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LeRoy.
Apr 11th, 2011, 08:26 PM
Madonna Tops List of Highest-Earning Tours of 2012, Bruce Springsteen places second in annual tally

Despite causing plenty of (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/russian-court-throws-out-suit-against-madonna-20121123) controversy (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/madonna-replaces-swastika-in-video-image-of-french-politician-20120823), Madonna's (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/madonna) MDNA tour was the top-grossing tour in 2012, according to Billboard (http://www.billboard.com/column/year-in-music-2012/top-25-tours-of-2012-1008051082.story#/column/year-in-music-2012/top-25-tours-of-2012-1008051082.story). The singer sold out each of her 72 tour dates since November 2011, and pulled in a total of $228.4 million. Bruce Springsteen (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/bruce-springsteen)and the E Street Band came in second, selling out 54 of 72 shows and earning $199.37 million. Springsteen, however, tallied 2.1 million in total attendance, about 500,000 more than Madonna's total. Roger Waters of Pink Floyd (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/pink-floyd) was next, making $186.46 million by selling out 51 of his 72 shows re-creating The Wall, and Cirque Du Soleil's Michael Jackson (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/michael-jackson): The Immortal World Tour followed with $147.3 million in total gross over 183 shows. Coldplay (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/coldplay)rounded out the top five with $147.1 million and 56 sell outs in 67 shows.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/madonna-tops-list-of-highest-earning-tours-of-2012-20121217#ixzz2FL6fRmx5

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Madonna :worship: Who cares about album sales when you can sell out stadiums ? :bowdown:

P.S. Lady Gaga with her BTW Ball came in at # 6 :oh:
After using her shows to make several pointed onstage remarks about Lady Gaga, too, Madonna will no doubt be pleased to see her rival down in sixth place in the list, after making $124 million (£76 million) – an added boon after it was reported earlier this week that Madonna concerts in South America outsell rival Lady Gaga by three to one, despite being three times as expensive.:oh: #Reductive
http://www.nme.in/madonnas-mdna-tour-named-highest-grossing-tour-of-2012/

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LeRoy.
Apr 11th, 2011, 08:48 PM
Girl, was that before or after the "OUCH" ? Also, as a little monster, do you think that was a genius attempt to show the world she can play the piano with her feet ? I think so because Momma monsta is cool like that....

New_balls_please
Apr 11th, 2011, 09:05 PM
sb77iHbGL6Q

I wish I had half of the free time you apparently have :worship:

LeRoy.
Apr 11th, 2011, 09:10 PM
Yet i have fewer posts than both of you. :awww: FAIL ?

Like Momma Like Fans ?

LeRoy.
Apr 11th, 2011, 09:20 PM
Michelle, what happened to Born This Way (C U N T ry version) ? Like Momma Monsta did it fall off (the iTunes top 100) already ? FAIL again ?

New_balls_please
Apr 11th, 2011, 09:29 PM
Yet i have fewer posts than both of you. :awww: FAIL ?

Like Momma Like Fans ?

Seriously, if you don't like her, why even bother to comment on every goddamn joke that pops up on the net? Leave us alone. You're getting ridiculous.

tucker1989
Apr 11th, 2011, 09:29 PM
Wow, she stepped on the piano, moved her foot around, and fell off....I don't get it

Dodoboy.
Apr 11th, 2011, 09:29 PM
Britney and GaGa fans fighting, funny that. Both will be irrelevant very soon.

That is all :drive:

LeRoy.
Apr 11th, 2011, 09:48 PM
Gorls, I am a lil' monsta. Don't take all this so seriously.

She is sooooo talented. Heck, even when Beyonce face planted, she couldn't play the piano with her feet.....

Certinfy
Apr 11th, 2011, 10:01 PM
Wow so amazing :rolleyes:

Root
Apr 11th, 2011, 11:33 PM
And she still keeps singing live!! :worship:

Your fave could neva.

My favourite has already done so many times. :kiss:

slamchamp
Apr 12th, 2011, 01:40 AM
lol Born this Way get a life..really

LeRoy.
Apr 12th, 2011, 01:43 AM
Not that anyone is counting but the Country Road remix peaked outside the top 50 on iTunes and is currently outside the top 100 and possibly top 150. :awww:

On a totally unrelated note S&M remix feat Britney is currently #13 only after hours of its release.

hdfb
Apr 12th, 2011, 01:54 AM
Stan wars at the best

LeRoy.
Apr 12th, 2011, 02:44 AM
The same as Gaga. Themselves. Charity begins at home and Momma does know best.

And don't give me the GLSEN shit. All this "I am doing it for the gays and the homeless blah" is nothing but a self-serving mission and gorl, i know you know it.

P.S. See how well she sells when she promotes as much as Britney ?

LeRoy.
Apr 12th, 2011, 02:49 AM
^ A shadow of her former self + No promotion but still # 1 vs. At her peak + selling her soul and yet a song like S&M has more longevity ?

delicatecutter
Apr 12th, 2011, 03:00 AM
Well S&M is a much better song than BTW or HIAM. Gaga is the worst in all this because I actually thought she was an artist.

Dominic
Apr 12th, 2011, 03:15 AM
Gee you guys are being pretty childish, ppl can like whoever they want.

LeRoy.
Apr 12th, 2011, 03:25 AM
I dunno where you think you are but tennisforum is all about channeling your inner 12 year old. Be it about calling people fat or hating on other peoples faves...

Sp!ffy
Apr 12th, 2011, 05:32 AM
I dunno where you think you are but tennisforum is all about channeling your inner 12 year old. Be it about calling people fat or hating on other peoples faves...

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :worship:

Dodoboy.
Apr 12th, 2011, 08:03 AM
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj29v07Y011qcnoaro1_500.gif

Harju.
Apr 12th, 2011, 08:24 AM
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj29v07Y011qcnoaro1_500.gif
http://i30.tinypic.com/n39oow.jpg

Root
Apr 12th, 2011, 08:29 AM
Is Dodoboy once again getting active in preparation for Beyonce's new album release? :woohoo:

Melange
Apr 12th, 2011, 08:37 AM
You speak of fail??

http://i56.tinypic.com/s3px6o.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/4fy79h.gif

That is all.


:hysteric: :boxing:

Darop.
Apr 12th, 2011, 08:59 AM
This thread is so sad and pathetic :haha: Unbelievable.

MY FAYVRET SINGER IS BETTA THAN YURSZZZ!!!!!!!1111.

Just Do It
Apr 12th, 2011, 09:45 AM
You speak of fail??

http://i56.tinypic.com/s3px6o.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/4fy79h.gif

That is all.

*dead* Someone is bitter.

Wish I could play piano with feet :sad:

Pump-it-UP
Apr 12th, 2011, 10:00 AM
These next 3 months are gonna be so good with the stan wars. :drool:

Olórin
Apr 12th, 2011, 10:58 AM
Michelle, what happened to Born This Way (C U N T ry version) ? Like Momma Monsta did it fall off (the iTunes top 100) already ? FAIL again ?

And I thought the Maria Carey fans on youtube were bad :weirdo:

Mashabator
Apr 12th, 2011, 03:28 PM
I wanna see the vid :(

Super Dave
Apr 12th, 2011, 03:47 PM
I wanna see the vid :(

http://www.break.com/index/lady-gaga-falls-off-her-piano-2041680

Mashabator
Apr 12th, 2011, 03:49 PM
^ thx :)

Dodoboy.
Apr 12th, 2011, 09:32 PM
Is Dodoboy once again getting active in preparation for Beyonce's new album release? :woohoo:

http://i53.tinypic.com/33zftx3.gif

Break My Rapture
Apr 12th, 2011, 10:42 PM
You speak of fail??

http://i56.tinypic.com/s3px6o.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/4fy79h.gif

That is all.
:hysteric: :rolls:

Dominic
Apr 13th, 2011, 02:33 AM
I dunno where you think you are but tennisforum is all about channeling your inner 12 year old. Be it about calling people fat or hating on other peoples faves...

Sadly you are dead on!

delicatecutter
Apr 13th, 2011, 02:36 AM
Yep HIAM was a mistake. If she had released TTWE as the first single, everything would have been looking rosier for her. (But TBH, I don't think she cares. This is just a hobby for her at this point.)

LeRoy.
Apr 13th, 2011, 03:17 AM
If Britney cared about numbers do you think she would release a remix of S&M with Rihanna less than a week after releasing a music video for TTWE ? TTWE had jumped from # 21 to #3 on iTunes and if she cared about getting to #1 she would have done some promotion or pulled a stunt a la Katy/Rihanna but no she doesn't care about numbers. Heck, if she cared about numbers she would hire a staff of 1000+ people in South America whose only job involves requesting songs on US radio a la Gaga. How else do you think the song was #1 for that long although no one, including even the little monsters, liked it ?

Right now, Britney is doing music just for her fans. She has ruled the charts for long enough not to care about these numbers most of which are achieved not on the basis of how good the song is but by pulling stunts and hiring people to download/request songs online !

The Witch-king
Apr 13th, 2011, 07:21 AM
If Britney cared about numbers do you think she would release a remix of S&M with Rihanna less than a week after releasing a music video for TTWE ? TTWE had jumped from # 21 to #3 on iTunes and if she cared about getting to #1 she would have done some promotion or pulled a stunt a la Katy/Rihanna but no she doesn't care about numbers. Heck, if she cared about numbers she would hire a staff of 1000+ people in South America whose only job involves requesting songs on US radio a la Gaga. How else do you think the song was #1 for that long although no one, including even the little monsters, liked it ?

