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BepaMaria
May 6th, 2011, 04:03 AM
Obviously some essential players are Sharapova and the WS who attract the bulk of tennis viewers with their stardom(and Serena for her famous on-court outbursts), as well as Zvonareva with a flawless and aesthetically pleasing game style. What other players do you think are essential for the WTA?

Wiggly
May 6th, 2011, 04:12 AM
Any player who plays an exciting brand of tennis when it truly matters is essential for the WTA.

Right now, Sharapova is key. Same for Serena and Venus.
The Tour is also pimping out Kim's motherhood like there's no tomorrow and that can attracts viewers.

Sadly, that's pretty much it. They're the only worldwide known names.

The Tour needs a new superstar. She has to be young, pretty and with a Major-winning game and a personality. And I feel if she could be "quiet" on court, that would be good. No shrieking.

She has to appear before 2012 as Kim, Serena and Venus will most likely retire.

SAISAI-GOAT
May 6th, 2011, 04:14 AM
are you kidding ??? the tour could easy survive without Zvonareva :rolls:

Na Li is important because they need a star in the world's most populous country :bowdown:

Sp!ffy
May 6th, 2011, 04:20 AM
Zvonareva is a fucking eyesore for the tour

Ivanovic2008
May 6th, 2011, 04:20 AM
Ana Ivanovic. I know her Ajdes can be annoying but they brighten the tour :hearts:
Oh and Melanie Oudin. :wink:

Ivanovic2008
May 6th, 2011, 04:23 AM
Oh and Masha and Petkovic!

There is nothing pleasing about Bepa except for when she melts down. Fun to watch :drool:

thegreendestiny
May 6th, 2011, 04:31 AM
Wozniacki. Even though people here (including myself at times) stab her for fun, I believe she makes WTA entertaining and has proven herself that she can draw a good crowd (better than Venus recently). :wavey:

Daniela-Is-Mine
May 6th, 2011, 04:34 AM
Obviously some essential players are Sharapova and the WS who attract the bulk of tennis viewers with their stardom(and Serena for her famous on-court outbursts), as well as Zvonareva with a flawless and aesthetically pleasing game style. However, is there any other players who are essential for the WTA?

:tape: smh.
those strokes...

gc-spurs
May 6th, 2011, 04:35 AM
I'd say Na Li is an important one just because of China.
Shazza, WS, Kim and possibly Ana are the real vital ones. They draw the crowds and viewers.

tennisforadults
May 6th, 2011, 05:00 AM
Kim Clijsters (champion qualities)
Williams sisters (American interests and champion qualities)
Maria Sharapova (star power)
Ana Ivanovic (star power... sorry JJ fans)
Li Na (China)

And I'm sure I'll cop flak for this...

Sam Stosur (Australian Open crowds, and a different game)

Also up-and-coming stars who play impressive games...

Petra Kvitova
Julia Goerges
Andrea Petkovic
Aravane Rezai (before her slump)
Laura Robson (UK interests)

Bonfire
May 6th, 2011, 05:12 AM
Wozniacki!
Love her or hate her...
she is keeping the fire burning right now.
The majority of TF poster's opinions of her(negative or positive) are passionate.
That seems essential.

Chakvenus
May 6th, 2011, 05:30 AM
I get the Zvonareva bias for you seeing as you drool over even her shit, but essential for the tour? Please. Far from it.

hpme
May 6th, 2011, 05:34 AM
Venus/Serena
Kim
Maria Sharapova
Ana
Li Na

Azarenka somehow?
and I do think Kvitova will be more essential

lovable
May 6th, 2011, 05:39 AM
:lol:

Zvonarewwa for sure:yeah:

On a serious note, never understood those claims that the tour isn't complete without Serena. Last 10 months proved otherwise pretty clear. Sharapova's absence wasn't noticed at all too. Henin, quitting being #1, is probably the only rare exception of the rule that there are no essential players whatsoever.

Melange
May 6th, 2011, 05:50 AM
:lol:

Zvonarewwa for sure:yeah:

On a serious note, never understood those claims that the tour isn't complete without Serena. Last 10 months proved otherwise pretty clear. Sharapova's absence wasn't noticed at all too. Henin, quitting being #1, is probably the only rare exception of the rule that there are no essential players whatsoever.

Dont you know the tour would collapse without those few players

Ivanovic2008
May 6th, 2011, 05:54 AM
:lol:

Zvonarewwa for sure:yeah:

On a serious note, never understood those claims that the tour isn't complete without Serena. Last 10 months proved otherwise pretty clear. Sharapova's absence wasn't noticed at all too. Henin, quitting being #1, is probably the only rare exception of the rule that there are no essential players whatsoever.

Yea because everything on the WTA's just going great isn't it? Think before you post.

Temperenka
May 6th, 2011, 05:56 AM
Obviously some essential players are Sharapova and the WS who attract the bulk of tennis viewers with their stardom(and Serena for her famous on-court outbursts), as well as Zvonareva with a flawless and aesthetically pleasing game style. However, is there any other players who are essential for the WTA?

Vera's strokes make me want to rip my eyes out of their sockets.

She isn't necessary for the success of the tour.

If she disappeared, I don't even know how many people on this board would notice, let alone casual fans. :lol:

A Magicman
May 6th, 2011, 06:01 AM
Sharapova, Williamses and some players who are giving some speed to the ball until moonballing it around.

That would be an in form Ivajdevic, the likes of Petkovic and Goerges and so.

Bonfire
May 6th, 2011, 06:03 AM
Sharapova, Williamses and some players who are giving some speed to the ball until moonballing it around.

That would be an in form Ivajdevic, the likes of Petkovic and Goerges and so.

:worship:

Mr.Sharapova
May 6th, 2011, 06:10 AM
Sharapova,WS,Kim :shrug:.

And we can also add Li because she's from China :angel:.

Batiguza
May 6th, 2011, 06:26 AM
Marion Bartoli, of course. :worship:

edificio
May 6th, 2011, 06:27 AM
Obviously some essential players are Sharapova and the WS who attract the bulk of tennis viewers with their stardom(and Serena for her famous on-court outbursts), as well as Zvonareva with a flawless and aesthetically pleasing game style. However, is there any other players who are essential for the WTA?

FFS!!! She had an outburst once! Once!

:help:

Vera is known for her meltdowns.

lovable
May 6th, 2011, 06:33 AM
Yea because everything on the WTA's just going great isn't it? Think before you post.
Not great. Perfect. Better than ever.

If your fave player isn't doing any well it doesn't automatically mean that the whole tour isn't great. If can't put your pink ajde-glasses off, then be quiet and listen to what the objective people like myself have to say.:(

gc-spurs
May 6th, 2011, 06:50 AM
:lol:

Zvonarewwa for sure:yeah:

On a serious note, never understood those claims that the tour isn't complete without Serena. Last 10 months proved otherwise pretty clear. Sharapova's absence wasn't noticed at all too. Henin, quitting being #1, is probably the only rare exception of the rule that there are no essential players whatsoever.

Serena and Maria are pretty essential if you want ticket sales and crowds on stadium courts. Maria got Auckland sold out without making the finals.

gc-spurs
May 6th, 2011, 06:53 AM
Not great. Perfect. Better than ever.

If your fave player isn't doing any well it doesn't automatically mean that the whole tour isn't great. If can't put your pink ajde-glasses off, then be quiet and listen to what the objective people like myself have to say.:(

It's not going great when a lot of people don't can't even identify some of the top players these days. So many people at AO asked me who Woz, Fran and Vera were when they were on the practice courts.

Bonfire
May 6th, 2011, 07:00 AM
It's not going great when a lot of people don't can't even identify some of the top players these days. So many people at AO asked me who Woz, Fran and Vera were when they were on the practice courts.

Can't recognize the world #1, current FO champion and the finalist at previous two slams before AO?? Bad tennis fans!:boxing:;)

Kim's_fan_4ever
May 6th, 2011, 07:08 AM
I get the Zvonareva bias for you seeing as you drool over even her shit, but essential for the tour? Please. Far from it.

Exactly :lol:

Njalle
May 6th, 2011, 07:11 AM
Guys, guys! Zvonareva is important for the tour, since Wozniacki has to have some kind of opposition once Kimmie retires. Even if there's far down from the #1 spot :devil:

bandabou
May 6th, 2011, 07:14 AM
The best thing would be for Masha to regain her form...she's the game, the mentality and of course the looks. WS and Kim are on the way out..and Masha was always the heiress apparent.

Caro isn't gonna cut it with that game. She has the looks, but her game is waaayyyyy too boring for her to ever become a true megastar.

lovable
May 6th, 2011, 07:22 AM
Serena and Maria are pretty essential if you want ticket sales and crowds on stadium courts. Maria got Auckland sold out without making the finals.
I agree. Essential is not the word anyway. All of them are substitutable. For the WTA as the company missing Maria or Serena might have a silight impact at first, but it's not like they will declare a loss the very next quarter after some star player retired.:p

It's not going great when a lot of people don't can't even identify some of the top players these days. So many people at AO asked me who Woz, Fran and Vera were when they were on the practice courts.
Random tennis spectators. Of course, there's a chance they would know who Serena and Maria are because they have been on tour like forever, have won the thing in Melbourne as well, unlike Woz who has had only a few appearances there.

tennisforadults
May 6th, 2011, 07:24 AM
Can't recognize the world #1, current FO champion and the finalist at previous two slams before AO?? Bad tennis fans!:boxing:;)

Come on, we know Aussies only care about Australian players and Federer. ;)

BepaMaria
May 6th, 2011, 07:53 AM
Wozniacki!
Love her or hate her...
she is keeping the fire burning right now.
The majority of TF poster's opinions of her(negative or positive) are passionate.
That seems essential.

Good point. I actually agree with this statement:eek:

Vera's strokes make me want to rip my eyes out of their sockets.

She isn't necessary for the success of the tour.

If she disappeared, I don't even know how many people on this board would notice, let alone casual fans. :lol:

Oh yes she is. With Clijsters and the WS not playing, she is easily the best player on the tour and would draw lots of viewers. If she disappeared, many people would notice and suffer the effects of her absence.

Marion Bartoli, of course. :worship:

Can you please explain why Bartoli is essential for the tour?

FFS!!! She had an outburst once! Once!

:help:

Vera is known for her meltdowns.

I guess you only started watching tennis in 2009:help:

Ivanovic2008
May 6th, 2011, 07:56 AM
Not great. Perfect. Better than ever.

If your fave player isn't doing any well it doesn't automatically mean that the whole tour isn't great. If can't put your pink ajde-glasses off, then be quiet and listen to what the objective people like myself have to say.:(

Woah there. Our top ten player's are slumping or injured. Our number 1's has the worst forehand in top twenty history let alone number 1's. We have no commited players who can play every tournament with domanation. Maybe Woz eventually but not now. Calm down and look back into our history, Watch the matches that the great woman played. Come back and tell me what you have learned young padawan.

Ivanovic2008
May 6th, 2011, 07:59 AM
Wait someone said Bartoli? :spit:

MaBaker
May 6th, 2011, 08:05 AM
Jankovic.

Ashi
May 6th, 2011, 08:08 AM
Mirza.....atleast for viewers in India and Pakistan. ;)

:oh: Also, the non resident indians.

skanky~skanketta
May 6th, 2011, 08:17 AM
What would actually create a lot of hype, and I hate to admit it is a truly good up-and coming American player.

edificio
May 6th, 2011, 08:20 AM
I guess you only started watching tennis in 2009:help:

No, I most certainly did not. You do not know what you are talking about.

nevetssllim
May 6th, 2011, 08:22 AM
I think Bartoli's good for the tour. She's really quirky and the tour needs these sorts of characters.

kollun
May 6th, 2011, 09:18 AM
Woah there. Our top ten player's are slumping or injured. Our number 1's has the worst forehand in top twenty history let alone number 1's. We have no commited players who can play every tournament with domanation. Maybe Woz eventually but not now. Calm down and look back into our history, Watch the matches that the great woman played. Come back and tell me what you have learned young padawan.
Actually he is right. 2010 the WTA had more viewers on TV and more visitors in the Stadiums than ever (see their 2010 report). You see it from a US perspective, but since WTA is global, and we have many different nationalities in the WTA, you have to see the whole picture.

Example Caroline Wozniacki played QF against Julia Goerges on a friday in primetime at the International event in Copenhagen last august. She attracted 612'000 viewers average, with a peak at 900'000. Her 1 round Tuesday had 411'000 average, second round Thursday 499'000 average.

To compare the CBS in the US had 1'100'000 million viewers at USO 2009 Final Clijsters-Wozniacki. US has 310 mill people, Denmark has 5.5 mill people. So would translate into nearly 35 mill viewers in the US, just for a QF at an International event.

Mens Final 2009 USO Federer-DelPotro CBS 2.3 mill, Wimbledon 2009 Federer Roddick BBC in the UK had 7.5 mill viewers.

Might be Tennis is losing interest in the US, but globally does not seem the case.

Thats why Wozniacki is important in several markets, Li Na is important in other markets, Stosur, Sharapova, Serena, Venus, Görges & Petko, Clijsters, Ivanovic, not to forget Sania Mirza all have their importance in different markets.

Globally you could argue maybe Sharapova, Serena and Venus have the broadest recognition, but that does not always translate into most viewers.

65 mill Chinese watched the AUS 2010 Final Clijsters-Li Na, just as a final example (Superbowl gets 100 mill viewers in the US for context).

Do you think the WTA is looking forward to the Asian tour this year? :) Caroline has also very quickly become popular in Japan, due to Yonex deal, and her visible support for the Earthquake victims, as well as her win in Tokyo. Also in China she is becoming a known name, due to her win in Beijing last year, her Semi against Li Na at AUS and the growing interest of the WTA tour.

Why do you think the 2nd HQ of the WTA was placed in Beijing, and Beijing became Premier Mandatory a few years ago?

MiiMo
May 6th, 2011, 09:32 AM
Maria !:)

Melange
May 6th, 2011, 11:27 AM
It's not going great when a lot of people don't can't even identify some of the top players these days. So many people at AO asked me who Woz, Fran and Vera were when they were on the practice courts.

ask the average person to name a golfer other than woods

Daruma.
May 6th, 2011, 11:31 AM
Jankovic.

Yes, no stripper, no fun.

pav
May 6th, 2011, 11:35 AM
Zvonareva is a fucking eyesore for the tour
You are a fucking idiot

Hian
May 6th, 2011, 11:35 AM
Serena, Ana, Kim, Jelena and Venus.

pav
May 6th, 2011, 11:43 AM
The plain truth is no player is essential to the tour, anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong!People can tout this player and that player and insult others but it doesn't change a fact.

tonybotz
May 6th, 2011, 12:32 PM
is there only one teenager in the entire top 50? thats the problem right there. theres no new blood. no prodigies to marvel over. its a bunch of old ladies with failing bodies grunting and producing shit tennis.

miffedmax
May 6th, 2011, 12:34 PM
Clearly, Dementieva coming out of retirement would save the WTA, as well as bringing about world peace, an end to global warming and the dawning of a new age of enlightenment and harmony.

Also, it would be good if Stephens or Coco or some other young 'merican started to pan out.

Frontin
May 6th, 2011, 12:41 PM
In the 2000's decade it was WS, Henin, Hingis, Kim, Masha, JCap, Lindsay, Amelie, Sveta and Ana.

In the 2010's decade it will probably be Caro, Vika, Kvitova, Petko and Yanina.

Comparing the two decades, 2000's shits all over 2010's so far.

We need a young major winning star pronto. I don't care what country. Someone crafty, controversial and memorable please.

Vikapower
May 6th, 2011, 01:12 PM
Obviously some essential players are Sharapova and the WS who attract the bulk of tennis viewers with their stardom(and Serena for her famous on-court outbursts), as well as Zvonareva with a flawless and aesthetically pleasing game style. What other players do you think are essential for the WTA?

The WS dependance has faded now they're just objects of fantasm for the historians, collectioners... in museums around the world... the young generation has put itself in order of march apparently and it's inevitable... 1/4 in Madrid were Nastya (19), Julia (22), Cibul (21 or so), Petra (20), the pusher, Vika (22) etc... in Stuttgart it was almost the same Sabine (21 or so), Andrea (87 generation)...

They're in the starting blocks ready to write a new page in tennis who has been corrupted for so many years by undeserving players... unfortunately there no french... Alizé but she's far... Kristina is my next big hope.

Your question should have been who are the players going to be essential for the tour in the near or far future... Petra, Julia, Vika, Sabine, Andrea, Nastya, MAYBE a big MAYBE Jovanovski and Vandeweghe...

Chelsey Gullickson is so far but I believe if she was abled to explose rapidly in the top 150-200 then top 100 she's a good add.

cellophane
May 6th, 2011, 01:24 PM
:spit: at Zvonareva being essential for the tour

JJ all the way
May 6th, 2011, 01:40 PM
:spit: at Zvonareva being essential for the tour

I think they were referring to her coach :p
Bepa is consistent, but she always looks soo off balance

BuTtErFrEnA
May 6th, 2011, 01:48 PM
Obviously some essential players are Sharapova and the WS who attract the bulk of tennis viewers with their stardom(and Serena for her famous on-court outbursts), as well as Zvonareva with a flawless and aesthetically pleasing game style. What other players do you think are essential for the WTA?

serena has only had one on court outburst...

she's famous because she plays good tennis with a champion mentality and is a sore loser...the epic comebacks and style of dress have coupled with this to make her a star outside of the sport as well

Curtos07
May 6th, 2011, 06:43 PM
Ana Ivanovic.

-Beautiful player (sex sells)
-Exciting game to watch (when in form)
-Great personality and VERY likeable person.
-Class act (winner of 2008 WTA sportsmanship award)
-Great ambassador for game (work with UNICEF, great with children, various off-court humanitarian awards).

Sammo
May 6th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Samantha Stosur, we need a non retarded big babe Bollettieri game player like her.

Ryan
May 6th, 2011, 07:04 PM
No one is essential. The tour survived after Navratilova. After Graf. Evert. Seles. Hingis. Davenport. Mauresmo. Henin. It will survive without Venus, Serena and Kim.

For all the people complaining "woe is the WTA!", the Tour is still going strong and making money/being shown on TV/the most popular women's sport in the world. Sure its second fiddle to the ATP right now, but a healthy Venus/Serena/Kim wouldn't even change that.

stangtennis
May 6th, 2011, 07:11 PM
Verdasco - an essential "player" at their parties.

BepaMaria
May 6th, 2011, 07:15 PM
Verdasco

Please explain.

No one is essential. The tour survived after Navratilova. After Graf. Evert. Seles. Hingis. Davenport. Mauresmo. Henin. It will survive without Venus, Serena and Kim.

For all the people complaining "woe is the WTA!", the Tour is still going strong and making money/being shown on TV/the most popular women's sport in the world. Sure its second fiddle to the ATP right now, but a healthy Venus/Serena/Kim wouldn't even change that.

That was because the likes of Kim, WS and Sharapova kept the tour alive. The tour is still going strong now because Sharapova, Schiavone(yes i forgot to mention her in my first post), Zvonareva and Ivanovic(to a small extent)are maintaining it.

If the WS were around now, the tour would be even stronger. Do not underestimate the power of these 2 women. When casual fans think of women's tennis, they think of WS. Many people watch WTA tennis to see them play. When WS are not playing, I can safely say that many viewers are lost.

Seyz
May 6th, 2011, 08:35 PM
The biggest draws are not necessarily the best players; but some have more star power than others. The ideal ones would be in order of star power.

Serena Williams
Venus Williams
Maria Sharapova.
Kim Clijsters.
Jelena Jankovic.
Ana Ivanovic.
Kuznetsova (anyone whom has won multiple grandslams deserves to be on the list, even though she's not someone that naturally attracts the spotlight)
Caroline Wozniacki

These are the biggest stars on tours on the top of my head probably.

Ferg
May 6th, 2011, 08:39 PM
Marion Bartoli, of course. :worship:

This :hearts: Shes pivotal.

Ferg
May 6th, 2011, 08:45 PM
Wait someone said Bartoli? :spit:

Says a fucking arrogant fan of a crap player whos done jack shit the past 3 years and still gets talked up like shes actually any good anymore after 2 fluke tournaments. Shes about as essential to the tour as Govortsova. Look at who you pick first you baby.

atominside
May 6th, 2011, 08:49 PM
LOL at Zvonareva. puhlease. She isnt important.

Elisse
May 6th, 2011, 09:16 PM
It all depends what you class as 'essential' for the Tour. In terms of selling the Tour and being marketable....Sharapova, Ivanovic, Wozniacki, Serena, Kirilenko...sex sells and what pleases the sponsors, pleases the Tour.

I personally would have a different definition of 'essential' for the Tour....the players that are unique and bring something special to the Tour, not just sex or good looks but personality, sparkle and intelligence, something different :hearts:

In this catagory I would put...

Petkovic (dream of a player, intelligent, fun, great attitude and great with the fans)
Schiavone (great game and a really fun character)
Jankovic (what a personality, what a diva :lol: )
Kuznetsova (she's different, she's funny...Tour wouldn't be the same without her)
Also....Beth Mattek-Sands, Vera Zvonareva, Akgul Amanmuradova, Aravane Rezai, Sania Mirza, Na Li...they all bring something different and though the Tour wouldn't end without them, it certainly would be a much more boring place :worship:

HRHoliviasmith
May 6th, 2011, 09:43 PM
:spit: at Zvonareva being essential for the tour

yeah that cracked me up, too. :lol:

Ivanovic2008
May 6th, 2011, 11:07 PM
Says a fucking arrogant fan of a crap player whos done jack shit the past 3 years and still gets talked up like shes actually any good anymore after 2 fluke tournaments. Shes about as essential to the tour as Govortsova. Look at who you pick first you baby.

Your a good friend too ferg :hearts:.