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Hian
May 2nd, 2011, 01:15 PM
Rome queen lost to NaNa Li in the first round of Madrid, losing 900 points coming from the win in Italy.
She will be out of Top 80. Too good she's no more in Top 30, but she cannot be compared to Voracova and other ITF players :o
Discuss.

doomsday
May 2nd, 2011, 01:19 PM
She still has Rome to come back in top 30.

Curcubeu
May 2nd, 2011, 01:20 PM
Wasn't she injured in the middle of last year? So not that surprising if more than half of your points are from one tournament... :shrug:

Because of the new system real slumps or injury breaks become only then visible if you actually come back to old strength again... :o

AndreConrad
May 2nd, 2011, 01:20 PM
Isn't she playing Rome? She very well may be out of to 80, but I would not write her off until she loses points from Rome. I am quite confused with the change of schedules between Rome and Madrid and when which points come of.

BepaMaria
May 2nd, 2011, 01:21 PM
Well it's really where she should be ranked :shrug:. Her Rome title was a fluke and I'm glad that she is finally back where she belongs.

Hian
May 2nd, 2011, 01:21 PM
I doubt she will win Rome again if she cannot defeat Li on clay.

SVK
May 2nd, 2011, 01:24 PM
Rome queen lost to NaNa Li in the first round of Madrid, losing 1000 points coming from the win in Italy.
She will be out of Top 80. Too good she's no more in Top 30, but she cannot be compared to Voracova and other ITF players :o
Discuss.

Well, Voracova will also fall out of TOP 100, her 25k titles are coming off:p

AndreConrad
May 2nd, 2011, 01:25 PM
I doubt she will win Rome again if she cannot defeat Li on clay. She doesn't have to win it, but that doesn't mean she has to lose all of her points and come out with zero :shrug:

Wert.
May 2nd, 2011, 01:25 PM
She doesnt deserve to be out of TOP 80...Maybe real ranking is about 40-60

Curcubeu
May 2nd, 2011, 01:25 PM
Isn't she playing Rome? She very well may be out of to 80, but I would not write her off until she loses points from Rome. I am quite confused with the change of schedules between Rome and Madrid and when which points come of.

Rome points are coming of that week because it changed weeks with Madrid. :)

Curcubeu
May 2nd, 2011, 01:27 PM
Still no player I want to have as a seed in a first round match up at RG... :scared:

iGOAT
May 2nd, 2011, 01:28 PM
MADRID is worth 1000 points. ROME is NOT. Once again, Hian FAILS.

M.P
May 2nd, 2011, 01:31 PM
Rome is 900 pts :p

nevetssllim
May 2nd, 2011, 01:31 PM
MADRID is worth 1000 points. ROME is NOT. Once again, Hian FAILS.

Check TBE's ranking thread. She is going to be No.80 when her points fall off next week.

Having said that, it's not as bad as it sounds because the 40-85 range is tightly bunched. A win at a 'MM' event will probably push her back into the mid-50s.

Curcubeu
May 2nd, 2011, 01:34 PM
She will "only" lose 900 points! ;)

AndreConrad
May 2nd, 2011, 01:34 PM
Check TBE's ranking thread. She is going to be No.80 when her points fall off next week.

Having said that, it's not as bad as it sounds because the 40-85 range is tightly bunched. A win at a 'MM' event will probably push her back into the mid-50s.
Yes it is true, but this is only because it seems like points from both tournaments (Rome and Madrid) come off at this same time which is stupid. Their schedules changed, but the points expiration only half way. She can very quickly make up quite a few points next week in Rome.

Lisickinator
May 2nd, 2011, 01:36 PM
Yes it is true, but this is only because it seems like points from both tournaments (Rome and Madrid) come off at this same time which is stupid. Their schedules changed, but the points expiration only half way. She can very quickly make up quite a few points next week in Rome.
Madrid points should come off in two weeks.

AndreConrad
May 2nd, 2011, 01:39 PM
Madrid points should come off in two weeks.
I guess I was still a little confused :lol:, nonetheless she still has a chance to gain points in Rome to make up all or part of the loss.

Curcubeu
May 2nd, 2011, 01:41 PM
Yeah, she has nothing to defend at RG! Lost to Ammanmuradova in R1 last year... :spit:

Monica_Rules
May 2nd, 2011, 01:41 PM
SHe'll soon be back top 50

TS
May 2nd, 2011, 01:43 PM
MADRID is worth 1000 points. ROME is NOT. Once again, Hian FAILS.

Rome is worth 900 points. Pretty close.

Can't believe one single tournament can keep someone's ranking afloat like that (oh, my bad, hello Pironkova). Falling to no.80 is madness, but I guess she was out injured for a fair while...

Not a big fan, but it's clear she belongs in the top 30-40 or thereabouts, so I expect to see her back there at some point.

Hian
May 2nd, 2011, 01:56 PM
MADRID is worth 1000 points. ROME is NOT. Once again, Hian FAILS.

100 points of difference aren't a lot. The sense is the same, I'm sorry for you.
And, differently from you, I don't spend my time on points and rankings. Get a life :wavey:

propi
May 2nd, 2011, 02:23 PM
She has nothing to defend and if she doesn't get injured as last year she may play the post WImbledon Euro clay season, semis in Moscow and Q in Eastbourne, she will end the season inside top 50 for sure :yeah:
Look at Anabel how quickly she has come back to a more decent ranking :yeah:

And about her victory in Rome being a fluke... well when you defeat Francesca, Wozniacki, Safarova, Ivanovic and Jankovic to grab a title you pretty much won it by your own, not by any kind of luck... heck some GS winners didn't have such a hard path!!! :worship:

Daruma.
May 2nd, 2011, 02:34 PM
Yeah, she has nothing to defend at RG! Lost to Ammanmuradova in R1 last year... :spit:

I don't see any reason to :spit:. She got injured badly during the warm-up and couldn't even serve properly(underarm serve). Before RG, she was in a great form, had won Rome and lost to Stosur in a very competitive match. If she had not got injured, she would have, in my opinion, gone quite deep in the draw.

Do not forget that Mariajo has taken sets off Serena and Safina -not sure about Safina-, so she may surprise us all with a deep run in Rome again, and in Roland Garros and come back to where she belongs. But she SHOULD NOT PLAY LIKE TODAY if she wants to do so.

Vaxey
May 2nd, 2011, 02:36 PM
Well it's really where she should be ranked :shrug:. Her Rome title was a fluke and I'm glad that she is finally back where she belongs.

Did you saw how she played in Rome? That was great tournament for her and she played great. She should be in top30 soon.

tennisforadults
May 2nd, 2011, 02:43 PM
I don't spend my time on points and rankings. Get a life :wavey:

Really? :lol: What's this thread all about? :lol:

RenaSlam.
May 2nd, 2011, 02:44 PM
Sorry I'm not sorry.

colt13
May 2nd, 2011, 02:45 PM
She doesnt deserve to be out of TOP 80...Maybe real ranking is about 40-60

As long as she stays healthy, that is easily reachable. As others have mentioned, due to her injuries, she didn't play Wimbledon last year. In fact, she will only have 231 points to defend up through the US Open, and 486 for the rest of the year.

Juju Nostalgique
May 2nd, 2011, 03:00 PM
AMG! Only 900 points and so many spots! :speakles: :speakles: :speakles: :speakles: :speakles:

AMG! :oh:

Hian
May 2nd, 2011, 03:08 PM
Really? :lol: What's this thread all about? :lol:

You cannot be serious. I just saw TBE's ranking and I saw she's out of Top 80, and that's a shocking thing.

danieln1
May 2nd, 2011, 03:11 PM
She was never that good to begin with... top 30 a bit overranked for her

Mistress of Evil
May 2nd, 2011, 03:13 PM
I dislike her big time :oh: but poor girl :awww:

Shvedbarilescu
May 2nd, 2011, 03:30 PM
MJMS isn't playing anything like as well as she was last year, and that's a shame. She got to where she got to because she deserved it. She's easily played top 30 standard tennis for the period between RG 2009 and RG 2010.

As for being out of the top 80 now well what can one say? It is a combination of not playing as well as she was last year and the fact that she was injured throughout last summer and consquently earned virtually no points during that period. I'm realistic. I know Maria Jose is not getting any younger and right now it is very clear she doesn't have the confidence in her shots she did last year or the year before. She is making way more errors than she did last year. Still when her shots click she can do some very special amazing things. It's just that sadly those points are less frequent these days.

However even so, Pepa is better than 80 in the rankings. And with only 120 points to defend prior to the US Open I am confident that while Pepa's days as a top 30 player might indeed be over, she will soon be gracing the top 50 once again. And I certainly hope that once back in the top 50 she will be there for several years to come. She brings something very different to tennis which we longer see a lot of anymore and as such she is a huge asset to the game.

FORZA SARITA
May 2nd, 2011, 03:42 PM
wow down to 80 :eek: and there are players like LDL in top50 :facepalm::weirdo:

Vikapower
May 2nd, 2011, 03:43 PM
This is just the start of the cleaning up in the rankings... Schiavone, Pironkova... Will in through the same hustle.

FORZA SARITA
May 2nd, 2011, 03:45 PM
This is just the start of the cleaning up in the rankings... Schiavone, Pironkova... Will in through the same hustle.

keep wishing :lol:

Valanga
May 2nd, 2011, 03:58 PM
I am surprised a Journeywoman like Voracova can be top 100.

Curcubeu
May 2nd, 2011, 04:00 PM
I don't see any reason to :spit:. She got injured badly during the warm-up and couldn't even serve properly(underarm serve). Before RG, she was in a great form, had won Rome and lost to Stosur in a very competitive match. If she had not got injured, she would have, in my opinion, gone quite deep in the draw.

Do not forget that Mariajo has taken sets off Serena and Safina -not sure about Safina-, so she may surprise us all with a deep run in Rome again, and in Roland Garros and come back to where she belongs. But she SHOULD NOT PLAY LIKE TODAY if she wants to do so.

Sorry, I didn't know that! I just saw the result... :o

chuvack
May 2nd, 2011, 05:01 PM
Anybody have any tight-jeans or scantily-clad pics of MariaJo? Her body is so sickenly hot...

Hian
May 2nd, 2011, 05:24 PM
wow down to 80 :eek: and there are players like LDL in top50 :facepalm::weirdo:

Lourdes is more consistent and, even if she has a worse game, I prefer her to the cheater.

FORZA SARITA
May 2nd, 2011, 05:28 PM
Lourdes is more consistent and, even if she has a worse game, I prefer her to the cheater.

better being a cheater than take drug :lol:

SVK
May 2nd, 2011, 05:38 PM
I am surprised a Journeywoman like Voracova can be top 100.

Thatīs probably because you can be TOP 100 purely with challenger success, and Voracova had stunning ITF results last year. Blame those players who stubbornly play just WTA events although they have just small chances to make good points there, not those who earned TOP 100 position with smart scheduling.

FORZA SARITA
May 2nd, 2011, 05:48 PM
Thatīs probably because you can be TOP 100 purely with challenger success, and Voracova had stunning ITF results last year. Blame those players who stubbornly play just WTA events although they have just small chances to make good points there, not those who earned TOP 100 position with smart scheduling.

ATP is even worse IMO, thare tons of players in top100 thanks only to challengers (Kamke,Ilhan,Volandri ect)

Curcubeu
May 2nd, 2011, 05:52 PM
ATP is even worse IMO, thare tons of players in top100 thanks only to challengers (Kamke,Ilhan,Volandri ect)

Exactly and they are changing ranking positions every week, so random... :spit:

Nothing can be compared to challenger king Haider-Maurer :oh:

Smitten
May 2nd, 2011, 05:54 PM
She was never that good to begin with... top 30 a bit overranked for her

Yep. She should be a top 50 player at best, but half the girls spaz when they see her hack shots.

SVK
May 2nd, 2011, 06:00 PM
ATP is even worse IMO, thare tons of players in top100 thanks only to challengers (Kamke,Ilhan,Volandri ect)

Yup, I remember Zeballos being 54th with just one ATP MD win.

Iīve read some comments and they were comparing Grandslam R2 or R3 with 30k challenger win. Donīt know if itīs true because I donīt know ATP points distribution but if itīs like that then we canīt be surprised that:
they are changing ranking positions every week, so random... :spit:


Nothing can be compared to challenger king Haider-Maurer :oh:

But Haider Maurer had ATP final I think and I was honestly surprised when I still saw him outside TOP 100 few weeks ago.

Curcubeu
May 2nd, 2011, 06:08 PM
Really? :weirdo:

He got humiliated by Copil in qualifiers and he is outside Top 200... :spit:

But HM is a real tournament whore. I think he is playing tournaments every week, 95% challengers... :lol:

Hian
May 2nd, 2011, 06:37 PM
Horacio :spit: