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tennnisfannn
Aug 23rd, 2011, 01:15 PM
Not her parents, not lleyton & Bec and not even her one time almost-sis-in-law Kim attended the nuptials.
http://womansday.ninemsn.com.au/celebrityheadlines/8287637/leytons-sisters-sorrow-hewitt-family-feud

@little levity
Aug 23rd, 2011, 01:22 PM
It's like something right out of Neighbours!

Libertango
Aug 23rd, 2011, 01:29 PM
Lleyton's "smile" in that photo. :tape:

Is there anything likeable about the Hewitt's? ... ANYTHING?!

Mikey.
Aug 23rd, 2011, 01:36 PM
Lleyton's "smile" in that photo. :tape:

Is there anything likeable about the Hewitt's? ... ANYTHING?!

Not really. Lleyton... well do I even need to say anything about him? :lol: We all know what a douche he is. Bec on the other hand is lovely but boring as batshit, for lack of a better word.

Lachrymarum
Aug 23rd, 2011, 01:36 PM
I take it Jaslyn is no longer a bodybuilder.

goldenlox
Aug 23rd, 2011, 01:38 PM
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/303216942.jpg

tennnisfannn
Aug 23rd, 2011, 01:40 PM
she used to play doubles wih Kim's sister, they must have felt like the ugly step sisters seeing how well lleyton and kim were doing.

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 01:56 PM
Lleyton's "smile" in that photo. :tape:

Is there anything likeable about the Hewitt's? ... ANYTHING?!

NO...NO

Ashi
Aug 23rd, 2011, 02:05 PM
Wasn't Jasyln in a relationship with ATP player Joachim Johansson?. I clearly remember her sitting in his box during his USOPEN run to the semis.
Pretty sad overall, not having her family at her wedding. :awww:

Super Dave
Aug 23rd, 2011, 02:06 PM
I take it Jaslyn is no longer a bodybuilder.

She's still building on it, all right...:eek:

Problem is it's now way over budget ;)

Ashi
Aug 23rd, 2011, 02:09 PM
http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/303216942.jpg
:speakles: For real? :unsure:

Ryan
Aug 23rd, 2011, 02:16 PM
There's got to be something deeper here - her parents don't like that the groom is Australian-Lebanese? Not buying it - something must have happened.

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 02:30 PM
There's got to be something deeper here - her parents don't like that the groom is Australian-Lebanese? Not buying it - something must have happened.

You're right. I don't think his ethnics background is the issue (although you never know, Hewit has his own issue with race, so it could run in the family), there is a hint that they don't like the guy as a person.

Even the brother Hewit and his wife did not attend, citing scheduling conflict

Sammo
Aug 23rd, 2011, 02:39 PM
She actually had a really nice face, so hot. But of course there was the muscle thing, yuck... And now she's fat? Can't she just be fit?

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 02:42 PM
She actually had a really nice face, so hot. But of course there was the muscle thing, yuck... And now she's fat? Can't she just be fit?

It seems to me, after taking that many supplement and growth hormones, it is hard for your body to get used in processing normal food, which she'll probably need to get fit and bring her body in normal proportion.

tennisfan5
Aug 23rd, 2011, 03:06 PM
scheduling conflict? lame. Isner missed his brother's wedding for playing a rinky dink tournament. kinda pathetic

Whitehead's Boy
Aug 23rd, 2011, 03:18 PM
scheduling conflict? lame.

It's probably a convenient excuse.

A family dispute often equal choosing a side. Not a shock Hewitt is siding with his parents.

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 03:24 PM
It's probably a convenient excuse.

A family dispute often equal choosing a side. Not a shock Hewitt is siding with his parents.
So what exactly is the reason why the family does not like the then fiance, not the husband of their daughter/sister?

I am asking because you have an Australian flag and assume you might know something.

The article is very brief and has little on the underlining reasons.

Julian.
Aug 23rd, 2011, 03:39 PM
I can't believe she went from this:

http://www.sportlive.it/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/jaslyn_hewitt_model_bodybui.jpg
to that ^

and to this (left):

http://womansday.ninemsn.com.au/img/2011/inthemag/35/bec-hewitt.jpg

:hysteric::speakles:

Those are 3 very extreme different types of body :sobbing:

Ashi
Aug 23rd, 2011, 04:07 PM
scheduling conflict? lame. Isner missed his brother's wedding for playing a rinky dink tournament. kinda pathetic

This is really pathetic IMO. Family, make that immediate family will make it a point to attend their sibling's wedding. Or could be that they don't share a close relationship.

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 23rd, 2011, 04:19 PM
Pathetic. Leyton has always been a miserable prick but towards his own family?

And her mother is pathetic. She of all people should be the most ashamed of herself.

I wish her and her new husband the best. I am curious to know why they (the family) were against the union.

Ferg
Aug 23rd, 2011, 04:25 PM
Well Lleyton is racist and the apple doesnt fall far from the tree as they say so I wouldnt be surprised if it was the husbands Lebenese background that they didnt like.

Mynarco
Aug 23rd, 2011, 05:03 PM
This Jaslyn looks like a mixture of Kim and Vera Zvonareva

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 23rd, 2011, 05:13 PM
Well Lleyton is racist and the apple doesnt fall far from the tree as they say so I wouldnt be surprised if it was the husbands Lebenese background that they didnt like.

:yeah:

*JR*
Aug 23rd, 2011, 05:15 PM
she used to play doubles wih Kim's sister...

Elke the wildcard queen! :inlove:

http://img.skysports.com/10/08/496x259/Elke-Clijsters-WAGS-Stags_2486967.jpg

Ashi
Aug 23rd, 2011, 05:18 PM
Wasn't Kim and Lleyton's relationship strained after they were engaged due to differences between Kim and his mother? Or was this pure speculation?

Serenita
Aug 23rd, 2011, 05:23 PM
Well Lleyton is racist and the apple doesnt fall far from the tree as they say so I wouldnt be surprised if it was the husbands Lebenese background that they didnt like.
Exactly, :shrug:
Sad for Jaslyn wish her all the happiness in the world.

timafi
Aug 23rd, 2011, 06:47 PM
the groom is Lebanese so of course they'd miss it ... I mean we all remember Hewitt's racist comment towards the linesjudge at the USO :help:
will never forgive James Blake for pussying out that day.He should have walked up to Hewitt and punch the racist fuck out of him;right then and there:(

hey Jas honey you are from them but you don't fucking need them.I have not heard 1 damn thing positive about this bunch.I wish you nothing but luck;success and happiness :D

Sammo
Aug 23rd, 2011, 07:13 PM
the groom is Lebanese so of course they'd miss it ... I mean we all remember Hewitt's racist comment towards the linesjudge at the USO :help:
will never forgive James Blake for pussying out that day.He should have walked up to Hewitt and punch the racist fuck out of him;right then and there:(

hey Jas honey you are from them but you don't fucking need them.I have not heard 1 damn thing positive about this bunch.I wish you nothing but luck;success and happiness :D

I'm not gonna defend at all what Hewitt did but there was actually a possibility that the racist one was the line judge, he had given Hewitt a few bad calls

winone23
Aug 23rd, 2011, 07:16 PM
I don't think any of us have a right to judge this situation. We have no idea what kind of man Jaslyn married. Maybe her family knows something we don't.

Consigliere
Aug 23rd, 2011, 07:19 PM
lleytons old coach roger rasheed was lebanese-australian

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 07:20 PM
I'm not gonna defend at all what Hewitt did but there was actually a possibility that the racist one was the line judge, he had given Hewitt a few bad calls
Wow, so anytime a line from judge giive a bad to aplyer of different race, it is racism?


I wonder ow many bad calls Serena, Venus, Li Na have gotten over the years.


Most line judges at tennis tournaments are neither black nor Asian.

Sammo
Aug 23rd, 2011, 07:21 PM
Lleyton's "smile" in that photo. :tape:

Is there anything likeable about the Hewitt's? ... ANYTHING?!

His game :shrug:

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 07:22 PM
lleytons old coach roger rasheed was lebanese-australian
Well, you can employ them, but can't marry into them.

White southerners plantation workforce was exclusively black, so...

Nicolás89
Aug 23rd, 2011, 07:42 PM
Well, you can employ them, but can't marry into them.

White southerners plantation workforce was exclusively black, so...

I don't like Hewitt but this whole thread is a mess and this poster needs... :help:
Hewitt had a close relationship with his coach.

currie84
Aug 23rd, 2011, 07:45 PM
If she starts wearing a burqa now,it could give a hint as to why her parents were against it.

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 07:49 PM
I don't like Hewitt but this whole thread is a mess and this poster needs... :help:
Hewitt had a close relationship with his coach.
I was just responding to the post, the reasoning of the post

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 07:50 PM
If she starts wearing a burqa now,it could give a hint as to why her parents were against it.
I thought he was Australian, why would she be wearing burka?

Libertango
Aug 23rd, 2011, 07:52 PM
His game :shrug:

Definitely not.

mykarma
Aug 23rd, 2011, 07:58 PM
I'm not gonna defend at all what Hewitt did but there was actually a possibility that the racist one was the line judge, he had given Hewitt a few bad calls
What an idiotic statement.

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tennisbum79 http://imgsrv2.tennisuniverse.com/wtaworld/images2007/buttons/lastpost.gif (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?p=20108931#post20108931)
Well, you can employ them, but can't marry into them.

White southerners plantation workforce was exclusively black, so...
I don't like Hewitt but this whole thread is a mess and this poster needs... :help:
Hewitt had a close relationship with his coach.


I really do not appreciate your bad rep on mys post above.
This is a discussion board, we have to keep reasonable discussion in the open.


Unless you break certain rule of the forum, there is no reason to bad rep anyone.

That was a perfectly sensible rebuttal to that post, you are abusing the system by your bad rep.

Do you plan to bad rep Sammo for stating the bad calls Hewitt got at the USO were due racial bias?

currie84
Aug 23rd, 2011, 08:02 PM
I thought he was Australian, why would she be wearing burka?

Maybe he's a devout muslim and wants his wife to be modest and all.He could also be in favor of polygamy and practise it in the future,it's allowed in Koran,who knows.