Right now, Britney is doing music just for her fans. She has ruled the charts for long enough not to care about these numbers most of which are achieved not on the basis of how good the song is but by pulling stunts and hiring people to download/request songs online !

Right. I'm sure you would have said the same thing had it been a hit.

LeRoy.
Apr 14th, 2011, 12:30 AM
Again not that anyone is keeping track but S&M reaches #1 on iTunes for the first time thanks to Britney being featured on the remix !

On a totally unrelated note, the last big collab between two female popstars "Telephone" (a Britney reject) with Lady Gaga and Beyonce peaked at #3 and that was a single not just a remix.

:awww:

LeRoy.
Apr 14th, 2011, 12:32 AM
Right. I'm sure you would have said the same thing had it been a hit.

Had what been a hit ? HIAM ? Ummm, It broke every record in the first week when it came out,without any promotion from Britney :awww:.

RenaSlam.
Apr 14th, 2011, 12:34 AM
Adele shits on all your faves. So silence.

hdfb
Apr 14th, 2011, 12:38 AM
^:sobbing: I don't think she fits well in the Britney-Gaga-Beyonce-Rihanna quadrangle.

LeRoy.
Apr 14th, 2011, 12:39 AM
^:sobbing: I don't think she fits well in the Britney-Gaga-Beyonce-Rihanna quadrangle.

I don't agree. She is as big if not bigger than all four of them put together.

:)

;)

:awww:

Ciarán
Apr 14th, 2011, 01:06 AM
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj29v07Y011qcnoaro1_500.gif

http://i53.tinypic.com/33zftx3.gif

Stop trying to make Beyoncé relevant. It's not going to happen.


On another note, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL this thread.

Pops Maellard
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:58 AM
Eww. when I saw the changed thread title to "Lady Gaga leaking" I thought of something different. :sobbing::o

Mynarco
Apr 15th, 2011, 08:20 AM
Adele shits on all your faves. So silence.

YES!

Pops Maellard
Apr 15th, 2011, 08:58 AM
Adele shits on all your faves. So silence.
Adele's fine, if you don't like fun. :shrug:

Mary Cherry.
Apr 15th, 2011, 03:31 PM
Adele's fine, just as long as you don't have to hear her talk.

Super Dave
Apr 15th, 2011, 03:35 PM
Adele's fine, as long as you don't have to watch her smoke. Ew.

Mary Cherry.
Apr 15th, 2011, 03:46 PM
Hmm. In hindsight, Adele's not really fine at all.

rockstar
Apr 15th, 2011, 04:53 PM
the HQ version was released

Sgt.Timmykinz
Apr 15th, 2011, 04:56 PM
Its alright, no better than BTW, I was expecting more really!

My expectations for album have fallen substantially!

M.P
Apr 15th, 2011, 05:37 PM
just like her other songs...

Apoleb
Apr 15th, 2011, 05:43 PM
It's good, except the chorus which is pretty lame. Sounds like a 90s reject but far better than BTW.

just like her other songs...

That too.. I see no growth, but it's RedOne so nothing to expect.

delicatecutter
Apr 15th, 2011, 05:54 PM
A step back in the right direction

new-york
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:02 PM
Born This Way is much more balanced.
Disappointed.

It tries too hard to punch you and the chorus ruins it all.
Then she talks and it's like "which Gaga song is that, déjà?".

:(

Mynarco
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:15 PM
Her song is getting worse :sobbing:

Whitehead's Boy
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:23 PM
Wow, another disappointment. Same problem as Born This Way, trying too hard to create a hit by copying the structure of another song (at least now she's copying her own song (Bad Romance) instead of ripping off Madonna).

I think the problem might be with RedOne. Totally uninspired. Also don't we hear exactly the same noise in Poker Face (that weeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu before the chorus).

Just Do It
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:26 PM
Wha the hell :bigcry: BTW much much better.

~{X}~
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:30 PM
Maybe all the complainers should go make their own music since they are so inspired and talented enough to critique it. ;)

Kworb
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:31 PM
It's soooooo good :bowdown:

Root
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:40 PM
Maybe all the complainers should go make their own music since they are so inspired and talented enough to critique it. ;)

You don't have to be a musician to criticise other musicians' work.

Whitehead's Boy
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:42 PM
In all fairness, she must be under immense pressure to create hits.

I don't think you can freely create when you have millions of Facebook little monsters who're waiting for the next Bad Romance.

Maybe once the expections will drop we'll hear something fresh, and hopefully better.

LeRoy.
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:45 PM
None of her new stuff is going to ever touch what she did in the Fame/Monster era.While "Judas" has some iffy parts, overall, it is much better than the recycled turd that was "Born This Way". The last minute of Judas is EPIC. Too bad the first half is BLAH. Still "Government Hooker" is the song I am waiting for.

Apoleb
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:47 PM
In all fairness, she must be under immense pressure to create hits.

I don't think you can freely create when you have millions of Facebook little monsters who're waiting for the next Bad Romance.

Maybe once the expections will drop we'll hear something fresh, and hopefully better.

It would help if she and her little monsters don't hype the crap out of her with all the sort of pretentious stuff as if she's making high ART or something. When in reality she's just a decent pop hit-maker who's currently stuck with a formula.

I think her game has been off since the first release of Fame. Both Just Dance and Poker Face remain her best tracks (and imo they are her only outstanding pop songs).

Super Dave
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:47 PM
I'm not seeing it...Post 1 says File Removed for Violation. Where can I listen to it?

LeRoy.
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:50 PM
I'm not seeing it...Post 1 says File Removed for Violation. Where can I listen to it?

http://bit.ly/fEb1H5

Smitten
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:52 PM
The link in the OP doesn't work anymore and Youtube is shutting down uploads almost immediately. I have no way to hear it.

~{X}~
Apr 15th, 2011, 06:53 PM
You don't have to be a musician to criticise other musicians' work.

No but if you don't like it you don't have to critique it period? Its a waste of time and energy. :lol: Go do something productive? ;)

Super Dave
Apr 15th, 2011, 07:01 PM
I like it... The chorus doesn't kick as hard as it could but the rest of the song has enough in it. I'd give it a 7.5/10.

Smitten
Apr 15th, 2011, 07:04 PM
It sounds more like Local GaGa than Lady GaGa. :crying2: Where is Scheiße?!

Mynarco
Apr 15th, 2011, 07:11 PM
Telephone/Poker Face are quite good. But the rest :o (For some reason I just don't like Bad Romance)

Alejandro is the worst from Gaga, hands down

Kworb
Apr 15th, 2011, 07:18 PM
Ugh it just gets better and better with each listen. This is even better than Alejandro and Bad Romance.

iGOAT
Apr 15th, 2011, 07:21 PM
It's interesting how everyone realized how amazing "Bad Romance" was now :unsure: when it came out it "sounded like Poker Face" and the video was amaze, but people didn't act like it was that great. Now it's suddenly something she'll never live up to... Even though she just did with "Judas".

LeRoy.
Apr 15th, 2011, 07:38 PM
OMG I can't take so many Gaga stans saying they are sad, depressed, disappointed and contemplating suicide because Judas isn't as good as they expected it to be. It's just a song guys and I don't think she is going to disappoint with "Government Hooker".

The Witch-king
Apr 15th, 2011, 07:39 PM
^ I never understood the appeal of Bad Romance... still don't. I like Judas better TBH.

The Witch-king
Apr 15th, 2011, 07:42 PM
OMG I can't take so many Gaga stans saying they are sad, depressed, disappointed and contemplating suicide because Judas isn't as good as they expected it to be. It's just a song guys and I don't think she is going to disappoint with "Government Hooker".

I'm starting to regret following these threads. I appreciated music so much better without all this "Stan" talk

Adal
Apr 15th, 2011, 07:44 PM
Liking it better than BTW.

Root
Apr 15th, 2011, 08:15 PM
No but if you don't like it you don't have to critique it period? Its a waste of time and energy. :lol: Go do something productive? ;)

Why not? It's not always a waste of time and energy. What about music critics? Or is it because we don't post paragraphs criticising it?

~{X}~
Apr 15th, 2011, 08:17 PM
Music critics get paid. :lol: That is their job, so its productive for them.

Root
Apr 15th, 2011, 08:34 PM
You know most if not all of us are on forums to not do anything productive, right?

Apoleb
Apr 15th, 2011, 08:36 PM
^Don't bother. He/she is cleary very pressed that not everyone is !1!! for the song. :o

~{X}~
Apr 15th, 2011, 08:56 PM
Not really, so please don't assume anything about me. Thanks, appreciate it.

~{X}~
Apr 15th, 2011, 08:57 PM
You know most if not all of us are on forums to not do anything productive, right?

Clearly.

Whitehead's Boy
Apr 15th, 2011, 09:09 PM
In just a few years, Lady Gaga has been able to create a cult following of people who will buy her songs on itunes separately to generate more sales, or who'll react negatively when people post 2 lines long review of one of her songs.

Not quite sure how to explain it, but she is a genius a la L Ron Hubbard.

~{X}~
Apr 15th, 2011, 09:33 PM
You mean like Britney stans? :o And every other artist's stans? Its not just Lady Gaga. :lol:

Root
Apr 15th, 2011, 09:49 PM
Not every artist has stans.

~{X}~
Apr 15th, 2011, 09:56 PM
If they do... its how they act.

Don't take things so literally, relax. :lol:

Root
Apr 15th, 2011, 10:04 PM
If they do... its how they act.

:confused:

Pump-it-UP
Apr 15th, 2011, 10:08 PM
This song is fire. It's no Government Hooker, but still..... y'all stay pressed. :lol:

Optima
Apr 15th, 2011, 10:30 PM
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the chorus - sounds like ABBA, almost. Not fond of the "ju-das ju-das ga ga" stuff but everything else is good.

Pump-it-UP
Apr 15th, 2011, 11:25 PM
#5 on iTunes. She'll probably be #1 before midnight EST.

Mary Cherry.
Apr 15th, 2011, 11:29 PM
Just heard it now. Thought it was literally AWESOME...up until the chorus. It's hit & miss IMO, but not her worst song by a long shot.

Seems like she's recycling parts of her previous songs in this one, which I wouldn't mind if it weren't so obvious.

Pops Maellard
Apr 15th, 2011, 11:38 PM
http://bit.ly/fEb1H5

Great link! Thanks.

It's good but not great. Neither was BTW.

Break My Rapture
Apr 16th, 2011, 12:15 AM
It's so....Bad Romance, especially the chorus. The rest of the song is good, I think the video might also better the song if it's any good.

Tennisation
Apr 16th, 2011, 12:22 AM
First off, Poker Face >>>> Bad Romance. I don't get all the love for Bad Romance, "gaga ooh la la" gets stale like Beyonce's weave after 5 listens. Second, Born This Way was shit so any follow-up single is better. While Judas may not be ground breaking, at least she's not blantanly ripping off of someone else. If mother monster, her PR, and her dog Perez would just shut up about how amazing this new album is gonna be, I think people would set lower expectations and like Judas more. For a few months there I lost my mother monster cuz she was too busy "expressing herself", but I think she came back with Judas. This is more like the Lady Gaga that I like.

iGOAT
Apr 16th, 2011, 12:28 AM
First off, Poker Face >>>> Bad Romance. I don't get all the love for Bad Romance, "gaga ooh la la" gets stale like Beyonce's weave after 5 listens. Second, Born This Way was shit so any follow-up single is better. While Judas may not be ground breaking, at least she's not blantanly ripping off of someone else. If mother monster, her PR, and her dog Perez would just shut up about how amazing this new album is gonna be, I think people would set lower expectations and like Judas more. For a few months there I lost my mother monster cuz she was too busy "expressing herself", but I think she came back with Judas. This is more like the Lady Gaga that I like.
The fact is, people find the endless praise of her album annoying, but it gains hype and sales, which is obviously the goal ;).

harloo
Apr 16th, 2011, 12:29 AM
:haha::haha:This song is a fucking mess. I laughed my ass off, ridiculous.:lol:

Mynarco
Apr 16th, 2011, 12:31 AM
The last okay song from Gaga is Telephone.


Anyone with me?

Sp!ffy
Apr 16th, 2011, 12:42 AM
Meh, it's okay. Part of it is good, part of it is annoying...just like the other GaGa songs. I'll hear it 300 more times and then get used to it probably..

Mary Cherry.
Apr 16th, 2011, 12:43 AM
It's a shame really, because no matter what she does - nothing will ever top Just Dance.

slamchamp
Apr 16th, 2011, 01:05 AM
I think it's a big hit..up there with bad romance

Kworb
Apr 16th, 2011, 01:37 AM
The last okay song from Gaga is Telephone.


Anyone with me?

No way, that was her worst single by far.

PatrickRyan
Apr 16th, 2011, 01:56 AM
It's OK. I don't like the begging, the end gets better though.

In The Zone
Apr 16th, 2011, 02:07 AM
Judas is like Last Name for Carrie Underwood. Desperate attempt at mirroring the formula of the prior big hit (Before He Cheats -- Bad Romance). It's almost identical but a much cheaper version.

Still excited for the album, though.

Roookie
Apr 16th, 2011, 03:47 AM
It would help if she and her little monsters don't hype the crap out of her with all the sort of pretentious stuff as if she's making high ART or something. When in reality she's just a decent pop hit-maker who's currently stuck with a formula.

I think her game has been off since the first release of Fame. Both Just Dance and Poker Face remain her best tracks (and imo they are her only outstanding pop songs).

100% agreed. Just Dance and Poker Face are Gaga's best songs by far. Bad Romance, Alejandro, Telephone sounded like what they're were...bsides, first album left-overs.

BTW is a fairly good but I find the production of the track very poor.

Optima
Apr 16th, 2011, 03:59 AM
I find it so hard to know the true quality of a song...there's such many varying opinions - Bad Romance, Telephone, etc - the user above said they all sound like B-Sides, and I think that's bullshit. In all honesty it's too subjective to say something is "inherently good."

Singleniacki
Apr 16th, 2011, 04:00 AM
Judas is good!

Drake1980
Apr 16th, 2011, 04:43 AM
:hysteric:

new-york
Apr 16th, 2011, 04:46 AM
IKR. B-sides? The Grammys disagree.

http://i53.tinypic.com/mb7qqs.gif

The Grammys nominated Justin Bieber.

When's the video out? Will be interesting for sure! :D

Gdsimmons
Apr 16th, 2011, 06:05 AM
I think the last minute and half of the song is the best. Towards the end I was starting to dig the song but then it was over.

LeRoy.
Apr 16th, 2011, 06:31 AM
OK. I heard Judas in the club tonight and OMG it sounded sooooo hot. Listen to the song in HQ with your speaker volume turned all the way up and its EPIC especially the last minute or so. :bowdown:

Svetlana)))
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:00 AM
It's okay I guess but with a fan base of hers, Judas will either debut at #1 or #2 next week (probably #2 as this song wasn't that overhyped) The first part of the song sounds like 21st century girl from Willow to me :shrug:

Smitten
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:08 AM
The first part of the song sounds like 21st century girl from Willow to me :shrug:

That's the worst thing you could say about any song.

volta
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:38 AM
hm first listen hated it , 2nd time liked it but i hate the chorus sounds like it doesn't belong there

Root
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:54 AM
It's a shame really, because no matter what she does - nothing will ever top Just Dance.

As much as I dislike the woman's music, Just Dance is the only song of hers I can say I like. She did do a great job on that one.

IKR. B-sides? The Grammys disagree.

http://i53.tinypic.com/mb7qqs.gif

and then you look at her competition.

Pops Maellard
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:57 AM
IKR. B-sides? The Grammys disagree.

http://i53.tinypic.com/mb7qqs.gif

Katy looked pretty there. :)

rockstar
Apr 16th, 2011, 10:45 AM
first listen - WTF?
second listen - oh yeah!!!

Sgt.Timmykinz
Apr 16th, 2011, 01:49 PM
Here's the BTW album cover:

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1/2011/04/gaga-cover/lady-gaga-born-this-way-album-cover.jpg

I like it!

Reptilia
Apr 16th, 2011, 02:03 PM
I really don't like that font on the album cover.
As for the song, I like it a lot more than I thought I would. I just hope she doesn't go OTT with the video :o

Darop.
Apr 16th, 2011, 02:34 PM
What the hell album cover is that??? :haha:

Motorcyle Woman! :banana:



:unsure:

volta
Apr 16th, 2011, 02:39 PM
:o
shoulda have gone with this instead
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljpo988wfe1qdmb8eo1_500.png

Apoleb
Apr 16th, 2011, 02:49 PM
The song has gotten worse with more listens. It's embarrassingly bad. Probably now I think Born This Way is better.

delicatecutter
Apr 16th, 2011, 02:51 PM
:spit:

Mynarco
Apr 16th, 2011, 03:06 PM
I thought that was Jaja

Root
Apr 16th, 2011, 03:29 PM
That album cover. :help:

You know something is wrong when Born This Way sounds better.

delicatecutter
Apr 16th, 2011, 03:31 PM
It feels like she's trying too hard.

new-york
Apr 16th, 2011, 04:00 PM
:o
shoulda have gone with this instead
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljpo988wfe1qdmb8eo1_500.png

THIS will be the album cover as far as i'm concerned. :o

Reptilia
Apr 16th, 2011, 04:00 PM
It feels like she's trying too hard.

It feels like she's been trying too hard since Paparazzi. :shrug:

Sp!ffy
Apr 16th, 2011, 04:06 PM
I like most of the song but the "Juda, Judas" part is so annoying. :o

And why does Gag look like more of an alien everytime I see her? :unsure:

ElusiveChanteuse
Apr 16th, 2011, 04:09 PM
Maybe we all have expected from her that she'll continue to go the direction like what she did on her last album. This album may be a little different I guess, lyrically especially. :shrug:

Roookie
Apr 16th, 2011, 04:50 PM
Lady Gaga remainds me so much of Marilyn Manson's career. At first it was fun and entertaining and like Gaga more than the music it was all about the character and the videos. But soon he was running out of ideas and just went for the ridiculous (remember Manson getting boobs in one video? :lol:). He didn't have anything left to shock people with. I think both are very talented but they get caught in this alter-egos that doesn't really allowed them to try different things and crowds get tired of the same thing very easily.

The Daviator
Apr 16th, 2011, 05:13 PM
She can't make epic pop songs anymore :( This is another lightweight track.

