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Keadz
May 5th, 2011, 12:54 PM
....because she can do more on te court than Maria.

Thoughts?

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 5th, 2011, 12:55 PM
'Vika is a much better version of Pova, if she can win slams then so can Vika'

She was talking about the Pova who won slams, not the current pova.

Anabelcroft
May 5th, 2011, 12:56 PM
When she becomes world number 1 and wins all GS apart from RG it could be considered...

Daruma.
May 5th, 2011, 12:56 PM
Well, the title says it all. :oh:

In my opinion, although Vika plays an aggresive game, she has more margin for error and can adapt to each surface better than Sharapova does. On the other hand, Sharapova is a much stronger and resistant player physically.

AcesHigh
May 5th, 2011, 12:56 PM
:sobbing: oh lord

madmax
May 5th, 2011, 12:56 PM
I literally LOL'ed here:haha:

doomsday
May 5th, 2011, 12:57 PM
I like Vika but just no.

Lucemferre
May 5th, 2011, 12:57 PM
Better version of serveless sharapova maybe but she is not even half the player Sharapova was in her prime.

Shinjiro
May 5th, 2011, 12:58 PM
She's better on clay.

M-K
May 5th, 2011, 12:58 PM
I literally LOL'ed here:haha:

I like both, but honestly me too. She took it a little too far there :lol:

Nontheless, Azarenka is playing like a number one out there. I know it doesn't say too much considering the opponent, but still. That is what the number one player should be able to "look like" against most anyone. In control. Take notes Wozniacki.

saul1333
May 5th, 2011, 12:59 PM
Watch and wait and see :angel:

thegreendestiny
May 5th, 2011, 12:59 PM
Yeah, coz Vika won Wimbledon at 17. O wait, she hasn't reached a slam SF yet. :tape:

Setsuna.
May 5th, 2011, 01:00 PM
Lol

doktor
May 5th, 2011, 01:01 PM
I heart Maria but I have a feeling this might be a wait and see question, maria definitely hits way bigger of the ground though

bright
May 5th, 2011, 01:01 PM
Truth hurts, anyone?:lol:

Renalicious
May 5th, 2011, 01:02 PM
I usually love Sam Smith but she is COCKSUCKING Vika so much tonight. :sobbing: Chill out, she's not God or something... :lol: Still, I have to say Vika is playing VERY good.

bandabou
May 5th, 2011, 01:02 PM
Hmmmm.....the current Sharapova I hope she meant. Vika's game is too lite to be compared to Masha's. They don't play the same style.

Cherry.
May 5th, 2011, 01:05 PM
I usually love Sam Smith but she is COCKSUCKING Vika so much tonight. :sobbing: Chill out, she's not God or something... :lol: Still, I have to say Vika is playing VERY good.
This.
She probably just got too excited when she saw the way Vika is playing right now.

TheHangover
May 5th, 2011, 01:06 PM
sorry i voted yes but i meant no

Smitten
May 5th, 2011, 01:08 PM
Sam Smith is a bandwagoner, so this isn't surprising. She stays harping on Karolina in all her matches too.

The Witch-king
May 5th, 2011, 01:08 PM
This.
She probably just got too excited when she saw the way Vika is playing right now.

WAS playing. The purple patch is ova.

Sergius
May 5th, 2011, 01:11 PM
Why did she compare Vika to Maria? They don't play the same at all :shrug:

Libertango
May 5th, 2011, 01:11 PM
As soon as I heard her say that I knew there'd be a thread on here. :lol:

Personally, I agree. She is marginally less one dimensional IMO. Marginally. She's also a better mover.

madmax
May 5th, 2011, 01:14 PM
As soon as I heard her say that I knew there'd be a thread on here. :lol:

Personally, I agree. She is marginally less one dimensional IMO. Marginally. She's also a better mover.

she's also 8 centimetres shorter, which helps her to move better as well. 2004 teenage Pova was a pretty good mover too

tennis-insomniac
May 5th, 2011, 01:16 PM
As soon as I heard her say that I knew there'd be a thread on here. :lol:

Personally, I agree. She is marginally less one dimensional IMO. Marginally. She's also a better mover.

Vika does not have strong mentality like Sharapova. In 17, Maria beat Serena Williams in two sets, in 20, won AO without dropping a set and beat Henin 6-4, 6-0. Vika in the other hand even in her prime led a set and double break in AO against Serena, still managed to lose.

Kworb
May 5th, 2011, 01:21 PM
:facepalm: Azarenka pummels some journeywomen and immediately her bandwagon is full again. :rolleyes:

timafi
May 5th, 2011, 01:21 PM
put that crack pipe down Sam:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

if Azarenka's that good then explain why she hasn't gotten past her 3th QUARTERFINAL at a major since the 2010 Australian Open:tape: while little Masha won Wimbledon at 17?:oh::oh::oh::oh:

the shit people say:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::rolleyes: and fuck no!:mad:

Sammo
May 5th, 2011, 01:22 PM
WTF that's just pathetic and I dislike Sharapova, Azarenka is pure crap compared to top Sharapova

Mistress of Evil
May 5th, 2011, 01:22 PM
No Comment :D

Vodkapova
May 5th, 2011, 01:24 PM
How are they comparable exactly? :help: Because they grunt?

Mikey.
May 5th, 2011, 01:25 PM
I like Vika but she ain't no pre-injury Maria. Her forehand and serve are way below the standards of pre-injury Maria's. However she probably is a better version of current day Maria.

RenaSlam.
May 5th, 2011, 01:26 PM
Maria's (peak) serve > Azarenka

Lachy
May 5th, 2011, 01:27 PM
I just died. To think I liked this woman. She can sit the fck down and marvel at her career high '57' singles ranking :spit:

CloudAtlas
May 5th, 2011, 01:27 PM
Sam Smith is the queen of exaggeration and hyperbole on the Eurosport team. I never take her seriously. And yes we all know Azarenka playing at her best is a very good player but let her go deep in more than one tournament in a row before bestowing such praises on her.

Reptilia
May 5th, 2011, 01:31 PM
oh hell no! :lol:

cellophane
May 5th, 2011, 01:32 PM
Is she like Nadal or Djokovic too? [/samsmith]

L'Enfant Sauvage
May 5th, 2011, 01:35 PM
-___________________-

... That is all.

Noctis
May 5th, 2011, 01:37 PM
Vika hits the ball faster,than Maria,
because Maria has longer arms,and need to swing it.

Peak maria still wins

Vikapower
May 5th, 2011, 01:39 PM
Maria is a shotmaker... Victoria is a consistent power hitter... Victoria is not error prone but can get outplayed by a big hitter... Maria can be very error prone but at her best she's the ultimate player.

Victoria and Maria can be good on any surface... Maria at her best is alone... Vika hasn't played peak yet.

Weird comparision.

Ciarán
May 5th, 2011, 01:39 PM
This is the funniest thing I have ever heard. Sam Smith has well and truly out done herself :worship: This woman compared Julia Goerges to Serena too in the match before this :lol: She is on a roll today!

