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MechWarrior2k
Aug 25th, 2011, 08:12 PM
She's really talented and it's nice to see she's in position to get to top 10 in the very near future.

But she keeps getting chunkier and chunkier each event I see her play. Babyfat no more. Fattychenkova or Pavlyuchunky is more like it. Even commentators are quipping her about her fitness or lack of. Watching her play Li I am appalled by how she just packs all the carbs. At IW 2009 she was a bit thick, but now? :help:

Kvitova realized she needed to get in better shape and did comething about it (she looked pregnant in that USO 2009 match with Safina). It took Davenport quite a while to get into shape, but she did so. Pavlyuchenkova still has some areas to build on (*cough*serve*cough*), but I worry she won't improve until she can cut the carbs. Given how sad the WTA top 20 is, she's blowing a great chance to make her mark. That or she could end up giving Ahsha Rolle or Anna-Lena Groenefeld a run for their money.

doomsday
Aug 25th, 2011, 08:14 PM
Her groundies are really interesting, prolly the most interesting to watch after Maria's ones. But the serve :help: same fight as Maria I guess :lol:

borrowedheaven
Aug 25th, 2011, 08:15 PM
I agree. Imagine how good she could be with a more trained body. I'm sure she will realise it at some point, but I rather have it sooner then later.

C. Drone
Aug 25th, 2011, 08:22 PM
weight watchers newest episode. This board is always obessed with their bodies. :lol:
There are maybe bigger problems than her body. Like finding a reliable serve that actually works. Or not to choke. Stuff like that.

MechWarrior2k
Aug 25th, 2011, 08:29 PM
weight watchers newest episode. This board is always obessed with their bodies. :lol:
There are maybe bigger problems than her body. Like finding a reliable serve that actually works. Or not to choke. Stuff like that.

I've mentioned the serve. My goodness that needs help. I think it would be easier if she didn't need to exert so much energy just to get the serve in. She's fighting gravity when serving and lacks fluidity on the serve as a result.

If she doesn't get in shape, next thing you know her knees, ankles, and/or abdomen will suffer. I like Pav. She still unpolished like Kvitova. She's more than capable of moving up, but she has to want it enough.

vozas
Aug 25th, 2011, 08:32 PM
She's PavlyuCHOKEva before Babyfatchenkova. She should've EASILY made the finals at the French.

Sadly, the quicker the courts get, the worse she plays. She's very good on clay and may make some noise next year but I'm not expecting much from her at Flushing Meadows.

cowsonice
Aug 25th, 2011, 08:43 PM
It comes with time. Sooner or later, she's gonna lose it if she wants to say somewhat of a force on tour. :shrug:

C. Drone
Aug 25th, 2011, 08:43 PM
I've mentioned the serve. My goodness that needs help. I think it would be easier if she didn't need to exert so much energy just to get the serve in. She's fighting gravity when serving and lacks fluidity on the serve as a result.

If she doesn't get in shape, next thing you know her knees, ankles, and/or abdomen will suffer. I like Pav. She still unpolished like Kvitova. She's more than capable of moving up, but she has to want it enough.

well, if she just wants to doing her nails in next years (as her twitter suggests), thats only her problem.

Joe.
Aug 25th, 2011, 08:50 PM
In this case I think her size is only effecting her game to a certain degree...she's got good stamina and actually moves pretty well.

Ciarán
Aug 25th, 2011, 09:01 PM
She's really talented and it's nice to see she's in position to get to top 10 in the very near future.

But she keeps getting chunkier and chunkier each event I see her play. Babyfat no more. Fattychenkova or Pavlyuchunky is more like it. Even commentators are quipping her about her fitness or lack of. Watching her play Li I am appalled by how she just packs all the carbs. At IW 2009 she was a bit thick, but now? :help:

Kvitova realized she needed to get in better shape and did comething about it (she looked pregnant in that USO 2009 match with Safina). It took Davenport quite a while to get into shape, but she did so. Pavlyuchenkova still has some areas to build on (*cough*serve*cough*), but I worry she won't improve until she can cut the carbs. Given how sad the WTA top 20 is, she's blowing a great chance to make her mark. That or she could end up giving Ahsha Rolle or Anna-Lena Groenefeld a run for their money.