Uranium
Apr 16th, 2011, 05:28 PM
I feel the same as many, the song is good, but the chorus is weak.

delicatecutter
Apr 16th, 2011, 05:30 PM
It's almost like she's doing the bare minimum because she knows her fans will eat it up regardless. It's quite sad, really.

Betten
Apr 16th, 2011, 05:54 PM
Her last three singles have been very disappointing.

Sp!ffy
Apr 16th, 2011, 06:47 PM
Funny read :lol: :

Lady Gaga is stirring up controversy with the lyrics and video for her new song, "Judas."

The tune features lyrics like: "I want to love you,/but something’s pulling me away from you/Jesus is my virtue, and Judas is the demon I cling to….I’m just a holy fool,/ oh baby he’s so cruel,/ but I’m still in love with Judas, baby.”

Fumes Bill Donahue, president of The Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, in a statement: "This is a stunt... Lady Gaga tries to continue to shock Catholics and Christians in general: she dresses as a nun... she swallows the rosary. She has now morphed into a caricature of herself. :spit:

"She is trying to rip off Christian idolatry to shore up her talentless, mundane and boring performances. Another ex-Catholic whose head is turned around... Is this the only way to jet up her performance? This isn't random, we are getting closer to Holy Week and Easter."

Gaga plays Mary Magdalene in the forthcoming video, which her creative director, Laurieann Gibson (who was behind the Grammy egg), told The Hollywood Reporter that "Judas" shouldn't be offensive.

"It went through several changes and late-night debates because at one point, there were two completely different views and I was like, 'Listen, I don't want lightning to strike me! I believe in the gospel and I'm not going there.' And it was amazing because to have that conversation about salvation, peace and the search for the truth in a room of non-believers and believers, to me, that was saying God is active in a big way. And the place that it came to is surreal. We don't touch on things that we have no right touching upon, but the inspiration and the soul and idea that out of your oppression, your darkness, your Judas, you can come into the marvelous light. So it's about the inspiration and to never give up… We've created a new Jerusalem. :hysteric:

When asked if she would have walked away from the video if she didn't agree with the final treatment, Gibson said, "Absolutely. I do believe God inspired and worked on everyone's heart, but yes. I would have been like, “Good bye, I ain't doing it. No way.” But the place it came to is really magical. And she's dancing her face off.

Apparently, GaGa is going to be Mary Magdalene in her new video. I'm an atheist but I think it's so disrespectful of her to keep pulling religion into her pop cult crap.

Apoleb
Apr 16th, 2011, 06:51 PM
Well, she's been obviously learning from Madonna. Scratch religion and publicity and controversy will be a sure thing. :yeah:

And :spit: at discussing "slavation, peace and the search for truth" in that piece of crap. Maybe she is a joke.

Root
Apr 16th, 2011, 06:51 PM
"So it's about the inspiration and to never give up… We've created a new Jerusalem."

Okay. :lol:

Pump-it-UP
Apr 16th, 2011, 06:56 PM
I can't wait for the Illuminati analysis of the video. :drool:

delicatecutter
Apr 16th, 2011, 06:58 PM
What is the song even about? :scratch: I can't understand what she is singing for the most part and it sounds like she has adopted a pseudo Caribbean accent.

I don't get the album cover, either. Is she saying she was born to be a tranny motorcycle enthusiast?

Roookie
Apr 16th, 2011, 07:00 PM
:happy: she's full of :bs:

Mary Cherry.
Apr 16th, 2011, 07:41 PM
Judas is like Last Name for Carrie Underwood. Desperate attempt at mirroring the formula of the prior big hit (Before He Cheats -- Bad Romance). It's almost identical but a much cheaper version.

Still excited for the album, though.

True, but the difference is Carrie Underwood should be able to get away with it. On the other hand Lady GaGa is made out to be this avant-garde, exciting, ground-breaking artist that is pushing all sorts of boundaries with every thing she does.

Of course we know she's not as original as certain people would like us to think, but things like this are really disappointing. Recycling old formulas that have worked for her in songs before goes against everything she's supposed to be. Not to mention all the hype that gets built up around each "new" song.

Betten
Apr 16th, 2011, 07:45 PM
Ugh, she's becoming a poppier version of Tori Amos: devising ridiculous monikers for her fans/stans (Amos had her 'ears and feet', Gaga leads her 'little monsters'), using religious imagery in her works (Amos' work is pervaded with such references, Gaga exploits it mostly in her videos), igniting controversy (Amos famously breastfed a piglet, danced with rats and had tea with Lucifer; Gaga wore a meat dress, wanted to ride a 'disco stick' and had people wondering if she had one herself) and associating herself with a specific group of people (Amos found an audience with victims of sexual assault, Gaga focuses heavily on her LGBT fans). Finally, both are often compared to (and have been accused of copying) their predecessors (namely Kate Bush and Madonna).

Kworb
Apr 16th, 2011, 07:51 PM
People think about this stuff way too much. Just listen to the music and enjoy it (or not).

Root
Apr 16th, 2011, 08:01 PM
Ugh, she's becoming a poppier version of Tori Amos: devising ridiculous monikers for her fans/stans (Amos had her 'ears and feet', Gaga leads her 'little monsters'), using religious imagery in her works (Amos' work is pervaded with such references, Gaga exploits it mostly in her videos), igniting controversy (Amos famously breastfed a piglet, danced with rats and had tea with Lucifer; Gaga wore a meat dress, wanted to ride a 'disco stick' and had people wondering if she had one herself) and associating herself with a specific group of people (Amos found an audience with victims of sexual assault, Gaga focuses heavily on her LGBT fans). Finally, both are often compared to (and have been accused of copying) their predecessors (namely Kate Bush and Madonna).

Many artists are Kate Bush ripoffs. Tori Amos, PJ Harvey, Björk, Regina Spektor, Fiona Apple, Lady Gaga and even Madonna herself.

Mynarco
Apr 16th, 2011, 08:04 PM
^Sorry...who is Kate Bush :sobbing:

delicatecutter
Apr 16th, 2011, 08:19 PM
I really don't think most of those artists are Kate Bush ripoffs. :lol:

Sp!ffy
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:10 PM
Has to be freedom related... Saviour of the gays? Ride on my back, I'll lead the way? :p

Since I'm not allowed to post in the fan thread, I might as well respond here. :lol:

I don't understand why GaGa is being symbolized as the "savior of the gays". Since when did gays need a savior? Sure, she's helped a lot with the gay community but I'm afraid that she's actually starting to represent it too. Not every gay likes to be called a little monster, spit on religion, prance around screaming anthems like "I'm born this way!!! Accept me!", and listen to this homoerotic shit all the time. It's pissing me off and people like Ciaran are contributing to these stereotypes.

Pops Maellard
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:18 PM
True, but the difference is Carrie Underwood should be able to get away with it. On the other hand Lady GaGa is made out to be this avant-garde, exciting, ground-breaking artist that is pushing all sorts of boundaries with every thing she does.

Of course we know she's not as original as certain people would like us to think, but things like this are really disappointing. Recycling old formulas that have worked for her in songs before goes against everything she's supposed to be. Not to mention all the hype that gets built up around each "new" song.

LOL.

Bismarck.
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:20 PM
I've listened to Judas and I have to say, she's lucky she has a great production and PR team behind her because her writing and 'artistry' sure as fuck ain't up to much. :lol:

I also find it crazy how much her fans are absolutely eating up everything she's selling right now. I wonder how long it will be before they become bored and move somewhere else?

Optima
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:29 PM
^Sorry...who is Kate Bush :sobbing:

:sad: :sobbing:

Whyyyyyy

Mynarco
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:37 PM
:sad: :sobbing:

Whyyyyyy

I wasn't even born when most of her songs were made. From what I google so far, she looks like the pioneer of craziness in music industry

Mary Cherry.
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:39 PM
LOL.

What? People do make her out to be some sort of weirdo genius.

Pops Maellard
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:44 PM
What? People do make her out to be some sort of weirdo genius.
I know they do but that's ridiculous, hence the LOL.

Root
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:45 PM
I wasn't even born when most of her songs were made. From what I google so far, she looks like the pioneer of craziness in music industry

:worship:

I really don't think most of those artists are Kate Bush ripoffs. :lol:

They know how to fool millions into thinking they're original when in reality, Bush had been there and done that already.

Bismarck.
Apr 16th, 2011, 09:53 PM
They know how to fool millions into thinking they're original when in reality, Bush had been there and done that already.

The difference is that Bush did it well. Wuthering Heights is IMO one of the greatest songs ever created from a lyrical perspective, and that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to her back catalogue.

delicatecutter
Apr 16th, 2011, 10:38 PM
They know how to fool millions into thinking they're original when in reality, Bush had been there and done that already.

Well PJ Harvey really has me fooled because I hear none of Kate Bush in her music.

LeRoy.
Apr 16th, 2011, 10:39 PM
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k546/Dave_Lewis/277818162.jpg

Root
Apr 16th, 2011, 10:40 PM
LeRoy :hysteric: The title keeps getting better.

Roookie
Apr 16th, 2011, 10:42 PM
The cover looks like a Caralenko photoshop job :tape:

delicatecutter
Apr 16th, 2011, 10:44 PM
That is mighty explicit. :eek:

LeRoy.
Apr 16th, 2011, 10:48 PM
The alphabet "L" ribbed and in pink font is explicit ?

delicatecutter
Apr 16th, 2011, 10:49 PM
Yep. My virgin eyes can't handle it. :hysteric:

Miracle Worker
Apr 16th, 2011, 11:35 PM
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k546/Dave_Lewis/277818162.jpg

It's stupid, but few years ago (even more than few), I watched Japanese anime "Sailor moon" and in one of the 1000s episode played a monster who looked the same as she on this photo.

Brooks.
Apr 16th, 2011, 11:43 PM
I can't ever understand what she is saying in her new songs.

I can't believe how popular she is right now.

Bismarck.
Apr 17th, 2011, 02:17 PM
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k546/Dave_Lewis/277818162.jpg

Is this the official cover? :hysteric: The WordArt font is the best bit, I think.

cellophane
Apr 17th, 2011, 03:35 PM
F... Gaga

This is the shit

R-0Qx8HwlW4

The black dancer :drool: (Can I have his phone number :hearts: )

30 seconds from 2:15-2:45 are pure electronic bliss...

moby
Apr 18th, 2011, 09:30 AM
Many artists are Kate Bush ripoffs. Tori Amos, PJ Harvey, Björk, Regina Spektor, Fiona Apple, Lady Gaga and even Madonna herself.You left out Prince, Courtney Love, Celine Dion, Oasis, and Katy Perry.

LeRoy.
Apr 18th, 2011, 06:58 PM
So now that everyone has heard "Born This Way" and "Judas", the first two singles that have been released from Lady Gaga's second album titled "Born This Way", most fans and non-fans seem to think the singles have been a major disappointment when compared to her earlier work.

Do you think "The Fame/Monster" era was just a fluke and this is the level we should expect from her this point on ? What are your expectations from her hew album vis-a-vis her previous work ?

Brooks.
Apr 18th, 2011, 07:42 PM
So now that everyone has heard "Born This Way" and "Judas", the first two singles that have been released from Lady Gaga's second album titled "Born This Way", most fans and non-fans seem to think the singles have been a major disappointment when compared to her earlier work.

Do you think "The Fame/Monster" era was just a fluke and this is the level we should expect from her this point on ? What are your expectations from her hew album vis-a-vis her previous work ?

Well clearly the songs are still selling like hotcakes so obviously there are people out there who like them.

I think they've been very disappointing and don't even get me started on that album cover. But she's obviously going to be successful with this album, whether the quality of her music has gone down or not.

~{X}~
Apr 18th, 2011, 07:43 PM
Not really, I think her new music just comes down to having different sound to it, you know like musicians should have when going from album to album. It shouldn't be the same synthesized robotic crap that people have heard over and over again like some people do for album after album after album.

These songs Lady Gaga has released definitely have a harder sound to them, a bit more rock to them. I don't find it bad, different yes, but if I wanted to hear the same things over and over again, I'd just listen to her older albums.

Adal
Apr 18th, 2011, 08:28 PM
I don't really see how 'Judas' is a different sound for her. It's basically a Bad Romance 2.0 and it's quite obvious what she was going for with the song. I still like it, but you have to be delusional to say that it's a completely different sound than 'Bad Romance'

She tried a different sound with 'Born This Way' and even though it sold amazingly well, I think there were quite a few disappointed fans, including myself. I just hope the rest of the album sounds more like Judas than BTW, whether it's a new sound or not.

Miracle Worker
Apr 18th, 2011, 08:35 PM
So now that everyone has heard "Born This Way" and "Judas", the first two singles that have been released from Lady Gaga's second album titled "Born This Way", most fans and non-fans seem to think the singles have been a major disappointment when compared to her earlier work.

Do you think "The Fame/Monster" era was just a fluke and this is the level we should expect from her this point on ? What are your expectations from her hew album vis-a-vis her previous work ?

I don't think about these songs in such way. These songs are good, but from her people wanted more than this.

She is not able to shock us everytime. She is not Madonna who is able to be leader in show business.

Root
Apr 18th, 2011, 08:39 PM
You left out Prince, Courtney Love, Celine Dion, Oasis, and Katy Perry.

If I had to type down every artist who copied her, I'd take hours. But yes, those you mentioned also shamelessly copied her and passed it off as their own. I'd like to point out artists who copy the artists mentioned are eligible into having their names listed in the list as well.

So now that everyone has heard "Born This Way" and "Judas", the first two singles that have been released from Lady Gaga's second album titled "Born This Way", most fans and non-fans seem to think the singles have been a major disappointment when compared to her earlier work.

Do you think "The Fame/Monster" era was just a fluke and this is the level we should expect from her this point on ? What are your expectations from her hew album vis-a-vis her previous work ?

I thought The Fame and The Fame Monster were two separate albums. Shouldn't Born This Way be the third?

I don't really see how 'Judas' is a different sound for her. It's basically a Bad Romance 2.0 and it's quite obvious what she was going for with the song. I still like it, but you have to be delusional to say that it's a completely different sound than 'Bad Romance'

She tried a different sound with 'Born This Way' and even though it sold amazingly well, I think there were quite a few disappointed fans, including myself. I just hope the rest of the album sounds more like Judas than BTW, whether it's a new sound or not.

True. It sounds so much like it. I'm not sure how people call that a change of sound.

slamchamp
Apr 18th, 2011, 08:48 PM
Judas is Great..so she keeps on delievering even after BTW which sucked in my opinion

~{X}~
Apr 18th, 2011, 08:57 PM
I don't really see how 'Judas' is a different sound for her. It's basically a Bad Romance 2.0 and it's quite obvious what she was going for with the song. I still like it, but you have to be delusional to say that it's a completely different sound than 'Bad Romance'

She tried a different sound with 'Born This Way' and even though it sold amazingly well, I think there were quite a few disappointed fans, including myself. I just hope the rest of the album sounds more like Judas than BTW, whether it's a new sound or not.

Judas is harder sounding that Bad Romance, I'm talking about the sound of the music, not the way the song is set up, and just because certain aspects of the song sounds similar, its not. Judas is harder sounding than Bad Romance to my ears.

I mean I just don't hear the same thing you guys are hearing I guess. Judas and Bad Romance do not sound completely the same to me, possibly certain parts of the song like the chorus or something may sound similar, but I wouldn't say they sound the same.

I just don't hear it. Then again, I don't have a problem with Judas or Born This Way. It took me a few listens to get used to the sound and now I love them.

Beat
Apr 18th, 2011, 09:06 PM
The cover looks like a Caralenko photoshop job :tape:

so true! :rolls: did she try to do a trashy microsoft word design à la M.I.A.? if so, she failed miserably.

Root
Apr 18th, 2011, 09:08 PM
so true! :rolls: did she try to do a trashy microsoft word design à la M.I.A.? if so, she failed miserably.

I think the cover of the Judas single was done on Microsoft Word. :scratch:

Beat
Apr 18th, 2011, 09:08 PM
^Sorry...who is Kate Bush :sobbing:

:sad: :sobbing:

Whyyyyyy

I wasn't even born when most of her songs were made. From what I google so far, she looks like the pioneer of craziness in music industry

so you don't know who the beatles or the rolling stones or abba are, neither?

Mynarco
Apr 18th, 2011, 09:25 PM
So now that everyone has heard "Born This Way" and "Judas", the first two singles that have been released from Lady Gaga's second album titled "Born This Way", most fans and non-fans seem to think the singles have been a major disappointment when compared to her earlier work.

Do you think "The Fame/Monster" era was just a fluke and this is the level we should expect from her this point on ? What are your expectations from her hew album vis-a-vis her previous work ?

Has Lady Gaga passed her peak and will never win another Grammy?:angel:

Mynarco
Apr 18th, 2011, 09:26 PM
so you don't know who the beatles or the rolling stones or abba are, neither?

I know Abba (because I watched Mamma Mia). I like Bee Gees, I'm not that familiar with any good songs from beatles or TRS(I thought they are American :tape:. I just know John Lennon is really famous.

shrOOf
Apr 18th, 2011, 09:49 PM
"Judas" is just tasteless. As a catholic christian I feel offended by that song... especially when it is Easter-time...she has gone too far this time in my opinion.

Dodoboy.
Apr 18th, 2011, 09:50 PM
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Miracle Worker
Apr 18th, 2011, 10:04 PM
"Judas" is just tasteless. As a catholic christian I feel offended by that song... especially when it is Easter-time...she has gone too far this time in my opinion.

:haha: Easter-time is the main reason why she released this song right now. In video she will be crucified and we will see performance in Vatican.

delicatecutter
Apr 18th, 2011, 11:09 PM
If I had to type down every artist who copied her, I'd take hours. But yes, those you mentioned also shamelessly copied her and passed it off as their own. I'd like to point out artists who copy the artists mentioned are eligible into having their names listed in the list as well.

I'm pretty sure he was being facetious. :lol:

Pops Maellard
Apr 19th, 2011, 12:20 AM
Fluke is the wrong word but she's defintely not living up to her promise of 'best album of the decade!' so far. :lol:

She's been on a slide IMO since the Alejandro video.

slamchamp
Apr 19th, 2011, 01:37 AM
She's really madona like right?? Like a prayer video really comes to mind

delicatecutter
Apr 19th, 2011, 01:47 AM
So does Born This Way which blatantly ripped off Express Yourself. No wonder it only took her 15 minutes to write. :o

delicatecutter
Apr 19th, 2011, 05:00 AM
I honestly think if she had called the track Jesus and said she was in love with Jesus it would be far more interesting and "shocking". I can't believe I just outthought Lady Gaga.

Mashabator
Apr 19th, 2011, 06:31 AM
Pretty sure u didnt out think gaga.
She clearly did Judas for a reason and she said the song was about falling in love with the wrong person, so then that would mean if she did jesus hed be the 'wrong person' christians would be more offended.

delicatecutter
Apr 19th, 2011, 06:37 AM
:spit: You're falling into her trap. She could make a song about falling in love with the wrong person without mentioning folks from the Bible. She's trying to make a statement. I just think it would be a far more interesting one if she had said she was in love with Jesus. Because no one would be expecting that. Especially because it would be facetious. And far more relevant in terms of what the hardcore Christian fundamentalists are trying to do to my country. I'm sorry if you didn't get what I meant.

Mashabator
Apr 19th, 2011, 06:54 AM
Meh well Jesus would still be more controversial towards christians, but anyway she said shes catholic which means she already in a sense 'loves' jesus so why write a song about it.
She did it as judas because hes a bad person to fall in love with because he betrayed jesus.

Sp!ffy
Apr 19th, 2011, 07:26 AM
I really don't think Gaga has the ability to think that deep. Just seems like she's saying whatever the hell sounds "edgy" even if it's dumb.

Tennisation
Apr 19th, 2011, 07:52 AM
Seriously, this bitch needs to back off my religion!

NeeemZ
Apr 19th, 2011, 08:30 AM
It's not surprising that Gaga has to rely on gimmicks to be in the media because the quality of her music nowadays isn't getting her there. She's being controversial just because she's an attention whore.

It's definitely sad because I liked the Lady Gaga that released Poker Face and Just Dance - when she cared about music.

Miracle Worker
Apr 19th, 2011, 09:40 AM
Seriously, this bitch needs to back off my religion!

No, she can't.

Singleniacki
Apr 19th, 2011, 09:44 AM
BTW and Judas arent msot people's favourite Gaga songs, but you should leave your criticisms until we hear the other 15 songs on the album ;)

Root
Apr 19th, 2011, 10:04 AM
I honestly think if she had called the track Jesus and said she was in love with Jesus it would be far more interesting and "shocking". I can't believe I just outthought Lady Gaga.

I'm pretty sure you did not outthink Gaga. She is not that stupid.

delicatecutter
Apr 19th, 2011, 10:07 AM
Burn! NOT. How is my idea stupid?

iGOAT
Apr 19th, 2011, 07:56 PM
I really don't think Gaga has the ability to think that deep. Just seems like she's saying whatever the hell sounds "edgy" even if it's dumb.
Say what you want, but she is SMART. She obviously knows how to get support, fans, attention etc. and besides that she went to Tisch and got really good grades all through school, when she went to Sacred Heart, which is one of the most hard and exclusive prep schools in New York. She definitely "has the ability" to think deeply.

young_gunner913
Apr 19th, 2011, 07:59 PM
I honestly think if she had called the track Jesus and said she was in love with Jesus it would be far more interesting and "shocking". I can't believe I just outthought Lady Gaga.

Katy Perry was singing about loving Jesus and look where it was getting her, no where. Now she's singing about getting some alien dick and she's got fans left and right.

ce
Apr 19th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Katy Perry was singing about loving Jesus and look where it was getting her, no where. Now she's singing about getting some alien dick and she's got fans left and right.

:sobbing:

LeRoy.
Apr 19th, 2011, 09:26 PM
FFvE9D3zMfY

égalité
Apr 19th, 2011, 09:50 PM
Seriously, this bitch needs to back off my religion!

It's her religion too. You don't own it. :weirdo:

CrossCourt~Rally
Apr 19th, 2011, 09:55 PM
Katy Perry was singing about loving Jesus and look where it was getting her, no where. Now she's singing about getting some alien dick and she's got fans left and right.

:happy:

Nicolás89
Apr 19th, 2011, 10:58 PM
I don't think that Judas is about religion, I think is more about a backstabbing love. The name Judas may be used as both a reference for THE betrayal and obviously as THE shock value.

LeRoy.
Apr 20th, 2011, 12:23 AM
So i guess the consensus is that while she may be talented, right now she is courting controversy to sell records while her music suffers. Most of you'd rather that she just relied on her talent to make good music.

Pops Maellard
Apr 20th, 2011, 12:28 AM
So i guess the consensus is that while she may be talented, right now she is courting controversy to sell records while her music suffers. Most of you'd rather that she just relied on her talent to make good music.
Yes. Couldn't have said it better.

LeRoy.
Apr 20th, 2011, 12:32 AM
Lady Gaga: “I am not full of sh!t, are you?”
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pfyCa2UZk6s/Ta2u-EDPq8I/AAAAAAAAAEo/CVE52mWGlQI/s320/gaga_nme2.jpg
Riding the hype for Gaga’s new album before it starts to dwindle, Lady Gaga is pasted on the cover of NME (http://www.nme.com/news/lady-gaga/56214) magazine. Posing with her Woohoo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiEAy1LoOTk) zipped and plastered with a see-through outfit, the eccentric singer addresses those who label her as a manufactured act.

“Let me tell you something. If you f*ckin’ rip (http://themusicmessiah.blogspot.com/2011/04/lady-gaga-i-am-not-full-of-sht-are-you.html) my hairbow and my wig off my f*ckin’ head, my shoes, my bra, every single thing on my body, and you throw me on a piano with a microphone, I will f*ckin make you cry. I’m not going to start churning out what you expect. If you want me to be a manufactured (http://themusicmessiah.blogspot.com/2011/04/lady-gaga-i-am-not-full-of-sht-are-you.html) act, you can f*ck off”

Well, if she recycles what other artists already did, then she shouldn’t be surprised that people overlook her talent and will know her as “The Controversy”.

Not only does she address her critics, but compares herself to John Lennon, in a sense that she struggles to feel completely happy with her songs: "I am perpetually unhappy with what I create," she said. "Even though I might tell you that 'Edge Of Glory' is a pop masterpiece, when it's all said and finished there will be things I dread, and every time I listen to it I'll hear them." She also adds: “In John Lennon's [1980] Playboy interview he talked about how he hated certain songs because of the way they were finished. And they might be my favourite songs, but Lennon couldn't listen to them."

We are all not happy with the songs you have written so far for this era Gaga, because we know that you can do better. Oh how I miss the fun and mysterious Gaga…

http://themusicmessiah.blogspot.com/2011/04/lady-gaga-i-am-not-full-of-sht-are-you.html

The article talks about everything that a lot of you have been hinting at.

Lady Gaga, stop being so defensive and angry all the time. Also, we are convinced you don't have a penis so you can stop now. No need to try so hard. :D

Sp!ffy
Apr 20th, 2011, 12:51 AM
I...just can't anymore...:facepalm:

:facepalm:

Brooks.
Apr 20th, 2011, 02:25 AM
When she starts saying things like "this song is a pop masterpiece" or "this album is the album of the decade/a generation" she's just asking to be ridiculed. Who talks about their own music/work like that? She has to put those ideas into her little monsters' heads, so that they will regurgitate and believe it to be the truth. How is that liberating and inspiring your fans? Why don't you let the public decide for themselves, if something is worthy of praise. It screams desperation, when you constantly hype everything you do as "life-changing and/or legendary."

And comparing herself to John Lennon is just laughable. She can't even compare herself to Britney Spears, at this point. She's been around, what, two years? Plenty of people have been the hot thing in music and disappeared within 5 years. Give me a break!

Tennisation
Apr 20th, 2011, 02:59 AM
When she starts saying things like "this song is a pop masterpiece" or "this album is the album of the decade/a generation" she's just asking to be ridiculed. Who talks about their own music/work like that? She has to put those ideas into her little monsters' heads, so that they will regurgitate and believe it to be the truth. How is that liberating and inspiring your fans? Why don't you let the public decide for themselves, if something is worthy of praise. It screams desperation, when you constantly hype everything you do as "life-changing and/or legendary."

And comparing herself to John Lennon is just laughable.She can't even compare herself to Britney Spears, at this point. She's been around, what, two years? Plenty of people have been the hot thing in music and disappeared within 5 years. Give me a break!Don't forget about Whitney Houston. Bitch was imagining Whitney singing Born This Way when she wrote it :haha:

So Disrespectful
Apr 20th, 2011, 04:08 AM
Yet again her lyrics have the whiff of pretentious first year poetry student.

LeRoy.
Apr 20th, 2011, 06:50 AM
Lady GaGa broke down in tears (as usual) during her recent interview with NME magazine after being questioned over the similarities between her hit “Born this Way” and Madonna’s classic “Express Yourself”. A bit of it does sound quite a lot like ‘Express Yourself’, though, doesn’t it?
“I don’t think… I swear to you. I am not stupid enough to put out a record and be that moronic.”
The reference seemed so obvious that it had to be intentional because, as you say, you’re not stupid…
“No. Listen to me. Why the fuck…? I’m a songwriter. I’ve written loads of music. Why would I try to put out a song and think I’m getting one over on everybody? That’s retarded. What a completely ridiculous thing to even question me about. I will look you in your eyes and tell you that I am not dumb enough or moronic enough to think that you are dumb enough or moronic enough not to see that I would have stolen a melody. If you put the songs next to each other, side by side, the only similarities are the chord progression. It’s the same one that’s been in disco music for the last 50 years. Just because I’m the first fucking artist in 25 years to think of putting it on Top 40 radio, it doesn’t mean I’m a plagiarist, it means that I’m fucking smart. Sorry.”
The criticism did seem to take the wind out of the song’s sails.
“There’s a lot of people who want to see me fail. The minute they see something to shoot at, they shoot, and the bigger I become the bigger target I am. Nobody in this room at any point looked around and said ‘Oh my God, it’s ‘Express Yourself’. ‘ Not once. Listen. I swear to you. I can only be honest with you about it.”
What will people say about ‘Judas’?
“I dunno… I think they will really love it. (Starting to well up) I just don’t want my fans… I don’t know. This is exhausting. I just don’t wanna perpetuate that shit. I’m sure you want to address it but it’s just so ridiculous. I was just fucking shellshocked by it. It’s so funny to hear you say, ‘It must have been a homage’, I’m like, NO. When I homage, I fucking homage with a big sign saying I’ve done it. Why would I not do that now? (Sighs) I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) I feel like honestly that God sent me those lyrics and that melody. When you feel a message to give to the world and people are shooting arrows at it… there’s no way for something that pure to be wrong. (Reaches for Marilyn Monroe lighter) I need a cigarette.”
Who knew that it was so easy to send GaGa into meltdown mode?
It’s all very interesting to hear her swearing black and blue that the similarities were unintentional. Especially after the back ‘n’ forth that went on between GaGa and Madge after “Born this Way” premiered.
The drama started when Madonna randomly uploaded the 1989 VMAs performance of “Express Yourself” onto her official Youtube. GaGa subtly retaliated the next day by performing “Born this Way” at the Grammy awards rocking a similar version of Madonna’s iconic platinum ponytail from the Blonde Ambition tour, followed by an odd acceptance speech in which she thanked Whitney Houston for giving her the strength to write “Born this Way” — if you know your diva history, then you’d know that Whitney and Madonna were notorious enemies throughout the 1990s. Shade to the highest power.
GaGa followed up her Grammy performance by announcing on Jay Leno that Madonna and her team e-mailed her their blessings over “Born this Way”. Madonna’s rep then hilariously told CNN that they were “unaware” of any such e-mail having been sent.
Somethin’ in the milk ain’t clean!


:facepalm:

silverwhite
Apr 20th, 2011, 07:21 AM
So i guess the consensus is that while she may be talented, right now she is courting controversy to sell records while her music suffers. Most of you'd rather that she just relied on her talent to make good music.

Agreed

Beat
Apr 20th, 2011, 07:24 AM
"I am perpetually unhappy with what I create,"

well, we know what you mean, lady gaga, we really do.

silverwhite
Apr 20th, 2011, 07:29 AM
In other news, Femme Fatale sold 42,000 copies this week, for a grand total of 393,000 in its first three weeks.

So typical. Commercial success isn't everything you know, little monster? :lol:

Tennisation
Apr 20th, 2011, 07:40 AM
You would know that best out of all of us, obviously.

Anyways, I'm just pointing out that LeRoy only keeps these Gaga and Beyonce threads going to distract everyone from Britney's failing album. It's so transparent and desperate.Just like how Lady Gaga is resorting to religious and political antics to distract littler monsters from the fact that mother monster has ran her course and is running out of ideas.

Bismarck.
Apr 20th, 2011, 07:43 AM
Those interviews. :facepalm: She's even dumber than we previously thought, guys.

young_gunner913
Apr 20th, 2011, 08:08 AM
Just like how Lady Gaga is resorting to religious and political antics to distract littler monsters from the fact that mother monster has ran her course and is running out of ideas.

What should she be singing about? Sex with aliens like the current number one song? :lol:

silverwhite
Apr 20th, 2011, 08:21 AM
You would know that best out of all of us, obviously.

Anyways, I'm just pointing out that LeRoy only keeps these Gaga and Beyonce threads going to distract everyone from Britney's failing album. It's so transparent and desperate.

There you go. Those 2 statements only prove my point. Thanks for doing it for me :lol:

silverwhite
Apr 20th, 2011, 08:23 AM
I can't wait until the album comes and shits all over every single person in this thread.


Here we go again. One-track mind much? :lol:

The only way it will "shit all over" me is if it manages to impress me. The songs from her that I like the most are Bad Romance and Speechless :wavey:

silverwhite
Apr 20th, 2011, 08:24 AM
Just like how Lady Gaga is resorting to religious and political antics to distract littler monsters from the fact that mother monster has ran her course and is running out of ideas.

Wow. I actually agree with Tennisation :eek:

Root
Apr 20th, 2011, 09:24 AM
"I feel like honestly that God sent me those lyrics and that melody."

(Reaches for Marilyn Monroe lighter) I need a cigarette.

:haha:



I can't wait until the album comes and shits all over every single person in this thread.

Why are you so defensive? Relax.

Bismarck.
Apr 20th, 2011, 09:27 AM
I can't wait until the album comes and shits all over every single person in this thread.

Well, it won't, will it? We've already heard enough material from it to know that it will be mediocre at best and even if it does sell billions that won't change our judgements. :lol:

Pops Maellard
Apr 20th, 2011, 10:20 AM
What should she be singing about? Sex with aliens like the current number one song? :lol:

Well it does bear slight resemblance to the lyrics of "Monster". :p

Apoleb
Apr 20th, 2011, 01:00 PM
I don't think that Judas is about religion, I think is more about a backstabbing love. The name Judas may be used as both a reference for THE betrayal and obviously as THE shock value.

:lol: There's nothing to analyze in Judas. She's torn between Jesus and Judas, really? :lol: There has to be a degree of sicerity and (human) expression for the song to be worthy of analysis, and Gaga's music lacks any of it. There's also a complete disconnect between the music and any supposed expression. The songwriting is just based on building melodic catchy lines, and then throwing obvious attention-whoring or whatever. It's a mockery of pop music, really.

Dominic
Apr 20th, 2011, 02:50 PM
And she still keeps singing live!! :worship:

Your fave could neva.

dude are you serious? Even for someone who likes Gaga that's annoying as hell.

Whitehead's Boy
Apr 20th, 2011, 03:15 PM
Isn't it interesting how the Madonnas and Lady Gagas of the world always try to shock the world with Christianity.

How come her clever marketing Haus of Gaga team don't write a song called I'm in love with Muhammad the prophet?

Talula
Apr 20th, 2011, 03:20 PM
Isn't it interesting how the Madonnas and Lady Gagas of the world always try to shock the world with Christianity.

How come her clever marketing Haus of Gaga team don't write a song called I'm in love with Muhammad the prophet?

Maybe because Christianity is a soft touch? Cowardice? Of course they will say it's because they were both raised Roman Catholics........at least Madonna was doing this 25 years ago. Ga ga is just a plagiarist.

Mynarco
Apr 20th, 2011, 03:55 PM
Maybe because Christianity is a soft touch? Cowardice? Of course they will say it's because they were both raised Roman Catholics........at least Madonna was doing this 25 years ago. Ga ga is just a plagiarist.
She should at least be inventive. She should write a song to piss off Islam

Ciarán
Apr 20th, 2011, 04:07 PM
Or because Judas is the ultimate image of betrayal and the whole Christianity thing followed. I don't think she or the Haus set out like 'OMFG amaze idea no-one has ever done before, LETS PROVOKE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!!!!'. When clearly Madonna's 'Like A Prayer' video is one of the most controversial of all time. Lady GaGa is not retarded or stupid enough to do that. It's solely about the image and personification of betrayal, not a provocation of the Catholic church or any Christian related religious beliefs.

Elwin.
Apr 20th, 2011, 04:08 PM
This thread
http://www.ninjadude.com/images/Britney-Spears/britney-spears-crying.jpg

slamchamp
Apr 20th, 2011, 04:15 PM
lol Gaga is losing it..at least britney lasted like 7 years before she melted

Melange
Apr 20th, 2011, 04:18 PM
Isn't it interesting how the Madonnas and Lady Gagas of the world always try to shock the world with Christianity.

How come her clever marketing Haus of Gaga team don't write a song called I'm in love with Muhammad the prophet?

Then she will get young muslim boys coming up to her carrying backpacks. The biggest outrage Madonna caused to the church was portraying a black Christ. You can wear your crucifixes, but how dare you show Christ as black, everyone knows he had long blond hair.

Whitehead's Boy
Apr 20th, 2011, 04:33 PM
Or because Judas is the ultimate image of betrayal and the whole Christianity thing followed. I don't think she or the Haus set out like 'OMFG amaze idea no-one has ever done before, LETS PROVOKE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!!!!'. When clearly Madonna's 'Like A Prayer' video is one of the most controversial of all time. Lady GaGa is not retarded or stupid enough to do that. It's solely about the image and personification of betrayal, not a provocation of the Catholic church or any Christian related religious beliefs.

Surely you're not that naive. I'm sure Gaga woke up and thought: "let's write a song about betrayal". :rolleyes: Her "art" (especially recently) is all about pushing attention-whoring to the new level and desesperate attempts to "shock" and "provoke". She picked something about the RCC religion because she knows it would provoke reactions.

BuTtErFrEnA
Apr 20th, 2011, 04:37 PM
Just like how Lady Gaga is resorting to religious and political antics to distract littler monsters from the fact that mother monster has ran her course and is running out of ideas.

:lol:

silverwhite
Apr 20th, 2011, 05:08 PM
Surely you're not that naive. I'm sure Gaga woke up and thought: "let's write a song about betrayal". :rolleyes: Her "art" (especially recently) is all about pushing attention-whoring to the new level and desesperate attempts to "shock" and "provoke". She picked something about the RCC religion because she knows it would provoke reactions.

Agreed. Her singing about Judas has provoked/is going to provoke reactions from Christians and I don't believe for a second that she didn't foresee that from the start

LeRoy.
Apr 20th, 2011, 05:18 PM
You would know that best out of all of us, obviously.

Anyways, I'm just pointing out that LeRoy only keeps these Gaga and Beyonce threads going to distract everyone from Britney's failing album. It's so transparent and desperate.

The awkward moment when the remix of a song that has been out for over 14 weeks featuring Britney Spears snatches Lady Gaga's weave !!

You mad ??

New_balls_please
Apr 20th, 2011, 05:32 PM
As a smart person that I am, I have learned not to take GaGa's stuff too seriously. Basically, I try to enjoy her music and her unique style. Who the fuck cares is she's provoking the Catholic Church with her music? As if the Catholic Church doesn't have enough problems :haha:
You guys are waisting your time bitching all the time :lol:

LeRoy.
Apr 20th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Its all starting to come undone very quickly.


The Lady Gaga backlash begins

The self-appointed queen of gay culture has offended fans she claims to represent. Is it a sign that her star is on the wane?


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2011/4/20/1303292781784/Lady-Gaga-006.jpg
Torchbearer? ... Lady Gaga's Born This Way has upset some of her gay fans. Photograph: Rick Diamond/Getty Images

Have we reached a tipping point in the Lady Gaga (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/lady-gaga) saga? In the week that the singer graces the cover of NME for the first time, a backlash has already gathered steam in the gay community.
Among her supposed heartland of gay men, there's growing evidence of fans starting to turn on her (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-02-14/lady-gagas-new-single-born-this-way-makes-gays-turn-on-her) – many of whom feel she has no right to declare herself as the ambassador of "queer culture".
Gaga, to be fair, didn't have to try hard to be accepted as a "gay icon". There's a certain mainstream gay sensibility that tends to adopt blonde female pop stars as their own, and her relentless tweeting about gay rights (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gay-rights), the impassioned stance against Don't Ask Don't Tell in the US military and yes, I suppose the dresses too, earned her a place as a credible advocate. But recently, the wheels seem to be falling off, and sadly not from that ridiculous motorbike (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/apr/18/lady-gaga-born-this-way-artwork).
It started with the release of Born This Way. Any song built up with such a torrent of pre-publicity (my favourite tweet from that week: "Can't wait for tomorrow's exclusive reveal of the barcode!") has to be pretty incredible to not get crushed under the weight of its own expectation. And it misfired on all levels.
The gay blogosphere (http://www.advocate.com/Arts_and_Entertainment/Media/The_Lady_in_The_Slaughter) soon exploded into a flurry of backlash and counter-backlash (http://thirtymale.com/2011/02/12/lady-gaga-deserves-better-than-rosens-misguided-backlash), based mainly on a sense of disappointment with the song. At least that's how it started.
But as the world lived with Born This Way, a deeper disquiet began to emerge, and the heavy-handed way that the song assumed stewardship of an entire portion of humanity began to breed real resentment, from the forums to the dancefloor to the word on the street. Fact of matter: most gay people don't consider themselves to be freaks and outsiders, as is suggested in the lyrics (http://www.directlyrics.com/lady-gaga-born-this-way-lyrics.html), but perfectly normal people whose sexual orientation just happens to be wired a certain way. And they won't thank you for attempting to lead a Pied Piper march back into the ghetto with all the subtlety of a diamond-encrusted sledgehammer.
Of course, when there are still gay teen suicides, same-sex couples being ejected from the John Snow (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/apr/15/john-snow-kiss-in-london), and Proposition 8 then we clearly haven't won all of the battles against homophobia. But we're a lot closer to the dream where sexual orientation doesn't define a person, but is a quality of their personality no more or less significant than their political affiliation or the colour of their hair. As we march towards true equality, the whole idea of a "gay culture" becomes more and more meaningless as the world accepts the truth that gay people aren't all the same. In the face of that, Born This Way was at best a backward step, in the middle a touch cynical and, at worst, downright offensive.
It's a shame because it was the first real misstep in an otherwise faultlessly judged career. But if Gaga really has alienated her most loyal fans, she may yet have more to worry about than a few religious zealots picketing her shows (http://www.gaganews.com/2009/12/24/the-ladygaygay-story).




http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/apr/20/lady-gaga-backlash-begins

:awww:

iGOAT
Apr 20th, 2011, 05:55 PM
You guys are so pressed :help: the hate thread on GaGa (with the main comparison being Kitty Purry) has more posts than the Kitty worship thread.

miffedmax
Apr 20th, 2011, 06:19 PM
Madonna accusing someone else of plagiarism?

:haha:

http://www.aishamusic.com/lawsuit_many_artists_madonna_stole_from.htm

http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2005/11/18/madonna-loses-plagiarism-lawsuit/

Whitehead's Boy
Apr 20th, 2011, 06:48 PM
Madonna accusing someone else of plagiarism?

:haha:

http://www.aishamusic.com/lawsuit_many_artists_madonna_stole_from.htm

http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2005/11/18/madonna-loses-plagiarism-lawsuit/

1) Madonna has never accused Gaga of plagiarism. Please inform yourself.

2) "Frozen" sounds nothing like the obscure song in French, and in all likeliness it wasn't plagiarism.

Talula
Apr 20th, 2011, 08:59 PM
Madonna accusing someone else of plagiarism?

:haha:

http://www.aishamusic.com/lawsuit_many_artists_madonna_stole_from.htm

http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2005/11/18/madonna-loses-plagiarism-lawsuit/

Difference is that Madonna was doing all of this over a quarter of a century ago, with more flair, aplomb, and originality. Also, whereas Madonna's image and statements on various issues appeared genuine and belonging to her, Ga Ga is manufactured and designed to be a certain way. It isn't coming from her heart or soul. I very much doubt GG will be around a fraction of the time Madonna has.

Sp!ffy
Apr 20th, 2011, 09:02 PM
Its all starting to come undone very quickly.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/apr/20/lady-gaga-backlash-begins

:awww:

Omfg. This is exactly what I said a few pages ago. :weirdo: Gays don't want to be stereotyped into this retarded "little monster" thing that GaGa keeps spewing out there.

It's going to be hilarious when GaGa realizes that her gay fan base is decreasing...and then all of a sudden she's going to stop caring about gay rights. :lol:

Oh well, I'm sure Gaga's sperm-flavored perfume will keep making her millions. :happy::oh:

LeRoy.
Apr 20th, 2011, 09:08 PM
And while fans were claiming her new single "Judas" would debut at #1, she comes in at #10. :awww:

Some "little monsters" really need to be put on suicide watch pronto. (Michelle?)

young_gunner913
Apr 20th, 2011, 09:14 PM
Omfg. This is exactly what I said a few pages ago. :weirdo: Gays don't want to be stereotyped into this retarded "little monster" thing that GaGa keeps spewing out there.

It's going to be hilarious when GaGa realizes that her gay fan base is decreasing...and then all of a sudden she's going to stop caring about gay rights. :lol:

Oh well, I'm sure Gaga's sperm-flavored perfume will keep making her millions. :happy::oh:

The term little monsters is used for her fans, not just for her gay fans. And for the gays that don't like her and aren't fans, that term wouldn't apply obviously therefore why should they even care? A "little monster" is one of the least things a gay man has to be worried about getting called these days. Before you troll and write stupid shit, do something new and maybe think it out a little more. It may help in the future.

slamchamp
Apr 20th, 2011, 09:14 PM
And I would like to say here that I sorta embrace the Gaga-hate chat thread now and I hope it makes it to the Chat Threads section. It would truly show the power of Lady Gaga to have a Fan chat thread and Hater chat thread :D I won't be posting in there any more though; you can't win an argument with an idiot :D
Fair enough cause u cant win either against an idiotic blinded fan

Talula
Apr 20th, 2011, 09:32 PM
The term little monsters is used for her fans, not just for her gay fans. And for the gays that don't like her and aren't fans, that term wouldn't apply obviously therefore why should they even care? A "little monster" is one of the least things a gay man has to be worried about getting called these days. Before you troll and write stupid shit, do something new and maybe think it out a little more. It may help in the future.

But I think a large portion of her audience are a certain section of gay males. I think she has a narrower audience than the likes of Kylie and Madonna. A number of gay males I know get sick of having pop stars announcing themselves as gay icons, or people thinking that some performers are gay icons. Many of my gay friends are embarrassed by Ga Ga and Liza Minnelli, whereas most believed Madonna was an icon and have a very soft spot for Minogue! But it may be just my circle of friends! Anyway, I think people, gay and straight, are finally seeing through GG, and her desperation to 'shock' is alienating a broader fan base. Madonna of course did enjoy shocking folks, but it seemed she really had something to say at the time for the time. But even she came a cropper when she over cooked it around the time of Erotica and the Sex book. At least though it was new, GG is just pillaging and presenting what was done decades ago and what she thinks will appear shocking. It's like a child pretending to be naughty.