Jaelyn's parents propably didn't want their daughter to be just an anonymous member of a harem

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 23rd, 2011, 08:29 PM
If she starts wearing a burqa now,it could give a hint as to why her parents were against it.

Maybe he's a devout muslim and wants his wife to be modest and all.He could also be in favor of polygamy and practise it in the future,it's allowed in Koran,who knows.

Jaelyn's parents propably didn't want their daughter to be just an anonymous member of a harem

not only are you a moron but a racist moron
50% of lebanese people are christian as well

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 08:32 PM
Maybe he's a devout muslim and wants his wife to be modest and all.He could also be in favor of polygamy and practise it in the future,it's allowed in Koran,who knows.

Jaelyn's parents propably didn't want their daughter to be just an anonymous member of a harem
You're putting lot out there.
Can this information be substantiated? Is there anything in his family to support what you are saying?
Polygamy, Islamic conservative who could force his wife to wear burka


Maybe you'll receive a bad rep from mathias for making these statements w/o eveidence.

dragonflies
Aug 23rd, 2011, 08:48 PM
I'm not gonna defend at all what Hewitt did but there was actually a possibility that the racist one was the line judge, he had given Hewitt a few bad calls



I agree with a poster that we are not in the position to judge in this particular case, b/c we don't have enough information. However, just for the sake of discussion for this specific circumtance, it does look bad in the public eyes, especially given the Hewitts' popularity in Australian.


It's a huge humilation for the daughter to be exposed to the media like that in a day that is supposed to be her life's happiest day. I know a lots of wedding where the groom/ bride were not the spouse's parents' cup of tea, yet they still showed up in the wedding, despite showing little affection to the groom/bride. Anyhow, It was their daughter/son after all.


For the Hewitt's incidence, I believe it was a footfault that was called in the case, similar with Serena's case. The line judge was a black man, so he probably wasn't fair toward Hewitt. It was the manner that Hewitt handled the incident that caused controversy. He could just asked to removed the line judge saying he was unfairness. Instead, Hewitt dragged Black into his accusation, implied the " similarity" of Black and the linejudge was the reason caused the linejudge againsted him. And Black was mixed (his mother was white). That was the reason it caused controversy at the tournament.


Hewitt was finally given a free pass after the incident, but he looks like a racist in many people's eyes. This wedding fiasco again doesn't help his cause.

Ryan
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:14 PM
Umm, why are people automatically assuming the parents are at fault here? ANYTHING could have happened - a fight, the groom being rude to the parents (or vice versa); her family may have not even been invited/welcome at the wedding! It's a messed up situation, but lets not start sentencing people. :lol:

Beny
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:23 PM
There's got to be something deeper here - her parents don't like that the groom is Australian-Lebanese? Not buying it - something must have happened.

She said already a lot of years ago that you dont choose your family, but do choose your friends or sth like that..

She doesnt feel her family are the best people out there

Javi.
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:23 PM
First, Jaslyn was never a wta player. Only ITF and some random WC. She was bad. She was just Lleyton's sister.
Second, If you don't know a shit about her, her family and circumstances, how you dare to judge so easily? :facepalm:

Ryan
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:28 PM
She said already a lot of years ago that you dont choose your family, but do choose your friends or sth like that..

She doesnt feel her family are the best people out there



Which may mean her family are shit, or that she's shit. :shrug: It doesn't clarify anything at all.

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:32 PM
Umm, why are people automatically assuming the parents are at fault here? ANYTHING could have happened - a fight, the groom being rude to the parents (or vice versa); her family may have not even been invited/welcome at the wedding! It's a messed up situation, but lets not start sentencing people. :lol:
I thought it was established the the parents and Lleyton declined to attend, are you now saying there is a possibility they may not have been invited?

Yes there are accusations on both sides, but there is a third point being made here.

Some posters are arguing that Lleyton Hewit being a public figure in Australia, she should not have cited scheduling conflict as reason not attend her only sister's wedding.
still is possible that Hewit has major issue with the groom, but, the argument continues, at times like these, familyt is more important, and by not going, he is publicly humiliating his little sister.

Accusation against the groom for potential to lead an fundamental Islamist-like life style after they get married, there is not fact to support that.


The charges of racism against the Hewits is inferred given Lleyton Hewits past history further re-reinforced, fairly or unfairly, by his decline to attend the wedding.

Beny
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:35 PM
Which may mean her family are shit, or that she's shit. :shrug: It doesn't clarify anything at all.

Ut clarifies everything.

What is shit for me doesnt have to be shit for you.

Some people would never have approved giving up one´s family just because you dont like them. So for them she is shit.

For me she is right. If you are born to a terrible family, you dont have to be thankful to them for the rest of your life for raising you if you cant stand them. So they are shit.

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:41 PM
First, Jaslyn was never a wta player. Only ITF and some random WC. She was bad. She was just Lleyton's sister.

How is this relevant.
It seems because you don't like Jaslyn , reducing her to "just Lleyton sister", no one should feel sorry that her family is not going to her wedding

Second, If you don't know a shit about her, her family and circumstances, how you dare to judge so easily? :facepalm:
This is fair point.
I think people are really sorry for Jaslyn, yes it comes across as judging the entire family because it her against her family.

Ryan
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:43 PM
Ut clarifies everything.

What is shit for me doesnt have to be shit for you.

Some people would never have approved giving up one´s family just because you dont like them. So for them she is shit.

For me she is right. If you are born to a terrible family, you dont have to be thankful to them for the rest of your life for raising you if you cant stand them. So they are shit.



Wuuuuut are you talking about? :lol: Her comment hardly clarifies anything; don't you realize there are always two sides to a story?

mykarma
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:45 PM
I agree with a poster that we are not in the position to judge in this particular case, b/c we don't have enough information. However, just for the sake of discussion for this specific circumtance, it does look bad in the public eyes, especially given the Hewitts' popularity in Australian.


It's a huge humilation for the daughter to be exposed to the media like that in a day that is supposed to be her life's happiest day. I know a lots of wedding where the groom/ bride were not the spouse's parents' cup of tea, yet they still showed up in the wedding, despite showing little affection to the groom/bride. Anyhow, It was their daughter/son after all.


For the Hewitt's incidence, I believe it was a footfault that was called in the case, similar with Serena's case. The line judge was a black man, so he probably wasn't fair toward Hewitt. It was the manner that Hewitt handled the incident that caused controversy. He could just asked to removed the line judge saying he was unfairness. Instead, Hewitt dragged Black into his accusation, implied the " similarity" of Black and the linejudge was the reason caused the linejudge againsted him. And Black was mixed (his mother was white). That was the reason it caused controversy at the tournament.


Hewitt was finally given a free pass after the incident, but he looks like a racist in many people's eyes. This wedding fiasco again doesn't help his cause.
I agreed with your post until I read the bolded part. Are you saying that because the lines person was black he couldn't be fair to Hewitt? Please tell me that you misspoke and meant to say something else.

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:50 PM
I agreed with your post until I read the bolded part. Are you saying that because the lines person was black he couldn't be fair to Hewitt? Please tell me that you misspoke and meant to say something else.
People don't even realizes it when they make these statements so casually.

If you take this reasoning to its logical conclusion, then Venus and Serena have been victims of numerous case of racism.

dragonflies
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:50 PM
Lleyton's "smile" in that photo. :tape:

Is there anything likeable about the Hewitt's? ... ANYTHING?!



I once heard years ago a male commentator said Hewitt was a "good looking" guy when mentioned he dumped Kim for Bec.
:tape::eek::scared:

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:56 PM
I really do not appreciate your bad rep on mys post above.
This is a discussion board, we have to keep reasonable discussion in the open.


Unless you break certain rule of the forum, there is no reason to bad rep anyone.

That was a perfectly sensible rebuttal to that post, you are abusing the system by your bad rep.

Do you plan to bad rep Sammo for stating the bad calls Hewitt got at the USO were due racial bias?

Are you for real here? :help: I didn't know people took badreps THAT seriously...

How is this relevant.
It seems because you don't like Jaslyn , reducing her to "just Lleyton sister", no one should feel sorry that her family is not going to her wedding


Talk about drawing conclusions from nothing. He stated a fact that she wasn't really a WTA player and you go blahblah that he doesn't like her and that other bs in your post. And yes, she is only known for being Lleyton's sister.

mykarma
Aug 23rd, 2011, 09:58 PM
People don't even realizes it when they make these statements so casually.

If you take this reasoning to its logical conclusion, then Venus and Serena have been victims of numerous case of racism.
In addition to that it means that all of the calls that went against the sisters were racist because the lines person in most cases were white. :cuckoo:

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 10:03 PM
Are you for real here? :help: I didn't know people took badreps THAT seriously...
I see bad reps as cowardice.

It you have something to, say it in the open, that what the forum is for.



Talk about drawing conclusions from nothing. He stated a fact that she wasn't really a WTA player and you go blahblah that he doesn't like her and that other bs in your post. And yes, she is only known for being Lleyton's sister.

No he did not just state that, he tries to diminish her.
But again, how is stating that is relevant to the discussion?

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 10:04 PM
In addition to that it means that all of the calls that went against the sisters were racist because the lines person in most cases were white. :cuckoo:
Yeah, I made that point earlier, and threw Na Li in the mix.

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 23rd, 2011, 10:09 PM
I see bad reps as cowardice.

It you have something to, say it in the open, that what the forum is for.

No he did not just state that, he tries to diminish her.
But again, how is stating that is relevant to the discussion?

It's relevant to the thread title. And yeah, always conspiracy.

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 10:14 PM
It's relevant to the thread title. And yeah, always conspiracy.
You are not serious.

Why, I disagree, she has the right to stand alone.
WE post ITF results here, we talk about ITF players careers, so why is she not deserving?

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 23rd, 2011, 10:16 PM
You are not serious.

Why, I disagree, she has the right to stand alone.
WE post ITT results here, we talk about ITT players careers, so why is she not deserving?


I have completely no idea what you're talking about in this post :confused:

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 10:18 PM
I have completely no idea what you're talking about in this post :confused:
Then it is good place to end the discussion.

Nicolás89
Aug 23rd, 2011, 10:20 PM
I really do not appreciate your bad rep on mys post above.
This is a discussion board, we have to keep reasonable discussion in the open.


Unless you break certain rule of the forum, there is no reason to bad rep anyone.

That was a perfectly sensible rebuttal to that post, you are abusing the system by your bad rep.

Do you plan to bad rep Sammo for stating the bad calls Hewitt got at the USO were due racial bias?

You got it all twisted, I think you're describing the report button. Just as you good rep someone because you liked their comments you can bad rep them because of the opposite and seriously you were comparing a player/coach relationship with the plantations in the american south, I think a bad rep was in order. Oh and I did bad repped sammo.

Kim's_fan_4ever
Aug 23rd, 2011, 10:24 PM
Then it is good place to end the discussion.

You know what's your problem? You lack basic comprehending skills. I was just trying to help you understand that post you quoted but I failed. Also, I never said that JH's person didn't deserve a thread in GM. You need to stop reading to much into people's posts and creating unreal theories.

tennisbum79
Aug 23rd, 2011, 10:29 PM
You got it all twisted, I think you're describing the report button. Just as you good rep someone because you liked their comments you can bad rep them because of the opposite and seriously you were comparing a player/coach relationship with the plantations in the american south, I think a bad rep was in order. Oh and I did bad repped sammo.
I strongly disagree, but I will not bad rep you for that.

And that is what you did.


BTW, how many bad reps do you dispense each day; you must run out of your quota very often

Lachrymarum
Aug 24th, 2011, 12:10 AM
And yet another (at first) intriguing thread has turned into a complete train wreck :rolleyes:

Ziggy Starduck
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:41 AM
It will all come out in the wash, Lleyton will expect to be paid some exorbitant amount of money by Woman's Day to respond to this story :tape: This is a gossip magazine not 60 minutes so don't expect too much :shrug:

On a side note - Lleyton isn't beloved by all aussies ;)

fawnrc
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:57 AM
Then it is good place to end the discussion.

lol, I have to agree...just stop it there, there is a disconnect.

Raiden
Aug 24th, 2011, 04:03 AM
I'm not gonna defend at all what Hewitt did but there was actually a possibility that the racist one was the line judge, he had given Hewitt a few bad calls

But possibility doesn't equal reality. Although indeed that's probably what Lleyton felt about the decision. That's why I'd characterize his reaction as more out of paranoid ignorance rather than rabid racism (Lleyton ignorantly ASSumed that a black linejudge would automatically be partial/favorable/be-a-homer to black players, in this case James Blake.

Dani12
Aug 24th, 2011, 04:10 AM
But possibility doesn't equal reality. Although indeed that's probably what Lleyton felt about the decision. That's why I'd characterize his reaction as more out of paranoid ignorance rather than rabid racism (Lleyton ignorantly ASSumed that a black linejudge would automatically be partial/favorable/be-a-homer to black players, in this case James Blake.

He wasn't the first and he won't be the last player to do it either. Vika did it to Jarmila Gajdosova and an umpire in Brisbane. Hewitt's was just blown way out of proportion.

Caesar1844
Aug 24th, 2011, 05:26 AM
Even the brother Hewit and his wife did not attend, citing scheduling conflict
If my brother was a former USO champion who always turns in his best Slam results at Flushing Meadows, and he was playing possibly his final season on tour... I probably wouldn't schedule my wedding on the other side of the world for the week before the tournament started.

TBH that kind of sends me the message that she probably didn't really want him there anyway.

the groom is Lebanese so of course they'd miss it ... I mean we all remember Hewitt's racist comment towards the linesjudge at the USO :help:
Hewitt is an arsehole, a loudmouth and an inconsiderate prick, but he isn't racist. The USO comment was paranoid and contemptible, but I've met the guy and I'd bet my house that it didn't stem from any sort of genuinely-held racist belief.

Anyway, if he was genuinely racist towards Lebanese people then Roger Rasheed wouldn't be one of Hewitt's closest friends. If he does actually hate the guy I'm pretty confident it would be for entirely more personal reasons.

The article linked in the first post is pure tabloid journalism - 10% fact and 90% breathless speculation. Facts? The Hewitts weren't there. Reasonable assumption? There's some kind of family rift.

Anything else - what it may be, who's to blame, etc. - is just completely pointless to try and divine.

Libertango
Aug 24th, 2011, 05:45 AM
^I do see what you're saying, but let's not fall into this trap that because someone has an "ethnic" friend, they can't be racist. They can be. Also, it's remarkable how usually tolerant people can show their true colours once someone from a different ethnic background marries into their family; the thought of mixed race children sends some people running for the hills :tape:

I'm not commenting on the Hewitt case here, just talking generally, because you are right - the article is provocative. Essentially, none of us know what's been going on, so it's all speculative, gossipy etc. We shouldn't judge something we don't really know nything about.

I agree with a poster that we are not in the position to judge in this particular case, b/c we don't have enough information. However, just for the sake of discussion for this specific circumtance, it does look bad in the public eyes, especially given the Hewitts' popularity in Australian.

Are the Hewitt's popular? Or...? I don't know anything about this.


For the Hewitt's incidence, I believe it was a footfault that was called in the case, similar with Serena's case. The line judge was a black man, so he probably wasn't fair toward Hewitt. It was the manner that Hewitt handled the incident that caused controversy. He could just asked to removed the line judge saying he was unfairness. Instead, Hewitt dragged Black into his accusation, implied the " similarity" of Black and the linejudge was the reason caused the linejudge againsted him. And Black was mixed (his mother was white). That was the reason it caused controversy at the tournament.

I'm just going to presume you were being intentionally ironic/attempting to be witty etc. by mispelling Blake as "Black"?

I don't even know what to say to the bolded part.

Caesar1844
Aug 24th, 2011, 05:57 AM
^I do see what you're saying, but let's not fall into this trap that because someone has an "ethnic" friend, they can't be racist. They can be. Also, it's remarkable how usually tolerant people can show their true colours once someone from a different ethnic background marries into their family; the thought of mixed race children sends some people running for the hills :tape:
I wasn't really saying that Hewitt isn't racist because he's friends with Rasheed. More that there's no way someone like Rasheed would be such good friends with Hewitt if he was actually racist.

Does that make sense? I'm not sure I'm explaining it well.

Are the Hewitt's popular? Or...? I don't know anything about this.
Lleyton Hewitt is relatively popular. There's a few reasons why:

a) He's kind of a bogan, which makes bogans feel like he's a 'genuine bloke'
b) He's the only decent male tennis player we've had in the last 10 years
c) He's extremely patriotic, and will always put in a good effort for Davis Cup
d) He's a fighter, not a quitter

Personally I still don't like his on-court antics, and I find it difficult to forgive him for some of the worse stuff he did when he was younger. That said, he's not quite as bad as people overseas usually think. They only remember him from when he was at the top of the rankings, which is also when he was young and brash. He's matured quite a bit, which has softened a lot of Australians' attitudes to him. I have to admit, even I like him better than I used to. I will probably be somewhat sad when he retires - whereas up until about 5 years ago, I wished he'd just disappear and stop embarrassing us on the world stage.

Bottom line is that Australians basically ask two things of their sportspeople - you win and you don't get arrogant about it. As long as you do that, you'll always be relatively popular.

That said, he'll never be as universally beloved as someone like Pat Rafter.

Mattographer
Aug 24th, 2011, 06:01 AM
I never liked Lleyton Hewitt. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he never made a racist remark at the US Open. He just said something lines of "Look at the lineperson and and James Blake, what do they have in common?"

Dani12
Aug 24th, 2011, 06:05 AM
I never liked Lleyton Hewitt. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he never made a racist remark at the US Open. He just said something lines of "Look at the lineperson and and James Blake, what do they have in common?"

Yeah but apparentally in the world we live in today, pointing out similarities in two people is completely racist. Duh.

Caesar1844
Aug 24th, 2011, 06:13 AM
He was accusing the linesman of being racist. Arguably that is also a form of racism... I mean, you don't accuse white people of making calls along racial lines, why is the accusation valid just because the linesman is black?

Personally I think it's far more likely it was just Hewitt being a loudmouthed moron and not thinking, rather than any sort of genuinely held prejudice. That's far more in keeping with his character.

tennisvideos
Aug 24th, 2011, 09:43 AM
So much judgement ... with so little facts. :rolleyes:

I have a close contact who works for the ATP tour who has stated to me on more than one occasion that Lleyton is one of the loveliest and friendliest guys on tour (off the court).

I know how heated one can get in the competitive cauldron of tennis (I get worked up and frustrated myself even it club level in Sydney). So I cut some slack to anyone who gets worked up on court - in fact, I love it. It's a bit of entertainment and makes watching the sport more enjoyable.

As for the wedding and family stuff - who knows and it's none of our business anyway. Who are we to judge. It's just another media beat up to help generate sales. :rolleyes:

hdfb
Aug 24th, 2011, 10:12 AM
Lleyton and his parents are downright bogans. I'm not surprised if Jaslyn's being Lebanese would be a compounding factor in this fued. Let's not forget Cronulla riots back in 2005 were Australians vs Lebanese. That was disgusting, but accurately shows the deep-seated racism in a small minority of Australians.

Ferg
Aug 24th, 2011, 11:24 AM
Yeah but apparentally in the world we live in today, pointing out similarities in two people is completely racist. Duh.

Yeah, pointing it out, thats all he fricking did. Its just basically the same as pointing out two people on the street. Oh fuck wait, he actually implied that the black guy was cheating for James Blake because Blake is black too right?! Thats not racist at all thats completely acceptable! Its not like he was aggresive or anything either, he said it in totally calm tones...

HES RACIST. Get over it. He might be a national treasure or whatever (I couldnt understand why in the world personally) but hes a racist prick. Its indispuitable. Defending him gives us a certain impression of you too you know, if you think what is did is ok.

bandabou
Aug 24th, 2011, 11:34 AM
So much judgement ... with so little facts. :rolleyes:

I have a close contact who works for the ATP tour who has stated to me on more than one occasion that Lleyton is one of the loveliest and friendliest guys on tour (off the court).

I know how heated one can get in the competitive cauldron of tennis (I get worked up and frustrated myself even it club level in Sydney). So I cut some slack to anyone who gets worked up on court - in fact, I love it. It's a bit of entertainment and makes watching the sport more enjoyable.