Funny that she has still amounted to x10 more than you ever will :lol:

Setsuna.
Aug 25th, 2011, 09:01 PM
She is the top 20 player with the most major weaknesses:

1. Lack of fittness. Her movement is not good enough.
2. Weak serve.
3. Very weak mentally (A huge headcase).
4. Lack of belief in her game.

She is in the top 20 because she is so talented. I didn't see any noticeable improvements in her game this year. If she really wants to be a true top player who wants to win Slams in the future, she must work on her fittness, movement, mental strength and serve.

cowsonice
Aug 25th, 2011, 09:04 PM
In this case I think her size is only effecting her game to a certain degree...she's got good stamina and actually moves pretty well.

But if she keeps it up, she'll get injuries. :shrug: a la Mardy Fish (best example I can think of...)

King Halep
Aug 25th, 2011, 10:06 PM
She is adorable. Needs to slow down on the bagels and baked products though


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King Halep
Aug 25th, 2011, 10:08 PM
I've mentioned the serve. My goodness that needs help. I think it would be easier if she didn't need to exert so much energy just to get the serve in. She's fighting gravity when serving and lacks fluidity on the serve as a result.

If she doesn't get in shape, next thing you know her knees, ankles, and/or abdomen will suffer. I like Pav. She still unpolished like Kvitova. She's more than capable of moving up, but she has to want it enough.

:hysteric: you mean like a rocket straining to lift a heavy payload DONT YOU

Siderophyre
Aug 25th, 2011, 11:07 PM
Well she just took a set off Li Na in New Haven, so it ain't all bad news...

Edit: OK I take it back. Looks like a bagel in the third.

TheHangover
Aug 25th, 2011, 11:28 PM
i like her game, she can construct the points well and she looks professional on court despite her young age

young_gunner913
Aug 25th, 2011, 11:31 PM
She needs to lose a lot of weight. Her movement is on par with a brick at times.

DefyingGravity
Aug 25th, 2011, 11:37 PM
She needs to lose a lot of weight. Her movement is on par with a brick at times.

No no, a brick is Laura Robson, remember?

Pavs at least moves like a little burro.

C. Drone
Aug 25th, 2011, 11:39 PM
Well she just took a set off Li Na in New Haven, so it ain't all bad news...

Edit: OK I take it back. Looks like a bagel in the third.

maybe because twisted her ankle in 3rd?

madmax
Aug 25th, 2011, 11:42 PM
she has the best groundies on tour after Maria - that's how talented this gal is:bowdown: But too many weaknesses in her game to overcome unfortunately...hopefully she will put it together at some point in her career

young_gunner913
Aug 25th, 2011, 11:57 PM
No no, a brick is Laura Robson, remember?

Pavs at least moves like a little burro.

Laura is Laura Rockson.

dsanders06
Aug 26th, 2011, 12:00 AM
Actually, the second set today was the first time I've ever been impressed with her (for some reason the few times I've seen her have only ever been when she's playing shockers). She was really wallopping that forehand at times... she does seem to have great timing. But like Sam Smith was saying, she really needs to just focus on her strengths as an aggressive ballstriker, rather than that second-rate counterpunching she was attempting in the first set, because she's simply never going to have the movement to execute that effectively.

MechWarrior2k
Sep 5th, 2011, 03:35 PM
I'm curious to see if Pavlyuchenkova will modify her serve to get better weight transfer. That area definitely needs improvement.

-Sonic-
Sep 5th, 2011, 03:39 PM
Considering the stick Bartoli gets... Pav gets off lightly.

-Sonic-
Sep 5th, 2011, 03:39 PM
no pun.

GrandMartha
Sep 5th, 2011, 03:43 PM
Like all other Russians she has no idea how to make use of her talent. :tape:
A typical russian headcase. :sad:

Coconut91
Sep 5th, 2011, 03:54 PM
In this case I think her size is only effecting her game to a certain degree...she's got good stamina and actually moves pretty well.

Agreed. Losing a bit of weight and gaining agility wouldn't hurt, but she moves better than people give her credit for. She's capable of good defense. I think serve is more of an issue. If only she would get it right...

FORZA SARITA
Sep 5th, 2011, 04:10 PM
i'm never impressed with her :lol:
she can only hit hard, hard and hard :yawn: no variety, sucky serve and net game :facepalm:

simonsaystennis
Sep 5th, 2011, 04:18 PM
Her weight isn't even her biggest problem. She's a headcase :tape: I hope she can realize her potential one day, but for some reason I doubt she will...

MechWarrior2k
Sep 5th, 2011, 10:47 PM
She moves on to the QF DESPITE her serve. She's trying to be a hybrid of Sharapova and Dementieva when it comes to serving.

mdterp01
Sep 5th, 2011, 10:53 PM
Mary Carillo put it kindly when she said Fattypoo suffers a "lack of discipline" earlier in her match with Franny.

misty1
Sep 5th, 2011, 11:00 PM
i see nothing wrong with her. Why is it that anyone with meat on their bones gets bashed here?

Simugna Help
Sep 5th, 2011, 11:06 PM
Needless fat negatively affects both speed and endurance. Additionally you'd kind of expect professional athletes to be more careful about their nutrition since it's crucial for their on court performance, hence the comments about "lack of discipline".

RenaSlam.
Sep 6th, 2011, 12:27 AM
She's PavlyuCHOKEva before Babyfatchenkova. She should've EASILY made the finals at the French.

Sadly, the quicker the courts get, the worse she plays. She's very good on clay and may make some noise next year but I'm not expecting much from her at Flushing Meadows.

Good call. Spot on. :rolleyes:

miffedmax
Sep 6th, 2011, 03:06 AM
She's got a pretty big frame. She could probably work to be in better shape, but she's never going to look like Makiri or the ex-banged one.

tkutsaar
Sep 6th, 2011, 04:21 AM
According to US Open players bio Anastasia is listed as 5'10" (178 cm) and weighs 159 lbs (72.3 kg). That does not seem fat to me.

Justin SW
Sep 6th, 2011, 04:26 AM
^Serena was listed as 135 lbs a year ago...but clearly wasnt lol...they simply don't adjust that stuff often. Serena is now 150ish

tkutsaar
Sep 6th, 2011, 04:35 AM
^Serena was listed as 135 lbs a year ago...but clearly wasnt lol...they simply don't adjust that stuff often. Serena is now 150ish

Well no matter Anastasia still seems to me to be a gorgeous voluptuous woman. And yes I confess I love full bodied woman.

Excelscior
Sep 6th, 2011, 05:08 AM
According to US Open players bio Anastasia is listed as 5'10" (178 cm) and weighs 159 lbs (72.3 kg). That does not seem fat to me.

Do you honestly believe Pav's is 159 pounds?

Try more like 180-190lb. Those player bios are never accurate.

Same with Serena for the other poster. She was never 135lb. I always saw her listed at matches in the past at 155-160lb (so she was probably 165lb), and is more likely 170-185lbs recently.

Same with Wozniaki, Sharapova (though she's not fat or flabby in the least bit) and so many others. They lie about their weights all the time. You shouldn't be surprised.

Those bios never tell the truth.

knoxt
Sep 6th, 2011, 05:16 AM
I have to say she is quite one-dimensional - but not as much as Maria is.

bandabou
Sep 6th, 2011, 05:49 AM
She needs to drop s couple of pounds...she's a good game, but fitness is part of tennis too.

Coconut91
Sep 6th, 2011, 09:01 AM
She needs to drop s couple of pounds...she's a good game, but fitness is part of tennis too.

True. But I think that, even if we don't get to see it, she's very well aware of this and has the desire and determination to improve. She's always talking about improving, working hard and building her game for the future.
Apparently she's going to a boot camp after USO to improve her fitness, so she may be aware of her weaknesses after all :) I'm excited to see the result :lol:

Navratil
Sep 6th, 2011, 09:25 AM
She reminds me a little bit of Capriati.

But Capriati had a very dangerous serve and was much more solid on her baseline shots. Pavlyuchenkova's strokes don't look that natural and fluent.

But she'll be Top Ten pretty soon! That's great :)

C. Drone
Sep 6th, 2011, 11:00 AM
She reminds me a little bit of Capriati.

But Capriati had a very dangerous serve and was much more solid on her baseline shots. Pavlyuchenkova's strokes don't look that natural and fluent.

But she'll be Top Ten pretty soon! That's great :)

Its enough while she hits FH like the matchpoint winner against Schiavone. :kiss:

StoneRose
Sep 6th, 2011, 11:08 AM
i see nothing wrong with her. Why is it that anyone with meat on their bones gets bashed here?:yeah:.

-Sonic-
Sep 6th, 2011, 11:31 AM
Apparently she's going to a boot camp after USO to improve her fitness, so she may be aware of her weaknesses after all :) I'm excited to see the result :lol:

Our commentators said this also. They also bandied around the figure of 20-25lb that she is aiming to lose. Thats a lot to do all at once if there is any truth in it.

As an aside, I float between 145-150lb and I am 5 ft 10. I have PLENTY of work that I need to do on my body, and whilst I am a man/she is a woman and I'm not a professional sportsperson/she is, theres still a valid comparison there. I know I'd at least not be bursting out the seams of my adidas top & skirt :p

But yeah, hopefully a dramatic loss won't affect her game negatively - I am bored of not enjoying watching her on TV as she is on TV a lot. I want to enjoy the tennis I watch.

Mixal
Sep 6th, 2011, 12:19 PM
She's got a pretty big frame. She could probably work to be in better shape, but she's never going to look like Makiri or the ex-banged one.

Exactly. She just has that type of body. She can lose her belly, though.



As an aside, I float between 145-150lb and I am 5 ft 10. I have PLENTY of work that I need to do on my body.

:scratch: That like 68 kilos, right? May I ask what kind of work? :lol:

jimmy_the_greek
Sep 6th, 2011, 12:26 PM
Pavly has come a really long way, and its really good to see her doing well. I think Serena will win comfortably however it doesn't mean by any means that Pavly hasn't played a good US Open this year.:)

Coconut91
Sep 6th, 2011, 01:59 PM
Our commentators said this also. They also bandied around the figure of 20-25lb that she is aiming to lose. Thats a lot to do all at once if there is any truth in it.

That's a lot of weight to lose indeed. That can't be true :scared:... I was thinking 11 lb should be enough :lol:

Maria rocks
Sep 6th, 2011, 02:23 PM
Gets better everytime i see her. Bright future ahead i would say.

-Sonic-
Sep 6th, 2011, 03:05 PM
That's a lot of weight to lose indeed. That can't be true :scared:... I was thinking 11 lb should be enough :lol:

In all fairness, it was Annabell Croft who said that figure, so definitely needs to be taken with a pinch of salt hehe.

Excelscior
Sep 6th, 2011, 03:51 PM
Our commentators said this also. They also bandied around the figure of 20-25lb that she is aiming to lose. Thats a lot to do all at once if there is any truth in it.

As an aside, I float between 145-150lb and I am 5 ft 10. I have PLENTY of work that I need to do on my body, and whilst I am a man/she is a woman and I'm not a professional sportsperson/she is, theres still a valid comparison there. I know I'd at least not be bursting out the seams of my adidas top & skirt :p

But yeah, hopefully a dramatic loss won't affect her game negatively - I am bored of not enjoying watching her on TV as she is on TV a lot. I want to enjoy the tennis I watch.

I hope at 5'10" 145-150lb, you only want to gain weight and/or tone-tighten up your body.

You certainly wouldn't need to lose any more weight, IMO. Lol

As far as Pavy, I'm sure the weight loss (especially if it's that much) will do wonders for her career and performance. Anastasia already plays well now for her weight, though I'm not sure how that weight affects her overall endurance and eventual joint pain, wear and tear?

Good Luck to both you and her, now and in the future.

lupojohn
Sep 6th, 2011, 08:39 PM
Gets better everytime i see her. Bright future ahead i would say.

Johnny Mac said she has Top 5 talent, and considering he said at Wimbledon 2010 that Petra would be in the Top 10 by this year's Wimbledon, we should probably go by what he says.

tennnisfannn
Sep 6th, 2011, 09:42 PM
what if she loses her power? someplayers lose weight and it does not do a whole lot of good for them.

MechWarrior2k
Sep 10th, 2011, 05:04 PM
Has Pav started her boot camp?

borrowedheaven
Sep 10th, 2011, 05:23 PM
what if she loses her power? someplayers lose weight and it does not do a whole lot of good for them.
Losing weight is not the same as losing muscles. I think that's a popular misconception here on TF.

MechWarrior2k
Jan 21st, 2012, 04:36 PM
Any chance she sheds the spare tire ala Kvitova?

Ian Aberdon
Jan 21st, 2012, 05:17 PM
More likely that she's found a new bakery...:devil: