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NA-GOAT
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:55 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/blog/busted_racquet/post/The-USTA-is-spineless-if-Serena-isn-8217-t-a-to;_ylt=AgknGfgx4Clx7KYXIpmzAmM4v7YF?urn=ten-wp2616

OK with Serena's "loss" today to Sam, she is going to enter USO ranked around #29 and therefore in the #25-32 SEEDS ... that means she will be drawn to face one of the top 8 SEEDS in R3 ... so potential Serena v Karolina, Maria, Na, Petra etc. as an early match :o

if I were the USTA, I would adjust Serena's SEED and move her to #8 ... then we have Caro, Vera, Kim, Vika, Na, Maria, Petra and Serena as the top 8 ... these 8 have proven that they are the favorites for Grand Slam titles :shrug:

and also I would move Venus to #32 :angel: instead of LOOMING

:shrug:

cowsonice
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:56 AM
It's not like the USTA is going to bend the rules just because of one player just for this US Open...it is what it is.

Alejandrawrrr
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:05 AM
Her seed will be her rank.

Bronx19
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:11 AM
Wimby can do it, can the USO?

Stamp Paid
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:14 AM
I hope not.

BlueTrees
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:16 AM
Wimby can do it, can the USO?

Because Wimbledon is on grass not hard :shrug:

Gdsimmons
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:16 AM
I surely hope not. But I dont think they will. I feel bad for whoever gets her in R3

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:24 AM
I surely hope not. But I dont think they will. I feel bad for whoever gets her in R3

i know who i hope it is. :tape:

Stamp Paid
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:25 AM
I hope its Petra. :lol:

Serenus Christ
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:26 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfk4nuYs9n1qcqfnm.gif

Serena has a protected ranking JUST LIKE MONICA SELES and the US Open bumped Monica Seles to a seeding of two.

They can bump if they want.

simonsaystennis
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:27 AM
They should, but they won't. Only reason she isn't top 8 is because she has only played for 2-3 months. She's won two big hardcourt titles in that time. She is clearly at a top 8 level regardless of ranking. Think

darrinbaker00
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:29 AM
It's not like the USTA is going to bend the rules just because of one player just for this US Open...it is what it is.

They wouldn't be bending any rules if they did give Serena a top-eight seed. The four majors are not obligated to seed according to ranking.

Volcana
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:38 AM
Wimby can do it, can the USO?Yes. The slams are ITF events, not WTA events. They can seed however they like. And if Serena was defending champ, they might well raise her seed. But she isn't and they won't.

Let's be blunt. Raising Serena's seed is about protecting the top eight seeded players FROM Serena. SHE doesn't need to have her seed altered.

Rome
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:42 AM
I don't care if they seed her not who ever is unlucky to get her in round so be it.

tennnisfannn
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:45 AM
No amount of seeding will protect the top 8 anyway, look what happened to Woz today! Loot t wimby the seeds fell so hard and so quickly. Right now seeding isn't helping anyone. Serena could draw Venus or woz for rd 2/3 respectively and who can bet against them losing in thos ealy rounds anyway. It is more respectable to lose early to serena!

young_gunner913
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:46 AM
Nope.

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:48 AM
I hope its Petra. :lol:

dude, follow the script. :(

iWill
Aug 18th, 2011, 07:52 AM
Well if Serena had won her last appearance at the USO then I think she may have gotten moved up BUT her last appearance left her on probation with the USO or USTA right? If you're the best player it doesn't matter what you're seeded.

Mistress of Evil
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:18 AM
nah, she didn't need a seed to kick everybody's ass at AO '07 :hearts: these insignificant things do not mean anything to her :D

MAGIKARPETTA
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:20 AM
I hope not. As I hope she draws the Danish in 3rd round :oh:

marineblue
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:27 AM
No. She is supposed to be the best so she should be given no extra help.

Steven.
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:32 AM
guys, I don't think this is about helping Serena. It's about preventing the top players of this year from falling early just because they're forced to draw the greatest player of this generation.

SoBizarre
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:46 AM
I find it very funny. Fans of players from the top of the ranking are wishing Serena was seeded higher, so there is no danger for their favorites to play her in early stages. On the other hand we have diehard fans of Serena saying "no favors and rule bending needed for our girl, just bring it on :boxing:". Well, it's not like they can do anything about it anyway, but I kind of like the attitude.

So, as long as Radwanska is in the other half of the draw :rolleyes:, I say: No special treatment, just Bring it on!

young_gunner913
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:52 AM
guys, I don't think this is about helping Serena. It's about preventing the top players of this year from falling early just because they're forced to draw the greatest player of this generation.

That's an utterly ridiculous reason.

ivanban
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:52 AM
She doesn't need any special treatment. Plus, that way she has more chances of meeting BFF Sharapova in early rounds :oh:

doomsday
Aug 18th, 2011, 09:04 AM
^ Serena is more beatable in the early rounds than in latter ones so if she have to face Maria I'd rather want to be in Rd 3.

young_gunner913
Aug 18th, 2011, 09:07 AM
^ Serena is more beatable in the early rounds than in latter ones so if she have to face Maria I'd rather want to be in Rd 3.

She's very prone to losing in QF's as well but that didn't stop Serena from stomping on her in one a few weeks ago...

Steven.
Aug 18th, 2011, 09:16 AM
That's an utterly ridiculous reason.

I know it is cause either way, if you want to potentially take the title you're gonna have to beat the best players in the field anyway, whether sooner or later. But that doesn't mean I'd want to see a de facto final match-up in R3 or R4. :facepalm:

jrm
Aug 18th, 2011, 09:17 AM
does it matter ... i don't think she would care less, she can be anyone, seeded or not seeded

Mikey.
Aug 18th, 2011, 09:24 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfk4nuYs9n1qcqfnm.gif

Serena has a protected ranking JUST LIKE MONICA SELES and the US Open bumped Monica Seles to a seeding of two.

They can bump if they want.

I'm pretty sure protected rankings can only be used to enter tournaments, they don't count toward seedings.

Yoncé
Aug 18th, 2011, 10:19 AM
Hell no.

Wimbledon is differen't because they have always seeded differently. No other slam has ever done so, they shouldn't its one of the things that makes Wimbledon, Wimbledon.

She will be seeded according to her rank.

Bijoux0021
Aug 18th, 2011, 10:36 AM
^ Serena is more beatable in the early rounds than in latter ones so if she have to face Maria I'd rather want to be in Rd 3.
I'm pretty sure Sharapova would not want to face Serena in the 3rd round or any other round.

doomsday
Aug 18th, 2011, 10:51 AM
She's very prone to losing in QF's as well but that didn't stop Serena from stomping on her in one a few weeks ago...

Yeah I forgot that stats in MM matter now since Serena win them all. My bad.

I'm pretty sure Sharapova would not want to face Serena in the 3rd round or any other round.

:rolleyes:

VishaalMaria
Aug 18th, 2011, 10:54 AM
Nope. And leave Venus unseeded and looming.

young_gunner913
Aug 18th, 2011, 10:54 AM
Yeah I forgot that stats in MM matter now since Serena win them all. My bad.

Every match matters, slams or non-slams. That's been Serena's attitude for the last 7 years and the results speak for thesmelves.

Pump-it-UP
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:09 AM
They absolutely shouldn't. I want her facing as many top seeds as possible.

Banditoo
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:12 AM
Please Venus to will unseeded. I want R1 Venus-Sharapova!!!

BuTtErFrEnA
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:21 AM
They wouldn't be bending any rules if they did give Serena a top-eight seed. The four majors are not obligated to seed according to ranking.

i always wonder why ppl forget this...just because they don't, doesn't mean they can't

RenaSlam.
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:26 AM
Not worried about what Serena's seeded.

The other top players should be though, especially since most of them are playing like sh*t.

pedropt
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:45 AM
Yes, I'd like to see her seeding adjusted as far as having early matches between favourites go. But then again, I'm pretty sure she doesn't give a shit. We all know she's the most feared and the most likely winner, it's irrelevant. It's just bad for whoever draws her R3, not for Serena :shrug:

Siderophyre
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:59 AM
She doesn't need to be seeded to win, and I'm sure she will gain a lot of satisfaction from ploughing through all the other seeds to win.

In reality, she ought to be the number one seed since she is clearly the best player out there.

Vika & Fish
Aug 18th, 2011, 12:00 PM
no, Serena doesn't deserve it, not on what i've seen

LightWarrior
Aug 18th, 2011, 12:16 PM
nah, she didn't need a seed to kick everybody's ass at AO '07 :hearts: these insignificant things do not mean anything to her :D

Well this time around she made sure to to seeded at least #32 by winning one match in Cincy. So I guess it matters to her.

BlameSerena
Aug 18th, 2011, 12:47 PM
no, Serena doesn't deserve it, not on what i've seen

I'll bite. What do you mean by this? Who has been a better player this summer? The next closest is A. Radwanska.

Vika & Fish
Aug 18th, 2011, 12:51 PM
I'll bite. What do you mean by this? Who has been a better player this summer? The next closest is A. Radwanska.

thats what rankings are there for

yes i agree with you, she is without a doubt consistent " WIN-WIN-WITHDRAWAL"

btw, who is after A. Radwanska?

new-york
Aug 18th, 2011, 12:51 PM
I love that she could meet a top player early. :devil:

NA-GOAT
Aug 18th, 2011, 12:52 PM
I hope not. As I hope she draws the Danish in 3rd round :oh:

yeah or Zvonareva or Schiavone but I just know she will draw Maria or Na :help:

debopero
Aug 18th, 2011, 12:57 PM
Clijsters R3 :armed:

Vika & Fish
Aug 18th, 2011, 01:02 PM
Clijsters wont make it by R1

Irute
Aug 18th, 2011, 01:05 PM
I think both ways have their merits. It is not the first time that for whatever reason capable player has low ranking and their seeding hasn't been adjusted at GM, so not giving Serena adjusted seeding would be business as usual (nothing wrong with that). On the other hand giving her adjusted seeding would take element of luck (or bad luck) out of equation, it would protect Serena and some unlucky player. I would like the lather more, but what happens happens even if my favorite gets Serena early.

dizoo
Aug 18th, 2011, 01:08 PM
no.

