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Lin Lin
May 3rd, 2011, 02:25 AM
They both are so great:worship:

Stonerpova
May 3rd, 2011, 02:29 AM
Serena. She is untouchable at her best.

3 US Opens, 5 Australian Opens > 3 US, 1 Australian

In The Zone
May 3rd, 2011, 02:31 AM
Serena Williams hands down. The head to head says it all.

AcesHigh
May 3rd, 2011, 02:32 AM
Enough of these threads!!!!

Serena, no contest

danieln1
May 3rd, 2011, 02:40 AM
8>> 4

Kimberly only excelled because in 05, faced Pierce in the final, 09 1st slam finalist Karolina and that robbed SF, 10 faced Vera Zvonareva in the final, enough said, and in Australia first time finalist nervous li na

Serena had to face much tougher competition, showing she's CLEARLY the better HC and overall player

rimon
May 3rd, 2011, 02:47 AM
Lo, why are so many people copying me? Anyway, Kim on US hardcourts, Serena overall.

In The Zone
May 3rd, 2011, 02:51 AM
Lo, why are so many people copying me? Anyway, Kim on US hardcourts, Serena overall.

How can you say on US hardcourts?

Do you not remember the "CALL"? Do you not remember the foot fault?

Serena would have won the 2004 US Open EASILY. Not only was the CALL ridiculous, there were several other calls.

Let's get real. Serena Williams >>>> anyone on this tour right now.

rimon
May 3rd, 2011, 02:59 AM
How can you say on US hardcourts?

Do you not remember the "CALL"? Do you not remember the foot fault?

Serena would have won the 2004 US Open EASILY. Not only was the CALL ridiculous, there were several other calls.

Let's get real. Serena Williams >>>> anyone on this tour right now.

There is no evidence that the foot fault was a bad call. :confused: How do you know that she didn't foot fault? Yes, I remember 2004, but IIRC, Jennifer had just won the second set, fair and square. There is no evidence to say that if not for the calls, she wouldn't have won.

brickhousesupporter
May 3rd, 2011, 03:10 AM
Lo, why are so many people copying me? Anyway, Kim on US hardcourts, Serena overall.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Miami and Indian Wells considered US Hardcouts. Last time I checked, Serena has 5 and 2 of those respectively.

Pops Maellard
May 3rd, 2011, 03:23 AM
This has been done before, and the answer is still Serena.

cellophane
May 3rd, 2011, 03:27 AM
Kim on US hardcourts, Serena in Australia. And mods should seriously delete these threads. :o

Mistress of Evil
May 3rd, 2011, 03:29 AM
Lin Lin :awww: if it was another poster creating this thread I would have badrepped him :lol: but cant bring myself to do it to you :hug:

BlueTrees
May 3rd, 2011, 03:30 AM
Well, the answer is Serena, quite frankly. But Clijsters' 2005, (didn't play 2006-2008) 2009 and 2010 US hardcourt level was probably better than Serena's. You can't ignore the fact that there's a lot of hardcourt events leading up to the US Open which Serena either skips or loses in. But then you look at the Australian Open...and that settles the deal.

Smitten
May 3rd, 2011, 03:46 AM
Serena on any hardcourt. :lol: Ridiculous thread.

justineheninfan
May 3rd, 2011, 06:37 AM
Serena by far overall. Her record on Australian hard courts pushes her far beyond Kim, even if Kim has done as well or better on all other hard courts. I would take Serena even on U.S hard courts though. Even if her record isnt neccessarily better both at their best Serena would definitely win.

Soliloque
May 3rd, 2011, 07:11 AM
8>> 4

Kimberly only excelled because in 05, faced Pierce in the final, 09 1st slam finalist Karolina and that robbed SF, 10 faced Vera Zvonareva in the final, enough said, and in Australia first time finalist nervous li na

Serena had to face much tougher competition, showing she's CLEARLY the better HC and overall player

:rolleyes: Cause the final was the only match she played. She has beaten 2 times USO champ Venus and world number one Sharapova in 2005, Venus once again and Serena (who was holding 3 slams) in 2009 and Venus again in 2011. Let's try to remember that a GS win is 7 matches and that it's not Kim fault if she was each time in the same half that the Williams. So stop bringing the "weak finalist" argument.



Anyway, Serena is best hardcourt player overall (except in New York where Kim is better I think).

TheHangover
May 3rd, 2011, 07:26 AM
this is easy

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 3rd, 2011, 11:26 AM
The only person greater than Serena on HC in the open era is Steffi Graf.

Banditoo
May 3rd, 2011, 11:29 AM
hah,Serena. It`s too easy. :)

Ashi
May 3rd, 2011, 11:34 AM
Serena won the USO99 at age 17? by beating Matina Hingis. Enough said.

Soliloque
May 3rd, 2011, 11:51 AM
Serena won the USO99 at age 17? by beating Matina Hingis. Enough said.

That is not enough said as Serena almost lost that year to 16 yo Kim Clijsters in the third round. Serena is better because she won 8 GS title, not just this one.

Ashi
May 3rd, 2011, 12:08 PM
Sure. Her record after this win has been expounded in other posts or do i have to repeat it again?

Winning this was a huge achievement. It was the start, I personally think it counts for a lot. :)

bandabou
May 3rd, 2011, 12:36 PM
5 Oz opens, 5 Miami's, 2 IW, 2 U.S. opens..really it doesn't get much better than this.

Kim's no slouch, but Serena is Serena.

Soliloque
May 3rd, 2011, 12:47 PM
5 Oz opens, 5 Miami's, 2 IW, 2 U.S. opens..really it doesn't get much better than this.

Kim's no slouch, but Serena is Serena.

Serena has won 3 US Open titles.

bandabou
May 3rd, 2011, 01:05 PM
Serena has won 3 US Open titles.

Indeed...really guys we're talking Graf-like numbers on hardcourts. Kimmy is good, great even..but Serena can only be compared with the Navratilova's and Graf's of this world right now.

BuTtErFrEnA
May 3rd, 2011, 02:50 PM
give me more trophies :lol:

spartanfan
May 3rd, 2011, 03:40 PM
I'd especially like to highlight Serena's two wins in IW, the first one was at the age of 17 where she beat Graf in the finals for only her second tour title! Her second title at IW was against K. Clijsters in that infamous final where she was booed by the "Amerikkkan" crowd from the time she stepped out on court for the warm up to the time she lifted the trophy high above her head. And what is there head to head again on hard -court? Let's not even get into AO titles or Miami titles.