As for the wedding and family stuff - who knows and it's none of our business anyway. Who are we to judge. It's just another media beat up to help generate sales. :rolleyes:

Voice of reason again! The comment that Hewitt made was uncalled for, but to annoint him as racist goes waayyy too far. That's something very very tricky and people should be careful with labeling somebody in such a manner.

For the wedding and stuff, I mean....we don't know the whole story, we don't even know Jaslyn for christ sake..:lol: Now all of sudden, people are so quick around to pass judgement. Crazy world!

Dani12
Aug 24th, 2011, 11:35 AM
Yeah, pointing it out, thats all he fricking did. Its just basically the same as pointing out two people on the street. Oh fuck wait, he actually implied that the black guy was cheating for James Blake because Blake is black too right?! Thats not racist at all thats completely acceptable! Its not like he was aggresive or anything either, he said it in totally calm tones...

HES RACIST. Get over it. He might be a national treasure or whatever (I couldnt understand why in the world personally) but hes a racist prick. Its indispuitable. Defending him gives us a certain impression of you too you know, if you think what is did is ok.

Oh please. You really think I care if you think I'm a racist? I know I'm not...the people I care about know I'm not. Who the hell are you?

It's not acceptable, I never said it was acceptable. I just said it wasn't racist, I said it was an ignorant remark...it was obviously stupid..but it doesn't mean he is a racist, you don't know Lleyton, you don't know that he spits at lebanese people as they pass him in the street.

Of course we can't be rationable people and give him the benifit of the doubt, I mean gosh, it's not as if he is a repeat offender. So ok like because Azarenka said, you are cheating for Jarmila because you are both Australian's in an aggressive tone that she all of a sudden is discriminating against all Australian's? No, it was a stupid, ignorant comment in the heat of the moment...or should we all burn her at the stake aswell. Oh she hates all westerners.

RayB
Aug 24th, 2011, 12:03 PM
Maybe he's a devout muslim and wants his wife to be modest and all.He could also be in favor of polygamy and practise it in the future,it's allowed in Koran,who knows.

Jaelyn's parents propably didn't want their daughter to be just an anonymous member of a harem

Wow you need to come out of your cave, mate.

Jaslyn's husband happens to be Lebanese-Australian but he is not Muslim. He happens to be Christian.

debby
Aug 24th, 2011, 12:07 PM
FAIL thread :happy:

Human Nature
Aug 24th, 2011, 12:11 PM
For the Hewitt's incidence, I believe it was a footfault that was called in the case, similar with Serena's case. The line judge was a black man, so he probably wasn't fair toward Hewitt. It was the manner that Hewitt handled the incident that caused controversy. He could just asked to removed the line judge saying he was unfairness. Instead, Hewitt dragged Black into his accusation, implied the " similarity" of Black and the linejudge was the reason caused the linejudge againsted him. And Black was mixed (his mother was white). That was the reason it caused controversy at the tournament.


Hewitt was finally given a free pass after the incident, but he looks like a racist in many people's eyes. This wedding fiasco again doesn't help his cause.[/QUOTE]


::help:
And for the wedding no surprise from a racist guy like him

RayB
Aug 24th, 2011, 12:17 PM
HES RACIST. Get over it. He might be a national treasure or whatever (I couldnt understand why in the world personally) but hes a racist prick. Its indispuitable. Defending him gives us a certain impression of you too you know, if you think what is did is ok.

Can't help but correct you here, Lleyton is NO national treasure. He is actually not loved by most Australians. We have warmed up to him in the last 4-5 years, since him getting married ans having kids. I remember back in '05 I did not know a single person who liked Lleyton, disgust is all we felt towards him. Pat Rafter on the other hand, we loved and adored.

RayB
Aug 24th, 2011, 12:25 PM
For the Hewitt's incidence, I believe it was a footfault that was called in the case, similar with Serena's case. The line judge was a black man, so he probably wasn't fair toward Hewitt. It was the manner that Hewitt handled the incident that caused controversy.

So by your logic every time a white line judge, makes a call favouring Serena or Venus' opponents, we can safely assume they are probably not being fair towards the the sisters. Thats a lot of racist linespeople out there.

tennisbum79
Aug 24th, 2011, 12:29 PM
Yeah but apparentally in the world we live in today, pointing out similarities in two people is completely racist. Duh.
This is not about generalities, you must think everyone is naive.
Tell me, what is the purpose of pointing out similarities between a player and a line judge to the umpire during a match?

How often does that happen during a tennis match?


We understand Hewit is a national hero in Australia for what he had done for tennis Australia and how he represented the Australians internationally, but it is hard for any one to accept that his comments were
intended to be informative or educational to the umpire.

Dani12
Aug 24th, 2011, 12:36 PM
This is not about generalities, you must think everyone is naive.
Tell me, what is the purpose of pointing out similarities between a player and a line judge to the umpire during a match?

How often does that happen during a tennis match?


We understand Hewit is a national hero in Australia for what he had done for tennis Australia and how he represented the Australians internationally, but it is hard for any one to accept that his comments were
intended to be informative or educational to the umpire.

There is no purpose. I never said there was a purpose, I said it was a stupid thing to do....again, just saying it wasn't racist....good lord.

Again showing your ignorant in assuming Hewitt is a national hero, as it has been explained to you, not a national hero...at all..