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 18th, 2011, 01:23 PM
last time USTA did it was back in 1996 when they bumped Kafelnikov down from no4.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/1996-08-25/sports/18009772_1_seeding-draw-atp-tour

FORZA SARITA
Aug 18th, 2011, 01:34 PM
nope because i want her to trash a top player in early rounds :drool:

Vika & Fish
Aug 18th, 2011, 01:39 PM
nope because i want her to trash a top player in early rounds :drool:

lol she is the top player

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 18th, 2011, 02:39 PM
Every match matters, slams or non-slams. That's been Serena's attitude for the last 7 years and the results speak for thesmelves.

shaaaaaaaaaaaaade. :lol: :happy:

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 18th, 2011, 02:42 PM
She doesn't need any special treatment. Plus, that way she has more chances of meeting BFF Sharapova in early rounds :oh:

:oh:

Sammo
Aug 18th, 2011, 02:45 PM
:facepalm: NO. U :cuckoo:?

harloo
Aug 18th, 2011, 02:47 PM
I think the US Open should give her a special seeding just so we can hear the bitchy comments about it being unfair. Then it also would benefit the top 8 and help Serena pace herself. :)

Vika & Fish
Aug 18th, 2011, 02:49 PM
better Q still: 'How many linespeople will she have executed this year?'

freeandlonely
Aug 18th, 2011, 02:50 PM
doesn't matter, the draw is fixed anyway:oh:

DefyingGravity
Aug 18th, 2011, 02:57 PM
Roland Garros seeded Serena and Venus 2 and 4 respectively back in 2004.

Serena was ranked 7th and Venus was ranked 9

Slams don't have to seed anything how the rankings say.

dsanders06
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:01 PM
They won't, but they should put her top 16 atleast. I've always thought both RG and the US Open should give greater weighting to results in warm-ups in their seedings. It messes the draw up when we've got top contenders meeting in the early rounds - like last year when we had two of the top 3 title favourites (Sharapova and Wozniacki) playing in the fourth round, while another quarter had Zvonareva and Jankovic as their top seeds. :facepalm:

Venus has done nothing to warrant a boost in her seeding as she isn't necessarily even in the top 32 contenders for the title.

doomsday
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:05 PM
shaaaaaaaaaaaaade. :lol: :happy:

:facepalm:

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:06 PM
:facepalm:

bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

please don't pollute this thread with your nonsense, okay?

dsanders06
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:08 PM
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

please don't pollute this thread with your nonsense, okay?

Oliviasmith's selection of insults: insects, racists, mental illness.

doomsday
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:08 PM
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

Says the girl who just can't stop quoting me. It took you one minute to answer :lol:

dsanders06
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:10 PM
Says the girl who just can't stop quoting me. It took you one minute to answer :lol:

For someone who talks about obsessions so much, she sure does like stalking posters she "hates" :lol:

No doubt she's already retreated into Serena Slam to reel off GIF-heavy posts about how the whole forum is racist and on a mission to bring down Willytards.

Justin SW
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:13 PM
I sure do want Venus to be seeded. Please no Serena-Venus in Round 1 or Round 2 :sobbing:

Vika & Fish
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:15 PM
I sure do want Venus to be seeded. Please no Serena-Venus in Round 1 or Round 2 :sobbing:

like another poster posted 'the draws are rigged' so that wont happen unless, the USO organsiers dont like the WS

Jem
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:16 PM
Normally, I would say no; I think rankings and seedings should be a reflection of what you've done over the year. HOWEVER -- and it's a big however -- it might help the women's draw feel more balanced if you eliminated the possibility of Serena facing one of the top women in the third round. Nevertheless, as others have pointed out, I'm not sure it matters, because the top women today are very frail and subject to lose to anyone. Serena is the clear favorite and will probably win this no matter where she's seeded -- unlike the rest of the top women who could lose in the first round before they even face Williams.

Venus is another matter entirely. Her seed should not be adjusted, because there is nothing to warrant it based on recent play. As I see it, she should come in completely relaxed, knowing she has absolutely nothing to lose. It could loosen her up and make her play well.

doomsday
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:16 PM
For someone who talks about obsessions so much, she sure does like stalking posters she "hates" :lol:

No doubt she's already retreated into Serena Slam to reel off GIF-heavy posts about how the whole forum is racist and on a mission to bring down Willytards.

I got banned from Serena's forum because of her and her madness :lol:

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:20 PM
Says the girl who just can't stop quoting me. It took you one minute to answer :lol:

I quoted young_gunner :tape: :unsure:

see like this:

She's very prone to losing in QF's as well but that didn't stop Serena from stomping on her in one a few weeks ago...

:lol:

and then you quoted me. :lol: so I responded. :unsure:

lawd, I feel like a star with all this attention you and your nuthugging friend are giving me this morning. :hearts:

dsanders06
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:25 PM
Oliviasmith's selection of insults: insects, racists, mental illness.


lawd, I feel like a star with all this attention you and your nuthugging friend are giving me this morning. :hearts:

The poor dear had to take 15 minutes to come up with an insult that wasn't one of those I'd listed so as not to lose face :hug:

Notice how, once again, it's the Serena fans who are coming up with the personal insults. Shows how weak their arguments are that they need to add them in to strengthen it. And they wonder why it's always them that get banned :lol: Bless their illogical little heads.

Serenita
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:27 PM
Doesn't matter much imo. Wouldn't bother Serena much if she's not bump up, the top 8 will be very disappointed if she isn't.:oh:

DefyingGravity
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:35 PM
The poor dear had to take 15 minutes to come up with an insult that wasn't one of those I'd listed so as not to lose face :hug:

Notice how, once again, it's the Serena fans who are coming up with the personal insults. Shows how weak their arguments are that they need to add them in to strengthen it. And they wonder why it's always them that get banned :lol: Bless their illogical little heads.

Don't lump ALL the Serena fans together

C. Drone
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:37 PM
many ppl liked last year RG draw because it was a mess. Same with Toronto last week.
I would put both Williams and Serbian sisters unseeded. At least.

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:39 PM
The poor dear had to take 15 minutes to come up with an insult that wasn't one of those I'd listed so as not to lose face :hug:

Notice how, once again, it's the Serena fans who are coming up with the personal insults. Shows how weak their arguments are that they need to add them in to strengthen it. And they wonder why it's always them that get banned :lol: Bless their illogical little heads.


To lose face??? On an internet message board? :happy: Bless yur heart, you and your buddy are really taking this banishment from Serena slam forum really hard huh? :awww: I know addiction (or in your case the obsession) is a difficult thing but I'm sure it'll get better. :hug:


For someone who talks about obsessions so much, she sure does like stalking posters she "hates" :lol:

No doubt she's already retreated into Serena Slam to reel off GIF-heavy posts about how the whole forum is racist and on a mission to bring down Willytards.

well it is my forum :shrug: that's what it's there for.....i bet you wish you could do the same huh? :awww: :happy: :bounce:

dsanders06
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:46 PM
Don't lump ALL the Serena fans together

Well, I'm sure not ALL Serena fans are like that - for instance, if you're a Serena fan, I've never noticed you being as obnoxious as them.

But unfortunately, it has to be said that a LOT of Serena fans (Oliviasmith, TheKang, Butterfrena, Serenita, BartoLiNa, etc.) pretty much always have to resort to personal insults or mocking a poster's disabilities or mocking Kim Clijsters' 3-year-old child, purely because nobody's buying that Serena would double-bagel every great player in history, or that every person in the world worships Serena as a demi-god, or that the Indian Wells crowd were hideously racist, or that she hasn't had to battle more in her life than all the children starving in Somalia, or that fist-pumping when Serena gets a net-cord isn't the most classy act in history, or that she was actually insisting that she be allowed to shove some meatballs down Shino's throat at a fancy restaurant, or whatever spun, illogical nonsense they're putting about that week.

doomsday
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:48 PM
To lose face??? On an internet message board? :happy: Bless yur heart, you and your buddy are really taking this banishment from Serena slam forum really hard huh? :awww: I know addiction (orin your case the obsession) is a difficult thing but I'm sure it'll get better. :hug:

The banishment ain't an issue I never posted in Serena's forum before yesterday and the other day during Vika's match :lol: you should know that considering you go there very often the problem is that mods decided to listen to you while you're the one who is mad here for I don't know what reason.

serenaforever
Aug 18th, 2011, 03:58 PM
Well, I'm sure not ALL Serena fans are like that - for instance, if you're a Serena fan, I've never noticed you being as obnoxious as them.

But unfortunately, it has to be said that a LOT of Serena fans (Oliviasmith, TheKang, Butterfrena, Serenita, BartoLiNa, etc.) pretty much always have to resort to personal insults or mocking a poster's disabilities or mocking Kim Clijsters' 3-year-old child, purely because nobody's buying that Serena would double-bagel every great player in history, or that every person in the world worships Serena as a demi-god, or that the Indian Wells crowd were hideously racist, or that she hasn't had to battle more in her life than all the children starving in Somalia, or that fist-pumping when Serena gets a net-cord isn't the most classy act in history, or that she was actually insisting that she be allowed to shove some meatballs down Shino's throat at a fancy restaurant, or whatever spun, illogical nonsense they're putting about that week.

I think the most ridiculous thing about this is that you--OF ALL PEOPLE--think that you're the voice of reason in this situation. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Serenita
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:07 PM
Well, I'm sure not ALL Serena fans are like that - for instance, if you're a Serena fan, I've never noticed you being as obnoxious as them.

But unfortunately, it has to be said that a LOT of Serena fans (Oliviasmith, TheKang, Butterfrena, Serenita, BartoLiNa, etc.) pretty much always have to resort to personal insults or mocking a poster's disabilities or mocking Kim Clijsters' 3-year-old child, purely because nobody's buying that Serena would double-bagel every great player in history, or that every person in the world worships Serena as a demi-god, or that the Indian Wells crowd were hideously racist, or that she hasn't had to battle more in her life than all the children starving in Somalia, or that fist-pumping when Serena gets a net-cord isn't the most classy act in history, or that she was actually insisting that she be allowed to shove some meatballs down Shino's throat at a fancy restaurant, or whatever spun, illogical nonsense they're putting about that week.

This obsession you have with Serena and her fans. :lol::lol::lol:
This whole Serena fans attention seeking posts is getting old.


Anyway's back to the topic, it would be good for the tournament if Serena's get a bump. Many would be disappointed if Serena would meet Pova in the 3 round, i wouldn't mine et all for obviously reasons.:lol:

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:34 PM
This obsession you have with Serena and her fans. :lol::lol::lol:
This whole Serena fans attention seeking posts is getting old.


Anyway's back to the topic, it would be good for the tournament if Serena's get a bump. Many would be disappointed if Serena would meet Pova in the 3 round, i wouldn't mine et all for obviously reasons.:lol:

not an iota. heck I would pay scalpers prices for that ticket if necessary. haha:

And dsanders - I thought I told you yesterday to stay out of my PM. whatever you have to say to me, say it in the open. Nah seriously, what the heck makes you think that I want that kind of rapport with you? :confused:

Hurley
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:43 PM
Aren't there like 9000 threads in Non-Tennis where you guys are fighting? :help:

ANYWAY:

Roland Garros seeded Serena and Venus 2 and 4 respectively back in 2004.

Serena was ranked 7th and Venus was ranked 9

Slams don't have to seed anything how the rankings say.

At that tournament (and at the following Wimbledon) the Williams sisters were in fact being seeded by their Inujry Protected Ranking (1 and 3 for Serena and Venus respectively). At those Slams, they were seeded directly behind the people with their "real" rankings (i.e. Serena was seeded #1 at Wimbledon because "real" #1 Henin didn't play, "real" #2 Kim also did not play so #3 Myskina was seeded #2, and Venus was seeded 3rd behind Myskina).

This experiment failed (Venus lost to Sprem 2R, while Serena did not win the title) and they stopped using IPR to seed.

Having said that, there is nothing to stop the US Open from seeding anyone anywhere they want. I think Serena should probably be seeded #16 (pulls her away from the Top 8 in the 3R) but we all know that Serena could be anywhere in the draw and it has little to no effect on her chances of winning, or even who she could lose to.

doomsday
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:46 PM
not an iota. heck I would pay scalpers prices for that ticket if necessary. haha:

And dsanders - I thought I told you yesterday to stay out of my PM. whatever you have to say to me, say it in the open. Nah seriously, what the heck makes you think that I want that kind of rapport with you? :confused:

:lol: like you said you're on an internet forum so please stop taking yourself so seriously :lol: I never unsderstood those people who takes PM so seriously :lol:

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:50 PM
:lol: like you said you're on an internet forum so please stop taking yourself so seriously :lol: I never unsderstood those people who takes PM so seriously :lol:

bzzzzzzzzz................everytime I see your post this is what i hear. :lol:

oh gawd...I won't mention any names but it seems that someone is becoming infatuated with me. :hearts: since spiffy's not here, is he your new tag team partner? :scared:

Hurley
Aug 18th, 2011, 04:56 PM
bzzzzzzzzz................everytime I see your post this is what i hear. :lol:

oh gawd...I won't mention any names but it seems that someone is becoming infatuated with me. :hearts: since spiffy's not here, is he your new tag team partner? :scared:

Really? You have to respond to him every time? With the same tired response? In a legitimate thread?

I THOUGHT you were a sensible poster, but there are plenty of other sandboxes throughout the forum, let the adults talk tennis in the tennis section.

Christ.

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 18th, 2011, 05:01 PM
Really? You have to respond to him every time? With the same tired response? In a legitimate thread?

I THOUGHT you were a sensible poster, but there are plenty of other sandboxes throughout the forum, let the adults talk tennis in the tennis section.

Christ.

whatever. and your're addressing me becasue....? :confused:

in since you really needed to know, yes I do. now what?

doomsday
Aug 18th, 2011, 05:04 PM
bzzzzzzzzz................everytime I see your post this is what i hear. :lol:

oh gawd...I won't mention any names but it seems that someone is becoming infatuated with me. :hearts: since spiffy's not here, is he your new tag team partner? :scared:

If that's what you hear then you should know I just want your blood.

matthias
Aug 18th, 2011, 05:10 PM
i think it would be fair if they would move her into top8 seeds
but on the other hand it will be a great 3rd round match-up

mykarma
Aug 18th, 2011, 05:22 PM
yeah or Zvonareva or Schiavone but I just know she will draw Maria or Na :help:
I'd rather Maria in R3. In later rounds it doesn't matter.

Serena_Williams_
Aug 18th, 2011, 05:24 PM
Like it matters

mykarma
Aug 18th, 2011, 05:33 PM
Don't lump ALL the Serena fans together
Don't feed the trolls.

matthias
Aug 18th, 2011, 06:28 PM
Like it matters
maybe not for Serena, but for the other top8 seeds, exept Wozniacki, because for her it would be a success to reach a 3R vs. Serena

Hurley
Aug 18th, 2011, 06:34 PM
maybe not for Serena, but for the other top8 seeds, exept Wozniacki, because for her it would be a success to reach a 3R vs. Serena

Yes, but...if one wants to maintain a Top 8 ranking, a good way to prove/earn it is to put up a good fight (and possibly win) over the greatest player of the last decade. I mean, she's ranked 29 for a reason. If you're the World #5 and you blow against someone still shaking off rust, then maybe you should take that into consideration regarding whether you're going to keep that #5 ranking if you keep playing that way.

My two favorite active players are Top 8 seeds. I don't want either Vera or Petra to come NEAR the girl. But...you want to be a serious #2, or back up a Wimbledon title? Beat her. Don't Woz-dodge the big guns.

dragonflies
Aug 18th, 2011, 06:44 PM
She doesn't need any special treatment. Plus, that way she has more chances of meeting BFF Sharapova in early rounds :oh:



ivone, are you not afraid getting on the Mashabator's blacklist? :tape:

bobito
Aug 18th, 2011, 07:00 PM
It's bad enough that Wimbledon rigs the draw in this manner. Certainly not a practice I would want to see other tournaments copy.

mykarma
Aug 18th, 2011, 07:13 PM
This obsession you have with Serena and her fans. :lol::lol::lol:
This whole Serena fans attention seeking posts is getting old.


Anyway's back to the topic, it would be good for the tournament if Serena's get a bump. Many would be disappointed if Serena would meet Pova in the 3 round, i wouldn't mine et all for obviously reasons.:lol:

I hope they don't change a thing and Serena comes in and kicks all the haters favs butts. If for one second they thought this was going to help Serena, dsanders, vikapower, Debby and the rest would be screaming to the roof tops calling Serena and her fans names, claiming she was moved so they wouldn't be called racist, that Serena was selfish for even considering the move even though she had no input in the decision. etc. etc. etc. Leave Serena where she is and if she loses early so be it.

dsanders06
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:00 PM
I hope they don't change a thing and Serena comes in and kicks all the haters favs butts. If for one second they thought this was going to help Serena, dsanders, vikapower, Debby and the rest would be screaming to the roof tops calling Serena and her fans names, claiming she was moved so they wouldn't be called racist, that Serena was selfish for even considering the move even though she had no input in the decision. etc. etc. etc. Leave Serena where she is and if she loses early so be it.

Yes, the world is against Serena.

Yes, but...if one wants to maintain a Top 8 ranking, a good way to prove/earn it is to put up a good fight (and possibly win) over the greatest player of the last decade. I mean, she's ranked 29 for a reason. If you're the World #5 and you blow against someone still shaking off rust, then maybe you should take that into consideration regarding whether you're going to keep that #5 ranking if you keep playing that way.

My two favorite active players are Top 8 seeds. I don't want either Vera or Petra to come NEAR the girl. But...you want to be a serious #2, or back up a Wimbledon title? Beat her. Don't Woz-dodge the big guns.

I agree in the respect the PLAYERS can't complain about drawing Serena early - like you say, if they want to win the title, they should be prepared to beat anyone any round. But I think the point is that's in the interests of the sport for the top contenders not to play until the later rounds. For instance, a match between Serena and Kvitova could be a great advert for the sport, but if it happens in the 3rd round when very few people watch instead of the semifinals, that potential for being an advert is pretty much wasted.

Irute
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:11 PM
Yes, but...if one wants to maintain a Top 8 ranking, a good way to prove/earn it is to put up a good fight (and possibly win) over the greatest player of the last decade. I mean, she's ranked 29 for a reason. If you're the World #5 and you blow against someone still shaking off rust, then maybe you should take that into consideration regarding whether you're going to keep that #5 ranking if you keep playing that way.

My two favorite active players are Top 8 seeds. I don't want either Vera or Petra to come NEAR the girl. But...you want to be a serious #2, or back up a Wimbledon title? Beat her. Don't Woz-dodge the big guns.

I am not sure if the rust sticks to Rena that much... If she is capable to play at the top level again I think she will be just fine by USO.

HippityHop
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:13 PM
I prefer her unseeded and looming. :devil:

Lucemferre
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:14 PM
Has it ever happened before at the us open? As far as I know, no. Another thread that needs to be closed.

mykarma
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:14 PM
Yes, the world is against Serena.
Not in the slightest.

mykarma
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:19 PM
I am not sure if the rust sticks to Rena that much... If she is capable to play at the top level again I think she will be just fine by USO.
I'm not so concerned about the rust but am very concerned about her health and how she's going to react to a strain of a major because of the pulmonary embolism. That's some serious stuff and nothing to play with.

2Black
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:21 PM
Well since I have tickets to the 3rd & 4th rounds, I'm all for her staying at 29th seed. :cool:

BuTtErFrEnA
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:24 PM
Has it ever happened before at the us open? As far as I know, no. Another thread that needs to be closed.

yes...kafelnikov as TBE said...1994

Alejandrawrrr
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:28 PM
Yes, the world is against Serena.

Stop reciting this tired old line every time someone calls YOU out for your clear bias.

Serenita
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:31 PM
Yes, the world is against Serena.

.

http://www.tnfj.com/Images/Smilies/violinnormal.gif

I prefer her unseeded and looming. :devil:

:oh:
It would be epic.

Lucemferre
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:32 PM
yes...kafelnikov as TBE said...1994

Ah I see. So they bumped a few americans and others got mad.Typical american arrogance.They can't do that today and definitely not to Serena even if they could :haha:

ivanban
Aug 18th, 2011, 08:56 PM
ivone, are you not afraid getting on the Mashabator's blacklist? :tape:

Mashabator and I are BFF, too :angel:

RVD
Aug 18th, 2011, 10:42 PM
No.
Why should they?

Personally, I want Serena to meet the top ranked players early and ASAP so that she can accumulate copious ranking points, and send an early message. :cool:
Plus, I wanna see the shell-chocked faces of these top ranked players after their 6-0, 6-0 drubbing, and the wailing and tears from their fans. :devil: :tape:

RVD
Aug 18th, 2011, 10:53 PM
Well, I'm sure not ALL Serena fans are like that - for instance, if you're a Serena fan, I've never noticed you being as obnoxious as them.

But unfortunately, it has to be said that a LOT of Serena fans (Oliviasmith, TheKang, Butterfrena, Serenita, BartoLiNa, etc.) pretty much always have to resort to personal insults or mocking a poster's disabilities or mocking Kim Clijsters' 3-year-old child, purely because nobody's buying that Serena would double-bagel every great player in history, or that every person in the world worships Serena as a demi-god, or that the Indian Wells crowd were hideously racist, or that she hasn't had to battle more in her life than all the children starving in Somalia, or that fist-pumping when Serena gets a net-cord isn't the most classy act in history, or that she was actually insisting that she be allowed to shove some meatballs down Shino's throat at a fancy restaurant, or whatever spun, illogical nonsense they're putting about that week.*SIGH*
Lawd have mercy.
Can you just please get over yourself?! :facepalm:
Not everything in life has to be about you.
The very posters you named above are stellar posters who've made wonderful & insightful contributions to the board, are humorous, and are a joy to read.





Maybe it's you...again...whose the problem here?




Now, can we PLEASE just stay on topic?!

VishaalMaria
Aug 18th, 2011, 10:58 PM
Well, for the people that are saying no, I bet you wish they had if she draws your fav as early as round 3.

Simon Cowell
Aug 19th, 2011, 04:11 PM
No.

I find Serena patronizing. It's as simple as that. Serena is more damaging than I am to these competitors because a lot of people just shouldn't be playing for a living. :rolleyes:

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 19th, 2011, 04:15 PM
Can u imagine JJ what she will be saying.
She'd get bumped from 12-13.

NA-GOAT
Aug 19th, 2011, 04:19 PM
Can u imagine JJ what she will be saying.
She'd get bumped from 12-13.

not if she lose to Peng tonight :devil:

2Black
Aug 19th, 2011, 04:24 PM
With Kim's pullout, she definitely should be bumped ... Keep all the Top players in as long as you can USTA

Hurley
Aug 19th, 2011, 04:25 PM
Well, for the people that are saying no, I bet you wish they had if she draws your fav as early as round 3.

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:

Yes, but...if one wants to maintain a Top 8 ranking, a good way to prove/earn it is to put up a good fight (and possibly win) over the greatest player of the last decade. I mean, she's ranked 29 for a reason. If you're the World #5 and you blow against someone still shaking off rust, then maybe you should take that into consideration regarding whether you're going to keep that #5 ranking if you keep playing that way.

My two favorite active players are Top 8 seeds. I don't want either Vera or Petra to come NEAR the girl. But...you want to be a serious #2, or back up a Wimbledon title? Beat her. Don't Woz-dodge the big guns.

You should try reading. It works!

Serenita
Aug 19th, 2011, 04:26 PM
:dance:

Hurley
Aug 19th, 2011, 04:26 PM
Maybe it's you...again...whose the problem here?

Maybe this isn't a "one or the other" situation. Most things in life are not. Please mull that over.

tennisbum79
Aug 19th, 2011, 04:36 PM
With Kim out, and the latest performance given by Kvitova, Li Na, Caro, Azarenka, Vera, Stosur, it would be weird for Serena to be seeded in the 30's.

Simon Cowell
Aug 19th, 2011, 04:38 PM
I never want to hear that her name again. I cannot stand it. I'm allergic to it. :rolleyes:

RVD
Aug 19th, 2011, 11:39 PM
Maybe this isn't a "one or the other" situation. Most things in life are not. Please mull that over.Moot point, in this instance.
Thanks for playing though.

Tennis Observer
Aug 19th, 2011, 11:53 PM
[...]if I were the USTA, I would adjust Serena's SEED and move her to #8 ... then we have Caro, Vera, Kim, Vika, Na, Maria, Petra and Serena as the top 8 ... these 8 have proven that they are the favorites for Grand Slam titles :shrug:

and also I would move Venus to #32 :angel: instead of LOOMING :shrug:

From US Open HP (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/players/seeds.html?promo=subnav):

Men’s and women’s seeds will be based on the August 22 rankings.

Stamp Paid
Aug 20th, 2011, 12:01 AM
Aren't there like 9000 threads in Non-Tennis where you guys are fighting? :help:

Really? You have to respond to him every time? With the same tired response? In a legitimate thread?

I THOUGHT you were a sensible poster, but there are plenty of other sandboxes throughout the forum, let the adults talk tennis in the tennis section.

Christ.

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:



You should try reading. It works!

Maybe this isn't a "one or the other" situation. Most things in life are not. Please mull that over.Ive never seen someone fish for an argument this many times in the same thread...:lol:

Bayo
Aug 20th, 2011, 01:08 AM
Nah. I want to see her take a sledgehammer to the field.

iPatty
Aug 20th, 2011, 01:10 AM
Serena is definitely getting injured at the wedding. Top 8 seeds remain intact.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MS1Ieii6Vfo/TkxbswdePTI/AAAAAAAAAdg/WU58MQz3E4w/s288/wedding-wrong.gif

serenaforever
Aug 20th, 2011, 01:31 AM
I prefer her unseeded and looming. :devil:

If she was, it would be one of the highlights of MY LIFE. :drool:

Hurley
Aug 20th, 2011, 02:22 AM
Ive never seen someone fish for an argument this many times in the same thread...:lol:

Or, I want to talk about tennis, and you people are idiots. :shrug:

Why would I argue with most of you? I make fun of you till it gets old, and then I move on.

Hurley
Aug 20th, 2011, 02:24 AM
Moot point, in this instance.
Thanks for playing though.

Well, the first person you mentioned in your list acts the absolute fool when conversing with the person you identify as the main offender, so, no, it's not a moot point.

Stamp Paid
Aug 20th, 2011, 02:37 AM
Or, I want to talk about tennis, and you people are idiots. :shrug:

Why would I argue with most of you? I make fun of you till it gets old, and then I move on.Save the pretentiousness.

You quoted three people who werent even talking to you. You instigated and repeatedly itched to be a part of the same 'foolishness' that you claim to be above. :lol: You were just as thirsty for a fight as anyone else, idiot.

Hurley
Aug 20th, 2011, 02:42 AM
No, I don't need them to respond to me at all. Not much of a fight, then :shrug:

UncleZeke
Aug 20th, 2011, 05:26 AM
should they ? yes.
will they ? no.

Lord Choc Ice
Aug 20th, 2011, 05:29 AM
No, because I want her to draw Woz in the first week. :)

Andy.
Aug 20th, 2011, 05:30 AM
I would prefer it if she was. That was these is no chance of her playing Masha before the QTR finals.

RVD
Aug 20th, 2011, 09:44 PM
Well, the first person you mentioned in your list acts the absolute fool when conversing with the person you identify as the main offender, so, no, it's not a moot point.What "list" are you referring to? :confused:

You do realize that you're being quite the hypocrite in this thread, right?

BuTtErFrEnA
Aug 20th, 2011, 09:57 PM
Save the pretentiousness.

You quoted three people who werent even talking to you. You instigated and repeatedly itched to be a part of the same 'foolishness' that you claim to be above. :lol: You were just as thirsty for a fight as anyone else, idiot.

i thought it was just me that noticed this :lol:

Stamp Paid
Aug 20th, 2011, 10:32 PM
i thought it was just me that noticed this :lol::lol: Some people love to throw stones and then hide their hands...

dsanders06
Aug 20th, 2011, 11:36 PM
Huh. Serena fans coming up with personal insults again instead of debating the issue. There's a turn up for the books.

young_gunner913
Aug 20th, 2011, 11:37 PM
Huh. Serena fans coming up with personal insults again instead of debating the issue. There's a turn up for the books.

You obsessed with Serena fans and making snide remarks and thinking you're going to get away with them. Seems like things are going the way they normally do right?

Brena
Aug 20th, 2011, 11:44 PM
As if it matters in what exact order she's gonna beat them all. :shrug:

Serenaluv
Aug 21st, 2011, 01:24 PM
They should. I mean give her number 1 seed already. We know she's not gonna embarrass the uso by losing in R1 like woz will do :P

Ciarán
Aug 21st, 2011, 01:27 PM
Her seed will be her rank.

Her seed should be how likely she is to win. Which is very high.

Joey Darling
Aug 21st, 2011, 01:32 PM
Personally, I don't see why people care if she gets a Top Eight seed. She doesn't. If I am not mistaken, after the Toronto final, all she was concerned with was getting her ranking high enough that she can be a seed. Not necessarily Top Eight, just a seed. She's far more humble than she used to be... She knows her own limits. If she's not upset, then there's no sense in having to get a shovel to dig your panties out of your ass because you got them all in a wad.

NA-GOAT
Aug 22nd, 2011, 07:44 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/blog/busted_racquet/post/The-USTA-is-spineless-if-Serena-isn-8217-t-a-to;_ylt=AgknGfgx4Clx7KYXIpmzAmM4v7YF?urn=ten-wp2616

article on this topic

Diesel
Aug 22nd, 2011, 08:01 PM
As if it matters in what exact order she's gonna beat them all. :shrug:

This is how I like to look at it.

smarties
Aug 22nd, 2011, 09:46 PM
another useless article by Chris Chase :rolleyes:

2Black
Aug 22nd, 2011, 10:03 PM
Great Article ... Tennis has NO BALLS! That's why the Tennis & the USTA is far off the sports landscape in the states.

They don't know how to generate stories for their league.

RenaSlam.
Aug 22nd, 2011, 11:28 PM
Step.

NA-GOAT
Aug 22nd, 2011, 11:35 PM
is Chris Chase a poster here ... so many of his articles are about ideas from here :tape:

ZODIAC
Aug 22nd, 2011, 11:36 PM
Serena should stay where she is and cause havoc,I would love her to play pova third round.I think they will give her Vera Stosur and Na li...they will not stop her from winning the Open.
USA OPEN 2011 is for Rena...she will win it in style...
revisit this thread after the Open..

ZODIAC
Aug 22nd, 2011, 11:38 PM
is Chris Chase a poster here ... so many of his articles are about ideas from here :tape:he always writes essays:help:

danieln1
Aug 22nd, 2011, 11:47 PM
If they give Serena the number 3 seed that would be occupied by useless Fiona that would be a smart move....

But then they bumped her in Wimbledon and that didn´t do any good for her :tape:

Anyway, I think the person that doesn´t give a shit for all this ranking/seed discussion is Serena herself, because she knows she´s the best one and that she will beat 7 players, regardless of ranking, to win the US Open.

Bonfire
Aug 23rd, 2011, 12:11 AM
If they give Serena the number 3 seed that would be occupied by useless Fiona that would be a smart move....

But then they bumped her in Wimbledon and that didn´t do any good for her :tape:

Anyway, I think the person that doesn´t give a shit for all this ranking/seed discussion is Serena herself, because she knows she´s the best one and that she will beat 7 players, regardless of ranking, to win the US Open.

although I hate the fact that you felt the need to call Kim "useless Fiona:rolleyes:" your post is right on the mark. Serena will do what she needs to do regardless of ranking probably. But if they were to give her Kim's seed so to speak...that would be a completely valid choice considering it's Serena and she of course would deserve it.