JamieOwen3
May 5th, 2011, 01:41 PM
I really like Vika but has Sam been drinking from the fur cup before she came on air and had a rush of chemicals to the head?

When Maria won the AO in 2008 she did so with really outstanding tennis in all her matches, the QF was just stunning that year from Maria so the current WTA not being as strong as it was even in 2008 Vika needs to win a slam defeating big names first and lets be honest how many of them are around FULLY dominating these days? Justine hadn't lost since wimbledon 07 when Maria defeated her in the AO QF, lets pass that benchmark first Vika :) RG 2011 is where i think she will.

AndreConrad
May 5th, 2011, 01:42 PM
It is funny how people just jump when players are on the roll and forget about them when they are not. I can recall the comments how the tour will benefit once Maria will return after injury. To even try to make a comparison one has to wait much closer to the end of their careers and even then it will be semi-objective comparison. They are both very talented and still very young ladies. Their careers may go in so many directions. I guess if they both ended at this moment Maria would leave much stronger legacy, but this hopefully is not happening for any of them.

pesto
May 5th, 2011, 01:46 PM
I was confused by this too. I don't even think their style is very similar at all - their strengths and weaknesses are almost opposite in some ways. They are both blondish, hit the ball hard and they grunt. That is all. If only Victoria had a tenth of Maria's steel...

Azarenka can be great to watch, and can look effortlessly brilliant at times - I think she could win slams if she can stay injury-free and get her emotions in check, but no way is she a "better version of Sharapova".

Comebacksova
May 5th, 2011, 01:47 PM
That's insulting to Vika. :o

Mikey.
May 5th, 2011, 01:50 PM
I always wonder why people seem to argue that Maria and Vika aren't really that similar. They are both hard hitters who don't really have overwhelming power like a Williams. They use their constant barrage of deep and heavy shots to beat their opponents into submission. They are two of the best aggressive returners in the game. They both have a better backhand than forehand.

The main differences I guess are that Vika is quite capable at net and is slightly faster. Maria plays a little less percentage than Vika and she has the better forehand + serve. Oh and Maria definitely has (or had rather) the mental edge over Vika.

madmax
May 5th, 2011, 01:54 PM
I always wonder why people seem to argue that Maria and Vika aren't really that similar. They both are hard hitters who don't really have overwhelming power like a Williams. They use their constant barrage of deep and heavy shots to beat their opponents into submission. They are two of the best aggressive returners in the game. They both have a better backhand than forehand.

The main differences I guess are that Vika is quite capable at net and is slightly faster. Maria plays a little less percentage than Vika and she has the better forehand + serve.

the difference is that Maria at her best hits much deeper and harder than Vika and she can dominate any opponent when she's on her top form. Vika is also more like a power grinder, while Maria is a shotmaker and loves to go for the lines frequently. So no, they are not very much alike when you dwelve deeper into their games.

JamieOwen3
May 5th, 2011, 01:58 PM
when i think about it it's actually on the verge of being disrespectful of sam :lol: saying someone who hasn't reached a slam SF is better than a 3 time slam champ at her best, plus Maria actually beat great players in the years she won her 3 slams, one i can think of apart from the obvious 04 one is the 2006 US Open SF against 2 slam winner of that year Mauresmo who was #1 and had never lost to Maria, Maria went out there and had a look of she was not leaving the court without a win. Sorry but IMO only about 4-5 people are better than Maria at their Very best and if we have or haven't seen Vika's best yet i don't think it will get better than Maria's top level mentality included. I wouldn't mind if Vika won RG though :devil:

CloudAtlas
May 5th, 2011, 02:04 PM
Azarenka doesn't even hit the ball that hard. She takes the ball early, so it comes back quicker and therefore sometimes creates the illusion that's it's power when it knocks the opponent back. She consistently hits at the same pace as Zvonareva who is not really a power hitter.

She can't keep this up over a long match though. Which is her main weakness and the reason why she has a losing h2h against players like Wozniacki. If you draw her into lengthy rallies consistently sooner or later her game will break down. Evidenced by the fact that since 2009 her two wins against Woz were two beatdowns on Woz and matches which went to three sets ended up with Woz coming out as the victor. (Obvs this doesn't take form of players at the time into account but you know what I mean :p)

Vikapower
May 5th, 2011, 02:09 PM
I always wonder why people seem to argue that Maria and Vika aren't really that similar. They are both hard hitters who don't really have overwhelming power like a Williams. They use their constant barrage of deep and heavy shots to beat their opponents into submission. They are two of the best aggressive returners in the game. They both have a better backhand than forehand.

The main differences I guess are that Vika is quite capable at net and is slightly faster. Maria plays a little less percentage than Vika and she has the better forehand + serve. Oh and Maria definitely has (or had rather) the mental edge over Vika.

Maria has much more power than Vika and she also takes much more risks... this comparision to me is kind of senseless... and by all means with Maria's great achievements and history it will always be in Vika's disfavor.

Vika still has to prove herself in the majors... on the WTA tour we all know she's top 5 player eventually future #1... we'll see.

doooma6816
May 5th, 2011, 02:12 PM
Well Vika is better on clay I think but when we compare Maria at her best...well her groundgame+serve>>>>>>>Vika's...but of course Vika can reach this level...I mean she improved a lot lately.

hurricanejeanne
May 5th, 2011, 02:37 PM
I adore Vika, and I sort of see what's being said (like Vika has a bit more variety; more solid on clay) but Maria has slams and Vika doesn't, so until she does Maria's still better regardless of her current form.

tennismaster8820
May 5th, 2011, 02:42 PM
They both scream, that's the only thing where they are similar.

denny5576
May 5th, 2011, 02:48 PM
such statement is in the air - there is no proof it is true

Adal
May 5th, 2011, 02:50 PM
Better version of the current Sharapova for sure.
Old Sharapova? Absolutely not. People seemed to have forgotten what a great player she was, Azarenka doesn't come close.

The Dawntreader
May 5th, 2011, 02:55 PM
Azarenka doesn't even hit the ball that hard. She takes the ball early, so it comes back quicker and therefore sometimes creates the illusion that's it's power when it knocks the opponent back. She consistently hits at the same pace as Zvonareva who is not really a power hitter.



She doesn't take the ball especially early, especially in comparison to how early and well-prepared PeakPova used to take the ball. Azarenka's has much broader swings that don't really allow her to take the ball that early, and is reduced to playing at this accumulative level, building up her groundstrokes before attempting to finish the rally, which of course makes her vulnerable to hitters who are much more pro-active and take the ball earlier.

Pova's heavy, heavy serve, her immaculate lenth, width off the backhand and her precision off the ground elements that Azarenka just doesn't possess. Sharapova could hold her own with some of the greatest shot-makers of all time, something Azarenka is consistently unable to achieve. She lacks the upper-body strength of Sharapova also.

