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BarsonlyOne
Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:15 PM
I remember the days when the New Haven tournament was played by all the top players. I remember when players like steffi, monica, lindsay, justine, the williams, capriati and hingis played this tournament. Has the respect for the tournament gone away? It used to produce such great matches there.

In The Zone
Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:17 PM
Serena never played here.

The last legitimate event for me was 2006 with the Henin/Davenport final. Since then, it's been a joke. This was the event Venus Williams defeated Justine Henin, Jennifer Capriati, and Lindsay Davenport in a two-day span. Can you imagine that at an event like this? I don't think so.

2001 event had:
Venus
Davenport
Capriati
Clijsters
Henin
Mauresmo
Dementieva
Tauziat

I believe the US Open Series and the roadmap destroyed this event.

C. Drone
Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:24 PM
I remember the days when the New Haven tournament was played by all the top players. I remember when players like steffi, monica, lindsay, justine, the williams, capriati and hingis played this tournament. Has the respect for the tournament gone away? It used to produce such great matches there.

what? it isnt that bad.

current #1 Wozniacki
former #1 Junkovic
current RG champ Li Na
2 time slam champ Kuznetsova
USO favorite Radwanska
...

Jimmie48
Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:26 PM
What's really bad about this tournament is the media coverage. For christ's sake, even Bastad was streamed completely.... and there's zero coverage from New Haven until Thursday..pathetic.

Purple_Rain
Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:30 PM
What's really bad about this tournament is the media coverage. For christ's sake, even Bastad was streamed completely.... and there's zero coverage from New Haven until Thursday..pathetic.

This. Dallas has streams, and it's a brand new event with fewer top players. Why not New Haven?

danieln1
Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:41 PM
what? it isnt that bad.

current #1 Wozniacki
former #1 Junkovic
current RG champ Li Na
2 time slam champ Kuznetsova
USO favorite Radwanska
...

:facepalm:

Please, donīt compare this players from the ones in 2001

C. Drone
Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:51 PM
:facepalm:

Please, donīt compare this players from the ones in 2001

its always easy speaking from 10 years distance. :lol:
in 2001, was the tournament better only because Clijsters, Henin, Tauziat, Mauresmo, Dementieva?
maybe in 2021 people gonna praise the current field.

RenaSlam.
Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:52 PM
its always easy speaking from 10 years distance. :lol:
in 2001, was the tournament better only because Clijsters, Henin, Tauziat, Mauresmo, Dementieva?
maybe in 2021 people gonna praise the current field.

Dubious comment.

C. Drone
Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:53 PM
Dubious comment.

plain nostalgia isnt much better.

Jimmie48
Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:56 PM
plain nostalgia isnt much better.

Funny to see how that's the same in pretty much all sports though. The past is always glorified, nobody seems to be willing the boring matches/tournaments of that era.

duhcity
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:05 AM
Funny to see how that's the same in pretty much all sports though. The past is always glorified, nobody seems to be willing the boring matches/tournaments of that era.

That's the thing driving this forum :lol: Hindsight makes it seem like every match played in every tournament 10 years was quality.

tennisbum79
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:14 AM
That's the thing driving this forum :lol: Hindsight makes it seem like every match played in every tournament 10 years was quality.
I agree with you, not every match players 10 ago were better than today's matches.

However, this particular lineup was quiet impressive and the matches were really high quality
You could feel the wind of change in the air, you could feel the WTA was on the move and in the right direction..

2001 event had:
Venus
Davenport
Capriati
Clijsters
Henin
Mauresmo
Dementieva
Tauziat

melodynelson
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:14 AM
its always easy speaking from 10 years distance. :lol:
in 2001, was the tournament better only because Clijsters, Henin, Tauziat, Mauresmo, Dementieva?
maybe in 2021 people gonna praise the current field.

I remember in 2000 Clijsters and Henin were already exciting prospects, let alone 2001. By New Haven 2001 Dementieva had had a nice season prior and had been top ten in 2001, Clijsters and Henin had had great French/Wimbledon runs, Mauresmo was top ten, Tauziat was near her peak and a top player.

These players are just more interesting than the current ones now. It isn't just about quality, the players now aren't interesting, exciting or all that memorable. Give me Tauziat, any of these players, over Wozniacki any day. They were all part of some great, exciting matches by that point, AND in recent memory, so what gives?

Jankovic's most interesting matches lately were against Fran who is a showboat, Wozniacki is pretty much never part of any good matches, but at least there is Li and Bartoli who have given a good share of excitement this year.

Brad[le]y.
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:15 AM
true, there was much more depth in the field than there was now.

I just realized that Venus won 4 consecutive titles there :D

ptkten
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:32 AM
It's a shame but it's a combination of the fact that there are less top Americans than there were back then and that now there are two Premier 5's back to back before New Haven so you would be required to play three tournaments in a row before the U.S. Open if you played New Haven.

Also, I understand that nostalgia can sometimes be annoying but trust anyone who watched tennis back then, the tour was in much better shape. The top players were stars because they had personality and won week in and week out so it created strong rivalries. Hopefully the new girls can start stepping in and filling the void because the tour desperately needs it.

danieln1
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:34 AM
true, there was much more depth in the field than there was now.

I just realized that Venus won 4 consecutive titles there :D

Venus is so smart, she didnt want to tarnish her legacy in this tournament, she didnt lose a single match in thos tournament!

tennisbum79
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:47 AM
It's a shame but it's a combination of the fact that there are less top Americans than there were back then and that now there are two Premier 5's back to back before New Haven so you would be required to play three tournaments in a row before the U.S. Open if you played New Haven.

Also, I understand that nostalgia can sometimes be annoying but trust anyone who watched tennis back then, the tour was in much better shape. The top players were stars because they had personality and won week in and week out so it created strong rivalries. Hopefully the new girls can start stepping in and filling the void because the tour desperately needs it.

You could also the optimism and bold confidence as change was taking place. You had the sense things were good now, but they will be even better the next few years.



Carpiati, Hingis, Davenport, Henin, Seles, Venus and Serena had something different they bring to the table

There was a buzz about the USO everywhere, event Time Magazine got into the act, Venus Envy book was out

tennisbum79
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:51 AM
Here is a glimpse of summer 2001




Venus Envy: A Sensational Season Inside the Women's Tennis Tour




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by L. Jon Wertheim (http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/153280.L_Jon_Wertheim)
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Venus.
Serena.
Anna.
Martina.
Lindsay.



Like other modern-day heroines -- Madonna, Hillary, Mia -- they need only one name. They are the stars of professional tennis -- the young, brash, and often reckless women who hold court, and serve.


The last several years have seen such a seismic explosion in women's tennis that you might be surprised to learn there's still a men's game. Fans flock to the high-voltage matches, which come packaged with tales of infighting, family squabbles, and, of course, Anna Kournikova's micro-miniskirts. In Venus Envy, Sports Illustrated investigative reporter and tennis columnist L. Jon Wertheim draws back the curtain on the soap opera that is the women's professional tennis tour, with its primal plotlines driven by ambition, sex, and revenge.


Here are the stories behind the stories: the tragic Garbo-like star who whiles away hours in a midwestern hotel room because she's afraid to go outdoors; the teenager who tries to cope with the pressure of the big time as well as an abusive father; the brilliant number one who plays out her adolescent tantrums on the public stage; the coquette who launched a thousand Web sites; and a little-understood African-American family who proved that they could play by their own rules and still win the game -- not to mention the endorsements.


The biggest story in sports in 2000 was Venus Williams. Forced to the sidelines for the early months by injuries to both her wrists and her psyche, she stormed back to win Wimbledon, the U.S. Open, and two Olympic gold medals. Not since the glory days of Martina Navratilova -- and the historic days of Althea Gibson -- has women's tennis seen such a dominant champion with the rare combination of athleticism, intelligence, and competitive fire. By the time Venus signed the biggest endorsement deal ever for a female athlete, her opponents' sentiments could be described in just two words: Venus Envy.


source: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/262222.Venus_Envy

shoryuken
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:53 AM
true, there was much more depth in the field than there was now.

I just realized that Venus won 4 consecutive titles there :D

wow I miss this Venus :sad: Caro is looking to tie that record I see :lol:

Fuzzylogic
Aug 24th, 2011, 02:01 AM
wow I miss this Venus :sad: Caro is looking to tie that record I see :lol:

Comparable to Katy Perry tying Michael Jackson's record...I'll just leave it at that...

BarsonlyOne
Aug 24th, 2011, 02:18 AM
Comparable to Katy Perry tying Michael Jackson's record...I'll just leave it at that...

hehehe very funny:lol::lol: