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TeamUla
May 5th, 2011, 09:36 PM
http://www.sport.pl/tenis/1,64987,9547896,Tenis__Karoliny_Wozniackiej_proble m_z_ofensywa.html

The newspaper says:
Dunka polskiego pochodzenia przez wielu ekspertów nazywana jest "pusherem", bo tylko "popycha" piłki za siatkę, czekając na błędy rywalek, sama atakuje rzadko. Do niedawna taka skrajnie defensywna taktyka wystarczała na prawie wszystkie przeciwniczki. Woźniacką regularnie ogrywały jedynie Serena Williams (nie gra od lipca 2010 r.) i Kim Clijsters (też kontuzjowana).

Piotr Woźniacki, ojciec i trener Karoliny, a także jego główny doradca Sven Groenefeld z teamu Adidasa próbują przyswoić Dunce bardziej ofensywny styl, m.in. z częstszymi wyjściami do siatki, ale skutki są na razie mizerne. Czy porażki z Goerges to sygnał, że muszą się śpieszyć, bo konkurencja uczy się, jak wygrywać z Karoliną?

To jedna możliwość, ale duńscy dziennikarze wskazują na inną. Woźniacka od kilku tygodni ostro trenuje fizycznie - wstaje o 7 rano, biega, idzie na siłownię, dopiero potem na kort i tak w kółko. Wszystko po to, by pod koniec maja być w żelaznej kondycji i wygrać Wielkiego Szelma w Paryżu. Duńczycy mówią, że wpadki z Goerges mogą być efektem przemęczenia po tej katordze. Być może trenerzy dali sobie spokój z ofensywą, ale liczą, że na French Open Karolina "popchnie" za siatkę już absolutnie wszystko.

which means:
The Dane of Polish origin is called by many tennis experts "pusher" as she only "pushes" the balls into the other side of the courts waiting for the errors of her opponents, on her own she attack rarely. Until now such defensive tactics was enough for almost all players. The Wozniacki was only regularely beaten by Serena Williams (who has not played since July 2010) and Kim Clijsters (also injured).

Piotr Wozniacki and Sven Groenefeld try to teach to Caroline more offensive style with more net play but the results are very poor. Are the losses to Goerges the signal that they must hurry up as the tennis players learn how to play with Caroline?

It is the only way but the Danish journalist say that there is the other one. Caroline has been training hard physically for a few weeks. She wakes up at 7 AM, joggs, practises in the gym afterwards in the tennis courts. In Denmark they say those losses to Goerges are the results of fatigue. Maybe her coaches realized that Caroline will never play offensive tennis and they count that on French Open Caroline will push into the other side of the court absolutely everything.

Wonderin who those experts are :lol: Too much TF reading :p

Miracle Worker
May 5th, 2011, 09:45 PM
Polish amazing newspaper :hearts:

And Caroline is not pusher. She just hit every ball - and usually these balls land somewhere on the middle of the court....

It's not pushing.

Mekoro
May 5th, 2011, 09:54 PM
Brad Gilbert called Wozniacki the closest player tho the ideal of his book.

It's not hard to argue than in today match Wozniacki pushed. She was completely outplayed from the baseline, everything was in Julia racket and Wozniacki had no answer, she did not step up, she did not react, she did not change anything, except in the very hand where she did a lot of UE trying to be more agressive.

Wozniacki will not last years at number one playing like this in my opinion. Either she has the talent to evolve and add great offensive shots to her arsenal (on HC his backand is already effective) or either she will stagnate. Her age , her hardwork ethic makes me hope she evolves her game enough to develop answers a being outplayed.

goldenlox
May 5th, 2011, 09:58 PM
What do those experts say about Radwanska?

Sammo
May 5th, 2011, 09:59 PM
:lol:

Wiggly
May 5th, 2011, 10:00 PM
Every player does fitness during the tournaments.
However, if you're going to go all out on your training, you usually don't play tournaments while doing so.

fouc
May 5th, 2011, 10:01 PM
What do those experts say about Radwanska?

It is very rarely complimentary of Radwanska actually. Recently they had an article called 1000 days without a title.

fouc
May 5th, 2011, 10:07 PM
What I don't understand, however, is why ppl still find it so amusing that TF is referred to as experts. Yes, there is plenty of shit out there, but in contemporary world, the status of an expert has changed. It is no longer reserved to armchair critics, who represent institutions that have the monopoly for knowledge. In the age of Internet, fan-bases have to be considered as experts. It does change the very condition of knowledge and criticism, but it's hardly surprising or exceptionable.

Matej
May 5th, 2011, 10:07 PM
It is very rarely complimentary of Radwanska actually. Recently they had an article called 1000 days without a title.

Wow, is she really that long without a title? :astonished: :help: :help:

Richie's
May 5th, 2011, 10:09 PM
The only tennis experts are the fans (of this forum too :))!

fouc
May 5th, 2011, 10:10 PM
Wow, is she really that long without a title? :astonished: :help: :help:

^^
yep, when you put it like that, it really looks surprising and :help:-worthy

goldenlox
May 5th, 2011, 10:53 PM
There are plenty of people, like Lansdorp, who think you need aggressive weapons to win big.
Its not just posters in GM.
Until Caro wins majors, her style is going to be criticised.

What got me so in the 'discussion' is that a lot of people felt Caro wasnt top 10. That she wins only if her opponent stinks that day.

I think she is pretty good, and her results say that. But until she wins majors, people will blame her style.

Roookie
May 5th, 2011, 11:12 PM
It is very rarely complimentary of Radwanska actually. Recently they had an article called 1000 days without a title.

:hysteric:

Smitten
May 6th, 2011, 12:38 AM
Wow, is she really that long without a title? :astonished: :help: :help:

I don't think she's won anything since her Eastbourne win in 2008 because Zvonareva took over Pattaya City. :lol:

Poland turning on their adopted daughter Karolina.

CloudAtlas
May 6th, 2011, 01:17 AM
I don't recall any tennis expert ever calling her a pusher. Yeah her overt defensiveness has been criticised sometimes but I think people with sufficient knowledge tend to realise she is much more than a 'pusher' which is far too simplistic a term.

Sund7101
May 6th, 2011, 01:39 AM
I would categorize Wozniacki as a retriever. She rarely if ever plays offense first in a rally, she lets her opponent dictate play, which is why at times it can be frustrating to watch some of her matches because lesser opponents will implode. They are missing short balls in the middle of the court. It's nice to see that Georges has been able to take advantage and step up.

edificio
May 6th, 2011, 06:53 AM
It is very rarely complimentary of Radwanska actually. Recently they had an article called 1000 days without a title.



COLD!

Still, Aga's doing pretty well for someone with such a serve.

Kim's_fan_4ever
May 6th, 2011, 07:05 AM
There's also this, below the photo: Karolina Woźniacka chce wygrać Wielkiego Szlema, ale jak dotąd wciąż nie umie atakować. Which means: Karolina Woźniacka wants to win a Grand Slam, but as yet she still can't attack :crying2:

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Still, Aga's doing pretty well for someone with such a serve.

Aga's serve has improved significantly as of late, hence the number of aces she's been serving recently.

Halepsova
May 6th, 2011, 07:16 AM
Since when TF posters are tennis experts? :confused:

bandabou
May 6th, 2011, 08:15 AM
She's like the Mayweather of tennis...defense first, avoiding to trade shots. it's a shame because she's a big girl..should be willing and able to play a more risky game without losing strategy part.

lovable
May 6th, 2011, 08:33 AM
Seriously? We needed to know one incompetent writer's opinion? Next time let me know what does Honduras' sports paper thinks about Woźniacka:yeah:

Matej
May 6th, 2011, 09:20 AM
Aga's serve has improved significantly as of late, hence the number of aces she's been serving recently.

Correction: Aga´s first serve has improved significantly as of late; the second serve remains as weak and attackable as ever, as witnessed by the match vs. Gajdošová.

So Disrespectful
May 6th, 2011, 11:25 AM
I think the same standards should be applied to pushers as they are to ballbashers. The very people who claim Wozniacki is not a pusher and that "pushers do not exist at a professional level" are the ones calling Rezai and Sharapova brainless ballbashers. If we can't use the term 'pusher', what makes it ok to use the term 'ballbasher'?

Mistress of Evil
May 6th, 2011, 11:32 AM
the thing they said about Lady Aga is way more fun :drool:
Karolina has heard this b4 :shrug:

Safin
May 6th, 2011, 11:39 AM
Polish amazing newspaper :hearts:

And Caroline is not pusher. She just hit every ball - and usually these balls land somewhere on the middle of the court....

It's not pushing.

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but how does your point oppose the argument of her not being a pusher?

fouc
May 6th, 2011, 11:41 AM
the thing they said about Lady Aga is way more fun :drool:
Karolina has heard this b4 :shrug:

You didn't even get the purpose of this thread, congrats.

backhandsmash
May 6th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Another day, another Woz thread.

Matt01
May 6th, 2011, 12:05 PM
She's like the Mayweather of tennis...defense first, avoiding to trade shots. it's a shame because she's a big girl..should be willing and able to play a more risky game without losing strategy part.


You've said similar things about Woz' game...why don't you just accept that not all players are ballbashers and that some players play a different game?

Young 8
May 6th, 2011, 01:52 PM
Brad Gilbert called Wozniacki the closest player tho the ideal of his book.


The multi-slams winner Brad Gilbert

lovable
May 6th, 2011, 02:19 PM
The multi-slams winner Brad Gilbert
:weirdo:

So now tennis coach must be a multiple times slam winner to be allowed to have an opinion, world-wide respected opinion by the way.

Young 8
May 6th, 2011, 02:24 PM
:weirdo:

So now tennis coach must be a multiple times slam winner to be allowed to have an opinion, world-wide respected opinion by the way.

No, I was just "fishing"