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Banditoo
Jul 22nd, 2011, 08:01 AM
Hello people! :wavey:
Welcome to first Görges fans chat thread. :)

Solitaire
Jul 22nd, 2011, 08:04 AM
I'll bring some punch and pie. :D

Banditoo
Jul 22nd, 2011, 08:14 AM
I'll bring some punch and pie. :D

:D
Good idea! ;)

Skoo
Jul 22nd, 2011, 10:42 AM
Does she look smart with those glasses or what? :)

Banditoo
Jul 22nd, 2011, 02:45 PM
Does anybody watching Tour de France?
I`m for Contrador. :)

fleckes
Jul 22nd, 2011, 05:25 PM
Does she look smart with those glasses or what? :)

Somehow like a young and sexy teacher...

18majors
Jul 22nd, 2011, 06:29 PM
Have a safe trip to Stanford, Julia.

Skoo
Jul 22nd, 2011, 06:44 PM
Somehow like a young and sexy teacher...

Yeah, 'my first sex teacher' were the first words that came to my mind :)

Ayumilove
Jul 22nd, 2011, 10:36 PM
Hey guys.

Vikapower
Jul 22nd, 2011, 11:00 PM
^^ Hi I think the ceremony is in 2 hours I think.

Ayumilove
Jul 22nd, 2011, 11:22 PM
Standford draw?

Vikapower
Jul 23rd, 2011, 12:00 AM
^^ Yes, to me it's in 2 hours or less right now.

Vikapower
Jul 23rd, 2011, 12:05 AM
You can follow it on Twitter I think : http://twitter.com/#!/BankoftheWestCl

Ayumilove
Jul 23rd, 2011, 01:06 AM
thanks. do you know how to change your username or is that not allowed?

Vikapower
Jul 23rd, 2011, 01:44 AM
thanks. do you know how to change your username or is that not allowed?

To change your username use this thread : http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?p=19918477#post19918477 ;)

Ayumilove
Jul 23rd, 2011, 01:57 AM
ok thanks Vikapower!

Banditoo
Jul 23rd, 2011, 06:09 PM
What do you think for killed people in the Norway and Amy Winehouse? Very sad week.

People tell your twitter, please. :)

Specter
Jul 23rd, 2011, 06:45 PM
Amy Winehouse?

27 Club.

Eerie, isn't it? (Though not hard to predict in her case.)

Skoo
Jul 23rd, 2011, 06:48 PM
Norway was unexpected. That dude probably missed the target by a country. He was after Wozniacki :) It was peculiar that Amy was still alive. Too bad she had to sing when she was living. Twitter: skoo_s

Banditoo
Jul 23rd, 2011, 07:05 PM
Norway was unexpected. That dude probably missed the target by a country. He was after Wozniacki :) It was peculiar that Amy was still alive. Too bad she had to sing when she was living. Twitter: skoo_s

That guy is horiblle and crazy. How people can do this? :tape:
Hope for that. Amy is big talant.
Link please! I can`t find you. :)

Skoo
Jul 23rd, 2011, 07:43 PM
That guy is horiblle and crazy. How people can do this? :tape:
Hope for that. Amy is big talant.
Link please! I can`t find you. :)

Well, when one finds a certain group threatening to her own group or even the whole humankind, she might do this kind of things.

I think you misunderstood me. I don't think she in fact is still alive (nevertheless I hope so). But I don't like her music. Not a big talent in my eyes. Maybe just a nice voice :)

http://twitter.com/#!/skoo_s

snoodtastic
Jul 24th, 2011, 06:14 AM
I'm @snoodtastic on Twitter. I followed you, skoo! I don't post here often, mostly lurk for news every now and then. But I'm pretty active on Twitter.

Banditoo
Jul 24th, 2011, 07:47 AM
Good Morning to everyone! This is summary for me. Let`s everybody make it one. :p
I`m `Banditoo`. My real name is Bayryam. I`m from Bulgaria. I live in Haskovo - medium city in Bulgaria. I`m 14 year old.
I love to study and write on forum. I like to listen music. My favorite singer is Madonna. I like too Pink and Kelis. The groups whos i listen is Fever ray and Iamamiwhoami. I don`t like Lady Gaga, Eminem, MChakson.
I like German sport player!!! :hearts: :worship:
- German national futboll team
- German women tennis player: Julia Goerges, Lisicki, Petkovic :hearts:
- German mens tenis player: F. Mayer and M. Bachinger :bounce:
- German diving team!!!
- German athlete in winter sports: Severin FREUND and Maria Riesch :worship:
This is very crazy :tape::lol:
By sports I love to watch - Tennis, F1, Cycling, Winter sports, Swimming and Futboll. (I`m crazy an sport maniac :help::lol:)
I watch tennis by 2009. My favorite tournaent is Wimbledon (love a grass). I like women tennis more than men. I`m fan on Venus, Serena, Julia, Pironkova, GOAT Roger, Dimitrov and all other bulgarian tennis player. I like F. Mayer, M. Bachinger, Berankis, Peneta, Bartoli and Pous-Tio. I don`t like Mahsa, Azarenka, Raonic, Nasta, Tomic, Caro and Kim. ;):lol:
I can speak Bulgarian, Turkish and English. When I grow up I want to study in Germany or England Astronomy. I love Astronomy. I go to the competition for Astronomy and i have a success.:p
This is for me. Now you are underway. :)

fleckes
Jul 24th, 2011, 09:13 AM
I like German sport player!!! :hearts: :worship:
Can you say why? Do you have somekind of a connection to germany?

- German national futboll team
Well they play nice football nowadays, don't they. I'm a fan of the german mannschaft myself, but that's hardly surprising since I'm german and football is the number 1 sport here by far. During the time of the european cup or the world cup the whole of germany goes nuts!!

- German women tennis player: Julia Goerges, Lisicki, Petkovic :hearts:
Well thats why we a here. They are just great. Love them
- German mens tenis player: F. Mayer and M. Bachinger :bounce:Why??
- German diving team!!!
I watch them sometimes during olympics, but other than that I'm not really into that sport. The german team is somewhat successful these days, or do I confuse it with another sport?
- German athlete in winter sports: Severin FREUND and Maria Riesch :worship:
Ski jumping had its days in germany, but maybe they will come back. So Severin Freund could become a star in germany, while Maria to some extent is. I#m not so fond of the both of them, but that's just because I dont watch their sports a lot. The biggest winter sport star in germany by far is Magdalena Neuner. And i love her too, just as I love the sport of hers biathlon. As for the winter sports, Biathlon draws the biigest crowds here in germany by far

By sports I love to watch - Tennis, F1, Cycling, Winter sports, Swimming and Futboll. (I`m crazy an sport maniac :help::lol:)
What's with Sebastina Vettel? I like him a lot, he seems like a fun guy

I can speak Bulgarian, Turkish and English. When I grow up I want to study in Germany or England Astronomy. I love Astronomy. I go to the competition for Astronomy and i have a success.:p
If you want to study in germany you should try to lear a bit of german. Most of the time the lectures are in german. There are some international ones that are in english, but that's clearly a minority. But you are still young, enough time to learn another language

Skoo
Jul 24th, 2011, 09:43 AM
When I grow up I want to study in Germany or England Astronomy. I love Astronomy. I go to the competition for Astronomy and i have a success.:p

That's good. In the future, you'll be able to explain to us how does a WTA star transform into a black hole :)

Banditoo
Jul 24th, 2011, 10:09 AM
Can you say why? Do you have somekind of a connection to germany?

Just i like Germany. Everyone have a other contry from his national country where he want to live and like something who he want to see in his country. Germany is very developed and i like his sportist. I don`t like everything in Germany but I amazed by the development at large in Germany. Of course i don`t worship this country just like his. Like a german sportist nature. And in Bulgaria we haven`t maby sportist and i should be to choose by who`s country sportist to am. I choose Germany :)

Well they play nice football nowadays, don't they. I'm a fan of the german mannschaft myself, but that's hardly surprising since I'm german and football is the number 1 sport here by far. During the time of the european cup or the world cup the whole of germany goes nuts!!

In Bulgaria too. Futboll is sport number one. This is disgusting because in the sports news time is separates during more than other sport together. :rolleyes:
I watch then them during Worl cup 2010. They were amazing especially Özil. This team is very young and have a great future. I hope they will win World Cuo in 2014. :bounce:

Well thats why we a here. They are just great. Love them

Exactly.

Why??

Bacause i love tennis player who go to net. I like moderate agressive game. Mayer and Bachinger have that game. Plus Bachinger is young and i will can to track all his career like a Dimitrov! :bounce:

I watch them sometimes during olympics, but other than that I'm not really into that sport. The german team is somewhat successful these days, or do I confuse it with another sport?

Last year in European games they win most golden medal. This year in the World cup they don`t have a good presented, but Olympic games are coming. we hope for better presented.

What's with Sebastina Vettel? I like him a lot, he seems like a fun guy

I`m for Fenando Alonso. I don`t like a Vettel but he is very big champion.

Ski jumping had its days in germany, but maybe they will come back. So Severin Freund could become a star in germany, while Maria to some extent is. I#m not so fond of the both of them, but that's just because I dont watch their sports a lot. The biggest winter sport star in germany by far is Magdalena Neuner. And i love her too, just as I love the sport of hers biathlon. As for the winter sports, Biathlon draws the biigest crowds here in germany by far

Yeah I forgot her. Germany in biathlon is one by legends. Hope for 3 gold medal for Neuner in Olympic games. This will be a crazy and very deservedly!!!

If you want to study in germany you should try to lear a bit of german. Most of the time the lectures are in german. There are some international ones that are in english, but that's clearly a minority. But you are still young, enough time to learn another language

Ok! Thank you for information. :)

Banditoo
Jul 25th, 2011, 08:20 AM
Now I downloading Beyonce new album. Whether is good? I never like Beyonce but she is good singer. Like her some songs. :)

Banditoo
Jul 25th, 2011, 09:00 AM
Not like this album. Many ballads in her. I don`t like Beyonce ballads. For me her voice is for pop-dancing songs. I like this ballads - When I Fall in Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfAb0gNPy6s).... Songs like a that make me incredible. Enchantment and beauty!!! :hearts::hearts::hearts:
My favourites Beyonce song is Why Don't You Love Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QczgvUDskk0&ob=av2e) - In this song haven`t thing by hip-hop. I don`t like Beyonce because she in her song have many parts from Hip-Hop and RnB.
Good song is Who Run The World whit good rhythm and melody bur his song is very feministic... I`m not a girl and i don`t like a text. :lol: But promotion for this album was a very good. Live performances were excellent. Especially this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNg9mTiFDq8 :)
Good work by Beyonce but i don`t like this album.
I wait for Madonna album this year. ;)

Saralah.
Jul 25th, 2011, 02:26 PM
Good Morning to everyone! This is summary for me. Let`s everybody make it one. :p
I`m `Banditoo`. My real name is Bayryam. I`m from Bulgaria. I live in Haskovo - medium city in Bulgaria. I`m 14 year old.
I love to study and write on forum. I like to listen music. My favorite singer is Madonna. I like too Pink and Kelis. The groups whos i listen is Fever ray and Iamamiwhoami. I don`t like Lady Gaga, Eminem, MChakson.
I like German sport player!!! :hearts: :worship:
- German national futboll team
- German women tennis player: Julia Goerges, Lisicki, Petkovic :hearts:
- German mens tenis player: F. Mayer and M. Bachinger :bounce:
- German diving team!!!
- German athlete in winter sports: Severin FREUND and Maria Riesch :worship:
This is very crazy :tape::lol:
By sports I love to watch - Tennis, F1, Cycling, Winter sports, Swimming and Futboll. (I`m crazy an sport maniac :help::lol:)
I watch tennis by 2009. My favorite tournaent is Wimbledon (love a grass). I like women tennis more than men. I`m fan on Venus, Serena, Julia, Pironkova, GOAT Roger, Dimitrov and all other bulgarian tennis player. I like F. Mayer, M. Bachinger, Berankis, Peneta, Bartoli and Pous-Tio. I don`t like Mahsa, Azarenka, Raonic, Nasta, Tomic, Caro and Kim. ;):lol:
I can speak Bulgarian, Turkish and English. When I grow up I want to study in Germany or England Astronomy. I love Astronomy. I go to the competition for Astronomy and i have a success.:p
This is for me. Now you are underway. :)
You like Fever Ray, therefore you're awesome :D. I prefer The Knife though, but Karin has a fantastic voice either way. I also agree that Beyoncé has a good voice but that her songs aren't that great.

I love German athletes too, and everything coming from Germany has more chance to interest me than any other country, so I understand you. No real reason either, my father loves the country and the people and he passed his passion to me I guess. His grand mother was German but I'm not sure it has anything to do with it :lol:. Germans just are a great people who have a fascinating culture and they are amongst the people I love the most to discuss with. I work in a place where loads of people from many countries come and the Germans are always the ones making an effort to speak French and they're just very polite and nice - always smiling and never mad at you for things that are out of control (I work at a lost and found and some people blame me because THEY lost something :rolleyes:). All Germans probably aren't like that, but still... I love them :lol:!

Banditoo
Jul 25th, 2011, 03:48 PM
You like Fever Ray, therefore you're awesome :D. I prefer The Knife though, but Karin has a fantastic voice either way. I also agree that Beyoncé has a good voice but that her songs aren't that great.

:lol: Thank you. Yeah Karin have a fantastic voice. I listen fist on MTV. I am her fan since I heard her voice in `What Else Is There ?`. After this I watched her video in Youtube. I was fascinated by her song, e specially by `When I Grow Up`. I like too her new song - `The Wolf`- but i want new album this year!!! I love her song and Fever Ray!
What do you think for Iamamiwhoami? This is another crazy group. :lol:

I love German athletes too, and everything coming from Germany has more chance to interest me than any other country, so I understand you. No real reason either, my father loves the country and the people and he passed his passion to me I guess. His grand mother was German but I'm not sure it has anything to do with it :lol:.

My father was working there and now my uncle working there. But my father like more Russians athletes.:lol: But he like more Germany like a country, of course.

Germans just are a great people who have a fascinating culture and they are amongst the people I love the most to discuss with.

I love to discuss with from other country. This is interesting and instructive. For this I love the forums. German is good people, my rafter tell me this. Incredible country.... It was very interesting when I read German history.

I work in a place where loads of people from many countries come and the Germans are always the ones making an effort to speak French and they're just very polite and nice - always smiling and never mad at you for things that are out of control (I work at a lost and found and some people blame me because THEY lost something :rolleyes:). All Germans probably aren't like that, but still... I love them :lol:!

Haha! Good story! Canada is interesting country. I thought that in Canada you speak English. :lol:
Nice too meet you Saralah! :wavey:

Saralah.
Jul 27th, 2011, 12:40 AM
Yesss What Else Is There is one of my all time favourite songs. I'm not sure about Iamamiwhoami... what I heard on youtube was very random. I like random stuff but that was too much! Do you have songs to recommend me, perhaps?

And in Canada we're *supposed* to speak both French and English, but bilinguism doesn't work. Maybe I'm bitter because I'm part of the minority but it only goes one way. If someone from Toronto visits Montréal, I'll have to speak to him in English. If I visit Toronto, I'll have to speak English there too. French is an official language just as much as English, but we get spit on day after day. Yet, during international events, our Governement brags about how Canada has two official languages while some Ministers can't even speak French when they don't have a paper to read in front of them :lol:. It's really insulting to tell you the truth.

I tend to say too much when I'm talking about that topic sorry :angel:.

Vikapower
Jul 27th, 2011, 01:16 AM
^^ You must live in Québec to talk french no !? Anyways I can understand your frustration to not having the ability to talk the most beautiful language in the world. :lol: Maybe some day that will come. Hope. :lol:

Just kidding. ;) BTW I've been watching some pranks on Youtube for a time now and been killing myself out in laughters to the victims of these :lol: so funny... don't you all watch that !?

Root
Jul 27th, 2011, 01:33 AM
iamamiwhoami :hearts: That's my jam. The name put me off at first, not sure why. And I always thought it was a guy due to that weird stage name. :lol:

Specter
Jul 27th, 2011, 10:22 AM
Yesss What Else Is There is one of my all time favourite songs. I'm not sure about Iamamiwhoami... what I heard on youtube was very random. I like random stuff but that was too much! Do you have songs to recommend me, perhaps?

And in Canada we're *supposed* to speak both French and English, but bilinguism doesn't work. Maybe I'm bitter because I'm part of the minority but it only goes one way. If someone from Toronto visits Montréal, I'll have to speak to him in English. If I visit Toronto, I'll have to speak English there too. French is an official language just as much as English, but we get spit on day after day. Yet, during international events, our Governement brags about how Canada has two official languages while some Ministers can't even speak French when they don't have a paper to read in front of them :lol:. It's really insulting to tell you the truth.

I tend to say too much when I'm talking about that topic sorry :angel:.

Something I always wondered: Why do Québécois usually speak English with an accent? I mean, don't you hear English all day on TV, or are you really completely capsuled off in your own media world? (Not meant negatively, just curious.)