Please read.

tennisbum79
Aug 24th, 2011, 12:49 PM
There is no purpose. I never said there was a purpose, I said it was a stupid thing to do....again, just saying it wasn't racist....good lord.

Again showing your ignorant in assuming Hewitt is a national hero, as it has been explained to you, not a national hero...at all..

Please read.
There has to be a purpose to say that in the course of a tennis match. The match had been going on form some time.

It is not like Hewit is sitting in bar with friends and telling a them, "Do you that know person A and person B have similarities?"

Dani12
Aug 24th, 2011, 12:58 PM
There has to be a purpose to say that in the course of a tennis match. The match had been going on form some time.

It is not like Hewit is sitting in bar with friends and telling a them, "Do you that know person A and person B have similarities?"

Yeah? Why not? I hear people all the time, goin, hey your hair is the same colour as so and so....or hey your eyes are exactly like like this guys.

The purpose was ok here, that Hewitt was angry and he thought he was being hard done by. Clearly he wasn't, but he was looking for something to blame his frustrations on, much like Serena was with Shino.

tennisbum79
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:02 PM
Yeah? Why not? I hear people all the time, goin, hey your hair is the same colour as so and so....or hey your eyes are exactly like like this guys.

The purpose was ok here, that Hewitt was angry and he thought he was being hard done by. Clearly he wasn't, but he was looking for something to blame his frustrations on, much like Serena was with Shino.

Now you agree there was a purpose.
And yeah, you think this the same as the banalities of pointing someone hair color. Give me a break.

Leave Serena out of this.

Dani12
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:08 PM
Oh gees, come on...it was a joke. Lighten up a little would ya.

Why do I have to leave Serena out of it? I think that he spoke out cause he was frustated, like Serena...I'm just trying to make it relatable...I'm not trying to offend you or anything.

tennnisfannn
Aug 24th, 2011, 02:29 PM
in other news both Kim and Lleyton ae out of the USO- perhaps they could have made it to the wedding after all!

Juju Nostalgique
Aug 24th, 2011, 03:23 PM
Former WHAT? :spit: :lol:

King Halep
Aug 24th, 2011, 03:28 PM
I take it Jaslyn is no longer a bodybuilder.

:haha:

hablo
Aug 24th, 2011, 03:29 PM
I never liked Lleyton Hewitt. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he never made a racist remark at the US Open. He just said something lines of "Look at the lineperson and and James Blake, what do they have in common?"

What was that comment supposed to mean anyway? If he wasn't implying that racism was guiding the lineperson's calls? :tape::scratch:

Blake was way too gracious during that whole incident! But then again subtle racism is hard to combat as it is. :shrug:

madlove
Aug 24th, 2011, 03:34 PM
Poor girl. I'd be devastated if my parents refuse to attend my weeding.

King Halep
Aug 24th, 2011, 03:45 PM
It will all come out in the wash, Lleyton will expect to be paid some exorbitant amount of money by Woman's Day to respond to this story :tape: This is a gossip magazine not 60 minutes so don't expect too much :shrug:

On a side note - Lleyton isn't beloved by all aussies ;)

:happy: is there a difference?

Raiden
Aug 24th, 2011, 03:49 PM
He was accusing the linesman of being racist. Arguably that is also a form of racism... No it isn't. Otherwise all Serenatards are racist :lol:

I mean, you don't accuse white people of making calls along racial lines, why is the accusation valid just because the linesman is black?What crap are you spouting?

Who said it was valid?[/quote]

Raiden
Aug 24th, 2011, 03:59 PM
Yeah, pointing it out, thats all he fricking did. Its just basically the same as pointing out two people on the street. Oh fuck wait, he actually implied that the black guy was cheating for James Blake because Blake is black too right?Exactly. But that makes Hewitt paranoid, not racist, like I originally pointed out. Another poster also mentioned Azarenka assumed that an Australian official would automatically favor an Aussie player. These acts of assuming that others are ganging up on you cuz you don't belong to their group makes you paranoid and ignorant, not downright racist.

HES[sic] RACIST. Get over it. Bullshit!

Just cuz you holler and yell that a player is racist doesn't make it so. You need to back up your statements with facts. If I say that your dearly beloved Bartoli is a hoe, does it make her a hoe?

hes[sic] a racist prick. Its indispuitable.Like it's indisputable that Bartoli is a crack-whore?

Caesar1844
Aug 24th, 2011, 10:04 PM
What crap are you spouting?

Who said it was valid?
:facepalm:

The point is that he accused a linesman of being racist. Which begs the question, why does he think that racism is a factor? Because of the race of the linesman. That's arguably racist reasoning.

That said, there's a few people on this thread who need to get a clue. Hewitt was just looking around and spoiling for a fight, and happened to settle on something extremely stupid to pick on in the heat of the moment. If he'd been at Wimbledon and playing Tim Henman, he probably would have made a similar statement about the linesman being English. In that case, everyone would have thought he was being a massive tool and that would have been the end of it.

It was extremely poor behaviour, but the idea that it means he's automatically a rabid racist is pretty farfetched. Almost as bad as whoever said "he's a bogan and all bogans are racist towards the Lebanese because of Cronulla". :rolleyes: