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Linguae^
Apr 28th, 2011, 04:56 PM
1. Serena Williams
2. Venus Williams
3. Justine Henin
4. Maria Sharapova
5. Kim Clijsters
6. Martina Hingis
7. Lindsay Davenport
8. Jennifer Capriati
9. Amelie Mauresmo
10. Ana Ivanovic
11. Anastasiya Myskina
12. Svetlana Kuznetsova
13. Mary Pierce
14. Jelena Jankovic
15. Dinara Safina
( Caroline not mentioned, she still has many years to prove )

So, how about his list? Is it the right and the best one for this topsy-turvy period?
It looks like a majestic 4th round draw, including Caroline as a wildcard :drool: )

bright
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:11 PM
Half of the list have doubtful relevance. Order couldn't get any more wrong.

RR-87
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:15 PM
this list is complete shit without Olympic Champ Dementieva :rolleyes:

Anabelcroft
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:16 PM
this list is complete shit without Olympic Champ Dementieva :rolleyes:

Have to agree...

JJ Expres
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:19 PM
this list is complete shit without Olympic Champ Dementieva :rolleyes:

instead of who?she can take maybe 14th or 15th spot instead jankovic or safina nothing more than that :shrug:

atominside
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:34 PM
dementieva is somewhere between 10-15

ElusiveChanteuse
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:50 PM
So Dinara >>> Lena & Francesca?:lol:

ElusiveChanteuse
Apr 28th, 2011, 05:51 PM
BTW, if the list is arranged based on how great they are, I suppose Kim >>> Maria in most aspects?:shrug: Even Martina is above Maria I think despite not playing much during the decade.

Rui.
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:05 PM
Did anyone win more matches than Dementieva in that space of time? :lol:

atominside
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:11 PM
BTW, if the list is arranged based on how great they are, I suppose Kim >>> Maria in most aspects?:shrug: Even Martina is above Maria I think despite not playing much during the decade.
Sharapova/Clijsters greatness needs debating. very tough.

Hian
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:31 PM
Where is Lena? And where is Caciotti?

Soliloque
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:52 PM
1 Serena Williams
2 Venus Williams
3 Justine Henin
4 Kim Clijsters
5 Maria Sharapova
6 Jennifer Capriati
7 Lindsay Davenport
8 Martina Hingis
9 Amelie Mauresmo
10 Mary Pierce
11 Svetlana Kuznetsova
12 Anastasia Myskina
13 Elena Dementieva
14 Ana Ivanovic
15 Dinara Safina

danieln1
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:57 PM
1. Serena Williams
2. Venus Williams
3. Justine Henin
4. Maria Sharapova
5. Kim Clijsters
6. Martina Hingis
7. Lindsay Davenport
8. Jennifer Capriati
9. Amelie Mauresmo
10. Ana Ivanovic
11. Anastasiya Myskina
12. Svetlana Kuznetsova
13. Mary Pierce
14. Jelena Jankovic
15. Dinara Safina
( Caroline not mentioned, she still has many years to prove )

So, how about his list? Is it the right and the best one for this topsy-turvy period?
It looks like a majestic 4th round draw, including Caroline as a wildcard :drool: )

Mary Pierce should be just below Ana and above the rest at #11....

Kuznetsova above Myskina for her 2 slams obviously, Dinara should be number 14, because she was number 1 and has more slam finals than Jankovic, and Caroline i think already deserves a place at 15, bumping Jelena to 16! :lol:

And obviously Mauresmo should be higher than Capriati....

And WTF MARTINA HINGIS is below Kimberly????? Martina is just miles ahead of talent and results wise please......

Miss Atomic Bomb
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:57 PM
Just based on how big their names are amongst the general people and media between 00-11?


1 Serena
2 Sharapova
3 Venus / Kournikova

5 Hingis
6 Henin
7 Clijsters

8 Ivanovic
9 Davenport/Capriati
11 Seles /pierce

13 Jankovic /Dementieva
15 Mauresmo

Stonerpova
Apr 28th, 2011, 07:07 PM
"Big names" is kind of an ambiguous term as well. I think if we're going by fame alone Sharapova is a bigger name than Henin and probably Clijsters too (I know I'm biased, but I still think it's true).

ptitnavet
Apr 28th, 2011, 07:56 PM
Just based on how big their names are amongst the general people and media between 00-11?


1 Serena
2 Sharapova
3 Venus / Kournikova

5 Hingis
6 Henin
7 Clijsters

8 Ivanovic
9 Davenport/Capriati
11 Seles /pierce

13 Jankovic /Dementieva
15 Mauresmo

Cool list :D

Richie's
Apr 28th, 2011, 08:01 PM
Daniela Hantuchova.

Potato
Apr 28th, 2011, 08:10 PM
What does "biggest names" mean? Does it mean recognizability? In that case I would put

1. Sharapova
2. Serena
3. Kournikova
4. Venus

5. Everyone else.

Seriously, outside of WS and the Russian Babes, if you don't watch tennis you won't know who any WTA player is.

QuietPlease
Apr 28th, 2011, 08:25 PM
Mary Pierce should be just below Ana and above the rest at #11....

Kuznetsova above Myskina for her 2 slams obviously, Dinara should be number 14, because she was number 1 and has more slam finals than Jankovic, and Caroline i think already deserves a place at 15, bumping Jelena to 16! :lol:

And obviously Mauresmo should be higher than Capriati....

And WTF MARTINA HINGIS is below Kimberly????? Martina is just miles ahead of talent and results wise please......

But Martina's biggest results came prior to 2000 (see topic name)

Capriati Rules
Apr 28th, 2011, 08:26 PM
Dementieva in Safina out...Capriati should go higher than Davenport and Hingis based on the time frame suggested...not that overall they aren't probably better champions but people forget they one a majority of their slams prior to 2000 and Capriati's comeback was major news in '01...Myskina should really be at 14...if she didn't win the French she wouldn't be close to making this list...Pierce could even go higher than Ivanovic

n1_and_uh_noone
Apr 28th, 2011, 08:55 PM
'Biggest names' has to account for their past obviously. Hingis was a big name no matter whether she was not as relevant in the 2000s. Similarly Seles. Capriati too, especially after the fairytale comeback. Clijsters was practically unknown until her win at the 2009 USO. Have to say Henin was a relative unknown too, despite being no.1 for so long etc. Davenport too.

Basically a highly marketable story: Serena/Venus rags to riches, Capriati overcoming the odds after troubled teens, Hingis a teenage prodigy+Spice Girls angle, Seles' sympathy votes after the stabbing, Sharapova an Americanized teen phenom with a massive game and model looks.

Like it or not, Henin's comparatively more tragic arc was not considered compelling, and her defying her stature and physical limitations never caught on because of her Europeanness. Clijsters became a darling after becoming a mom.

Can debate the positions of people like Ivanovic and Dementieva till the cows come home.

backhandsmash
Apr 28th, 2011, 09:03 PM
'Biggest names' has to account for their past obviously. Hingis was a big name no matter whether she was not as relevant in the 2000s. Similarly Seles. Capriati too, especially after the fairytale comeback. Clijsters was practically unknown until her win at the 2009 USO. Have to say Henin was a relative unknown too, despite being no.1 for so long etc. Davenport too.

Basically a highly marketable story: Serena/Venus rags to riches, Capriati overcoming the odds after troubled teens, Hingis a teenage prodigy+Spice Girls angle, Seles' sympathy votes after the stabbing, Sharapova an Americanized teen phenom with a massive game and model looks.

Like it or not, Henin's comparatively more tragic arc was not considered compelling, and her defying her stature and physical limitations never caught on because of her Europeanness. Clijsters became a darling after becoming a mom.

Can debate the positions of people like Ivanovic and Dementieva till the cows come home.


:yeah:

atominside
Apr 28th, 2011, 09:17 PM
Serena's more recognizable than maria

Linguae^
Apr 28th, 2011, 09:18 PM
RANDOM ORDER. Forgot to say. :facepalm:
It's just the road their names came to my mind when remembering, I've maybe forgotten some of them at the beginning, so I've put them at the end, which doesn't mean they are the worst. ( So it kinda looked like a real order, cause ofc, Williamses are the first to come into the mind when thinking about this question in thread)
And yes, I've thought about replacing Myskina with Dementieva, but eventually didn't.
I still find it a great list. If you are that interested in the order, you can mention yours. ;)

Cp6uja
Apr 28th, 2011, 09:41 PM
Anna Kournikova SERIOUSLY deserve to be mentioned on lists like this not because hers own big popularity, but thanks to giant influence of hers phenom on womens tennis promotion in Russia (and whole Eastern Europe actually) :shrug: Also, whatever we personally thinking about Caroline Wozniacki and her game - in just about last 12 months she probably already make more global attention than players like Myskina, Dementieva, Safina and Jankovic, and in some ways even than multiple slam winner Kuznetsova... so she also deserve spot into TOP15 there.

cellophane
Apr 28th, 2011, 09:42 PM
Serena's more recognizable than maria

Not worldwide. If you are going by who is most recognizable worldwide, Claypova would top the list.

Mistress of Evil
Apr 28th, 2011, 10:07 PM
Just based on how big their names are amongst the general people and media between 00-11?


1 Serena
2 Sharapova
3 Venus / Kournikova

5 Hingis
6 Henin
7 Clijsters

8 Ivanovic
9 Davenport/Capriati
11 Seles /pierce

13 Jankovic /Dementieva
15 Mauresmo

maybe just switched number 1 & 2 ;) Sharapova is a known all over the world and not only by tennis followers :shrug: Rena is also quite famous but I will give slightly advantage to Pova.

Cp6uja
Apr 28th, 2011, 10:09 PM
Not worldwide. If you are going by who is most recognizable worldwide, Claypova would top the list.maybe just switched number 1 & 2 ;) Sharapova is a known all over the world and not only by tennis followers :shrug: Rena is also quite famous but I will give slightly advantage to Pova.In 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003 Serena is true superstar and Sharapova is almost unknown junior, so for whole 2000-2011 period Serena should to take advantage anyway.

Mistress of Evil
Apr 28th, 2011, 10:15 PM
In 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003 Serena is true superstar and Sharapova is almost unknown junior, so for whole 2000-2011 Serena should to take advantage anyway.

your logic is interesting :lol: but what truly matters is how many people know who Sharapova is and they are more than the people who know who Rena is :shrug:

Soliloque
Apr 28th, 2011, 10:17 PM
'Biggest names' has to account for their past obviously. Hingis was a big name no matter whether she was not as relevant in the 2000s. Similarly Seles. Capriati too, especially after the fairytale comeback. Clijsters was practically unknown until her win at the 2009 USO. Have to say Henin was a relative unknown too, despite being no.1 for so long etc. Davenport too.

Basically a highly marketable story: Serena/Venus rags to riches, Capriati overcoming the odds after troubled teens, Hingis a teenage prodigy+Spice Girls angle, Seles' sympathy votes after the stabbing, Sharapova an Americanized teen phenom with a massive game and model looks.

Like it or not, Henin's comparatively more tragic arc was not considered compelling, and her defying her stature and physical limitations never caught on because of her Europeanness. Clijsters became a darling after becoming a mom.

Can debate the positions of people like Ivanovic and Dementieva till the cows come home.


:help:

Roookie
Apr 28th, 2011, 11:06 PM
1. Kournikova
2. The Williams Sisters
3. Sharapova
4. Hingis
5. Justine
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goldenlox
Apr 28th, 2011, 11:25 PM
Is it just star power?
I would go Kournikova #1 also.
If its a combination of star power & tennis superstardom, then Serena is #1
I dont know how you rank Dementieva, even Mirza(who I think well known by a lot of people).

Mynarco
Apr 28th, 2011, 11:40 PM
1. Kleybanova
2. Pavlyuchenkova


oh wait...

Potato
Apr 29th, 2011, 12:51 AM
In terms of popularity alone, Maria easily tops the list in terms of international appeal. :shrug:

Cherry.
Apr 29th, 2011, 02:22 AM
'Biggest names' has to account for their past obviously. Hingis was a big name no matter whether she was not as relevant in the 2000s. Similarly Seles. Capriati too, especially after the fairytale comeback. Clijsters was practically unknown until her win at the 2009 USO. Have to say Henin was a relative unknown too, despite being no.1 for so long etc. Davenport too.

Basically a highly marketable story: Serena/Venus rags to riches, Capriati overcoming the odds after troubled teens, Hingis a teenage prodigy+Spice Girls angle, Seles' sympathy votes after the stabbing, Sharapova an Americanized teen phenom with a massive game and model looks.

Like it or not, Henin's comparatively more tragic arc was not considered compelling, and her defying her stature and physical limitations never caught on because of her Europeanness. Clijsters became a darling after becoming a mom.

Can debate the positions of people like Ivanovic and Dementieva till the cows come home.

This.:yeah:

longtin23
Apr 29th, 2011, 02:27 AM
Li Na??

miffedmax
Apr 29th, 2011, 02:28 AM
Lena was a Top 10 fixture for the decade and won more matches than anybody else in that time frame, so I'd say yeah, even allowing for my insane fanaticism there's a pretty good argument she should be ranked. Plus she was insanely popular.

Justin SW
Apr 29th, 2011, 02:34 AM
1. Serena Williams (uncommon persona and off court activites + talent)
2. Maria Sharapova (hot and talented)
3. Anna Kournikova (wellll welll welll)
4. Martina Hingis (past accomplishment + return)
5. Venus Williams (...)
6. Jennifer Capriati (drugs)
7. Davenport (Great player + finals G.S + return)
8. Monica Seles (stabbing)
9. Justine Henin (Small)
10. Ana Ivanovic (Hot)
11. Amelie Mauresmo (Lesbian)
12. Kim Clijsters (Mommy)
13. Martina Navratilove (...)
14. Dinara Safina (Brother Marat)
15. Caroline Wozniacki (Pushniacki)

it-girl
Apr 29th, 2011, 03:30 AM
Venus Williams should be #2 only behind Serena. What people here do not realize is if you are not a huge tennis fan and do not follow the sport you will not know who a lot of these players are including Maria. But you have Venus Williams who has made history in more ways than one both on and off the court. By being what I would call an ambassador for the sport Venus's popularity has transcended just tennis worldwide. Standing up for equal prize money and refusing to defend her title if Peer could not play at Dubai was huge and was worldwide news not just sports news which reaches to a much, much larger audience.


That is why Venus has been getting endorsement deals with household staples like Tide & Nabisco. Because she is a crossover star not just a tennis star. Crossing over is hard because you can be a tennis star even a tennis "sex symbol" but that still does not mean that people will know who you are outside of the sport. I started watching tennis because of Venus & one day a show came on where a person could meet someone they were a fan of & this person was a huge tennis fan & wanted to meet Kournikova and I was like who in the world is that. I did not even know who she was but clearly she was well known in the tennis world. So when you make a list like this you have to consider the fact that a worldwide tennis audience is totally different from a worldwide audience and that is what this list is probably based on.

shoparound
Apr 29th, 2011, 03:55 AM
Serena/Venus/Sharapova/AnnaK are the most recognizable names in ALL of women's sports... In that order as well.

danieln1
Apr 29th, 2011, 04:07 AM
1. Kleybanova
2. Pavlyuchenkova


oh wait...

:oh:

:haha: :haha:

Bonfire
Apr 29th, 2011, 04:19 AM
1. Kournikova (definitely the household name of WTA)
2. Serena (who hasn't heard of Serena? tennis superstar)
3. Venus (even before Serena...the name Venus Williams was buzzing)
4. Sharapova (international star)
5. Capriati (the most famous "comeback kid" of sports)
6. Clijsters (mommy winning USO 09 took her to new level)
7. Henin (most successful non-Williams player during Williams sisters years)
8. Hingis (big personality and drug scandal kept her in the news after her peak)
9. Seles (even during this timeframe...stabbing tragedy still lingers in alot of people's conscious)
10. Mauresmo (out and proud lesbian..sign of changing times)

doktor
Apr 29th, 2011, 04:36 AM
i think if we're discussing how well known some of the names are Dokic has to be involved somewhere, although results wise she hasn't really made much of an impact she'll always be "that girl with the crazy dad?" to the general public and would have to be considered very well known

ElusiveChanteuse
Apr 29th, 2011, 05:04 AM
Oh so this thread is more about popularity of some sort?:p

I can be sure that Serena (or/and Venus), Kournikova and Sharapova are in the top 3.:cheer:

So Disrespectful
Apr 29th, 2011, 06:37 AM
I tend to agree with the first list, but with Dementieva in place of Myskina. I understand that Myskina won a slam, but Dementieva was around for much longer and her image was certainly out there just as much at the time when she made those two slam finals. I generally think she'll be more remembered than Myskina.

kaktusino
Apr 29th, 2011, 10:24 AM
1. Serena Williams
2. Venus Williams
3. Justine Henin
4. Kim Clijsters
5. Maria Sharapova
6. Jennifer Capriati
7. Lindsay Davenport
8. Martina Hingis
9. Amelie Mauresmo
10. Svetlana Kuznetsova
11. Mary Pierce
12. Monica Seles
13. Ana Ivanovic
14. Elena Dementieva
15. Jelena Jankovic

Wozniacki, Schiavone, Safina and Myskina are not mentioned.