And another thing: Isn't it weird that the Habs cheer is Go Habs Go? Seems counterintuitive to me somehow. :scratch:

Banditoo
Jul 27th, 2011, 07:00 PM
Yesss What Else Is There is one of my all time favourite songs. I'm not sure about Iamamiwhoami... what I heard on youtube was very random. I like random stuff but that was too much! Do you have songs to recommend me, perhaps?
Iamiwhoami is new group. They have a few song.... Everything started with promo videos in 2009. You can find them here: Promo videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/14/oPFM3DUVT-8). Them first song is B (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/8/M2WDbAFvt6A) O (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/7/MMroXbAmrI8) (second) U-1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/6/izejVXJ_arQ) (third) U-2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/5/WB85HAUXbbM) (fourth) N (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/4/N0BsI8R4izQ) (fifth) T (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/3/bW89Pv8QrX4)(sixth) Y (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/2/LEoGQU_k78k) (seventh, my favourite them song and last by this stage). After finished this stage of them music they have a concert in forest with one by them fans! :hearts:
This was amazing and incredible. This never ever happened in music world. Epic... All concert you can watch by this youtube member (http://www.youtube.com/user/shasaki). When you have a time you can watch. I give you everything by them and will be very hard to watch everything. :lol:
The fist song by new stage is ; john (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLPxTKR7A70&playnext=1&list=PL1BA332678AF870D1).
I love Iamamiwhoami videos. Maybe best videos in music story ever. They all narrate one story. Videos on first view look expensives but when you looked more in details they looked very cheap. But they all are work of the art. And I`m absolutely serious. :lol:
I like every song of Iamamiwhoami like a Fever ray because they have a few songs. :lol:

And in Canada we're *supposed* to speak both French and English, but bilinguism doesn't work. Maybe I'm bitter because I'm part of the minority but it only goes one way. If someone from Toronto visits Montréal, I'll have to speak to him in English. If I visit Toronto, I'll have to speak English there too. French is an official language just as much as English, but we get spit on day after day. Yet, during international events, our Governement brags about how Canada has two official languages while some Ministers can't even speak French when they don't have a paper to read in front of them :lol:. It's really insulting to tell you the truth.

This is good if you asked me. You knew two languages. In Bulgaria we have only one official language - Bulgarian. But I`m Turk who is born and live in Bulgaria and i knew two languages - Bulgarian and Turkish. I knew Bulgarian better then Turkish, of course. But this is confusing sometime.

I tend to say too much when I'm talking about that topic sorry :angel:.

Me too! I love Julia Görges subforum. There is place where I post most.

^^ You must live in Québec to talk french no !? Anyways I can understand your frustration to not having the ability to talk the most beautiful language in the world. :lol: Maybe some day that will come. Hope. :lol:

Vlada , I like this too, I like French and your `r`! But I don`t like a France people! Sometime they are disgusting! But I like you. :lol:

Just kidding. ;) BTW I've been watching some pranks on Youtube for a time now and been killing myself out in laughters to the victims of these :lol: so funny... don't you all watch that !?

Do you talk abaut Iamamiwhoami and Fever Ray? :lol:

Saralah.
Jul 27th, 2011, 09:07 PM
^^ You must live in Québec to talk french no !? Anyways I can understand your frustration to not having the ability to talk the most beautiful language in the world. :lol: Maybe some day that will come. Hope. :lol:
Non. Il y a des communautés francophones hors du Québec, notamment les Acadiens du Nouveau-Brunswick. Mais nous sommes un peu partout au pays en fait :). Et je ne mens pas quand je dis que ma localisation est Montréal, donc oui je parle la plus belle langue du monde avec un splendide accent :cool: .
Something I always wondered: Why do Québécois usually speak English with an accent? I mean, don't you hear English all day on TV, or are you really completely capsuled off in your own media world? (Not meant negatively, just curious.)

And another thing: Isn't it weird that the Habs cheer is Go Habs Go? Seems counterintuitive to me somehow. :scratch:
Yes we have our own TV stations and we produce our own TV shows and movies, and every international movie is translated in "our" French. Everything here is in French and having a sign only in English is illegal. Even videogames that don't have a translated version can't be sold here. Also, unless you are born to an English family it's illegal to go to high school in English. We need strict rules if we want to survive as a community. After all, we're about 7 millions in a sea of around 350 millions English speakers. You can read more about that on wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charta_der_franz%C3%B6sischen_Sprache) if you're interested.

"Habs" is just a nickname for the team. An English analyst thought that the H in the logo meant "Habitants" (it means hockey in fact), so he made up a word with it and now the fans are using it. We have numerous nicknames for the Canadiens, but they don't fit well in a chant :lol: (le Tricolore, la Sainte-Flanelle, le Bleu-Blanc-Rouge, etc).

Iamiwhoami is new group. They have a few song.... Everything started with promo videos in 2009. You can find them here: Promo videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/14/oPFM3DUVT-8). Them first song is B (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/8/M2WDbAFvt6A) O (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/7/MMroXbAmrI8) (second) U-1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/6/izejVXJ_arQ) (third) U-2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/5/WB85HAUXbbM) (fourth) N (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/4/N0BsI8R4izQ) (fifth) T (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/3/bW89Pv8QrX4)(sixth) Y (http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami?blend=3&ob=5#p/u/2/LEoGQU_k78k) (seventh, my favourite them song and last by this stage). After finished this stage of them music they have a concert in forest with one by them fans! :hearts:
This was amazing and incredible. This never ever happened in music world. Epic... All concert you can watch by this youtube member (http://www.youtube.com/user/shasaki). When you have a time you can watch. I give you everything by them and will be very hard to watch everything. :lol:
The fist song by new stage is ; john (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLPxTKR7A70&playnext=1&list=PL1BA332678AF870D1).
I love Iamamiwhoami videos. Maybe best videos in music story ever. They all narrate one story. Videos on first view look expensives but when you looked more in details they looked very cheap. But they all are work of the art. And I`m absolutely serious. :lol:
I like every song of Iamamiwhoami like a Fever ray because they have a few songs. :lol:

This is good if you asked me. You knew two languages. In Bulgaria we have only one official language - Bulgarian. But I`m Turk who is born and live in Bulgaria and i knew two languages - Bulgarian and Turkish. I knew Bulgarian better then Turkish, of course. But this is confusing sometime.
Okay thanks for explaining, I do like "Y". I'll have to listen to the other songs :).
I can't say I like all of Fever Ray's songs, but the good ones are interesting enough for me to keep following the project :).

It would be good if people respected both languages. I mean, my mother can't understand English, and like 90% of the English-Canadians wouldn't be able to hold a conversation in French. That's why I think it doesn't work...
But you were born in Bulgaria, so you already know one more language than people born in English-speaking countries :). And you can add Turkish to that!

Specter
Jul 27th, 2011, 10:13 PM
Yes we have our own TV stations and we produce our own TV shows and movies, and every international movie is translated in "our" French. Everything here is in French and having a sign only in English is illegal. Even videogames that don't have a translated version can't be sold here. Also, unless you are born to an English family it's illegal to go to high school in English. We need strict rules if we want to survive as a community. After all, we're about 7 millions in a sea of around 350 millions English speakers. You can read more about that on wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charta_der_franz%C3%B6sischen_Sprachehttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charta_der_franz%C3%B6sischen_Sprache) if you're interested.

Wow, I didn't know any of that. I had no idea there was, like, a movement to keep Quebec's special status and culture alive like that. Very cool. :yeah: I once saw a documentary about Quebec where they showed a native American village where they were like, "Yeah, we do the whole Indian thing for the tourists, but really we consider ourselves French" which I was amazed by.


"Habs" is just a nickname for the team. An English analyst thought that the H in the logo meant "Habitants" (it means hockey in fact), so he made up a word with it and now the fans are using it. We have numerous nicknames for the Canadiens, but they don't fit well in a chant :lol: (le Tricolore, la Sainte-Flanelle, le Bleu-Blanc-Rouge, etc).

As a hockey fan I know the H stands for hockey. I actually meant counterintuitive because "go" is an English word. ;) And it was a joke.

Vikapower
Jul 27th, 2011, 10:36 PM
Non. Il y a des communautés francophones hors du Québec, notamment les Acadiens du Nouveau-Brunswick. Mais nous sommes un peu partout au pays en fait :). Et je ne mens pas quand je dis que ma localisation est Montréal, donc oui je parle la plus belle langue du monde avec un splendide accent :cool:

:lol: Ah d'accords, bein dans ce cas-çi on est 2 alors ici... râvi de faire ta connaissance moi je suis John au cas où les présentations ne sont pas encore faites et puis et comme tu vois je suis plutôt fan de Julia, Maria, Victoria, rien de spéciale :lol: - Je vit aux antilles au cas où tu y porterait intérêt. :lol: :wavey:

It would be good if people respected both languages. I mean, my mother can't understand English, and like 90% of the English-Canadians wouldn't be able to hold a conversation in French. That's why I think it doesn't work...
But you were born in Bulgaria, so you already know one more language than people born in English-speaking countries :). And you can add Turkish to that!

It's very nice to talk multiple languages... I speak 3, the third is spanish, I would love to learn russian but it's too hard to learn on your own so I've been tucking Ukrainian for like 5-6 months now and I've reached very far since I can read and understand articles etc... I stopped though need to take back.

I don't know much of Canada to be honest, I'd love to speak about it but I can't. :lol: It's never a country to be honest I've payed close attention to because it's kind of confused with France... IDK the fact of the proximity, bilinguality etc...

Once we had a very popular singer called Natasha St-Pier in France, I think she was from Québec, I really liked her.

Skoo
Jul 27th, 2011, 10:54 PM
je suis John

Tu es John? I thought you are a woman! :)

Vikapower
Jul 27th, 2011, 11:51 PM
Tu es John? I thought you are a woman! :)

ROFL no, everyone thinks that. :lol: You understand french too !? I wouldn't be surprised though since I can hint Romanian despite I never learnt any of it's grammar. :lol:

Specter
Jul 27th, 2011, 11:53 PM
ROFL no, everyone thinks that. :lol: You understand french too !? I wouldn't be surprised though since I can hint Romanian despite I never learnt any of it's grammar. :lol:

This place really needs a gender function. :facepalm:

Saralah.
Jul 28th, 2011, 12:42 AM
Wow, I didn't know any of that. I had no idea there was, like, a movement to keep Quebec's special status and culture alive like that. Very cool. :yeah: I once saw a documentary about Quebec where they showed a native American village where they were like, "Yeah, we do the whole Indian thing for the tourists, but really we consider ourselves French" which I was amazed by.

As a hockey fan I know the H stands for hockey. I actually meant counterintuitive because "go" is an English word. ;) And it was a joke.
Yes we almost became a country in 1995, but the yes lost by less than 1% :(. Now I don't think it'll happen, even if it's one of my dearest wishes.
I didn't know that about Native Americans. It's sad because the image we have of them is very negative. I can't say I have a high opinion of them either, but I know it's not right... We stole their lands so it's normal that they have a special status, but I'd wish they'd stop complaining and would try to merge with the community. Not forgeting their culture, just live with us. Because for now most of them live in protected areas and they're having a lot of social problems there.

It's hard to tell when someone tells a joke on a forum!! We don't say "Allez" here when we cheer for someone or when we practice sports, which is why I find it weird when French players say that.
It's very nice that you are a hockey fan! What's your favourite team? Do you follow the NHL much?

:lol: Ah d'accords, bein dans ce cas-çi on est 2 alors ici... râvi de faire ta connaissance moi je suis John au cas où les présentations ne sont pas encore faites et puis et comme tu vois je suis plutôt fan de Julia, Maria, Victoria, rien de spéciale :lol: - Je vit aux antilles au cas où tu y porterait intérêt. :lol: :wavey:

It's very nice to talk multiple languages... I speak 3, the third is spanish, I would love to learn russian but it's too hard to learn on your own so I've been tucking Ukrainian for like 5-6 months now and I've reached very far since I can read and understand articles etc... I stopped though need to take back.

I don't know much of Canada to be honest, I'd love to speak about it but I can't. :lol: It's never a country to be honest I've payed close attention to because it's kind of confused with France... IDK the fact of the proximity, bilinguality etc...

Once we had a very popular singer called Natasha St-Pier in France, I think she was from Québec, I really liked her.
Enchantée, moi c'est Sarah :D. C'est comment aux Antilles? Ça ressemble plus aux pays d'Amérique du Sud ou aux villes du Sud de la France? Est-ce que tu te sens vraiment Français?
...... J'étais pas trop sûre si tu étais un homme non plus LOL.

I agree about languages but most of them are really hard. I tried learning German, but I'll have to take a lot more courses to be good. I'd just wish I was able to talk in the past, really :lol:.

Canada's history is not very interesting when you compare it to other countries... so maybe just be interested in what we're doing NOW :angel:.

Yes Natasha St-Pier comes from here, but her music is too soft for our tastes I think. And the fact that she now sings with a French accent has made her unpopular here. As far as I'm concerned, you can keep her and we'll keep Isabelle Boulay :hearts:.

Thanks for the interest guys no one usually seems to give a shit about what's going on up in the North :sad:.

Vikapower
Jul 28th, 2011, 01:02 AM
Enchantée, moi c'est Sarah :D. C'est comment aux Antilles? Ça ressemble plus aux pays d'Amérique du Sud ou aux villes du Sud de la France? Est-ce que tu te sens vraiment Français?
...... J'étais pas trop sûre si tu étais un homme non plus LOL.

Bein c'est plutôt pas mal à vrai dire en ce moment même où je t'écrit le climat est assez délétaire, beaucoup de pluie, de nuages et de tonnerres. :lol: Mais en général, il fait plutôt chauds et il y as beaucoup de soleil -- à part ça je ne suis pas sûre que l'architecture soit pareil comme dans les pays d'Amérique latine ici c'est plutôt case en bois et tôle, j'exagère un peu cela dit. :lol: Cela tends à disparaître avec le temps mais je me souvient qu'avant c'était très très courant.

Je sait que l'histoire entre la Guadeloupe et la France est assez conséquente mais personellement je me sens 100% français même s'il faut dire que mes parents sont d'origine Dominicaise, l'île voisine ex-colonie Britannique. :) J'ai fait un peu plus du tiers, quart... je ne sait mdr de ma vie sur l'île et j'espère un jour la quitter pour aller dans une grande métropole et je brûle pour l'Espagne. :lol:

Yes Natasha St-Pier comes from here, but her music is too soft for our tastes I think. And the fact that she now sings with a French accent has made her unpopular here. As far as I'm concerned, you can keep her and we'll keep Isabelle Boulay :hearts:.

:lol: Well to be honest she's not really a star in France anymore anyways as far as I know her music has kind of become obsolete :lol: but I really like her especially her duet with David Hallyday.

Canada's history is not very interesting when you compare it to other countries... so maybe just be interested in what we're doing NOW :angel:.

So how is it to have had the honor to receive Princess Kate and Harry !? :lol: I can't remember whixh city it was exactly but they sure had there Cowboy going. :lol:

Specter
Jul 28th, 2011, 01:10 AM
It's hard to tell when someone tells a joke on a forum!!

I can be pretty dry sometimes. People often don't even get me IRL and definitely not on forums. But I've just never been much of a smiley abuser.

We don't say "Allez" here when we cheer for someone or when we practice sports, which is why I find it weird when French players say that.

That's a fun fact. I had no idea.

It's very nice that you are a hockey fan! What's your favourite team? Do you follow the NHL much?

I'm a Sharks fan. I normally support teams from Seattle, but they don't have an NHL team and so the Bay Area is next in my fave line (except in basketball, where Dirk is next in my fave line :worship:).
I used to watch almost every Sharks game a couple of years ago, but I just don't have the time anymore, so I just do what I can and catch as many games as possible.

In the DEL I support my home team, the Ice Tigers. :bounce:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/Thomas_Sabo_Ice_Tigers_logo.png

Banditoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 07:14 AM
Okay thanks for explaining, I do like "Y". I'll have to listen to the other songs .
I can't say I like all of Fever Ray's songs, but the good ones are interesting enough for me to keep following the project .

Ok, I don`t like very "The Wolf" by Fever Ray and U-1+U-2 by Iamamiwhoami. Yes you are absolutely right in second part.

It would be good if people respected both languages. I mean, my mother can't understand English, and like 90% of the English-Canadians wouldn't be able to hold a conversation in French. That's why I think it doesn't work...
But you were born in Bulgaria, so you already know one more language than people born in English-speaking countries :). And you can add Turkish to that!

In Bulgaria young people know only Bulgarian, because Bulgarian children is very lazy. We are last in EU in education. And this make me sad! I want to live in other country where education is better than Bulgaria - like a Germany, England, Canada, USA or French. But I`m born 9in Bulgaria. :help:
My mum know Russian, Bulgarian and Turkish. Before in schools they should to learn Russians, because we were first friend with Russia.
I know Bulgarian and Turkish but when I went to other country they don`t to must me. I will learn German in 10th class (I`m now 8th class). And this will be good. But I want to know Arabic.This is very interesting language. BTW I know to read Arabic...
Whether is Canada patchy of pieces? English regions and French Regions? This is not good to one country, I think?

It's very nice to talk multiple languages... I speak 3, the third is spanish, I would love to learn russian but it's too hard to learn on your own so I've been tucking Ukrainian for like 5-6 months now and I've reached very far since I can read and understand articles etc... I stopped though need to take back.

Bulgarian, Russian and other Slavic peoples have a very resembling languages. I can to understand when one Russian talk to me. :)
If you learn Russians we can talk with you on Bulgarian. :lol:
Ooo, please not on French I can`t understand anything. :help::lol:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/Thomas_Sabo_Ice_Tigers_logo.png
You live in Nurnberg? Very nice city!

Specter
Jul 28th, 2011, 07:45 AM
You live in Nurnberg? Very nice city!

I live in the wider area, not in Nürnberg itself. I used to go to school there for years, though. :)

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 08:03 AM
ROFL no, everyone thinks that. :lol: You understand french too !? I wouldn't be surprised though since I can hint Romanian despite I never learnt any of it's grammar. :lol:

Yeah, there were also some hints, like when you said even you (a heterosexual girl I thought) watch Julia because she's adorable :) I don't understand much French, and I can write even less. All I know is from school (and I was not a good pupil) :)

Banditoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 09:21 AM
I now will watch Bachinger vs. Bennetau.
Who watch men tennis? And if you watch who is your favourites player? :)

Vikapower
Jul 28th, 2011, 03:45 PM
In Bulgaria young people know only Bulgarian, because Bulgarian children is very lazy. We are last in EU in education. And this make me sad! I want to live in other country where education is better than Bulgaria - like a Germany, England, Canada, USA or French. But I`m born 9in Bulgaria. :help:
My mum know Russian, Bulgarian and Turkish. Before in schools they should to learn Russians, because we were first friend with Russia.

Well perhaps it can be your goal to change things a bit by doing your best on your side... :lol: Anyways speaking about education I'm not sure we have the best one in University. :lol: We have one of the worst universities in Europe because our government does not invest into them for time it's the place where 60 to 70% of the students decided to go.

They prefer invest into or promote more elitist schools that were either kept alive after the monarchy (Henri IV, L'ENA...) or created recently like HEC, ESSEC etc... these schools are for the best students of the country or basically those who's marks like 16+ on regular basis. Anyways this is how the educational system works there, it's a 2 way speed -- not investing in the universities and research while it's the place where most students go is the dumbest thing ever but what can you do.


Bulgarian, Russian and other Slavic peoples have a very resembling languages. I can to understand when one Russian talk to me. :)
If you learn Russians we can talk with you on Bulgarian. :lol:
Ooo, please not on French I can`t understand anything. :help::lol:

:lol: Yes I know, Ukrainian though is kind of derivate of polish... I can understand Ukrainian on paper but don't get a word from Russian so much both languages are far from one another. Initially I started Ukrainian because I thought it would help me out in Russian but needless to say [...] :lol:

Yeah, there were also some hints, like when you said even you (a heterosexual girl I thought) watch Julia because she's adorable :) I don't understand much French, and I can write even less. All I know is from school (and I was not a good pupil) :)

:lol: No, no, I don't think I ever said that. :lol: French, Italian, Spanish etc... are all latin languages and Romanian too with a strong Italian influence. I did latin for 2 years so it's really helpful for these.

Michael!
Jul 28th, 2011, 03:48 PM
Vikapower isn´t a woman :unsure: :spit: :hysteric:

Ayumilover.
Jul 28th, 2011, 03:50 PM
Hey guys let me introduce myself!...

Ayumilover.
Jul 28th, 2011, 03:55 PM
Ok so I am 15. :cool:
I love Julia Goerges :hearts:
I am from Minnesota :help:
I coppied my own tennis game after Julia and i'm a guy! :lol:
I've been a huge Julia fan since I first saw her play Ana in 09. (its kind of funny to see how many fans she has gained since then)
I love soccer too.
My other favorites are Morita, LiNa, Rezai. Other than that, theres several others i like but those are my top 4.
My favorite blonde player is Lisicki but I have a lot of respect for Sharapova, and Szavay and Kirilenko are alright.
My favorite grand-slam is the Australian Open, but my favorite sporting event is the World Cup.

Vikapower
Jul 28th, 2011, 03:59 PM
Ok so I am 15. :cool:
I love Julia Goerges :hearts:
I am from Minnesota :help:
I coppied my own tennis game after Julia and i'm a guy! :lol:
I've been a huge Julia fan since I first saw her play Ana in 09. (its kind of funny to see how many fans she has gained since then)
I love soccer too.
My other favorites are Morita, LiNa, Rezai. Other than that, theres several others i like but those are my top 4.
My favorite blonde player is Lisicki but I have a lot of respect for Sharapova, and Szavay and Kirilenko are alright.
My favorite grand-slam is the Australian Open, but my favorite sporting event is the World Cup.

Nice to meet you, you guys are very young. :lol:

Vikapower isn´t a woman :unsure: :spit: :hysteric:

:lol: Why does everybody think I'm a girl !? That's crazy. :lol: :scared:

Ayumilover.
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:05 PM
Nice to meet you, you guys are very young. :lol:



:lol: Why does everybody think I'm a girl !? That's crazy. :lol: :scared:

i think before i joined the forum, you said somewhere that you were a girl? :lol: idk! how old are you though?
et je parle de francais aussi, mais juste un peu.

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:09 PM
:lol: No, no, I don't think I ever said that.

Yes, you did:

Well you know even I myself can't prevent watching HER despite how intense the match is, how captivating her slow motions are --- she's just very lovely. :angel: We're all humans after all -- you're even better placed to explain the psychological side of that. :lol:

But that last phrase could have made me wonder about your gender :)



Vikapower isn´t a woman :unsure: :spit: :hysteric:

Yeah, that's sad. Were you falling for "her" too? :lol:

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:12 PM
:lol: Why does everybody think I'm a girl !? That's crazy. :lol: :scared:

I hope you won't be offended by this, but your profile pic doesn't help :) And then the nickname Vlada and the "hints" :lol:

Michael!
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:16 PM
Nice to meet you, you guys are very young. :lol:




not all :p




Yeah, that's sad. Were you falling for "her" too? :lol:

oh, well, I like to talk to girls and guys :shrug: :lol:

Vikapower
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:17 PM
Yes, you did:



But that last phrase could have made me wonder about your gender :)

:hatoff: Ok no problem but that was in the hypothesis that everyone thought including you that I was a girl which obviously I'm not. :lol: :cool: Now that you know I'm a boy then you can understand the context. :lol:

i think before i joined the forum, you said somewhere that you were a girl? :lol: idk! how old are you though?
et je parle de francais aussi, mais juste un peu.

:lol: On GM perhaps !? But you should really not totally trust what people write on GM and ESPECIALLY me if you want to save your life... I'm the first to admit. :cool:

If people only just clicked my profile... :lol: I'm 23 years of age (3rd of October 1987). ;)

Vikapower
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:21 PM
not all :p

:lol: What's you age then !?

I hope you won't be offended by this, but your profile pic doesn't help :) And then the nickname Vlada and the "hints" :lol:

:lol: Come on, I'm not offended, to be honest I don't deny that I played with confusion people had on me quite a lot on GM. :o

I explained to Howard and Rovegun why I took the name Vlada because she's one of my favorite models : Vlada Roslyakova is her complete name, you see. :lol:

As for the profile pic I love it because it's so dark and mysterious. :cool:

Banditoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:25 PM
Vikapower do you disappointed with thread name? If you are I will change it. :)

Michael!
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:26 PM
:lol: What's you age then !?




26 in September :p

Vikapower
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:31 PM
26 in September :p

:lol: That's cool, only 2 years difference between us -- how do we feel as the grand-pa's of Sprechen Sie Deuce and Sprechen Sie Deuce > Julia Görges !? :lol:

Vikapower do you disappointed with thread name? If you are I will change it. :)

:p You can keep it if you wish, it's quite fun since everybody thought I was a girl. :lol:

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:34 PM
oh, well, I like to talk to girls and guys :shrug: :lol:

With guys and girls or with guys-girls? :lol:

:lol: Come on, I'm not offended, to be honest I don't deny that I played with confusion people had on me quite a lot on GM. :o

I explained to Howard and Rovegun why I took the name Vlada because she's one of my favorite models : Vlada Roslyakova is her complete name, you see. :lol:

As for the profile pic I love it because it's so dark and mysterious. :cool:

OK, now I understand why Vlada, but I wasn't talking about your avatar. Your profile picture (I don't know if it's called that on this forum). The picture of you. You should put one with a beard :lol: (I hope you're still not offended)

Anyway, this will make headlines! :lol:

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:38 PM
Hahah I wish! No I don't really know her, we just have a mutual friend but i'm hoping that I can train with her maybe next year. that might be delusional though.

Train with her? That's even better than knowing her, you can see her bounce, bend over, etc. :lol:

Vikapower
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:41 PM
OK, now I understand why Vlada, but I wasn't talking about your avatar. Your profile picture (I don't know if it's called that on this forum). The picture of you. You should put one with a beard :lol: (I hope you're still not offended)

Anyway, this will make headlines! :lol:

Oh, you're speaking about this (http://awesomescreenshot.com/07dhhme60). That's not me, just a lovely girl from the caribbean I thought that would fit well in this spot... I had Sorana here before her. :lol:

Vikapower
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:45 PM
Ayumilover. knows Julia... :eek: I saw this on the US Open series thread -- Ayumi should bring us some regular insights on our lovely Julia... :lol: BTW having a mutual friend with her is already so awesome. :hearts:

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:45 PM
Oh, you're speaking about this (http://awesomescreenshot.com/07dhhme60). That's not me, just a lovely girl from the caribbean I thought that would fit well in this spot... I had Sorana here before her. :lol:

So you have pictures with girls everywhere, you use the nickname Vlada, you give "hints" (not only to me, as we have seen), and then you act surprised that people think you're a woman? :lol:

Michael!
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:47 PM
:lol: That's cool, only 2 years difference between us -- how do we feel as the grand-pa's of Sprechen Sie Deuce and Sprechen Sie Deuce > Julia Görges !? :lol:



:p

well, there are even some older ones here in Sprechen Sie Deuce, I just noticed that all those crazy fans and new fans are often teenagers, I mean, usually older fans are a bit more "normal", if you understand what I mean :lol:

But I don´t feel too uncomfortable, chatting with younger people keeps me young at least and I don´t chat here that often anyway, my closer contacts usually have my age :cool: :lol:


With guys and girls or with guys-girls? :lol:




guys-girls :scared: that sounds scary :lol:

guys and girls, as I don´t really care here if I talk to a guy or a girl, as long as the person is nice :angel:

Banditoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:48 PM
Well perhaps it can be your goal to change things a bit by doing your best on your side... :lol: Anyways speaking about education I'm not sure we have the best one in University. :lol: We have one of the worst universities in Europe because our government does not invest into them for time it's the place where 60 to 70% of the students decided to go.

They prefer invest into or promote more elitist schools that were either kept alive after the monarchy (Henri IV, L'ENA...) or created recently like HEC, ESSEC etc... these schools are for the best students of the country or basically those who's marks like 16+ on regular basis. Anyways this is how the educational system works there, it's a 2 way speed -- not investing in the universities and research while it's the place where most students go is the dumbest thing ever but what can you do.

We have this problem, too.Every young people go to others countries. But education in France is better than education in Bulgaria. France is big country and have a young and smart children. We have only lazy children. France have a more money for education by Bulgaria. I prefer France than Bulgaria.


:lol: Yes I know, Ukrainian though is kind of derivate of polish... I can understand Ukrainian on paper but don't get a word from Russian so much both languages are far from one another. Initially I started Ukrainian because I thought it would help me out in Russian but needless to say [...] :lol:

Yes! Ukrainian is very different than others Slavic languages. But Bulgarian and Russian have a very similarities but they have a differences, too.

Ok so I am 15. :cool:

Ok, This mean I`m baby of this subforum. :lol:

I am from Minnesota :help:

:lol: You are from USA, baby. You must be happy with this. I`m from Bulgaria?!? :lol:


My other favorites are Morita, LiNa, Rezai. Other than that, theres several others i like but those are my top 4.

You are from US and you doesn`t like Williams sisters?!? :eek: :sobbing::hysteric:

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 04:54 PM
guys-girls :scared: that sounds scary :lol:

guys and girls, as I don´t really care here if I talk to a guy or a girl, as long as the person is nice :angel:

Yeah, me too, but a nice carribean woman who likes Julia and her game is better than a guy. If you ask me, that is :lol:

Vikapower
Jul 28th, 2011, 05:03 PM
:p

well, there are even some older ones here in Sprechen Sie Deuce, I just noticed that all those crazy fans and new fans are often teenagers, I mean, usually older fans are a bit more "normal", if you understand what I mean :lol:

You're not the only on that noticed though... but it's pretty cool, it keeps the forum kind of lively. :oh:

But I don´t feel too uncomfortable, chatting with younger people keeps me young at least and I don´t chat here that often anyway, my closer contacts usually have my age :cool: :lol:

Personally that doesn't bug me and often the 15, 16 etc... year older have better if not equal analysis about the game than sometimes many of the older ones do. :oh:

Me too I don't much chat TF (which explains my 2.63 posts/day compared to some I've seen with 11,000 posts in 2 years :sobbing:) but it's nice to have a place where probably other center of interests, cultures... and all are discussed. :cool:

BTW 26 years is not old, come on, we're all still so young. :angel:

Banditoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 05:04 PM
:p

well, there are even some older ones here in Sprechen Sie Deuce, I just noticed that all those crazy fans and new fans are often teenagers, I mean, usually older fans are a bit more "normal", if you understand what I mean :lol:

But I don´t feel too uncomfortable, chatting with younger people keeps me young at least and I don´t chat here that often anyway, my closer contacts usually have my age :cool: :lol:

:lol: I`m a very "normal" fan! I woke up 3:00 in midnight for to watch Juli when I have a school. (IW. Match versus Jankovic)... I`m very "normal" fan! :lol:

I love when I talk with other nice people. I don`t care about them age, country or others thing. I love communication with people. :p

Ayumilover.
Jul 28th, 2011, 05:56 PM
@ Banditoo- How old are you? lol. Yes, Minnesota is okay, but it can get really cold and people here are extremely reserved. I live in the suburbs or Mineapolis-St. Paul so the quality of life is really nice and homes and schools are great, and facilities are great but in the city, its dirtier and not to come across as racist or anything, but there is a growing somali problem that many people strongly dislike. and liek half of minnesota are norwiegan or swedish lol. and there are soo many chinese people here too. all the chinese people that go to my school are ultra smart.
and about not liking the williams sister...jsut remember, 98% percent of people in america that know about the williams sisters have no idea who julia goerges is. they aren't true tennis fans.

@ Vlada, I don't know Julia personally, i have just been in contact with her. However, my friend from Germany does know Julia and im pretty sure he is the reason Julia started to reply to me.

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 06:01 PM
I don't know Julia personally, i have just been in contact with her. However, my friend from Germany does know Julia and im pretty sure he is the reason Julia started to reply to me.

So do you know anything special about her that you would like to share with us? :)

Ayumilover.
Jul 28th, 2011, 06:03 PM
hmm maybe. what would you like to know?

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 06:11 PM
hmm maybe. what would you like to know?

You know, the tabloid stuff: Is she dating someone? :)

Ayumilover.
Jul 28th, 2011, 06:13 PM
QUOTE=Skoo;19945870]You know, the tabloid stuff: Is she dating someone? :)[/QUOTE]

I don't know. My friend might know but i've never asked.
I do know however her parents do not speak. :awww:

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 06:20 PM
I do know however her parents do not speak. :awww:

Yeah, they don't stay together when their daugther is playing. I don't think it affects her though.

Ayumilover.
Jul 28th, 2011, 06:25 PM
Also she has a good friend that died two years ago. a guy but not a boyfriend.

Banditoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 06:37 PM
@ Banditoo- How old are you

14.

Yes, Minnesota is okay, but it can get really cold and people here are extremely reserved. I live in the suburbs or Mineapolis-St. Paul so the quality of life is really nice and homes and schools are great, and facilities are great but in the city, its dirtier and not to come across as racist or anything, but there is a growing somali problem that many people strongly dislike. and liek half of minnesota are norwiegan or swedish lol. and there are soo many chinese people here too. all the chinese people that go to my school are ultra smart.

You have a great chance to talk with other people from others countries. You live in big city in USA. This is great chance for development in your way. You can study in super school. But in Haskovo, city where I live, I can to enjoy on nature. Everything have a positives and negatives.

and about not liking the williams sister...jsut remember, 98% percent of people in america that know about the williams sisters have no idea who julia goerges is. they aren't true tennis fans.


But you are american! Do are you happy when Williams sisters won something? If you love your country you must happy when they won something, I think. I like every bulgarian player. But I`m not nationalist= Maybe I`m in false but I think like that. :)

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 06:41 PM
Also she has a good friend that died two years ago. a guy but not a boyfriend.

:sad: Hmm, maybe these things did affect her. Maybe she could have done more in the last three years if not for these personal things. Not very likely, but there is a chance.

So no tabloid stuff, huh? :)

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 06:44 PM
I like every bulgarian player. But I`m not nationalist= Maybe I`m in false but I think like that. :)

Would you like Tsvetana to beat Julia? :)

Ayumilover.
Jul 28th, 2011, 06:54 PM
Usually but not always. Tennis is more individual and I really care about my favorites so im not to patriotic but for men's tennis where i am not as big about, i support the americans.

Malkmus_
Jul 28th, 2011, 06:57 PM
Hello all. :D
It's a bit odd to be English and support a German :lol:, but Julia is amazing! :hearts: :angel:
I'm 21 and from London.

Vikapower
Jul 28th, 2011, 07:14 PM
^^ Hello -- why is it odd to be english and support a german !? :lol: For me in the state french tennis is right now I think I have no choice. :silly: :lol:

Malkmus_
Jul 28th, 2011, 07:18 PM
Oh it's just usually the football banter between us and the Germans. They're like our biggest rivals in football :D, but they usually always beat us! :devil: :sobbing:

Ha, I know what you mean about the poor standard, being British and all. :lol:

Michael!
Jul 28th, 2011, 07:24 PM
Personally that doesn't bug me and often the 15, 16 etc... year older have better if not equal analysis about the game than sometimes many of the older ones do. :oh:

Me too I don't much chat TF (which explains my 2.63 posts/day compared to some I've seen with 11,000 posts in 2 years :sobbing:) but it's nice to have a place where probably other center of interests, cultures... and all are discussed. :cool:

BTW 26 years is not old, come on, we're all still so young. :angel:

I used to chat more here, in chat threads etc. but I am not in mood anymore, these days you normally only see me posting in players threads etc. :cool:

well, sure, 16yo fans can have some good knowledge as well but it feels strange sometimes when I say that I used to be a big fan of Anke Huber and then say they that they don´t even know her :sobbing:

of course, I am still young and full of energy, let´s go :cool: :lol:


:lol: I`m a very "normal" fan! I woke up 3:00 in midnight for to watch Juli when I have a school. (IW. Match versus Jankovic)... I`m very "normal" fan! :lol:

I love when I talk with other nice people. I don`t care about them age, country or others thing. I love communication with people. :p

oh, well, I sometimes watch matches, even when they are in the middle of the night but when I do it my fave loses most of the time and then it is not worth it at all :tape: :o

Ayumilover.
Jul 28th, 2011, 07:27 PM
Yes same here! I will always stay up late to see my favorites. Or even skip school a couple times :lol: :tape:

Ayumilover.
Jul 28th, 2011, 07:29 PM
[/QUOTE]

oh, well, I sometimes watch matches, even when they are in the middle of the night but when I do it my fave loses most of the time and then it is not worth it at all :tape: :o[/QUOTE]

Like right now, I should be practicing soccer, but instead i am watching ayumi screw up. :rolleyes:

Vikapower
Jul 28th, 2011, 07:46 PM
I used to chat more here, in chat threads etc. but I am not in mood anymore, these days you normally only see me posting in players threads etc. :cool:

well, sure, 16yo fans can have some good knowledge as well but it feels strange sometimes when I say that I used to be a big fan of Anke Huber and then say they that they don´t even know her :sobbing:

of course, I am still young and full of energy, let´s go :cool: :lol:

:unsure: I'm 23 and to be honest I knew very little from the tennis of the past until I got interested around 2009 or something... :lol: I only started following tennis in 2004 with Maria Sharapova and she was the only one that counted truly for me before 2008...

I think many of the 16 more or less year olds have only started following the game in the recent times so I can understand them.

oh, well, I sometimes watch matches, even when they are in the middle of the night but when I do it my fave loses most of the time and then it is not worth it at all :tape: :o

I HATE the Australian Open for that... :lol: It forces me either to stay awake whole night or to wake up at some awkward times and then my fave losses and I'm like super disgusted especially if she losses something like 1 and 0. :lol: :help:

Banditoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 07:55 PM
Would you like Tsvetana to beat Julia? :)

Maybe noo! :o
I like very much Julia. but I`m for Cveti when she didn`t play against Williams or Julia.

Usually but not always. Tennis is more individual and I really care about my favorites so im not to patriotic but for men's tennis where i am not as big about, i support the americans.

What you don`t like in Williams game? :)

well, sure, 16yo fans can have some good knowledge as well but it feels strange sometimes when I say that I used to be a big fan of Anke Huber and then say they that they don´t even know her :sobbing:

Who is Huber? - just kidding :lol: I like her too. I watch her some match. She have a great game on the net. She have a very good technique. Very intelligent and incredible player.

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 08:02 PM
Well, I'm 24, but these teenagers probably have been watching tennis for a much longer time than I did. I'm only watching since RG last year :o I know who Anke Huber is though. The only other German who won Stuttgart :)

Michael!
Jul 28th, 2011, 08:02 PM
:unsure: I'm 23 and to be honest I knew very little from the tennis of the past until I got interested around 2009 or something... :lol: I only started following tennis in 2004 with Maria Sharapova and she was the only one that counted truly for me before 2008...

I think many of the 16 more or less year olds have only started following the game in the recent times so I can understand them.



well,I started to follow tennis pretty early, I mean, tennis was so popular in Germany in the late 80s/early 90s with Becker,Graf,Stich und Huber, it was almost impossible not to follow it! :p :lol:
Well, my first tennis memories are from 1995 :angel: :lol:

But now it is not that interesting anymore, many of my favs retired and I am not that much into those new young players :lol:

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 08:03 PM
Maybe noo! :o
I like very much Julia. but I`m for Cveti when she didn`t play against Williams or Julia.

Well, I suppose you really are not a nationalist :)

Michael!
Jul 28th, 2011, 08:09 PM
Well, I'm 24, but these teenagers probably have been watching tennis for a much longer time than I did. I'm only watching since RG last year :o I know who Anke Huber is though. The only other German who won Stuttgart :)

:hearts: :lol:

She also reached final in Melbourne, won Masters of Champions (some tournament which only existed for one year :spit:) and reached No.4 in rankings :angel: :lol:

Ayumilover.
Jul 28th, 2011, 08:09 PM
@ Skoo, no i jsut don't like the WS plus i just love my favorites. I've been intent on the tour since the start of 08 but i followed some in 07 (the GS). Li Na was the main reason I got interested in the first place lol.

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 08:14 PM
:hearts: :lol:

She also reached final in Melbourne, won Masters of Champions (some tournament which only existed for one year :spit:) and reached No.4 in rankings :angel: :lol:

Yeah, whatever :lol: But tell me, why didn't Steffi ever win Stuttgart? Was she tanking or didn't participate much? :)

@ Skoo, no i jsut don't like the WS plus i just love my favorites. I've been intent on the tour since the start of 08 but i followed some in 07 (the GS). Li Na was the main reason I got interested in the first place lol.

Are you sure you wanted to reply to me? :)

Michael!
Jul 28th, 2011, 08:20 PM
Yeah, whatever :lol: But tell me, why didn't Steffi ever win Stuttgart? Was she tanking or didn't participate much? :)




last time she played there was in 1985, when she just was 16, after that she didn´t even play there anymore, the relation between Filderstadt and her wasn´t that great due to a few reasons...:p

Ayumilover.
Jul 28th, 2011, 08:21 PM
Oh yeah hahah sorry it was Banditoo.

Vikapower
Jul 28th, 2011, 08:38 PM
Well, I'm 24, but these teenagers probably have been watching tennis for a much longer time than I did. I'm only watching since RG last year :o I know who Anke Huber is though. The only other German who won Stuttgart :)

Wow that's pretty short :lol: but never too early to start -- to be honest I've been hearing tennis since probably the early 2000's or something but it never really took my mind... when I discovered Maria I was 17 and she really captivated me because of you know why. :oh:

Then I became a fan of Nicole because I thought she would have been the next Maria, sadly (I miss her so much :sobbing:), Maria then got hurt in 2008 and I wasn't watching or planning to watch any tennis when I discovered Victoria, then Sabine and in RG 2009 I literally had a crush on Sorana the 3rd love of my life. :lol: :angel:

And finally Julia. :angel:

well,I started to follow tennis pretty early, I mean, tennis was so popular in Germany in the late 80s/early 90s with Becker,Graf,Stich und Huber, it was almost impossible not to follow it! :p :lol:
Well, my first tennis memories are from 1995 :angel: :lol:

But now it is not that interesting anymore, many of my favs retired and I am not that much into those new young players :lol:

Ah, yes, I forget you are from Germany so it's true that many of you must have started watching since from the cradle. :lol: Julia herself had said in an ITW that she had started watching Stuttgart since baby. :lol:

I can't really speak of before and I might sound biased but I think tennis right now is interesting in a different manner. Personally I just love the sport more than any other, I've been in women's tennis for like 5 years now and I just don't see myself completely stop following the game. :lol:

That said in the new crop of girls 93, 94, I've seen nobody other than Kristina Mladenovic and Coco Vandeweghe for who I could become passionate about but we'll see.

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2011, 08:56 PM
Wow that's pretty short :lol:

Yeah, does it show? :) I was getting bored by the low quality of the material I had to study for my licence degree and saw a match between Caro and Flavia. I found Caro's game interesting, especially those moonballs :lol:

I know Julia because she beat my favourite at the time, Sam. I also liked Lena much and had short crushes on Petko and Wicky. I'm starting to like Sabine and I saw a very good display of tennis from Sori last week. If she does it again, I might like her too :)

Specter
Jul 28th, 2011, 09:39 PM
Looks like I've missed all the fun while I was at work. :unsure:

Michael!
Jul 28th, 2011, 09:54 PM
u had for sure some fun at work as as well :p

Banditoo
Jul 30th, 2011, 04:16 PM
I will go to Astronomy summer school by 2 until 10 august and I won`t can to watch Julia! :bigcry:

Skoo
Jul 30th, 2011, 05:10 PM
I will go to Astronomy summer school by 2 until 10 august and I won`t can to watch Julia! :bigcry:

That is sad indeed. But hey, astronomy could worth more than a lousy performance by Julia, should the latter happen :)

Skoo
Aug 3rd, 2011, 08:46 AM
OMG :scared:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWo2iS3G9dE&feature=related

Well, replacing a fairy tale with another is not really a disaster. It is getting disastrous when people believing in the literal "truth" of the fairy tales start killing each other. Maybe most of those muslims are actually atheist and immigrate for better science education :)

Specter
Aug 3rd, 2011, 03:30 PM
Well, replacing a fairy tale with another is not really a disaster. It is getting disastrous when people believing in the literal "truth" of the fairy tales start killing each other. Maybe most of those muslims are actually atheist and immigrate for better science education :)

I believe statistically it's quite the opposite, at least for Turks. From what I've heard, the more liberal Turks stay in Turkey and the more conservative, lower educated Turks from the countryside migrate. That was named as one of the reasons why Erdogan came to Germany to campaign for his reelection: because there are so many conservative Turks here who would vote for him. And I believe they did just that.

Doesn't really matter though, it's not the Muslims' fault no one here wants kids anymore and Germany is now the country with the least children in Europe, percentage wise. That's all on us. And I count myself to those people because I'd rather cut my left foot off than have a kid. :shrug:

Meh. Whatever happens happens. It's not like we can really change it now.

Skoo
Aug 3rd, 2011, 03:56 PM
I believe statistically it's quite the opposite, at least for Turks. From what I've heard, the more liberal Turks stay in Turkey and the more conservative, lower educated Turks from the countryside migrate. That was named as one of the reasons why Erdogan came to Germany to campaign for his reelection: because there are so many conservative Turks here who would vote for him. And I believe they did just that.

Doesn't really matter though, it's not the Muslims' fault no one here wants kids anymore and Germany is now the country with the least children in Europe, percentage wise. That's all on us. And I count myself to those people because I'd rather cut my left foot off than have a kid. :shrug:

Meh. Whatever happens happens. It's not like we can really change it now.

So they really are trying to spread Allah's word over God's :lol: Well, at least they're peaceful this time. I still hope that reason will win soon though. It has to. There is also a relatively reliabile (i.e. idealistic) prediction here (http://www.peoplesworld.org/scientists-suggest-reason-for-religion-s-decline/).

It's a good thing that people there don't want children anymore. It shows that you people are civilised. Overpopulation is our biggest issue and the ones that reproduce more are uneducated or very poor people. And they carry the sign of the beast :lol:

Banditoo
Aug 11th, 2011, 09:54 AM
Hello people!

Skoo
Aug 11th, 2011, 10:34 AM
Hello people!

Welcome back. How was the astronomy summer school? :)

Banditoo
Aug 11th, 2011, 04:52 PM
Welcome back. How was the astronomy summer school? :)

There was a very cool. We went to Rozhen. There is biggest telescope in Balkans country - 2m diameter mirror. They have 2telescope with 60cm diameter, telescope 30cm diameter, 18cm diameter and sun telescope with 15cm. We could use 30cm, 18 cm and 15 cm telescopes. This was very interesting and cool. We didn`t speed during night. And we watch stars. I had great time with friend and teachers. One of my photo:
http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/6E/C3/414edb72594c6ec3.jpg

Ayumilover.
Aug 11th, 2011, 05:07 PM
Nice photo :)
You missed a really close match yesterday :lol:

Skoo
Aug 11th, 2011, 06:37 PM
^^ Very nice. You missed a few things, like the close match Ayumilover mentioned and her best performances (against JJ and Serena), but also a bad loss last week. Anyway, do not despair, the best is still to come :)

Banditoo
Aug 14th, 2011, 11:25 AM
No, it`s not bad at all, it`s just a little funny, but very good to understand.


Yes I understand. Thank you for words. But Emglish is my 3rd language and i`m only 14 year old. I have a time to learn English mush better. I`m 8th class. In this year I will have 4 hours English in school. This will halp me for more good English, I hope. :)

Dispeker
Aug 16th, 2011, 11:49 AM
Hello all!

I just signed up for this board. I was looking for a place where I can discuss or exchange views about julia görges, since I am a really big fan of her. Especially after the last results I somehow felt a strong urge to communicate to other fans, because this recent rollercoaster ride concerning her matches is really - how to say - "exhausting". Right now I'm still gutted about the yesterday's result, for I really thought she had finally found her game on hardcourt.. :( I have still some hope, though. I always have ;)

Anyway, maybe I could tell you how I became a fan of her. It started in 2008 when I watched tv and channel hopped through the channels. Suddenly, I was struck by the beauty of a young woman and you can guess who she was ;) It was an interview on the channel NDR which you still can find on the internet, I think. I could barely concentrate on what they talked about, for I was a little bit mesmerized by those stunning turquoise eyes.. Anyway, somewhere at the end of that interview I figured out that she was an upcoming tennis player. From this point on I began to follow her career, which basically meant that I sporadically checked her results ;) So, I confess, at that time I was more a fan of her than of her tennis.
That changed in 2010 when I realized that she has indeed huge potential. I don't have to go into detail here as you all know about her strenghts (big fh, serve, etc.). As she reached the semifinal in parlermo and than finally won her first tournament in gastein, I finally became the huge jule fan that I am still today. From then on, she also got me interested in tennis in general. I watched other players and their playing styles and compared them to julias and so on.

Ok, that was quite a long post, sorry for that :)

Vikapower
Aug 16th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Hello all!

I just signed up for this board. I was looking for a place where I can discuss or exchange views about julia görges, since I am a really big fan of her. Especially after the last results I somehow felt a strong urge to communicate to other fans, because this recent rollercoaster ride concerning her matches is really - how to say - "exhausting". Right now I'm still gutted about the yesterday's result, for I really thought she had finally found her game on hardcourt.. :( I have still some hope, though. I always have ;)

You are welcomed Dispeker. :wavey:

In fact there is a welcome section where you could have presented yourself and how you became a fan of Julia etc... :lol: but it's not a problem.

Here is the chat thread where you can speak about everything none related to Julia, you have the US Open series thread where you might want to come and talk about Julia's game and all in the US Open series - and this is where most of us are so have a round there. :cool:

Anyway, maybe I could tell you how I became a fan of her. It started in 2008 when I watched tv and channel hopped through the channels. Suddenly, I was struck by the beauty of a young woman and you can guess who she was ;) It was an interview on the channel NDR which you still can find on the internet, I think. I could barely concentrate on what they talked about, for I was a little bit mesmerized by those stunning turquoise eyes.. Anyway, somewhere at the end of that interview I figured out that she was an upcoming tennis player. From this point on I began to follow her career, which basically meant that I sporadically checked her results ;) So, I confess, at that time I was more a fan of her than of her tennis.
That changed in 2010 when I realized that she has indeed huge potential. I don't have to go into detail here as you all know about her strenghts (big fh, serve, etc.). As she reached the semifinal in parlermo and than finally won her first tournament in gastein, I finally became the huge jule fan that I am still today. From then on, she also got me interested in tennis in general. I watched other players and their playing styles and compared them to julias and so on.

Ok, that was quite a long post, sorry for that :)

Interesting read :lol: but don't worry you are not bizarre, most a stroke by Julia's perfection at first before they realize how great she can play... welcome to the club. :lol:

Hopefully you'll be able to share with us what you learnt on the technical standpoints and all when you compared Julia to the other girls -- she's special. :hatoff:

Banditoo
Aug 16th, 2011, 12:08 PM
You are welcome.
You can talk few thing about yourself, if you want.

Dispeker
Aug 16th, 2011, 12:18 PM
In fact there is a welcome section where you could have presented yourself and how you became a fan of Julia etc... but it's not a problem.

Here is the chat thread where you can speak about everything none related to Julia, you have the US Open series thread where you might want to come and talk about Julia's game and all in the US Open series - and this is where most of us are so have a round there.

Ah, sorry, didn't see that welcome-section ;) I will certainly join the chat thread soon, but right now I have to finish some work ;)

Dispeker
Aug 16th, 2011, 12:19 PM
You are welcome.
You can talk few thing about yourself, if you want.

Thanks! Yep, I will do that soon.

Skoo
Aug 16th, 2011, 12:40 PM
Welcome to Juliaholics Anonymous, Dispeker. I myself joined almost a couple of months ago because I couldn't bear anymore not being able to talk to anyone about my problem. Especially when she was losing. This group has helped me a lot with my addiction and I am really happy to be able to talk about it every time :lol:

Dispeker
Aug 17th, 2011, 06:48 AM
Welcome to Juliaholics Anonymous, Dispeker. I myself joined almost a couple of months ago because I couldn't bear anymore not being able to talk to anyone about my problem. Especially when she was losing. This group has helped me a lot with my addiction and I am really happy to be able to talk about it every time :lol:

hehe, good to hear that others have this problem too. God, how many smilies you can use here :help: :eek: :tape: :weirdo: :bowdown: :hatoff: ok, I stop now. one more though :tennis:

Skoo
Aug 19th, 2011, 11:52 AM
If we make a parallel with real life and tennis maybe we will understand more thing for tennis at large.
Serve - First impression in everywhere. How we start to communicating. How we start to working. How we start to whiting comments or something else. In tennis serve is first chance to attack, but maybe in real life serve is first impression or how you start something?
Winner - Success or maybe progress in something. Advancement in work... Absolutely right thing in one comment. Good way for communicate...
UE - Thing whose you are inflict to yourself. Wrong decision inflicted by wrong reasoning, wrong matching, wrong choice and many other thing. As I saw this problem is human problem not personality problem, because this problem - we can't to be on 100% every second of our life - is from birth... In tennis reasons can will be a movement, balance, mentally problem, injury, wrong choice on hit or many other thing.
FE - This errors are inflicted by other people. Here is very hard to make a parallel.Because in real life you must be do something for to do something to you. In tennis forced errors are inflicted by opponent. She can be play smart or have a great serve or maybe very diffident thing by opponent game to difficulted you. Maybe ball-bashing or pushing or maybe something else...

I think if we develop this parallel we will understand more tennis. Because we are lived more then to watched tennis. This will help our to understand Julia problem better. What do you think? :lol:


Come on, man, you talk like an astrologist, not like an astronomer :) Tennis is a real life event, in which same sort of things happen as in real life. There's no need for a parallel. Don't be mad at me, it is just how I see it :)

Banditoo
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:02 PM
Come on, man, you talk like an astrologist, not like an astronomer :) Tennis is a real life event, in which same sort of things happen as in real life. There's no need for a parallel. Don't be mad at me, it is just how I see it :)

:lol:. Many people don't know what is difficult between Astronomy and Astrology. But you know. :worship:
Mmm, maybe... But parallels always help us. We don't saw 'we understand tennis more them life'. Can you understand me? Yes, tennis is event by real life, but this not hider for parallel. I'm just tried to 'translate' tennis definitions in language who we understand more. :)

Skoo
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:57 PM
:lol:. Many people don't know what is difficult between Astronomy and Astrology. But you know. :worship:
Mmm, maybe... But parallels always help us. We don't saw 'we understand tennis more them life'. Can you understand me? Yes, tennis is event by real life, but this not hider for parallel. I'm just tried to 'translate' tennis definitions in language who we understand more. :)

It's not that hard. Astronomy is science, astrology is baloney :lol:

I think I understand you, but I think we already do that anyway. Of course, not when it comes to stats and technique, those are not present in the rest of the real life :)

Say, do you read books in English?

Banditoo
Aug 19th, 2011, 02:01 PM
Say, do you read books in English?

No, I don't. Now you will say 'read English, this will help you for better English' or something like a this. Agreed. :lol:

Skoo
Aug 19th, 2011, 02:10 PM
No, I don't. Now you will say 'read English, this will help you for better English' or something like a this. Agreed. :lol:

Yep :) And you seem to understand it perfectly so why not? For example, Carl Sagan's books can be a delight for everyone, not to mention a future astronomer. You could also impress Julia :lol:

Specter
Aug 19th, 2011, 03:02 PM
No, I don't. Now you will say 'read English, this will help you for better English' or something like a this. Agreed. :lol:

What I did to improve my English back in the day was watching The Sopranos and Tarantino movies in English without subtitles for a whole summer. It's how I ended up with an American accent. It's also why I curse so much.


True story. :)

Banditoo
Aug 20th, 2011, 12:56 PM
Thank you for advances people. I will start to read more English books and I will watch Desperate Housewives without subtitles. :lol:
Who play Tennis Tipping from here?
And what mean 'IMO'?:unsure:

Skoo
Aug 20th, 2011, 01:40 PM
Thank you for advances people. I will start to read more English books and I will watch Desperate Housewives without subtitles. :lol:
Who play Tennis Tipping from here?
And what mean 'IMO'?:unsure:

:lol: Are you really watching it?

IMO = in my opinion

Banditoo
Aug 20th, 2011, 01:44 PM
:lol: Are you really watching it?

Yesss...One of my favourites series with Grey Anatomy and Sex and City.:lol:

Skoo
Aug 20th, 2011, 05:01 PM
Yesss...One of my favourites series with Grey Anatomy and Sex and City.:lol:

:help: :lol:

Banditoo
Aug 20th, 2011, 05:14 PM
:help: :lol:

Why? :lol:

joy division
Aug 20th, 2011, 05:16 PM
Why? :lol:

:worship:

Skoo
Aug 20th, 2011, 07:51 PM
Banditoo, you're kidding, right? :D

Ayumilover.
Aug 21st, 2011, 06:06 AM
Yesss...One of my favourites series with Grey Anatomy and Sex and City.:lol:

They have that in Bulgaria? :eek: :haha:

i think we are just surprised because mostly women like to watch those shows here.

I love Survivor. Have you heard of it? It's a great reality show

Banditoo
Aug 21st, 2011, 06:26 AM
Yess, I`m kiddig for Sex and City and Desperate Housewives, but I like very much Grey Anatomy. :lol:
We have only 4 Bulgarian survivor as yet. I like and I watched it, but it isn't by my favourites. :)

Specter
Aug 21st, 2011, 10:36 AM
They have that in Bulgaria? :eek: :haha:

Hell yeah, they do.

https://www.ozone.bg/data/products/4640/thumb.jpg

:worship:

In Europe we have everything you have in the US. Especially TV Shows. Some countries are faster to adopt US shows, like Poland is always very quick, other countries like Germany take a more cautious approach and usually wait a couple of seasons to see if the show is successful in the States.

Though I have seen the German version of The Class, which never even had a full season's worth of episodes. :lol:


I love Survivor. Have you heard of it? It's a great reality show

The first German Survivor season was great. :drool: That was like 10 years ago or something though, and it wasn't very successful I think. XD

Skoo
Aug 21st, 2011, 12:20 PM
"The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 2 characters."

I keep getting this message for about two days when I try to preview a comment containing a quote. Does anyone else get it or am I doing something really wrong? :)

Vikapower
Aug 21st, 2011, 12:52 PM
Yesss...One of my favourites series with Grey Anatomy and Sex and City.:lol:

:lol: I really hate Sex and the City, Dr. House, Grey's Anatomy - there are some I forget... :lol: on the other hand Dexter, Desperate Housewives are really awesome.

Specter
Aug 21st, 2011, 01:12 PM
"The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 2 characters."

I keep getting this message for about two days when I try to preview a comment containing a quote. Does anyone else get it or am I doing something really wrong? :)

Have you written anything besides the quote in the post your previewing? Because just a quote alone doesn't count as a message, you'll have to write something else outside of the [QUOTE] tags.

Skoo
Aug 21st, 2011, 01:35 PM
Have you written anything besides the quote in the post your previewing? Because just a quote alone doesn't count as a message, you'll have to write something else outside of the tags.

Yes, that's what it was. I had something else written, but there was still a quote at the end. I was wondering why it worked after all :) Thanks!

Banditoo
Aug 21st, 2011, 01:51 PM
I love a drama! I love Grey's Anatomy. I'm drama queen. :lol: :lol:

Banditoo
Aug 24th, 2011, 09:41 AM
I reading The Lost Symbol by Dan Brown. Good book...

Vikapower
Aug 27th, 2011, 06:25 AM
Anyone taking part in the US Open bracket challenge :lol: my prediction looks like this (http://bracketchallenge.usopen.org/usta/pdf-bracket.php?EVENT=2&x=1314425988) I know I have it wrong, I always get it wrong. :crazy:

Banditoo
Sep 20th, 2011, 07:33 PM
Hello people! I can't write a comment in forum because I start a school. :(

Skoo
Sep 20th, 2011, 10:57 PM
Hello people! I can't write a comment in forum because I start a school. :(

So what? Can't you skip classes to write of TF? :lol:

joy division
Sep 21st, 2011, 06:50 AM
Hello people! I can't write a comment in forum because I start a school. :(

I already became anxious about you, for not posting anymore.
My thoughts were, that your parents could have taken away your computer, after they noticed your sleepy eyes every morning, from the extended sessions on TF.:lol:
Good to have you here again.

Jedi657470
Sep 24th, 2011, 05:20 AM
I reading The Lost Symbol by Dan Brown. Good book...

I read it recently. Enjoy it.

Skoo
Sep 29th, 2011, 06:36 PM
Dude, what actually makes a human being beautiful and watchable ?
It`s not the perfect, stereotype form.
It`s the individual collection of his blemish, and what is under the surface.;)

I'll reply here, because there is already a lot of talk on the pictures thread :)

Well, it seems that beauty is about symmetry and averageness, but also about the differences between sexes (sexual dimorphism; if you want to read more, click here (http://sirl.stanford.edu/~bob/teaching/pdf/arth202/Rhodes_AnnRevPsychol06.pdf)). Those things I mentioned are just some noise to her beauty and she is attractive probably because she has a good symmetry and because she is very feminine. And some other things, like sparkling blue eyes and especially her skin (I say that because a lot of people I asked mentioned that and I also heard some commentators; also, something that caught me eye from the start; she doesn't naturally have a darker complexion, but tan catches better on her). Anyway, definitely not the collection of blemishes :lol:

When we say "under the surface" we actually mean behaviour, which, indeed, can be the sexiest thing about a person and can render the others quite irrelevant (within certain limits I suppose). That is why I asked people who don't watch tennis. There was the possibility that we like her because of tennis. My mother thinks Franny is beautiful (maybe more beautiful than Julia) and Agassi married Steffi :lol:


Julia is not a classic beauty who would be obvious to everyone.

As I said, the people I asked consider her to be attractive, ranging from pretty to very beautiful. They were only about ten though. I need to ask more and I'll try to do that. But, from these "preliminary results", it seems she is attractive to everyone :)

joy division
Sep 29th, 2011, 07:58 PM
I'll reply here, because there is already a lot of talk on the pictures thread :)

Well, it seems that beauty is about symmetry and averageness, but also about the differences between sexes (sexual dimorphism; if you want to read more, click here (http://sirl.stanford.edu/~bob/teaching/pdf/arth202/Rhodes_AnnRevPsychol06.pdf)). Those things I mentioned are just some noise to her beauty and she is attractive probably because she has a good symmetry and because she is very feminine. And some other things, like sparkling blue eyes and especially her skin (I say that because a lot of people I asked mentioned that and I also heard some commentators; also, something that caught me eye from the start; she doesn't naturally have a darker complexion, but tan catches better on her). Anyway, definitely not the collection of blemishes :lol:

When we say "under the surface" we actually mean behaviour, which, indeed, can be the sexiest thing about a person and can render the others quite irrelevant (within certain limits I suppose). That is why I asked people who don't watch tennis. There was the possibility that we like her because of tennis. My mother thinks Franny is beautiful (maybe more beautiful than Julia) and Agassi married Steffi :lol:




As I said, the people I asked consider her to be attractive, ranging from pretty to very beautiful. They were only about ten though. I need to ask more and I'll try to do that. But, from these "preliminary results", it seems she is attractive to everyone :)

I think at Dispekers marvelous late night show on the picture thread you just favored most, where she smiles all over the face. What makes her beautiful there, definitely comes from " under the surface".
We have to clear the expression "beauty", to avoid misunderstandings. Hard to do in some words.:rolleyes:
Human beauty is basically connected with motion, and emotion.
Imo, Forms and symetrics are aesthetic, physical attributes, but are only a part of the substance in the "beauty question".

Skoo
Sep 29th, 2011, 08:19 PM
I think at Dispekers marvelous late night show on the picture thread you just favored most, where she smiles all over the face. What makes her beautiful there, definitely comes from " under the surface".
We have to clear the expression "beauty", to avoid misunderstandings. Hard to do in some words.:rolleyes:
Human beauty is basically connected with motion, and emotion.
Imo, Forms and symetrics are aesthetic, physical attributes, but are only a part of the substance in the "beauty question".

Why should it come from the inside? It is just a smile that produces an attractive shape. Of course, it comes from under the surface, i.e. from the neurons that activate the muscles :)

Yes, beauty is connected to motion, that's why everybody looks different in different contexts, but there are scientific experiments that try to get to the fundamentals of attractiveness. And those are the things I mentioned.

The first things that you notice are the physical attributes. After that, you tend to make inferences about personality traits based on face expression and the perceived attractiveness changes once you get to know the person. So maybe the best word is attractiveness, not beauty. What I wanted to know is if she's attractive, on a first sight, to people who don't know anything about her and it seems she is. Did I manage to make things clearer now? :)

Say, is it a good idea to make an "how attractive is Julia" thread? :lol:

Ayumilover.
Sep 29th, 2011, 09:22 PM
Say, is it a good idea to make an "how attractive is Julia" thread? :lol:

On GM, that could attract haters. But on here, i'd guess hse's end up with a 12 out of 10 :drool: :hearts:

Skoo
Sep 29th, 2011, 09:28 PM
On GM, that could attract haters. But on here, i'd guess hse's end up with a 12 out of 10 :drool: :hearts:

I wasn't thinking about just rating her :lol: Maybe a poll with the question whether she's the most attractive player :) But for further discussions. Should I? :)

Ayumilover.
Sep 29th, 2011, 09:46 PM
I wasn't thinking about just rating her :lol: Maybe a poll with the question whether she's the most attractive player :) But for further discussions. Should I? :)

it's up to you but if you do, you can count on me being one of the first to rave about her :kiss:

Skoo
Sep 30th, 2011, 10:46 AM
it's up to you but if you do, you can count on me being one of the first to rave about her :kiss:

Neah, after a good night's sleep, it doesn't seem like a good idea anymore :lol: Plus, we can get an idea from your GM thread :)

tennisfish33
Oct 1st, 2011, 09:23 AM
Hey guys!
I'm new in this forum! Just wanna introduce myself! I follow your posts since a couple of month to stay updated about Julia! Now I wanna join in myself. I'm a huge fan of Julia (Gools), Petko, Sabine and Ana Ivanovic.
Great to see that especially Julia has so many fans here! I met her once and she is such a nice girl!
I just bought the german magazine SPORTSFREUND. They have a huge interview with Julia! Really nice one! It's just in german, but I try to translate it and post it here!

joy division
Oct 1st, 2011, 09:28 AM
Hey guys!
I'm new in this forum! Just wanna introduce myself! I follow your posts since a couple of month to stay updated about Julia! Now I wanna join in myself. I'm a huge fan of Julia (Gools), Petko, Sabine and Ana Ivanovic.
Great to see that especially Julia has so many fans here! I met her once and she is such a nice girl!
I just bought the german magazine SPORTSFREUND. They have a huge interview with Julia! Really nice one! It's just in german, but I try to translate it and post it here!

A very good way to introduce yourself !!!
Great, to have you with us !:wavey:

Skoo
Oct 1st, 2011, 09:35 AM
^^ What JD said :)

joy division
Oct 1st, 2011, 03:17 PM
Tennisfish, you said you met Julia once.
On what occasion was that? You are free to tell us a little bit.

LinusVanPelt
Oct 2nd, 2011, 03:51 PM
tennisfish we are waiting!:):)

Vikapower
Oct 2nd, 2011, 09:35 PM
Well, it seems that beauty is about symmetry and averageness, but also about the differences between sexes (sexual dimorphism; if you want to read more, click here (http://sirl.stanford.edu/~bob/teaching/pdf/arth202/Rhodes_AnnRevPsychol06.pdf)). Those things I mentioned are just some noise to her beauty and she is attractive probably because she has a good symmetry and because she is very feminine. And some other things, like sparkling blue eyes and especially her skin (I say that because a lot of people I asked mentioned that and I also heard some commentators; also, something that caught me eye from the start; she doesn't naturally have a darker complexion, but tan catches better on her). Anyway, definitely not the collection of blemishes :lol

It's weird that you speak about symmetry... this is a very greek-like concept... in the greek conception of architecture... they had that pathology for symmetry - one side had to be as perfect as the other because according to their thoughts, it was pleasing to eye, it was beautiful so they would search for this quest of absolute symmetry to content themselves...

http://www.hotelsorbonne.com/pics/big/Churchmadeleine.jpg

This above is typical of a greek architecture from the doric order VIth. before J.C. (Don't ask me the name of the monument I just googled it quickly to show :rolls:) - another Greek architectural example in the modern doric order is the Lincoln memorial in Washington...

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So Julia is symmetric as these ? :oh: Just teasing... :spit:

:lol: I mean what makes Julia beautiful is very difficult to define, symmetry but can a face be symmetrically perfect ? If yes then how do you exclude these infinite little details that we do not see with the eye from the concept of symmetry ? How is it defined that symmetry is a crowd pleaser ? :lol:

I think to state beauty is about symmetry is really far catched because in the fashion industry for example dissymmetrical faces are often what you'll see and will be having greater success in the high fashion than and all the Julia-like faces soft, tender, poetic, well defined would be relegated to the second league of commercial modeling... because they are crowd pleaser.

It's weird but if nonetheless I asked what is a crowd pleasing woman and how it is defined that she is crowd pleasing everyone would be answering the same thing (a girl who doesn't have disproportions, tall, slim etc...) but if I asked them where does this come from, I'm sure they would go blank.

IDK maybe I'm weird but I also can find beauty into a dissymmetrical face too whereas many many wouldn't or at least very few...

Over the past years in history, many great minds confronted themselves to defining beauty Leibniz, Crousaz, St. Augustin, Wolff etc... and even Diderot but few brought reasonable answers [...] Leibniz for example would say that beauty is perfection but would be unable to define the word perfection...

Wolff would define things we liked a beautiful and things we disliked as ugly - saying that things that are beautiful have such a perfection that it generates certain type of pleasure that would have us like it but he only seems to be defining the cognitive side of beauty or the perceptive side not the intrinsic reason of why we find things beautiful...

So finally, what is beauty ? :devil: St. Augustin stated that beauty is a concept in which you need to find variety, order, proportions and regularity nice but if an object doesn't dispose of variety what is it ugly ? In much as things can not be one and perfect thus have all these characteristics then is everything ugly on earth ?

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Just like how you sectarized beauty with St. Augustin saying that it is about symmetry and averageness so what about girls who do not have these characteristics ? How are they placed on the ladder of beauty ? :devil:

Skoo
Oct 2nd, 2011, 11:20 PM
:lol: I mean what makes Julia beautiful is very difficult to define, symmetry but can a face be symmetrically perfect ? If yes then how do you exclude these infinite little details that we do not see with the eye from the concept of symmetry ? How is it defined that symmetry is a crowd pleaser ? :lol:

I think to state beauty is about symmetry is really far catched because in the fashion industry for example dissymmetrical faces are often what you'll see and will be having greater success in the high fashion than and all the Julia-like faces soft, tender, poetic, well defined would be relegated to the second league of commercial modeling... because they are crowd pleaser.

Johnny, it is not me that speaks about symmetry, but science, that is, tested hypotheses over the last about three decades.

No, a face cannot be symmetrically perfect (we can make computer simulations though), but the more symmetric, the more attractive. Maybe there are some models with pronounced facial asymmetry, but it doesn't matter, because in the industry they focus more on the rest of the body. However, if you look at Victoria's Secret's models, their faces have a really good symmetry. So do attractive actresses, like Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron, etc. Below you have a good comparison.

http://wallcrow.com/images/S/Steffi%20Graf%20Or%20Stefanie%20Maria%20Graf/Steffi%20Graf%20Or%20Stefanie%20Maria%20Graf-0093.jpg http://www.dlcache.indiatimes.com/imageserve/0cRs0iKfJc9ep/x350.jpg

And another one:

http://im.in.com/connect/images/profile/b_profile4/Svetlana_Kuznetsova_300.jpg http://en.anaivanovic.eu/images/news/Ana-Ivanovic-sonriente-por-su-triunfo.jpg

If you were to measure the horizontal lenght of their faces and calculate the middle horizontal point, you would see that, for Steffi and Sveta, there would be "more of the face" on one side compared to the other, the right side, as viewed from here, being larger. Julia probably has the most symmetric face, with some advantage over Ana. Then you can look at the symmetry of the mouth, nose and eyes placement, the width/height ratio and the distance between the eyes. There is no wonder Julia is so attractive :)

But symmetry is only part of the story. There's also averageness involved (and you need computer simulation for that and it can be counterintuitive at first). You can't say much about that just by looking faces. Your brain is programmed to rapidly compute that (and symmetry) and give the verdict. Probably Julia's and Ana's are more closer to average.

Then you have sexual dimorphism. Overall, Julia and Ana look more feminine than Steffi and Sveta, with smaller chins and lower face areas. Steffi and Sveta also have feminine traits, like pretty full lips (Franny would an example of good symmetry, but masculine traits which make her not really attractive).

There are also other things, but a very important trait is the dark complexion Julia and Ana have compared to the other two, especially Steffi. It is really something that hits you in the eye -- smooth, tanned skin.

As JD pointed out, attractiveness is also related to motion and emotion. Julia and Ana look pretty good also in different perspective and with different emotions. I think Julia is most beautiful when tired and serious, since she looked so amazing in Madrid. Also, Ana looks better with makeup, while Julia doesn't. And we can go and on :)

There is no wonder the Greeks were obssesed with perfect shapes. It's what turned them on :lol:


IDK maybe I'm weird but I also can find beauty into a dissymmetrical face too whereas many many wouldn't or at least very few...

Not weird. Despite the fact that she is not very pretty, Steffi is liked by many more people than Julia. Agassi, quite a pretty guy, even married her. Behavior can often be the sexiest thing about a person or his/her "soul" (i.e., personality traits). Attitude also matters a lot, a sexy attitude, for example, being... sexier :lol: Other people might be attracted by "nerdiness", dominance, shyness etc.

I asked those people (friends) to rate Julia to see if she's attractive on the first sight, without the effect of behavior. And she is. Actually, I, for one, first saw her, thought what a babe, and only after that watched her play and got mesmerized by her tennis too. So I should have known she is objectively attractive.

As for the philosophers, again, forget them :lol: They may have hit the nail in the head here and there, but now we have science, we don't need opinions. We are primates and, like every other living creature, everything that we are and do serves the purposes of survival and reproduction. We like symmetry, averageness, smooth skin etc. because they signal "good genes" in a potential mate. The opposite traits are associated with poor health and other bad stuff. So we would like our offspring to inherit the better genes. I want Julia, not Steffi :lol: Agassi wanted Steffi basically because she was GOAT. That also signals very good genes, but not through mere physical aspect, but through athleticism, endurance and good cognitive skills (i.e., quality brain).

Of course, if I didn't make myself clear, you can always read that article. I think it's easy to understand if you're not accustomed to the terminology.

Vikapower
Oct 3rd, 2011, 02:40 AM
First I would like to share a program with you called anaface here (http://www.anaface.com/), it could interest you. :lol:

On the symmetrical part though I was just teasing a bit :devil: but I think there's a differentiation to make... in high fashion though, the castors watch both the face and body as one there's not a total difference made between the 2... because models who do high fashion are sometimes also brought to make editorials, advertisements, magazine covers... that's why the face is very important...

In modeling you have the commercial section (Victoria's secret etc...), the high fashion or prêt-à-porter and the couture, haute couture - each section requires some specific attributes that you might not find in another - a commercial model would never be able to do couture and certainly vice-versa...

Here's a crop of girls from the high fashion in opposition to the Victoria's secret models... there's a flagrant difference between both group of girls I posted let's see if you find it... :lol:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6059/5899316790_00482b186f_m.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6158/6198877243_3d0029ef7c_m.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2264/5747979375_86e84b0a98_m.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2636/5734794202_2a71290dec_m.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2781/5737791853_436bf4b21d_m.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5307/5747911785_57e7db32cf_m.jpg

Victoria's secret...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6160/6206087498_62ba4b0cb4_m.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6152/6205575987_b4a51d1881_m.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6169/6205587855_53f95c7da9_m.jpg

Then you can look at the symmetry of the mouth, nose and eyes placement, the width/height ratio and the distance between the eyes. There is no wonder Julia is so attractive. :)

Ok, so coming from this, how would you judge the features of Magdalena Frackowiak 5th picture starting from the first in the high fashion models ?

We like symmetry, averageness, smooth skin etc. because they signal "good genes" in a potential mate. The opposite traits are associated with poor health and other bad stuff. So we would like our offspring to inherit the better genes.

Well you see this is why I asked these questions, see below... :lol: we gotta admit though that the society have really automated certain things into a good crop of people nowadays...

I mean this is the thing, beauty is sectarized by subjectivity and projected on other people as "we" and every thing that does not fall into that pre-fabricated thing is rejected... yet, there are guys who do not fall into that mold and fall in love with girls who are far from being "signals of good genes"... take a guy who profoundly falls in love with a handicapped girl...

What did he understand that we didn't yet he's guy like us ? Was he able to understand better than any other that a woman whatever the envelop she carries is still (or still can be a carrier of good genes) ? Is he more clairvoyant than another fellow dude ?

It's funny that you say we are primates (which is fact) yet one of our intrinsic and inherent characteristic is to be able to think and the way you said that was like we are like the Bonobo's or Pan Paniscus who can not control our envies and need to sex for whatever need we want ---> this is what the Bonobo's do when they want something in their society. :devil:

It's weird but if nonetheless I asked what is a crowd pleasing woman and how it is defined that she is crowd pleasing everyone would be answering the same thing (a girl who doesn't have disproportions, tall, slim etc...) [...]

[...] beauty is a concept in which you need to find variety, order, proportions and regularity nice but if an object doesn't dispose of variety what is it ugly ? In much as things can not be one and perfect thus have all these characteristics then is everything ugly on earth ?

Skoo
Oct 3rd, 2011, 09:23 AM
First I would like to share a program with you called anaface here (http://www.anaface.com/), it could interest you. :lol:

Nice one, thanks! I put Julia's face in there and I got pretty good results and, as I thought, almost perfect horizontal symmetry. Nose a little too big, yes, but the funniest part was that her nose it too big relative to her years :happy: That's, of course, because I set the ear points too close. They were under her hair :)


On the symmetrical part though I was just teasing a bit :devil: but I think there's a differentiation to make... in high fashion though, the castors watch both the face and body as one there's not a total difference made between the 2... because models who do high fashion are sometimes also brought to make editorials, advertisements, magazine covers... that's why the face is very important...

In modeling you have the commercial section (Victoria's secret etc...), the high fashion or prêt-à-porter and the couture, haute couture - each section requires some specific attributes that you might not find in another - a commercial model would never be able to do couture and certainly vice-versa...

I see. I didn't know that, I only heard here and there that it's not necessarily about the face.

As for those pictures, none of them seems to have bad symmetry. There are some things that make some of them prettier than others. Magdalena Frackowiak seems to have the most pronounced assymetry from that picture, but I looked at other pictures and she is also has good symmetry :shrug: What was your point? :)

I think I answered to your other questions. In the end, yes, what you find attractive will be subjective. But by isolating them in experiments, researchers found these objective traits that people find attractive regardless of gender, culture, experience and other subjective factors.

And the guy that falls for the handicapped girl finds her attractive for her behavior, attitude, personality traits or maybe other things we don't know. Don't you think Agassi could have another (actuall many other) more good looking woman? :) Stephen Hawking had also had two wives and three children! Picasso, a short and unattractive man, had two wives, four children and a lot of mistresses. The list can go on. Smart is sexy :)


It's funny that you say we are primates (which is fact) yet one of our intrinsic and inherent characteristic is to be able to think and the way you said that was like we are like the Bonobo's or Pan Paniscus who can not control our envies and need to sex for whatever need we want ---> this is what the Bonobo's do when they want something in their society. :devil:

If we are prmates, it doesn't mean that we can't have better self-control. Anyway, it must have not been so developed in our ancestors, because the whole idea with self-control is to delay a reward because attaining to it right now would be actually less rewarding than later or it would have very bad side effects. If you meet Julia, you would want to at least try to kiss her. However, she won't approve and you might even get punished by security. It definitely won't get you into her tennis skirt :lol: But, if you manage to talk to her, get to know eachother, and show her what a great man you are (courtship), that might do the trick. If our cousin primates can increase their reproductive succes by rape or other forceful means, of course they won't want to have anything to do with self-control :) Nevertheless, in controlled setting, they can show better self-control too.

The differences are there, of course, and they are based both on genes (bigger frontal lobe, for example) and environment (education, culture). The points is that, whatever an organism does, the purpose (by no means a conscious one) is to live and carry its genes to the next generation.

Dispeker
Oct 3rd, 2011, 09:39 AM
Stop it Vikapower and Skoo, your scientific discourse turns me on somehow.

Skoo
Oct 3rd, 2011, 09:46 AM
Stop it Vikapower and Skoo, your scientific discourse turns me on somehow.

Of course it does. It makes you imagine things related to Julia :lol: Why should we stop? :shrug: Haha, Vikapower also asked you to stop with the pictures :lol:

Dispeker
Oct 3rd, 2011, 10:47 AM
Haha, Vikapower also asked you to stop with the pictures :lol:

For the same reasons, I guess :lol:

Skoo
Oct 3rd, 2011, 11:05 AM
For the same reasons, I guess :lol:

Yes, but I suppose neither of you meant it :)

Vikapower
Oct 3rd, 2011, 11:31 AM
Nice one, thanks! I put Julia's face in there and I got pretty good results and, as I thought, almost perfect horizontal symmetry. Nose a little too big, yes, but the funniest part was that her nose it too big relative to her years :happy: That's, of course, because I set the ear points too close. They were under her hair :)

Well I hope you put the best picture possible to have the most accurate result :lol: at least this program is based on mathematical measures and is supposed to be objective any ways more than we are. :lol:

As for those pictures, none of them seems to have bad symmetry. There are some things that make some of them prettier than others. Magdalena Frackowiak seems to have the most pronounced assymetry from that picture, but I looked at other pictures and she is also has good symmetry :shrug: What was your point? :)

You said that Julia had perfect symmetry, I just wanted to know your thoughts on Magda who from my point of view has the most well proportioned and symmetrical face I've ever seen on a girl...

You could trace a line in the middle of her face and still knowing that nothing can not be totally one you'd still have the impression that both sides a totally similar... it's scary... this is greek architecture. :lol:

I think I answered to your other questions. In the end, yes, what you find attractive will be subjective. But by isolating them in experiments, researchers found these objective traits that people find attractive regardless of gender, culture, experience and other subjective factors.

And the guy that falls for the handicapped girl finds her attractive for her behavior, attitude, personality traits or maybe other things we don't know. Don't you think Agassi could have another (actuall many other) more good looking woman? :) Stephen Hawking had also had two wives and three children! Picasso, a short and unattractive man, had two wives, four children and a lot of mistresses. The list can go on. Smart is sexy :)

Or he could be simply be finding attractiveness in her, physical that is - for a guy to fall for a physically challenged lady at the extent of making children with at their own risks must be something non spiritual that attracts him to her...

Researches make experiments on a small group of people to come up with theories, no problem - we're only just 6 billion on earth... it always makes me cringe when in france researches come to say "Les français préfèrent..." - uhm, I'm french and I don't specifically fall in the mold. :lol:


If we are prmates, it doesn't mean that we can't have better self-control. Anyway, it must have not been so developed in our ancestors, because the whole idea with self-control is to delay a reward because attaining to it right now would be actually less rewarding than later or it would have very bad side effects. If you meet Julia, you would want to at least try to kiss her. However, she won't approve and you might even get punished by security. It definitely won't get you into her tennis skirt :lol: But, if you manage to talk to her, get to know eachother, and show her what a great man you are (courtship), that might do the trick. If our cousin primates can increase their reproductive succes by rape or other forceful means, of course they won't want to have anything to do with self-control :) Nevertheless, in controlled setting, they can show better self-control too.

That's funny... :lol: Anyways the Bonobo's do not rape, in fact their micro-society, it's just like an exchange of money - you want a banana, then you get sex for payment and vice-versa, it's perfectly sane in the sense that both parties approve the proceedings (approve is a meh word because eventually monkeys don't think :lol:).

Skoo
Oct 3rd, 2011, 11:54 AM
Well I hope you put the best picture possible to have the most accurate result :lol: at least this program is based on mathematical measures and is supposed to be objective any ways more than we are. :lol:

I put this one (http://www.julia-goerges.com/uploads/tx_cfamooflow/julia_goerges_fotoshooting_melbourne_9.jpg). It was not the most accurate result, but you can clearly see the symmetry anyway and the program confirmed it :)



You said that Julia had perfect symmetry, I just wanted to know your thoughts on Magda who from my point of view has the most well proportioned and symmetrical face I've ever seen on a girl...

You could trace a line in the middle of her face and still knowing that nothing can not be totally one you'd still have the impression that both sides a totally similar... it's scary... this is greek architecture. :lol:

:lol: Yes, she seems to have perfect symmetry. But I would still choose Julia :cuckoo:


Or he could be simply be finding attractiveness in her, physical that is - for a guy to fall for a physically challenged lady at the extent of making children with at their own risks must be something non spiritual that attracts him to her...

Well, yes, maybe it can still be physical. It matters where the hadicap is located. I wouldn't mind Julia in a wheelchair :shrug: :lol:


Researches make experiments on a small group of people to come up with theories, no problem - we're only just 6 billion on earth... it always makes me cringe when in france researches come to say "Les français préfèrent..." - uhm, I'm french and I don't specifically fall in the mold. :lol:

The groups may be small, but the results have been replicated time and time again and they are very powerful, sometimes very close to 100%. Also, manipulating the variables and getting the expected results is pretty good evidence. If you turn an asymmetrical face into a symmetrical one with a computer program and people start liking it more (or if you make faces more average, or if you emphasize gender-specific traits), what is the logical conclusion? :) You may not fall into a certain category when you hear the results of a study, but it is pretty impossible not to like symmetry, averageness and sexual dimorphism.


That's funny... :lol: Anyways the Bonobo's do not rape, in fact their micro-society, it's just like an exchange of money - you want a banana, then you get sex for payment and vice-versa, it's perfectly sane in the sense that both parties approve the proceedings (approve is a meh word because eventually monkeys don't think :lol:).

They don't? Good for them then. Actually, I have no idea what they do, but rape is very predominant in other species (not that it is quite rare in ours). Well, in a way we don't think either, but things get too complicated here :) You could say that they don't think verbally.

BTW, Ana and Sveta are playing now :oh:

Vikapower
Oct 3rd, 2011, 12:06 PM
I put this one (http://www.julia-goerges.com/uploads/tx_cfamooflow/julia_goerges_fotoshooting_melbourne_9.jpg). It was not the most accurate result, but you can clearly see the symmetry anyway and the program confirmed it :)

How did you get the left ear... that picture IMO is quite inaccurate if you can find a picture like this your results will be much more precise. :yeah:

http://www.fivb.org/visasp/Img_GetImage.aspx?No=201109690

:lol: Yes, she seems to have perfect symmetry. But I would still choose Julia :cuckoo:

:lol: Magda is just perfect every times I watch her I just can't stop telling myself that - her face is just exquisite... but don't worry for Julia... :cool:

You may not fall into a certain category when you hear the results of a study, but it is pretty impossible not to like symmetry, averageness and sexual dimorphism.

I don't specifically know what you mean by averageness but there are certain category of girls like Camilla Belle guys do fall a lot for... some other girls that come into head, Dita Von Teese, there's also that russian ex-miss world Ksenia Sukhinova etc...

BTW, Ana and Sveta are playing now :oh:

Yes :lol:

Skoo
Oct 3rd, 2011, 12:14 PM
How did you get the left ear... that picture IMO is quite inaccurate if you can find a picture like this your results will be much more precise. :yeah:

Well, I told you the program said that the nose is the bigger one :lol: Nevermind it, it is obvious that her ears are bigger and there's not a very good ears/nose ratio there :)


I don't specifically know what you mean by averageness but there are certain category of girls like Camilla Belle guys do fall a lot for... some other girls that come into head, Dita Von Teese, there's also that russian ex-miss world Ksenia Sukhinova etc...

Well, I don't actually know either :lol: It is more of a mathematical trait, made by averaging a lot of face dimensions. See the PDF, page 203.

LinusVanPelt
Oct 9th, 2011, 04:06 PM
Hey guys!
I'm new in this forum! Just wanna introduce myself! I follow your posts since a couple of month to stay updated about Julia! Now I wanna join in myself. I'm a huge fan of Julia (Gools), Petko, Sabine and Ana Ivanovic.
Great to see that especially Julia has so many fans here! I met her once and she is such a nice girl!
I just bought the german magazine SPORTSFREUND. They have a huge interview with Julia! Really nice one! It's just in german, but I try to translate it and post it here!

we (görges fans who dont know german) are waiting for the interview! :)

Dispeker
Oct 9th, 2011, 06:20 PM
we (görges fans who dont know german) are waiting for the interview! :)

the görges fans who know german are waiting for it as well! ;)

LinusVanPelt
Oct 9th, 2011, 06:26 PM
the görges fans who know german are waiting for it as well! ;)

i mean you can buy the magazine and read it. but we? we have to wait but you,my german friend,have a choice.. and i cant even found the article in the internet even if i do, i cant understand it not more than google translate :D

Dispeker
Oct 10th, 2011, 08:09 AM
i mean you can buy the magazine and read it. but we? we have to wait but you,my german friend,have a choice.. and i cant even found the article in the internet even if i do, i cant understand it not more than google translate :D

I don't have a choice either, for I'm way too cheap to buy it ;)

Banditoo
Oct 18th, 2011, 03:51 PM
Hello people! Do you like to listen a music? I love it sooo much. Now I listening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQyGYdRqulQ from 3 days. :lol:

Skoo
Oct 18th, 2011, 04:13 PM
Hello people! Do you like to listen a music? I love it sooo much. Now I listening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQyGYdRqulQ from 3 days. :lol:

Hey, that is actually one of the few "commercial" songs I tend to like :) But this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0sDAdyMtnk) or this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8BRbM52gpc) are my type in general :) (and Anne-Sophie Mutter is another talented and beautiful German, but much more consistent :D)

Vikapower
Oct 18th, 2011, 04:36 PM
Oh boy, nothing against you Banditoo but once I opened the video and saw Guetta... :facepalm: I'm exhausted with the dude and exhausted with the eletro-pop music we've been having the radio's now for like the last million years it seems now...

The music of the 2000's were SO much more better until 2007-2008.

Personally my favorite artists are girls like Anya Marina, Lykke Li etc... there's even that guy I absolutely adore and signs something Micheal Jackson like in Sweden...

Am I weird because I love listening to this music too : The Shanghai Restoration Project - "Introduction (1936)" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57F79MYXD9o&list=FL9FUH91rCMe2FYCxdAA1aNw&index=26)... :unsure: - there's also that weird video clip : Robert - Personne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT3-cMb9fmE&feature=autoplay&list=FL9FUH91rCMe2FYCxdAA1aNw&playnext=1). :haha:

Otherwise I love listening to Chopin piano masterpieces... I think I listen to everything unless this soapy electro-pop (Black eyed peas, Guetta etc...)

Banditoo
Oct 18th, 2011, 04:41 PM
Ooo I like Kykke Li, too. :)
One Love is very good song and Guetta can't spoil the song. :)

Banditoo
Oct 18th, 2011, 04:42 PM
Fist song who you post is soooo good. :)
Maube you will like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNQ1lbkGaWI :unsure:

Skoo
Oct 18th, 2011, 04:44 PM
Otherwise I love listening to Chopin piano masterpieces...

I listened the Funeral March a few times after Julia's losses :lol:

Dispeker
Oct 18th, 2011, 04:54 PM
Well, I'm more into this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxTWe2Jy6jM&feature=related) kind of music :wavey: Gets me in the right mood before Julia's matches :)

Skoo
Oct 18th, 2011, 05:00 PM
Well, I'm more into this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxTWe2Jy6jM&feature=related) kind of music :wavey: Gets me in the right mood before Julia's matches :)

I'm not much into punk (or death/doom/black for that matter), but I feel you :)

Vikapower
Oct 18th, 2011, 05:09 PM
I listened the Funeral March a few times after Julia's losses :lol:

:lol: Ok, nice, well I more prefer the ballads, Nocturnes, Etudes... which is your favorite piece ?

I think these 2 would go for Julia so well #2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrucaRGTY_w) and #3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57VIeXVUgmw&feature=related) - she's so romantic. :awww:

#4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57VIeXVUgmw&feature=related) for when she becomes all feisty, angry... so calm and then suddenly the explosion. :hearts: That's Julia. :lol:

Vikapower
Oct 18th, 2011, 05:09 PM
I'm not much into punk (or death/doom/black for that matter), but I feel you :)

Me too. :lol:

Fist song who you post is soooo good. :)
Maube you will like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNQ1lbkGaWI :unsure:

Yes that's pretty much a good music but still in the electro-pop + autotune/finetune voice or whatever they call that the artists use nowadays but this one's quite cool...

LinusVanPelt
Oct 18th, 2011, 05:31 PM
wow am i the only rocker here?!i dont like electronic music-usually the new stuff actually pop-rock-r&b dont matter these days they all suck- to me a song should have good and meaningful lyric and nice vocals.but electro music doesnt have these qualities.to me of course :)

LinusVanPelt
Oct 18th, 2011, 05:33 PM
i listen every kind of music actually but this new things..they are just meaningless.

Vikapower
Oct 18th, 2011, 05:36 PM
^^ Yeah, that's what I said too, the music of the 2000's circa 2008-9 made so much more sense in terms of music, words etc... now it's just a circus of electro-pop and it's boring... actually I like pop music but since the DJ's has taken over not so much anymore...

HowardH
Oct 18th, 2011, 05:36 PM
Music has always been a big part of my life. I listen to all kinds of music. From pop to rock to classical.

I'm quite partial to listening to Hayley Westenra now and then, who is a New Zealander now living in England (her family is of Dutch and Irish origin).

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A Chinese song

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The last one is a Maori love song. She is performing in Japan though, hence the Japanese subtitles.

She sometimes takes part in a group called Celtic Women
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I also enjoy Sarah Brightman's unique sound. Of course everyone knows "Time to say goodbye".:
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I have loved Beethoven's piano sonatas for a long time. For instance, the Waldstein as perform by Barenboim:
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I also like a lot of Chopin's Nocturnes and Etudes. Bach sometimes too. For instance, the Goldberg Variations, here performed by the eccentric Glenn Gould, who likes to hum as he plays. This is just the Aria and the first 6 variations. There are 30 variations and the Aria is played a the beginning and at the end- but by the end it sounds like a different song because of what has come before it.
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And for fun I like to listen to groups like the Gardiner sisters:
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They sing some bits from Korean songs here too.

Those a cappella groups are also quite a lot of fun as well. They use no instruments and make all the sounds with their voices. You have to be in the mood to put up with audiences laughing and finding it funny a lot though, since a lot of them are college groups in the US who use a lot of humour. Sometimes there are songs whose original version I don't especially like that are really fun to listen to when covered by an a cappella group. Sometimes a cappella groups take a few seconds at the beginning of the song to get into the rhythm but many are really good once they get into the swing of the song.

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And for fun, one of an cappella group away from the performing stage. I kind of wish they had more of these kinds of groups where I am in Auckland. Auckland University doesn't seem to have one.:

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Skoo
Oct 18th, 2011, 06:46 PM
:lol: Ok, nice, well I more prefer the ballads, Nocturnes, Etudes... which is your favorite piece ?

I think these 2 would go for Julia so well #2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrucaRGTY_w) and #3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57VIeXVUgmw&feature=related) - she's so romantic. :awww:

#4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57VIeXVUgmw&feature=related) for when she becomes all feisty, angry... so calm and then suddenly the explosion. :hearts: That's Julia. :lol:

Hmm, IDK, maybe the March Funebre itself. Or perhaps the Piano Concertos (especially the second). Really hard to say. As it is with about all romantic symphonic music :shrug:

Haha, true about Julia's change and indeed that movement is right for her :) And the Heroic Polonaise for a full quality match :lol: Or maybe Beethoven's Eroica :) And, of course, the ode of joy for us now :bounce:

wow am i the only rocker here?!

I listen a lot of heavy and symphonic metal too :)

LinusVanPelt
Oct 18th, 2011, 06:59 PM
I listen a lot of heavy and symphonic metal too :)

which bands or singers do you listen? i dont listen symphonic metal too much but heavy metal :rocker:

Skoo
Oct 18th, 2011, 07:04 PM
which bands or singers do you listen? i dont listen symphonic metal too much but heavy metal :rocker:

Metallica, Iron Maiden, Flowing Tears, Paradise Lost, Epica, Nightwish, Therion, etc. :) I avoid the black/doom/death cacophony (Oomph, Burzum, Nile, Graveworm, etc.) :lol:

Vikapower
Oct 18th, 2011, 07:08 PM
Music has always been a big part of my life. I listen to all kinds of music. From pop to rock to classical.

I'm quite partial to listening to Hayley Westenra now and then, who is a New Zealander now living in England (her family is of Dutch and Irish origin).

A Chinese song

The last one is a Maori love song. She is performing in Japan though, hence the Japanese subtitles.

She sometimes takes part in a group called Celtic Women

I also enjoy Sarah Brightman's unique sound. Of course everyone knows "Time to say goodbye".:

I have loved Beethoven's piano sonatas for a long time. For instance, the Waldstein as perform by Barenboim:

I also like a lot of Chopin's Nocturnes and Etudes. Bach sometimes too. For instance, the Goldberg Variations, here performed by the eccentric Glenn Gould, who likes to hum as he plays. This is just the Aria and the first 6 variations. There are 30 variations and the Aria is played a the beginning and at the end- but by the end it sounds like a different song because of what has come before it.

And for fun I like to listen to groups like the Gardiner sisters:


They sing some bits from Korean songs here too.

Those a cappella groups are also quite a lot of fun as well. They use no instruments and make all the sounds with their voices. You have to be in the mood to put up with audiences laughing and finding it funny a lot though, since a lot of them are college groups in the US who use a lot of humour. Sometimes there are songs whose original version I don't especially like that are really fun to listen to when covered by an a cappella group. Sometimes a cappella groups take a few seconds at the beginning of the song to get into the rhythm but many are really good once they get into the swing of the song.

And for fun, one of an cappella group away from the performing stage. I kind of wish they had more of these kinds of groups where I am in Auckland. Auckland University doesn't seem to have one.:

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Good music Howard overall - sorry I took out the Youtube vids for better flow - do you have a closer feeling to Opera and music with voice ? :lol: Seems like it...

No one cited Debussy, Claire de Lune (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNoSB1E7tYE) - this is an ABSOLUTE genius of a masterpiece. :worship:

Vikapower
Oct 18th, 2011, 07:13 PM
Hmm, IDK, maybe the March Funebre itself. Or perhaps the Piano Concertos (especially the second). Really hard to say. As it is with about all romantic symphonic music :shrug:

Haha, true about Julia's change and indeed that movement is right for her :) And the Heroic Polonaise for a full quality match :lol: Or maybe Beethoven's Eroica :) And, of course, the ode of joy for us now :bounce:

He, he, the Heroïc Polonaise is really an awesome piece. :yeah:

wow am i the only rocker here?!i dont like electronic music-usually the new stuff actually pop-rock-r&b dont matter these days they all suck- to me a song should have good and meaningful lyric and nice vocals.but electro music doesnt have these qualities.to me of course :)

I like Pop-Rock but not pure rock... in general I don't like when a music is pure, I like when there are different influences into it, it makes it really much more sexy to me.

BTW I love Brazilian music too, one of the most famous Aguas de Março - Waters of March, my favorite version by Anya Marina composed by Antonio Carlos Jobim... so relaxing.

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LinusVanPelt
Oct 18th, 2011, 07:23 PM
I like Pop-Rock but not pure rock... in general I don't like when a music is pure, I like when there are different influences into it, it makes it really much more sexy to me.

hmm then i suggest you "ayreon". arjen lucassen makes concept albums usually.or, if you like mixed music-like me- you may enjoy anathema.

joy division
Oct 18th, 2011, 08:18 PM
Nice theme here
My taste is very different, I like classics very much, but overall it just has to be really good music
so take this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oab4ZCfTbOI&feature=related
this too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqaYmQZgrB4
or this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFc4s847cVk&feature=related
and this from Banditoo`s country
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=rDO_rGqZeZw
Hope it works for you

HowardH
Oct 19th, 2011, 11:08 AM
Oh I see where your username comes from now. The third link loads very slowly. I suggest this link instead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py-UJjBE2O8

HowardH
Oct 20th, 2011, 03:34 PM
Good music Howard overall - sorry I took out the Youtube vids for better flow - do you have a closer feeling to Opera and music with voice ? :lol: Seems like it...

No one cited Debussy, Claire de Lune (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNoSB1E7tYE) - this is an ABSOLUTE genius of a masterpiece. :worship:

That is indeed a beautiful and well-known song.

I don't specifically like Opera, but I do like songs which are beautiful. So, beautiful singing, or beautiful piano playing, things like that. I suppose I do especially like beautiful female singing. However it does depend on my mood.

However, occasionally, I do quite like to enjoy music that has less of a deep meaning. Actually, the kind of music I listen to is far more varied than the list I posted indicates. For instance, because of my interest in Anime and manga as well as the Japanese language I also listen to a fair amount of Japanese pop. They often use pop music for the themes in animes like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Gintama, Inuyasha, k-on, Love Hina, Azumanga Daioh, Lucky Star, Hikaru no go, Initial D etc. As an example I give this video, which someone made and posted on youtube- it's a compilation of this person's favourite anime openings. It includes many of the anime I know, as well as many I do not know well, but it also misses out several that I have watched. I tend to watch anime in the Japanese with subtitles, for the educational value, because the original is Japanese (and therefore things are always lost in translation) and because I think the Japanese voice actors are usually better. They have a culture in which voice acting is a serious profession, unlike in America where they tend to just use actors to portray voices. (Although some English dubs are done well).

Naturally the pop music in the animes is not quite as beautiful as the original music which is part of films such as Totoro, Spirited Away, etc, but I still like a lot of it.

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There are also other Japanese groups I listen to or watch. For instance, Perfume:

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Also, sometimes I listen to music for it's nostalgic value. For instance, I sometimes listen to a NZ band called Goldenhorse, whom I used to listen to when I was at high school. Their lead singer was Kirsten Morrell- I think they have split now and Kirsty has been trying a solo career. Note the Irirangi Te Motu- NZ On Air sign in the corner near the beginning (although it is obsured by the sign saying Goldenhorse) and again at the end. This is a very common thing to see on NZ television, a sign given in both Maori and English indicating that the artist is a NZer.

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When it comes to more modern French music, I don't know that much, but I did really like France Gall's Ella Elle l'a. There are quite a few covers by other artists now, but none have the feeling of the original. Actually, I'll admit that I only came across this song because of the cover by Alizée, who perhaps is better known for her looks and dancing than meaningful songs.

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Skoo
Oct 26th, 2011, 12:13 PM
In case someone's interested, here's a nice article (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111021151611.htm) :) (I can give you the entire journal article, should you be so interested :D)

Dispeker
Oct 26th, 2011, 04:25 PM
In case someone's interested, here's a nice article (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111021151611.htm) :) (I can give you the entire journal article, should you be so interested :D)

I read it - interesting, but does Julia really have a big problem with choking?

Skoo
Oct 26th, 2011, 05:48 PM
I read it - interesting, but does Julia really have a big problem with choking?

We cannot actually know what's happening to her, but there's a big chance it's choking (i.e., performing bad under pressure). It doesn't necessarily apply to only a game/important moment, it can apply to a whole match. Of course, there are other things involved, like technique and fitness, but I think most of us would agree it's mostly a mental issue.

But hey, her hair is consistent now :lol:

Anyway, the beauty of the article was that it reviews studies that have actually measured the effects of choking on movement. Gray identifies four types of effects: on movement variability (a pro athlete should have a minimum variability from stroke to stroke), on multi-joint coordination (which tends to have less variation under pressure and it seems to be inconsistent with the first effect at first), on movement economy (muscle activity is increased --they become rigid-- and it can lead to the first two effects) and on motor-control strategy (basically, under pressure, you start thinking too much about how you are going to hit; in the article a very nice experiment is described, in which pro golfers start hitting like beginners when they focus on how to do it -- a good stroke is automatic).

HowardH
Oct 26th, 2011, 06:53 PM
I read it - interesting, but does Julia really have a big problem with choking?

We should perhaps not call it choking in the TF sense of the word, but, as Skoo says simply performing in a sub-optimal way in general when under match pressure. This is a common difficulty for almost all athletes. Some players overcome this easily and others have great difficulty. All great players eventually overcome this one way or another.

It is correct that often the effect is measurable and consistent, and can be identified by a coach. A player can also identify it and then try to work towards correcting it. It can be difficult though. For instance, a certain (hypothetical) player may find that under pressure suddenly their toss becomes inaccurate, with a tendency to go to the right. They may also notice that when they try to adjust the toss they tend to overcompensate, and the toss becomes jerky and tends to go too far left and back.

At this point the player knows what to work on, at least, but it's still a very difficult situation to solve. Two methods are possible, and may suit different athletes. For some, simply teaching them to be in a different mind set can help. But for others, it actually may not be possible to make the technique happen "automatically" under pressure, because they may find that even if they let their mind go blank, some part of the technique is going wrong. If they are totally blank and loose but still making a mistake then the mistake will probably become a very consistent one. I.e. toss always goes right, never anywhere else. It will not be hard for the player to identify the symptom- toss consistently goes too far right- but the cause may be puzzling, and may be caused by a change of technique under pressure which the player has difficulty sensing.

For these athletes, it may be necessary to focus on one particular aspect of the technique. As the article indicates, the coach needs to help here. You have to try to understand what, exactly, is changing in the technique under pressure to make the toss go wrong. Perhaps a certain muscle is tensing more than it should. Possibly the eyes are looking in a different place than normal when under pressure. Maybe the player is more afraid to look up under pressure, or is focussing more on the opponent with the eyes than the toss/serve targets.

I wouldn't agree that it's always about thinking too much or even focussing too much on what you are doing. But it does have to do with mental state. Some players can solve it by stopping themselves by thinking. Others will need to relax enough to produce just one consistent repeating error, then identify the cause and solve it.

Skoo
Oct 26th, 2011, 07:40 PM
I wouldn't agree that it's always about thinking too much or even focussing too much on what you are doing. But it does have to do with mental state. Some players can solve it by stopping themselves by thinking. Others will need to relax enough to produce just one consistent repeating error, then identify the cause and solve it.

Yes, it is surely not always about the object of focus. Sometimes it can be simply luck, I suppose, especially when you have a high-risk game :) Only one little thing to add: too much doesn't belong here and I was wrong to say thinking too much. You just have to think about how to do it or at least that's what studies show. When you learn to perform a task, you also think about how to perform it, but after a while it becomes automatic and thinking again about how to perform it is actually a regression to that beginner level. I have no experience in sports, but I suppose it's pretty much like riding a bike :)

Skoo
Oct 28th, 2011, 05:14 PM
So here's the plan: we buy an ordinary raquet, we make it look like it has been used, we wrap it nicely in a present box and send it to her for Christmas with the message "Use it wisely and may it bring a lot of victories! Sincerely yours, Martina" :lol: (this is why (http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/10/the-case-of-the-haunted-golf-clu.html?ref=hp))

Banditoo
Nov 2nd, 2011, 02:15 PM
I really don't like hip-hop but this women have amazing voice.

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Another: (she is starting to sing from 2:30)

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Skoo
Nov 4th, 2011, 09:37 PM
Do you like that, Julia, should I keep doing it baby? (http://2009.commbanktennis.com/2011-gallery/gal/Jenggala_Pottery/O31-A-244.jpg) :oh: :lol: I want a lot of rep for this post :lol:

joy division
Nov 4th, 2011, 10:26 PM
Do you like that, Julia, should I keep doing it baby? (http://2009.commbanktennis.com/2011-gallery/gal/Jenggala_Pottery/O31-A-244.jpg) :oh: :lol: I want a lot of rep for this post :lol:

Of course Sabine, don`t stop it, you brang me lots of joy with this.

What`s up with you Skoo. You seem to be on fire tonight.:banana:

But as the goddess dictates "probably I`m crazy and sometimes you must be crazy in live" it would be profane to act counter here :lol:

Skoo
Nov 4th, 2011, 10:42 PM
Of course Sabine, don`t stop it, you brang me lots of joy with this.:timebomb:

What`s up with you Skoo. You seem to be on fire tonight.:banana:

But as the goddess dictates "probably I`m crazy and sometimes you must be crazy in live" it would be profane to act counter here :lol:

I like it cold, man, and it's cold now :banana: That must be it. But that's the first thought I had when I saw that pic of Sabine :lol: And with that look, it is perfect :) Oh, and your answer lived up to the expectations, especially with the bomb :lol:

Skoo
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:01 PM
But, being more serious, actually that discussion made me kinda sad for Julia. Vika really has a lot of fun and she's succesful and poor Julia tries so hard and I think that won't do good to her.

joy division
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:39 PM
I like it cold, man, and it's cold now :banana: That must be it. But that's the first thought I had when I saw that pic of Sabine :lol: And with that look, it is perfect :) Oh, and your answer lived up to the expectations, especially with the bomb :lol:

But, being more serious, actually that discussion made me kinda sad for Julia. Vika really has a lot of fun and she's succesful and poor Julia tries so hard and I think that won't do good to her.

I think Julia is not as poor as you say here and, well it`s a chat thread here and no monastery school.
Therefore the comments can`t be deadly serious all the time.;)

Skoo
Nov 4th, 2011, 11:56 PM
I think Julia is not as poor as you say here and, well it`s a chat thread here and no monastery school.
Therefore the comments can`t be deadly serious all the time.;)

Yes, if it were a monastery school I would ask God to forgive me for that sinful image, not say it out loud :lol:

I mean poor Julia is because I think she doesn't have much fun, she's too obsessed with getting better, and it is a wrong strategy. It seems tennis succes is proportional to the amount of fun you have being a player :) And it makes sense.

hankmoody
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:02 AM
Do you like that, Julia, should I keep doing it baby? (http://2009.commbanktennis.com/2011-gallery/gal/Jenggala_Pottery/O31-A-244.jpg) :oh: :lol: I want a lot of rep for this post :lol:

Nice one! :lol: You earned my rep! :worship:

Skoo
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:06 AM
Nice one! :lol: You earned my rep! :worship:

But you don't have rep yourself :bigcry: Thank you anyway :hi5:

hankmoody
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:10 AM
Do you like that, Julia, should I keep doing it baby? (http://2009.commbanktennis.com/2011-gallery/gal/Jenggala_Pottery/O31-A-244.jpg) :oh: :lol: I want a lot of rep for this post :lol:

But you don't have rep yourself :bigcry: Thank you anyway :hi5:

Well because this was only my second post, so it means something ;) Love your posts on Jule, so I think you deserve it... Big time :cool:

Skoo
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:19 AM
Well because this was only my second post, so it means something ;) Love your posts on Jule, so I think you deserve it... Big time :cool:

Oh, cut it out, man, I'm blushing right here :lol: But I do feel honored that is only your second post :bounce: Say, you wouldn't happen to be actually her, undercover, would you? :lol:

joy division
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:23 AM
Nice one! :lol: You earned my rep! :worship:

Wow, I always see your name in the user list of Julia`s threads and finally you start posting.:clap2:

Welcome on board.:wavey:

hankmoody
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:29 AM
Oh, cut it out, man, I'm blushing right here :lol: But I do feel honored that is only your second post :bounce: Say, you wouldn't happen to be actually her, undercover, would you? :lol:

You`ll never know for sure... :devil:
But if I actually were her, you would have the proof that she not only likes old dudes, but also 22 year old blond girls! :drool:

hankmoody
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:32 AM
Wow, I always see your name in the user list of Julia`s threads and finally you start posting.:clap2:

Welcome on board.:wavey:

Thanks... I was rather on the reading and laughing side till now, but skoo`s post was just too much! :D

Skoo
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:37 AM
You`ll never know for sure... :devil:
But if I actually were her, you would have the proof that she not only likes old dudes, but also 22 year old blond girls! :drool:

Well, I would not mind if she brings Sabine along from time to time :devil: And maybe I could cure her of gerontophilia :lol: But you are not her, right? :lol:

joy division
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:37 AM
Thanks... I was rather on the reading and laughing side till now, but skoo`s post was just too much! :D

No problem at all, Skoo is a real rocket.:worship:

I guess you are not Julia:sad:, she wouldn`t find such well chosen words and a fine sense of humor that you seem to have.:lol:

Vikapower
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:41 AM
Do you like that, Julia, should I keep doing it baby? (http://2009.commbanktennis.com/2011-gallery/gal/Jenggala_Pottery/O31-A-244.jpg) :oh: :lol: I want a lot of rep for this post :lol:

:spit:

That's a brilliant way to welcome a new Julia fan at least. ;)

hankmoody
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:44 AM
Well, I would not mind if she brings Sabine along from time to time :devil: And maybe I could cure her of gerontophilia :lol: But you are not her, right? :lol:

I honestly first had to wikipedia gerontophilia, but I already had an idea what you meant. :lol:
I will never mind to brang Sabine along at any time!! :drool:
And I will repeat myself... you`ll never know for sure!! :devil:

hankmoody
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:46 AM
:spit:

That's a brilliant way to welcome a new Julia fan at least. ;)

It is, isn`t it?? I just couldn`t resist! :)

Skoo
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:49 AM
:spit:

That's a brilliant way to welcome a new Julia fan at least. ;)

Does that mean you don't like it and you won't give me rep? :) (I'm only joking about the rep. I don't care about it :shrug:)

I honestly first had to wikipedia gerontophilia, but I already had an idea what you meant. :lol:
I will never mind to brang Sabine along at any time!! :drool:
And I will repeat myself... you`ll never know for sure!! :devil:

Oh, so it is you. Julia, we have been waiting for you for so long. Please, tell us, which one is the chosen one! :)

Vikapower
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:54 AM
I honestly first had to wikipedia gerontophilia, but I already had an idea what you meant. :lol:
I will never mind to brang Sabine along at any time!! :drool:
And I will repeat myself... you`ll never know for sure!! :devil:

Don't worry about Skoo, Julia likes nice young healthy men... :lol: The older guys are just trying to desperately fight the competition --

They're not that successful, Julia is malign and just having them believe in there old days... she's so caring, is there a quality she doesn't have. :inlove:

It is, isn`t it?? I just couldn`t resist! :)

:lol: Actually I wasn't going to post either... it took me sometime to understand the relationship between Jules and Sabz... in the most the most explcite and implicite definition. :cool:

Vikapower
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:56 AM
Does that mean you don't like it and you won't give me rep? :) (I'm only joking about the rep. I don't care about it :shrug:)

Actually it's fun, you'll get it... :lol:

Skoo
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:00 AM
Don't worry about Skoo, Julia likes nice young healthy men... :lol: The older guys are just trying to desperately fight the competition --

They're not that successful, Julia is malign and just having them believe in there old days... she's so caring, is there a quality she doesn't have. :inlove:

Yay, you brang me so much relief :lol:


:lol: Actually I wasn't going to post either... it took me sometime to understand the relationship between Jules and Sabz... in the most the most explcite and implicite definition. :cool:

:facepalm: You have failed. Now you have to go do makiri :lol:

Actually it's fun, you'll get it... :lol:

I knew you love me :hug: :lol:

joy division
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:05 AM
Don't worry about Skoo, Julia likes nice young healthy men... :lol: The older guys are just trying to desperately fight the competition --

They're not that successful, Julia is malign and just having them believe in there old days... she's so caring, is there a quality she doesn't have. :inlove:



:lol: Actually I wasn't going to post either... it took me sometime to understand the relationship between Jules and Sabz... in the most the most explcite and implicite definition. :cool:

Vikapower wears her glittering ball dress today and comes rushing into the chat thread:bowdown::lol:

Vikapower
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:15 AM
Yay, you brang me so much relief :lol:

:shrug: Julia doesn't put her nursing dress, everyone's fantasy's except mines but it's the same result... she's a doctor...

Actually she's not gerontophile but just the very modern youth fountain. :lol:

:facepalm: You have failed. Now you have to go do makiri :lol:

:spit: Who's Makiri ? I'll need a map to her subforum. :cool:

Vikapower wears her glittering ball dress today and comes rushing into the chat thread:bowdown::lol:

:lol: You wish unless if you're a fetishist of guys in ball dress... you've just forced this same picture with Julia into my head... and Sabz and Vika and... thanks. :help:

joy division
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:20 AM
:lol: You wish unless if you're a fetishist of guys in ball dress... you've just forced this same picture with Julia into my head... and Sabz and Vika and... thanks. :help:[/QUOTE]

So you finally destroyed my illusion, as Howard once did to you in Skoolia`s final saison report:sad::lol:

Skoo
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:21 AM
:spit: Who's Makiri ? I'll need a map to her subforum. :cool:

Well, it's basically under the skirt. Or were you talking about another subforum? :lol: But dude, if you don't wanna do makiri, just tell me, I'll do her for you :lol:

hankmoody
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:24 AM
Don't worry about Skoo, Julia likes nice young healthy men... :lol: The older guys are just trying to desperately fight the competition --

They're not that successful, Julia is malign and just having them believe in there old days... she's so caring, is there a quality she doesn't have. :inlove:

Jay, what a relief! ;) So I still have a chance! :bounce:
Of course only if she doesn`t prefer Petko, Jarka or Bine!:drool:

Vikapower
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:29 AM
Well, it's basically under the skirt. Or were you talking about another subforum? :lol: But dude, if you don't wanna do makiri, just tell me, I'll do her for you :lol:

Mmm, ok well at least you give me the confirmation that I'm not as twisted... :devil:

:eek: Makiri is overrated... and no I do not want to do her even in my nightmares... she's all for you. ;)

Vikapower
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:32 AM
Jay, what a relief! ;) So I still have a chance! :bounce:
Of course only if she doesn`t prefer Petko, Jarka or Bine!:drool:

The only girl that'd ne able to turn Julia into gay is a girl that is Julia herself... :shrug: if you have a player I'm free to ideas.... Andrea, Jarka or Sabz ?

So you finally destroyed my illusion, as Howard once did to you in Skoolia`s final saison report:sad::lol:

:bolt: Well you knocked on the wrong door... I'm sure many of the other will be devoted to your dream(s). :hug:

Skoo
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:39 AM
Mmm, ok well at least you give me the confirmation that I'm not as twisted... :devil:

:eek: Makiri is overrated... and no I do not want to do her even in my nightmares... she's all for you. ;)

Well, thank you, you're a pal :lol: But not even in your nightmares? Come on, she can't look so bad :)

What's so bad about this (http://www.thecampussocialite.com/wp-content/uploads/maria-kirilenko2.jpg)? :shrug:

joy division
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:48 AM
The only girl that'd ne able to turn Julia into gay is a girl that is Julia herself... :shrug: if you have a player I'm free to ideas.... Andrea, Jarka or Sabz ?



:bolt: Well you knocked on the wrong door... I'm sure many of the other will be devoted to your dream(s). :hug:

Unlucky you want to get me all wrong here:confused:, but I`ll bear it with fortitude;).

Vikapower
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:48 AM
Well, thank you, you're a pal :lol: But not even in your nightmares? Come on, she can't look so bad :)

What's so bad about this (http://www.thecampussocialite.com/wp-content/uploads/maria-kirilenko2.jpg)? :shrug:

Well these are typically the type of cliché's of why I'm unappreciative about her... :dance: the cliché bathing suit... :awww:

:haha: For that matter Kournikova does me the same effects, so don't feel worried.

:shrug: I could name a bunch of girls who are hotter than Lil'Kiri, Pivovarova for a start.

joy division
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:50 AM
Well, thank you, you're a pal :lol: But not even in your nightmares? Come on, she can't look so bad :)

What's so bad about this (http://www.thecampussocialite.com/wp-content/uploads/maria-kirilenko2.jpg)? :shrug:

She has an average face, but in my nightmares I meet other things:lol:

Vikapower
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:50 AM
Unlucky you want to get me all wrong here:confused:, but I`ll bear it with fortitude;).

:lol: I was just joking hopefully you realised it... :hug:

Skoo
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:53 AM
Well these are typically the type of cliché's I hate... :dance: as soon as you'll see Makiri in a discussion someone will akways take out the cliché bathing suit thing like this is suppose to do something...

:haha: For that matter Kournikova does me the same effects, so don't feel worried.

:shrug: I could name a bunch of girls who are hotter than Lil'Kiri, Pivovarova for a start.

She doesn't look that bad on court to me either :shrugh: But hey, everybody with their preferences, right? :)

I don't like Kournikova much either. Makiri is hotter :) And, of course, Pivovarova is hot, maybe hotter, but that doesn't mean Makiri is nightmareish :)


She has an average face, but in my nightmares I meet other things:lol:

Yes, I can agree about the face :)

joy division
Nov 5th, 2011, 02:06 AM
:lol: I was just joking hopefully you realised it... :hug:

Phew, that`s good news.
You took me for a ride here.:yeah::lol:, I didn`t quite realize it.

hankmoody
Nov 5th, 2011, 02:17 AM
The only girl that'd ne able to turn Julia into gay is a girl that is Julia herself... :shrug: if you have a player I'm free to ideas.... Andrea, Jarka or Sabz ?

Well I was just thinking of the scenes when she was playing dubs with Petko (the hugging and chest bumping :hearts:) and her friendship with Jarka (who is also sooo hot!!). And there is no doubt (ImhO) that Sabine is just the hottest girl (next to Jule :worship: ) in the WTA, so why wouldn`t she want to be with her? :D
But like I said that`s just my humble opinion. ;)

Vikapower
Nov 5th, 2011, 02:32 AM
Well I was just thinking of the scenes when she was playing dubs with Petko (the hugging and chest bumping :hearts:) and her friendship with Jarka (who is also sooo hot!!). And there is no doubt (ImhO) that Sabine is just the hottest girl (next to Jule :worship: ) in the WTA, so why wouldn`t she want to be with her? :D
But like I said that`s just my humble opinion. ;)

:spit: Speaking of, I swear I saw 'Drea and Jules try the chest thing the B'brothers do on the ATP tour and they weren't even leaving the ground...

:worship: The crowd was amused but Julia and 'Drea really do know how to have fun together... :lol:

[...] any opinion is cool, Sabine next to Julia or Julia next to Andrea or even Julia herself is anything but hot... I guess... express as much as you wish... :devil:

She doesn't look that bad on court to me either :shrugh: But hey, everybody with their preferences, right? :)

I don't like Kournikova much either. Makiri is hotter :) And, of course, Pivovarova is hot, maybe hotter, but that doesn't mean Makiri is nightmareish :)

I'm pretty unconventional, I generally hate things everybody likes... just so it goes... ;)

Kournikova as for her it's not even for her body, just the fact that she's a quitter... my heart would have never supported that Julia would decide to leave tennis with the success she had to go and do photography, modelling and this kinds of commercial nonsense.

That doesn't help women's cause either but that's not the talk. :wavey:

Vikapower
Nov 5th, 2011, 02:34 AM
Phew, that`s good news.
You took me for a ride here.:yeah::lol:, I didn`t quite realize it.

:lol: Come on now, you should know me by now -- I'm as easy going as Julia would with a 62 year old. :cool:

Skoo
Nov 5th, 2011, 11:10 AM
I'm pretty unconventional, I generally hate things everybody likes... just so it goes... ;)

Yeah, who else likes Julia, Maria, Sorana? :lol: You just don't like one and maybe you're unconventional with Vika, who I suppose is not liked by so many people :) Oh, and Ana? You don't like her either by any chance? :)

LinusVanPelt
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:32 PM
oh my gosh what happened in here ?? these classy conversations made me day :) wouldnt it be nice to picture ana ivanovic and julia a for a second :devil: of course sabine and petko are good candidates too :lol:

Dispeker
Nov 5th, 2011, 12:58 PM
God, I tell you guys, this spa is just fantastic! I'm currently lying on a huge bed smoking a cigarette – wait... have to take another puff... ahh, much better now – while Julia is taking a shower next door in the bathroom – oh, don't get me started on the bathroom. It's simply brilliant!
Yesterday we went jogging by the sea. It was a bit chilly but Julia loved it. I also took a picture of her standing in front of the beach. She probably will upload it on twitter, I don't know.

That's it for today, I'll keep you updated!

Skoo
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:10 PM
Really classy indeed, Emir :lol:

Dispeker, old buddy, would please ask her to asnwer me? A simple no would make my day too. We're not all as lucky as you are :)

LinusVanPelt
Nov 5th, 2011, 01:12 PM
God, I tell you guys, this spa is just fantastic! I'm currently lying on a huge bed smoking a cigarette – wait... have to take another puff... ahh, much better now – while Julia is taking a shower next door in the bathroom – oh, don't get me started on the bathroom. It's simply brilliant!
Yesterday we went jogging by the sea. It was a bit chilly but Julia loved it. I also took a picture of her standing in front of the beach. She probably will upload it on twitter, I don't know.

That's it for today, I'll keep you updated!

you know some guy is really doing this right now :lol: there are really lucky guys in germany! :[:ras: