight sets, and then it WAS just the week before in Sydney where the same player beat your fave, and you know, that's what has happened here, as if Na Li is Woz's bogeyman for Australian season, so DEAL.

SELVEN
Aug 27th, 2011, 03:50 AM
petra:yeah:

ElusiveChanteuse
Aug 27th, 2011, 03:54 AM
Na :smash: You had your chances. I guess the same situation will happen in NY.:tape:
Petra :eek: No wonder she's improving. Dangerous floater right there.

iGOAT
Aug 27th, 2011, 05:42 AM
Good job Petra :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:! What a huge week! Out of nowhere basically :haha:.

Na :help:. This is the risk of taking these wild cards before majors, players can end up losing a heartbreaker and come out with even less confidence than before :o.

Petra looks pretty wiped out for the final, but hopefully she can put in a good performance :).

This would have been one of the all-time shitfests if not for some very good points at the end :).

Pops Maellard
Aug 27th, 2011, 05:43 AM
Li. :rolls: This year's slam winners. :help:

Pasta-Na
Aug 27th, 2011, 05:47 AM
Li. :rolls: This year's slam winners. :help:

she said she couldnt get her first serves in, its like the worst day of serving in her life. :spit:

young_gunner913
Aug 27th, 2011, 06:01 AM
NaNa :o

longtin23
Aug 27th, 2011, 06:03 AM
Actually, things are two-sided. Maybe Li will lose her confidence, or maybe she'll take this as another lesson, figure out why would this happen and try some new things or improve or peak in USO, but she need to be a mentally tough person, so I hope she is the latter one...

earthcrystal
Aug 27th, 2011, 06:37 AM
From what I can see, Na seems very uncomfortable on her new pedestal. She has always been a pretty inconsistent player throughout her career, scratchy and then brilliant. But that's usually in streaks of weeks, not all in one match time and again. :o

That said, this was a HUGE match for Petra and she clearly looked exhausted at points. Scratchy too, undoubtably. But brave I think. Yes, very brave to fight through to the win.

Bravo.

Sexysova
Aug 27th, 2011, 07:36 AM
Petra played really well till 62 20, Li was shit, then they were both quite shit until the end of the match :lol:

but I'm so happy for Petra, she has reached her biggest final ever and even as a qualifier, try to win this final and do some damage at the US Open :D :cheer:

Fantasy Hero
Aug 27th, 2011, 07:42 AM
I LOVE YOU PETRA :inlove:

!VamosRafa!
Aug 27th, 2011, 08:55 AM
Ughh i hate this result :(
but whatever, i rather have her win the Open than this :lol:
she'll be back to her best next week :cheer:

Don't count on that :tape:

Corswandt
Aug 27th, 2011, 11:25 AM
Saw the highlights yesterday on ES1.

Typical match of a Vulture Special "Premier event" played the week before a Slam.

Li's footwork was nonexistent in the third, with disastrous effects on her ROS first and then over everything else. She's showing signs of physical decline, or at least of not being in prime physical form.

Cetkovska is no longer the flat out retriever/junkballer with a near slice-only BH she once was (apart from those points in the TB you must all remember), and she can hit a decent FH every now and then, and sort of rally with her 2-handed drive BH, even though it looks godawful. Her ball is very flat, nearly spinless, and can be tricky to handle even if it doesn't carry much weight/pace. But even though she's a bit less one-dimensionally defensive now, the purpose of her game remains the same - to bring down her opponent's level down to her own. The usual suspects will praise her resourcefulness, but it doesn't make for fun viewing.

rucolo
Aug 27th, 2011, 12:18 PM
Petra into a Premier final! :eek: Nice upset, Petra! :drool:;)

Tough loss for Li. She even had a match point - and wasted it :tape:

LenaDMania0003
Aug 27th, 2011, 04:26 PM
Well done little Petra :yeah: :inlove:
Hopefully she will keep good form