18majors
May 5th, 2011, 02:56 PM
Better version of the current Sharapova for sure.
Old Sharapova? Absolutely not. People seemed to have forgotten what a great player she was, Azarenka doesn't come close.

You're absolutely right!

Azarenka is the "original version of Maria without the serves".

cro123456
May 5th, 2011, 03:05 PM
Better version of the current Sharapova for sure.
Old Sharapova? Absolutely not. People seemed to have forgotten what a great player she was, Azarenka doesn't come close.

How can you say that, it´s not like Azarenka already peaked.
Who says that Azarenka won´t win 4 majors, or faid away...
That question can only be answered in a few years.

miffedmax
May 5th, 2011, 03:12 PM
I lurv them both--okay, Azza more--but I don't see why you'd compare the two. If anything, Snicker's game (return-based, decent-but-not-great-serve, reliable forehand) reminds me more of the late model Dementieva than anything else. She's doesn't have Lena's fitness or turbos, but her game is a little less robotic and that helps compensate.

Even now, with it being dodgy, TOB's game is still based on her serve. When it's on, she wins. When it's off, she loses. And her game is still more based on battering her opponents into submission.

I mean it's like Smith picked 'pova's named at random. :shrug:

tkutsaar
May 5th, 2011, 03:16 PM
I would say Vika's grunts are easier to tolerate.

Beat
May 5th, 2011, 03:17 PM
i find that statement hilarious, yet offensive.

miffedmax
May 5th, 2011, 03:19 PM
I was confused by this too. I don't even think their style is very similar at all - their strengths and weaknesses are almost opposite in some ways. They are both blondish, hit the ball hard and they grunt. That is all.



No, I'd say They are both blondish, hit the ball hard, are Eastern European, have great legs, sexy schnozes, they grunt and are in the Legion of Blondes. That is all.;)

Linguae^
May 5th, 2011, 03:27 PM
Azarenka who?

BlueTrees
May 5th, 2011, 03:34 PM
Right. And Sam Smith is a better version of Serena Williams. :bowdown: :oh:

SymphonyX
May 5th, 2011, 03:41 PM
She can do more things than Sharapova, except that some of the things Azarenka are good at such as power baselining, at her best she wouldn't come close to Sharapova in those aspects. Sharapova is the queen of offense on the WTA tour. "Make every shot, a power shot." Just like her Canon ads.

Vikapower
May 5th, 2011, 03:42 PM
Azarenka who?

Ok JJ fan.

duhcity
May 5th, 2011, 04:10 PM
I think Azarenka could go toe to toe with Maria in terms of game. Serve, peak Maria would win.
But Mentality? No. If Azarenka is shitty, she's shit. If Maria is shitty, she'll will her way to win.
And on the WTA, mentality is the most important thing next to a serve.

Viktymise
May 5th, 2011, 04:13 PM
She wishes.

Just Do It
May 5th, 2011, 04:15 PM
If she wins couple of slams, yes, till then no. She isn't that young anymore.

Dominika23
May 5th, 2011, 04:15 PM
lol

AcesHigh
May 5th, 2011, 05:02 PM
Azarenka doesn't even hit the ball that hard. She takes the ball early, so it comes back quicker and therefore sometimes creates the illusion that's it's power when it knocks the opponent back. She consistently hits at the same pace as Zvonareva who is not really a power hitter.

She can't keep this up over a long match though. Which is her main weakness and the reason why she has a losing h2h against players like Wozniacki. If you draw her into lengthy rallies consistently sooner or later her game will break down. Evidenced by the fact that since 2009 her two wins against Woz were two beatdowns on Woz and matches which went to three sets ended up with Woz coming out as the victor. (Obvs this doesn't take form of players at the time into account but you know what I mean :p)

She doesn't take the ball especially early, especially in comparison to how early and well-prepared PeakPova used to take the ball. Azarenka's has much broader swings that don't really allow her to take the ball that early, and is reduced to playing at this accumulative level, building up her groundstrokes before attempting to finish the rally, which of course makes her vulnerable to hitters who are much more pro-active and take the ball earlier.

Pova's heavy, heavy serve, her immaculate lenth, width off the backhand and her precision off the ground elements that Wozniacki just doesn't possess. Sharapova could hold her own with some of the greatest shot-makers of all time, something Azarenka is consistently unable to achieve. She lacks the upper-body strength of Sharapova also.

Ehh ehh... I think somewhere in between these posts is the truth.
I don't think she takes the ball particularly early... but it's true that Azarenka doesnt hit the ball that hard.

LShang
May 5th, 2011, 05:07 PM
I thought Azarenka is a better version of MJ Fernandez...

Craig.
May 5th, 2011, 05:08 PM
Proves how much of a tool she actually is and how overrated she is on here.

@danieln1
May 5th, 2011, 05:11 PM
Peak Sharapova def. Peak Azarenka in straight sets on hard, grass, indoor...

Peak Azarenka def. Peak Sharapova on clay in three hard fought sets...

case closed!

Pump-it-UP
May 5th, 2011, 05:17 PM
This thread just gave me so much life! :lol::drool:

This is the funniest thing I have ever heard. Sam Smith has well and truly out done herself :worship: This woman compared Julia Goerges to Serena too in the match before this :lol: She is on a roll today!

Oh god. :hysteric: I hope she was talking about their breast size, because that's about the only similarity. :tape:

Vikapower
May 5th, 2011, 05:43 PM
^^ ROFL Julia >>> Rena in the 22nd. dimension.

Adal
May 5th, 2011, 05:43 PM
How can you say that, it´s not like Azarenka already peaked.
Who says that Azarenka won´t win 4 majors, or faid away...
That question can only be answered in a few years.
I'm not saying she has peaked, I'm just saying that her game right now is not on par with Sharapova's game from 2004-2008.

And who knows, perhaps Maria hasn't peaked yet either.

RenaSlam.
May 5th, 2011, 05:53 PM
I'm not saying she has peaked, I'm just saying that her game right now is not on par with Sharapova's game from 2004-2008.

And who knows, perhaps Maria hasn't peaked yet either.

Maria has definitely peaked. Let's not be too in denial here.

Ashi
May 5th, 2011, 06:37 PM
This thread just gave me so much life! :lol::drool:
Oh god. :hysteric: I hope she was talking about their breast size, because that's about the only similarity. :tape:

:oh: Serena trumps her in that department too. ;)

Adal
May 5th, 2011, 06:38 PM
Maria has definitely peaked. Let's not be too in denial here.
MOST definitely. You can never be absolutely sure. Life is full of surprises.

Linguae^
May 5th, 2011, 06:41 PM
Ok JJ fan.
So what? :rolleyes:

John.
May 5th, 2011, 06:48 PM
Sam :weirdo: Just no

miffedmax
May 5th, 2011, 07:02 PM
Maybe Sam was talking about a sweets eating contest, in which case Snickers' only competition would come from "Cake" Bartoli and "Donuts" Myskina.

Vikapower
May 5th, 2011, 07:04 PM
So what? :rolleyes:

Victoria is the last person you can criticize on the tour. :hug:

LindsayRulz
May 5th, 2011, 07:28 PM
There's no way Azarenka is a better version than the Wimbledon 04 - Roland Garros 08 Maria. She was a model a constancy back in that period, going deep in slams (winning 3 majors), which is all the opposite of what we've seen from Azarenka so far. He was maybe comparing her to the Maria of the last few years, but that wouldn't be fair since we all know what the real Maria is capable of when her game is on.

stangtennis
May 5th, 2011, 07:51 PM
Sam Smith: Azarenka, "a better version of Maria Sharapova".
I think she was referring to their screams. :lol:

joão.
May 5th, 2011, 07:56 PM
:lol:

Mr.Sharapova
May 5th, 2011, 08:05 PM
:haha:.

This made my day :angel:.

justineheninfan
May 5th, 2011, 09:16 PM
Prime Sharapova would slaughter Azarenka. Since Sharapova is already washed up at 23 Azarenka is currently the better player, but she will be hard pressed to match Maria's career.

lovable
May 5th, 2011, 09:18 PM
True that. Azarenka is a modern version of Sharapova. Better, not overally, but nowadays for sure!

MakarovaFan
May 5th, 2011, 09:36 PM
Other than being tall blonde baseline screamers they dont have much in common. Vika is more of a baseline grinder with no real "Kill shot" whereas Maria hits sharp heavy shots of both wings relentlessly and has(d) the serve to back her up

starin
May 5th, 2011, 09:47 PM
if by better she means worse than I agree.

Vincey!
May 5th, 2011, 09:49 PM
'Vika is a much better version of Pova, if she can win slams then so can Vika'

She was talking about the Pova who won slams, not the current pova.

That's where I disagree with her. Right now Vika is a better Pova if you consider how Maria is playing there days. BUT Old Masha would beat Vika fairly easily. I mean, she almost came back in that 2nd in the Miami final and Maria was playing shit :tape: Nowhere near her best. I do think Vika has a shot at RG this year, but simply cuz she doesn't have any competition lolll

LCS
May 5th, 2011, 10:37 PM
Someone needs firing.

Vika can only dream of Maria's mental strenght just for starters. Prime Maria was too good for Azarenka.

Craig.
May 5th, 2011, 10:46 PM
if by better she means worse than I agree.

:hysteric: THIS.

VishaalMaria
May 5th, 2011, 11:22 PM
Maria playing the tennis she displayed in 2008 would kill Azarenka 6-1 6-1

claypova
May 5th, 2011, 11:44 PM
:haha:

i like vika, but she is nothing compared to peakpova :tape:

dynamoRockstarr
May 6th, 2011, 12:23 AM
She's better than Masha now, but we all know who the clone is...

Monzanator
May 6th, 2011, 04:40 AM
Maria won 22 titles including 3 slams with WS, Belgians, Davenport & Mauresmo all in their prime. 'Nuff said :devil: Azarenka is just a ballbashing Pova-wannabe :shrug: Peak Pova >>>> Peak Azarenka :wavey:

L'Enfant Sauvage
May 6th, 2011, 05:03 AM
I'd go so far as to say Prime, PeakPova is probably around #4 of the 2000's. Serena obviously is at #1, Venus and Henin are 2/3. I'd put Maria's top level as above Capriati, Clijsters, Momo and all the rest in terms of purely who'd beat who. The only problem was that her Prime lasted so much shorter than all of the top three I listed. Or rather, 04-08 very well might NOT have been her prime were it not for injury :shrug:

We haven't seen Azarenka's top level yet, but I find it very hard to believe she'll come close to Maria's. But yeh, 2010/11 Vika >>> Masha, I don't think you'll find very many people who can deny that.

justineheninfan
May 6th, 2011, 05:59 AM
It looks like Smith is suggesting Azarenka is superior to prime Sharapova which is indeed ridiculous. Prime Sharapova beat prime Serena and Henin in slam finals in straight sets. Imagine Azarenka ever doing that in a million years, ROTFL! There are some who wonder if Azarenka will ever win a slam even with the abysmal generation she is coming up with.

justineheninfan
May 6th, 2011, 06:03 AM
Azarenka's game most reminds me of a sort of female Djokovic. An even mix of offense and defense. However that isnt too good a comparision since she is a MUCH weaker even roughtly translated female version of that game. She is kind of an even mix of offense and defense but isnt great at either, so I dont know who to compare her to. Maybe a poorer versoin of Dementieva in her prime, and as we know Dementieva never won a slam. With a better serve than Dementieva though. If Azarenka wins any slams it will either be because she continues to improve (very plausible given her age) or that she simply lucked out to come up with such a weak age group of players (also plausible and probable).

bandabou
May 6th, 2011, 06:17 AM
Maria of ' 04-' 08 is much much better than Vika right now. It's not even a comparison. Bigger game, better mental game too.

Vika's ground game is pretty good, no kill shot..but she redirects shots pretty well. But that 90 mph serving?! :facepalm:

edificio
May 6th, 2011, 06:46 AM
If she means better than the Sharapova of today, okay, but...Maria has the slams. Silly thing to say.

Kim's_fan_4ever
May 6th, 2011, 07:12 AM
I just died. To think I liked this woman. She can sit the fck down and marvel at her career high '57' singles ranking :spit:

You can sit the fck down too with that pathetic comment :facepalm:

Azarenka is a lesser version of Sharapova. Not to mention she has yet to reach a Slam SF :spit:

Vikapower
May 6th, 2011, 01:57 PM
Maria playing the tennis she displayed in 2008 would kill Azarenka 6-1 6-1

This is ridiculous as for the score... and I wonder in which hat you pulled that 6-1 6-1 rabbit from... :rolleyes: Victoria hasn't played a half of the quarter of her very best... and both have never faced at their very best... how do you even know what peak Vika looks like !!?

In Dubaï 2010 peak Vee wasn't even abled to bagel or breadstick Victoria even with her Karlovic serve... and I'm sure if I say peak Vee >>> peak Maria everyone would agree... so if by principle peak Vee can't even astonish a 70% Victoria so I wonder from which principle you're able to base your statement.

Thanks for having participated in the discussion anyways.

GoofyDuck
May 6th, 2011, 02:11 PM
This is ridiculous as for the score... and I wonder in which hat you pulled that 6-1 6-1 rabbit from... :rolleyes: Victoria hasn't played a half of the quarter of her very best... and both have never faced at their very best... how do you even know what peak Vika looks like !!?

In Dubaï 2010 peak Vee wasn't even abled to bagel or breadstick Victoria even with her Karlovic serve... and I'm sure if I say peak Vee >>> peak Maria everyone would agree... so if by principle peak Vee can't even astonish a 70% Victoria so I wonder from which principle you're able to base your statement.

Thanks for having participated in the discussion anyways.

You are such an crazy troll I would ban you right now if I could.

Saying peak Vee was in 2010 Dubai is equal to saying you are not a fucking idiot.

Ashi
May 6th, 2011, 02:30 PM
Unecessary pressure on Vika! :(

Kim's_fan_4ever
May 6th, 2011, 02:35 PM
You are such an crazy troll I would ban you right now if I could.

Saying peak Vee was in 2010 Dubai is equal to saying you are not a fucking idiot.

:worship:

Vikapower
May 6th, 2011, 02:41 PM
You are such an crazy troll I would ban you right now if I could.

Saying peak Vee was in 2010 Dubai is equal to saying you are not a fucking idiot.

Dude... do you really think that I thought that Dubaï 2010 was peak Vee !!? I adressed this message specifically and intentionally to Veeror because I knew that s/he'd forcefully appreciate it... get a freaking clue JJ fan.

Take back all the couch experts who watch Vika and say not only she plays peak but that she'd get stripped by etc... player at peak... predicting out of nothing bible like statements...

Peak Rena who's supposed to be the greatest talent of the universe wasn't even abled to bagle Victoria even in the Wimbledon match.

If you can't enjoy irony then you're triple more dumb that I have ever been in the last 65 years of my life... but whatever. JJ fan.

Coconut91
May 6th, 2011, 03:17 PM
Unecessary pressure on Vika! :(

This. She doesn't have to be Sharapova 2.0 nor a "better version" of anybody. They are completely different players and they will have completely different careers. Just give the girl a chance to evolve and prove herself at majors and then we'll see, but at the moment she's only 21 and a lot of things can happen, it's not like she's going to retire tomorrow morning. ;)

cellophane
May 6th, 2011, 03:28 PM
Now Bethanie is Lady Gaga of the women's tour :rolleyes:

Get with the program, Sam... everybody knows it's Lady JaJa

GoofyDuck
May 6th, 2011, 03:37 PM
Dude... do you really think that I thought that Dubaï 2010 was peak Vee !!? I adressed this message specifically and intentionally to Veeror because I knew that s/he'd forcefully appreciate it... get a freaking clue JJ fan.

Take back all the couch experts who watch Vika and say not only she plays peak but that she'd get stripped by etc... player at peak... predicting out of nothing bible like statements...

Peak Rena who's supposed to be the greatest talent of the universe wasn't even abled to bagle Victoria even in the Wimbledon match.

If you can't enjoy irony then you're triple more dumb that I have ever been in the last 65 years of my life... but whatever. JJ fan.

I didn't detect irony, guess I'm to used to seeing your trollish posts :lol:

Break My Rapture
May 6th, 2011, 03:42 PM
If she means better than the Sharapova of today, okay, but...Maria has the slams. Silly thing to say.
Spot on, case closed.

Vikapower
May 6th, 2011, 04:27 PM
I didn't detect irony, guess I'm to used to seeing your trollish posts :lol:

I have no problems. ;) Factually I didn't say anything bad it's unfortunate Vee has gotten the better of my mental health after all these years.

As I never bad rep : Vika >>> Vee will be it. :bigwave:

VeeJJ ad vitam aeternam.

L'Enfant Sauvage
May 6th, 2011, 04:36 PM
It looks like Smith is suggesting Azarenka is superior to prime Sharapova which is indeed ridiculous. Prime Sharapova beat prime Serena and Henin in slam finals in straight sets. Imagine Azarenka ever doing that in a million years, ROTFL! There are some who wonder if Azarenka will ever win a slam even with the abysmal generation she is coming up with.

:spit: I usually agree with all of your posts but...

JCTennisFan
May 7th, 2011, 01:49 AM
Azarenka definitely has a huge amount of potential, and I do think she has a good shot at winning GS someday (which is ALOT more than I can say of most other girls her age) but I really fail to see the resemblance in their games minus their similar yelps when hitting the ball (as a side note, ive always thought Azarenka must of been watching Sharapova play when Azarenka was growing up, because her yelp sounds like a copy of Sharapova's yelp).

Sharapova, no question, hits harder, flatter, and with less margin for error. Azarenka has superior fitness and foot speed, but her serve (compared to pre-shoulder collapsed sharapova) is not even in the same league.

But above all the biggest thing I believe Sharapova does better, and something she has always done better, slump or not, is that she has a stronger fighting spirit and more willpower than Azarenka. Do you see Azarenka withstanding the mental pressure of a situation like the 2004 Wimbledon Final? I personally dont, and think that she does not innately have that killer instinct like sharapova naturally has.

Volcana
May 7th, 2011, 01:59 AM
....because she can do more on te court than Maria.

Thoughts?No. Not greater. Can't do more on court.

Sp!ffy
May 7th, 2011, 02:42 AM
This is ridiculous as for the score... and I wonder in which hat you pulled that 6-1 6-1 rabbit from... :rolleyes: Victoria hasn't played a half of the quarter of her very best... and both have never faced at their very best... how do you even know what peak Vika looks like !!?

In Dubaï 2010 peak Vee wasn't even abled to bagel or breadstick Victoria even with her Karlovic serve... and I'm sure if I say peak Vee >>> peak Maria everyone would agree... so if by principle peak Vee can't even astonish a 70% Victoria so I wonder from which principle you're able to base your statement.

Thanks for having participated in the discussion anyways.
Vikapower! :speakles: I thought you were a devoted Masha fan. I'm disgusted. :tape:

Pops Maellard
May 7th, 2011, 06:50 AM
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m142/AJB4/MariaSharapovaVSMelanieOudin17_18wwwkeepvidcomflv0 000.gif

No.

Tennisation
May 7th, 2011, 07:01 AM
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m142/AJB4/MariaSharapovaVSMelanieOudin17_18wwwkeepvidcomflv0 000.gif

No.Really? Ya couldn't find a better gif to set your case than a Pova losing to Oudin? :tape:

Monzanator
May 7th, 2011, 07:41 AM
What did Oudin achieve since her 2009 USO run? :shrug: Yep, I thought so too... Next!!!

goldlion
May 7th, 2011, 07:47 AM
Maria was/is more gutsy while Vika can be shit on a bad day.

KBlade
May 7th, 2011, 08:03 AM
Azarenka definitely has a huge amount of potential, and I do think she has a good shot at winning GS someday (which is ALOT more than I can say of most other girls her age) but I really fail to see the resemblance in their games minus their similar yelps when hitting the ball (as a side note, ive always thought Azarenka must of been watching Sharapova play when Azarenka was growing up, because her yelp sounds like a copy of Sharapova's yelp).

Sharapova, no question, hits harder, flatter, and with less margin for error. Azarenka has superior fitness and foot speed, but her serve (compared to pre-shoulder collapsed sharapova) is not even in the same league.

But above all the biggest thing I believe Sharapova does better, and something she has always done better, slump or not, is that she has a stronger fighting spirit and more willpower than Azarenka. Do you see Azarenka withstanding the mental pressure of a situation like the 2004 Wimbledon Final? I personally dont, and think that she does not innately have that killer instinct like sharapova naturally has.

I agree with most of your post, but this? Azarenka regularly racks up nearly the most retirements of any player on tour each year.

Sp!ffy
May 7th, 2011, 08:24 AM
*DEAD* at this thread
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/09/01/sports/tennis/01opencollapse/01opencollapse-blogSpan.jpg

cellophane
May 7th, 2011, 02:48 PM
And people are hating on Annabel Croft :hysteric:

Today she also said Li is known as one of the cleanest strikers on tour??? WTF?

sweetpeas
May 7th, 2011, 04:27 PM
Why do so people always want to compare other people? Maria is MARIA and Azarenka is Azarenka!That's all it is in a nutshell.No more no less.

Break My Rapture
May 7th, 2011, 04:28 PM
*DEAD* at this thread
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/09/01/sports/tennis/01opencollapse/01opencollapse-blogSpan.jpg
Don't go cry to the moderating board again when you get an insulting badrep. :happy: What a twerp you are, geez.

Monzanator
May 7th, 2011, 04:30 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l8yu0jYkfE1qdis1qo1_500.jpg

;)

Sp!ffy
May 7th, 2011, 04:38 PM
Don't go cry to the moderating board again when you get an insulting badrep. :happy: What a twerp you are, geez.

I didn't go to the mods to get young_gunner banned. I only posted it in the badrep thread so get your facts straight bitch. Besides, I only got goodreps for that post so seems no one really gives a shit about faintarenka.:inlove:

JCTennisFan
May 7th, 2011, 08:02 PM
I do believe that Azarenka has better fitness thank Sharapova. I just think she is mentally kinda frail, which is somewhat why she retires alot. Iirc she has retired alot because of the heat?? That just kinda seems, to me, like someone who is thinking "I dont wanna play when its so hot!" kind of almost like she gets distracted by things that she shouldnt, and she cant get her head off them. I think it just shows immaturity on her part, but thats ok, she still has a lot of time to improve in that department. She really kinda reminds me of early Zvonereva.

Crux Squall
May 7th, 2011, 09:13 PM
Why do so people always want to compare other people? Maria is MARIA and Azarenka is Azarenka!That's all it is in a nutshell.No more no less.

+1

vozas
May 13th, 2011, 04:15 PM
Azarenka is not anywhere near the league of the greats. She has a LONG way to go til she can be mentioned alongside people like the sisters, Henin, Sharapova and Kim. God I MISS those days. Maria is nowhere near her 2004 or 2008 level, but please... Azarenka has nothing on her.

debopero
May 13th, 2011, 04:41 PM
And people are hating on Annabel Croft :hysteric:

Today she also said Li is known as one of the cleanest strikers on tour??? WTF?

She is.

cellophane
May 13th, 2011, 04:42 PM
Can't wait to see what Annabel is going to say tonight about this :oh:

Welcome1
May 13th, 2011, 05:10 PM
people like the sisters, Henin, Sharapova and Kim.

Oh, please ... What is Sharapova doing here?

The Witch-king
Sep 6th, 2013, 09:32 AM
I mean, did she lie?

GameSetJJ
Sep 6th, 2013, 09:35 AM
I mean, did she lie?

her serve is no where near as good as maria's and her clay court prowess is essentially non existent. other than that i see no lies.

bandabou
Sep 6th, 2013, 10:11 AM
Hmmm...in the meantime major tally since this comment: 2 for Vika, 1 for Masha..

Maria has the bigger game, but it can go off more quickly than Vika's. Vika is steadier and grittier than she's given credit for.

doomsday
Sep 6th, 2013, 10:23 AM
I mean, did she lie?

Ask this to Maria's career slam :rolls:


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bandabou
Sep 6th, 2013, 10:37 AM
The career slam, the career slam...:lol: is still 4 majors in 9 years. You guys are acting like it's a Serena-slam or something.

@danieln1
Sep 6th, 2013, 10:40 AM
The career slam, the career slam...:lol: is still 4 majors in 9 years. You guys are acting like it's a Serena-slam or something.

Career "Silver" Slam :oh:

Sombrerero loco
Sep 6th, 2013, 10:43 AM
vika will have more grand slams than pova when they both retire. she is easily the best player, just give her time

bandabou
Sep 6th, 2013, 10:46 AM
Career "Silver" Slam :oh:

of course...:lol: Just like Roger! :eek: While Nadal and Serena are the GOLDEN career slammers. :bounce:

Chrissie-fan
Sep 6th, 2013, 10:52 AM
Who knows? Vika has about half of Maria's career achievements at this point but time is on her side. So we'll see. Nothing we can do about it one way or the other anyway. As to how their games compare I'd say that there are some similarities but Maria has a bit more power and Vika defends much better which is why she is a tougher match-up for Serena. h2h I usually consider Vika vs Maria matches 50/50 and it all comes down to who can best execute on the day.

Pops Maellard
Sep 6th, 2013, 11:07 AM
This bump:
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7jcugKC5v1rb2mc1o1_500.gif

doomsday
Sep 6th, 2013, 11:22 AM
The career slam, the career slam...:lol: is still 4 majors in 9 years. You guys are acting like it's a Serena-slam or something.

Noone cares that Serena achieved this in 1 one year, at the end of the day it's a career slam just like Maria's one :wavey:

Comebacksova
Sep 6th, 2013, 11:25 AM
Noone cares that Serena achieved this in 1 one year, at the end of the day it's a career slam just like Maria's one :wavey:

Everyone knows what "Serena Slam" means. While "Silver Slam" or whatever you call is just nothing. Even "Sugarpova" is more famous than "Whatever Slam" your girl has. :wavey:

bodie
Sep 6th, 2013, 11:25 AM
i think she's a better player and is still improving and will win more slams than Masha in the end. not sure about a 'better version' though

Comebacksova
Sep 6th, 2013, 11:28 AM
i think she's a better player and is still improving and will win more slams than Masha in the end. not sure about a 'better version' though

Yep, she will last for a lot more years after Serena retires because look at the rest of the tour. I can't see anyone coming up to be the slam contender in the next few years. Hell, she might even complete her Calendar Slam soon.

bandabou
Sep 6th, 2013, 11:36 AM
Noone cares that Serena achieved this in 1 one year, at the end of the day it's a career slam just like Maria's one :wavey:

You mad, Dumbsy?! :lol: I guess Steffi's golden grand slam is equally impressive as Maria's career 'slam', huh?! :lol:

Never change, Doomsy. Always good for a laugh. :rolls:

doomsday
Sep 6th, 2013, 11:59 AM
You mad, Dumbsy?! :lol: I guess Steffi's golden grand slam is equally impressive as Maria's career 'slam', huh?! :lol:

Never change, Doomsy. Always good for a laugh. :rolls:

I'm just saying that's not what most ppl will remember and you know it.

TennisGhost
Sep 6th, 2013, 12:04 PM
Is there one thread in this board where people aren't fighting?

Chrissie-fan
Sep 6th, 2013, 12:12 PM
Is there one thread in this board where people aren't fighting?
Only the ones that aren't about Serena, Sharapova, Wozniacki or Azarenka. And the ones that aren't about Serena, Sharapova, Wozniacki or Azarenka usually end up being about Serena, Sharapova, Wozniacki or Azarenka. So I think that the answer is no. :)

chingching
Sep 6th, 2013, 12:15 PM
I think she's better but not a better version :shrug:

LUVMIRZA
Sep 6th, 2013, 12:16 PM
much much much better:inlove:

Wilson_07
Sep 6th, 2013, 12:16 PM
Why does every player have to be a 'version' of another player? They are two different players and both are the best current players, next to Serena Williams. When they are on, I think they are all at least one step ahead of their competition.

bandabou
Sep 6th, 2013, 12:17 PM
I'm just saying that's not what most ppl will remember and you know it.

About whom? About Sharapova or about Graf/Serena?! :confused:

MMJSL
Sep 6th, 2013, 12:47 PM
Noone cares that Serena achieved this in 1 one year, at the end of the day it's a career slam just like Maria's one :wavey:

Let's not get crazy. YES Maria has a career slam but there's a reason why Serena is a GOAT contender and Maria isn't even in the conversation.

bandabou
Sep 6th, 2013, 01:06 PM
Let's not get crazy. YES Maria has a career slam but there's a reason why Serena is a GOAT contender and Maria isn't even in the conversation.

I mean...:lol: Only in Dumbsy's mind. :lol:

Sam L
Sep 6th, 2013, 02:39 PM
Noone cares that Serena achieved this in 1 one year, at the end of the day it's a career slam just like Maria's one :wavey:
How is it "just like"? :lol: The Serena Slam is a non-calendar Grand Slam, it's not "just like" a career slam. If you're unfamiliar with the concept look it up on Wikipedia. Not only is it special but she is the last player, male or female, to win the Grand Slam, calendar or non-calendar. I know you're pissed off but at least try not to look so bitter.

Volcana
Sep 6th, 2013, 03:10 PM
A better version of Sharapova NOW. Not better than 2006 Sharapova.

Jimmie48
Sep 6th, 2013, 03:12 PM
Looking back, the fact that Sharapova's four slam wins are spread out over eight years (!) makes the career slam much less impressive than it initially sounds.

Especially if you take a closer look a the draw she needed to win RG.

Chrissie-fan
Sep 6th, 2013, 03:26 PM
Looking back, the fact that Sharapova's four slam wins are spread out over eight years (!) makes the career slam much less impressive than it initially sounds.

I don't think so. It illustrates her longevity which can only be a good thing. But ok, if it's not impressive enough for you, so be it.

Jimmie48
Sep 6th, 2013, 03:29 PM
I'm not saying it's not impressive, it's obviously something that 99,5% of all professional tennis players will never been able to even get close to.

But if you look at how many slams Serena has won in the same duration it simply is less impressive. That is Sharapova's problem pretty much, she had a impressive career but is surrounded by people who have had even more impressive careers or are getting there.

madmax
Sep 6th, 2013, 03:30 PM
A better version of Sharapova NOW. Not better than 2006 Sharapova.

how is she better now when she lost the last two matches and was ranked below Maria before her shoulder issues? And let's not even start with 2004-2008 version of young Pova here, who would humiliate Vuvurenka on every surface anyway

doomsday
Sep 6th, 2013, 03:31 PM
How is it "just like"? :lol: The Serena Slam is a non-calendar Grand Slam, it's not "just like" a career slam. If you're unfamiliar with the concept look it up on Wikipedia. Not only is it special but she is the last player, male or female, to win the Grand Slam, calendar or non-calendar. I know you're pissed off but at least try not to look so bitter.

And Maria is the last player to have completed the career slam and at the same time overshadowed Serena's one.
She will probably remain the last one for a very long time.
I remember Carillo saying to Maria that she could start talking in the WTA40 party cause she was the last player to have completed the career slam. Stay pressed though.

Alexandros
Sep 6th, 2013, 03:35 PM
It's freaking Mary Carillo. What value does her opinion have? She'd drink Sharapova's pee the rest of her life if given the opportunity.

on topic: I think Sharapova during her prime was a faster and better player. She was tenacious.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Sep 6th, 2013, 03:37 PM
IIt illustrates her longevity ...

It would've if she was winning a slam or two somewhat regularly, like say Goolagong or Boris Becker. The sporadic nature of her wins just highlights how dependent she is on the draws to open up and all the stars to align. Kind of like Kuznetsova, except she managed to clinch an extra opportunity or two.

doomsday
Sep 6th, 2013, 03:49 PM
It would've if she was winning a slam or two somewhat regularly, like say Goolagong or Boris Becker. The sporadic nature of her wins just highlights how dependent she is on the draws to open up and all the stars to align. Kind of like Kuznetsova

A win over Serena in 2004 Wimbledon, the double defending champ at Wimbledon.
A win over Henin in 2006 US final, the best player on Tour from 2003-2008 and another win over Henin in QF 2008 to win OZ, I'd hardly call this taking advantage of the draws but keep on keeping on and act like all her wins were as easy as RG 12. :lol:

dsanders06
Sep 6th, 2013, 03:49 PM
on topic: I think Sharapova during her prime was a faster ... player.

Even I know this is a lie :sobbing:

melodynelson
Sep 6th, 2013, 03:59 PM
Sharapova retrieved a lot of balls from 2004-2006, her movement was never such a major weakness, only against Serena, sometimes Amelie, and the Belgians could that be exposed to any extent. She reached things quite well, not to mention if she had a break point against her she would serve an ace anyway. She never had the net skills Azarenka possesses, but she would come to net and swing away drive volleys all day too. Sharapova was a beast, one of the most ruthless players I've ever seen. Azarenka is a bit like a tenacious, rabid dog now, it's true, but she's still nowhere near peak Sharapova's league.

But I wouldn't be surprised if she ended up with the better career, given who her competition is.

Couver
Sep 6th, 2013, 03:59 PM
And Maria is the last player to have completed the career slam and at the same time overshadowed Serena's one.
She will probably remain the last one for a very long time.
I remember Carillo saying to Maria that she could start talking in the WTA40 party cause she was the last player to have completed the career slam. Stay pressed though.

She's won't. Serena just completed it a second time with her RG win.

Serenita
Sep 6th, 2013, 04:02 PM
how is she better now when she lost the last two matches and was ranked below Maria before her shoulder issues? And let's not even start with 2004-2008 version of young Pova here, who would humiliate Vuvurenka on every surface anyway
Predictable....... :lol:

Loveangelnr1
Sep 6th, 2013, 04:06 PM
And Maria is the last player to have completed the career slam and at the same time overshadowed Serena's one. She will probably remain the last one for a very long time.
I remember Carillo saying to Maria that she could start talking in the WTA40 party cause she was the last player to have completed the career slam. Stay pressed though.

WTF???? That shit is crazy as hell :smash: Serena answered with a Double Golden Slam and Maria hasn't been the same since. Talk about being in a Pova Bubble :devil: LMAO

madmax
Sep 6th, 2013, 04:07 PM
Predictable....... :lol:

so you're saying she's not injured now?:confused:

Cosmic Voices
Sep 6th, 2013, 04:10 PM
It would've if she was winning a slam or two somewhat regularly, like say Goolagong or Boris Becker. The sporadic nature of her wins just highlights how dependent she is on the draws to open up and all the stars to align. Kind of like Kuznetsova, except she managed to clinch an extra opportunity or two.

Sorry Brad but your that obsessed with Martha that you're beginning to spout bs on a constant basis. Relying on the draw opening up right? The draw opened up for Roland Garros ofc, the stars aligned because all emphasis was on Serena, but lets analyse Vika's AO 13 title which people keep putting great emphasis on because she defended a slam. How many top 10 opponents did she have to face?

SymphonyX
Sep 6th, 2013, 04:13 PM
No. The differences are subtle, but Azarenka is not in the same league a purely aggressive power player as Sharapova. Azarenka can play aggressive power tennis, but her game is more in the mould of Dementieva (rock solid baselining with deep returns). She will push you back until she finds an open angle and attacks that angle.

Sharapova on the other hand is merciless and will stubbornly drill the opponent regardless of their position until they can no longer keep up or she will make a laser-like attempt at the lines, which she frequented earlier in her career. If Sharapova's accuracy is on, she can go around and bully Azarenka. See their last match at the YEC. However, Azarenka can play first-strike tennis better since she's a more natural athlete. But first strike tennis is also inherently a part of Sharapova's game, and that's where problems arise for Sharapova. Azarenka can put her on the backfoot first and then push her back with deep groundstrokes until the court is wide.

Azarenka's more primarily a grinder and secondarily an aggressive power player. Sharapova's all aggressive power play -- she's the Ballbasher in Chief. I still don't think it's the same. That's like comparing Radwanska and Wozniacki and saying one is a better version of the other, although both are primarily counterpunchers.

LindsayRulz
Sep 6th, 2013, 04:33 PM
And Maria is the last player to have completed the career slam and at the same time overshadowed Serena's one.
She will probably remain the last one for a very long time.
I remember Carillo saying to Maria that she could start talking in the WTA40 party cause she was the last player to have completed the career slam. Stay pressed though.

:facepalm: Nobody ever mentionned Maria's career slam after the Olympics beatdown, all eyes were on Lord after her immaculate summer winning two slams + 2 OG. Now that's what I call overshadowing someone's achievement.

And how is talking first in the WTA40 party relevant? :lol:

rnwerner
Sep 6th, 2013, 04:40 PM
I just dont understand why experts always have to compare players.

It's more like both are eastern european and both are very loud on court...

But their technique, gamestyle, tactics and serve is different. Azarenka is so much better in defense while Sharapova can hit harder and can serve harder (1st serve). Sharapova risks a lot more with her shots while Azarenka moves better.

MrSerenaWilliams
Sep 6th, 2013, 04:47 PM
I just dont understand why experts always have to compare players.

It's more like both are eastern european and both are very loud on court...

But their technique, gamestyle, tactics and serve is different. Azarenka is so much better in defense while Sharapova can hit harder and can serve harder (1st serve). Sharapova risks a lot more with her shots while Azarenka moves better.

Every word of this.

dsanders06
Sep 6th, 2013, 05:08 PM
Sharapova retrieved a lot of balls from 2004-2006, her movement was never such a major weakness, only against Serena, sometimes Amelie, and the Belgians could that be exposed to any extent. She reached things quite well, not to mention if she had a break point against her she would serve an ace anyway. She never had the net skills Azarenka possesses, but she would come to net and swing away drive volleys all day too. Sharapova was a beast, one of the most ruthless players I've ever seen. Azarenka is a bit like a tenacious, rabid dog now, it's true, but she's still nowhere near peak Sharapova's league.

But I wouldn't be surprised if she ended up with the better career, given who her competition is.

I certainly agree Maria is a better player due to the gulf in their offensive abilities, but I don't agree with the first sentence (assuming you were comparing her to Azarenka).

I do think in terms of raw footspeed, Maria is quicker than she's given credit for.... if she were competing in a 100m sprint against Davenport (in her 20s) and Azarenka, I think she would clearly beat out Lindsay and come in about equal with Azarenka. The main problem for Maria defensively is that she's terrible at changing directions. If you send her into one corner, Maria might (unexpectedly) be able to sprint right across the baseline and get that first shot, but then all it takes is to send a decent-paced shot into the opposite corner on the next shot and Maria's toast because she takes so long to get back on balance and set off in the other direction. Azarenka on the other hand, even though I do think she's not much quicker from A to B than Maria if at all, is much more nimble and can recover her positioning when she's been pushed out wide much quicker. Plus on top of that she has better court sense than Maria and plays smarter shots on the defensive.

melodynelson
Sep 6th, 2013, 05:11 PM
I wasn't comparing her to Azarenka. I stated in general she isn't that slow or that bad, and only a few elite players could expose it at her best level in the past. Even today, with the majority of defensive and underpowered players we have now, not many people can make Sharapova look like a buffoon when running. It's certainly possible, but it would take someone playing an extremely high level of tennis to do that. Especially in the last years, not her peak even, she was returning so many shots, especially on clay, that I wouldn't have thought she had in her to retrieve. Her defensive skills were never so bad, although yes, Azarenka's, especially in terms of "nimbleness" are better.

GOyoungUSA
Sep 6th, 2013, 05:18 PM
I definitely agree with Sam smith.

just as sharapova was the pinnacle of the academy robot power ball bashing game of the early-mid 00s that fit the medium-slow/fast courts of the time, azarenka is the pinnacle of the modern academy robot power grinding game that fits the slow courts of today's game (late 00s-current).

azarenka is sharapova 2.0

$uricate
Sep 6th, 2013, 05:32 PM
It's completely true.

Azarenka is far superior to Maria. Even during her prime.

Maria completely fluked her way to the career slam., it's a well established fact.

Also Maria has never defended a slam, which is the greatest career achievement. All the tennis experts on WTAWorld know it's true ;)

Not to mention nobody even cares about her now that she's out of the picture :lol:

It's not like there are pathetic haters pouncing on everything Maria related. She's irrelevant these days.

C. Drone
Sep 6th, 2013, 05:41 PM
I just dont understand why experts always have to compare players.

It's more like both are eastern european and both are very loud on court...

But their technique, gamestyle, tactics and serve is different. Azarenka is so much better in defense while Sharapova can hit harder and can serve harder (1st serve). Sharapova risks a lot more with her shots while Azarenka moves better.

Its sexism. Quite pathetic.