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Julian.
Mar 9th, 2011, 09:37 AM
Mar 9, 2011
Romanian woman, 23, is world's youngest granny

http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/image/20110309/bn1.jpg

A ROMANIAN woman is the world's youngest grandmother, aged 23, British tabloid The Sun reported.

Mother of two, Rifca Stanescu was 12 when she had her first child Maria. A year later she had a son, Nicolae.

Mrs Stanescu was 11 when she married 13-year-old jewellery seller Ionel Stanescu. They eloped because Mrs Stanescu feared her father would want her to marry another man. Mrs Stanescu said she had been forgiven by her family after giving birth to Maria.

The young mother wanted Maria to have a different life and urged her to stay at school.

However, Maria got married when she was 10 years old. Six months later, she gave birth to son Ion at age 11. -- KOREA HERALD/ANN

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_643106.html

ivanban
Mar 9th, 2011, 10:04 AM
I'm sorry, but she looks like 53 :scared: :help:

Bijoux0021
Mar 9th, 2011, 10:07 AM
Is she really 23-years old? :confused: She looks at least 45 years-old in the above picture. :tape:

Very distrubing that it's possible for girls this young to have babies. :sad: This is not right at all.

ivanban
Mar 9th, 2011, 10:13 AM
Is she really 23-years old? :confused: She looks at least 45 years-old in the above picture. :tape:

Very distrubing that it's possible for girls this young to have babies. :sad: This is not right at all.

Romania has law for witches, so this isn't THAT surprising :tears:

ElusiveChanteuse
Mar 9th, 2011, 10:35 AM
Well you'd look older quickly after giving birth I guess.:shrug:

Caralenko
Mar 9th, 2011, 10:39 AM
Alla Kudryavtseva? :eek:

Just Do It
Mar 9th, 2011, 10:40 AM
Romanian babushka :lol:

Julian.
Mar 9th, 2011, 10:53 AM
Alla Kudryavtseva? :eek:

That's exactly what I was thinking :sobbing:

skanky~skanketta
Mar 9th, 2011, 11:32 AM
WTF? Ew.

Mrs. Dimitrova
Mar 9th, 2011, 11:35 AM
Is it normal for people to marry as a child in Romania? I think last time we had similar news it was also in Romania. :scratch:

Just Do It
Mar 9th, 2011, 11:38 AM
^ There are many Gypsy people in Romania ( biggest % in Europe ), those marring early are almost always gypsy.

The Witch-king
Mar 9th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Sad.

new-york
Mar 9th, 2011, 01:02 PM
Mar 9, 2011
Romanian woman, 23, is world's youngest granny

http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/image/20110309/bn1.jpg



She does look way older.

Her father looks very young on the other hand.

Nicolas
Mar 9th, 2011, 01:10 PM
Is it normal for people to marry as a child in Romania? I think last time we had similar news it was also in Romania. :scratch:

Only in Tzigans minority.

The girl DOES look like Kudryatseva :eek:

Mistress of Evil
Mar 9th, 2011, 02:46 PM
Well, I have seen 24-28 year-old grannies on the news. Its not a bombshell or sth. :shrug: It may sound racist but in all of these cases its about gypsies. I have nothing against them. But some months ago I watched that an 11-year-old girl gave birth and she do not even know what a condom is:o The father was a 19-year-old cousin of hers :help:

Super Dave
Mar 9th, 2011, 02:59 PM
Mar 9, 2011
Romanian woman, 23, is world's youngest granny

http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/image/20110309/bn1.jpg


So who's the kid? I'm not getting something.

njnetswill
Mar 9th, 2011, 02:59 PM
Is it safe to have babies at age 10 or 11? How many of these girls are dying during childbirth? Pregnancy and labor are so physically taxing.

Certinfy
Mar 9th, 2011, 03:14 PM
:eek: Wow.

FORZA SARITA
Mar 9th, 2011, 03:38 PM
she looks like Kudryatseva :oh:

FORZA SARITA
Mar 9th, 2011, 03:39 PM
So who's the kid? I'm not getting something.

that's not her daughter near Alla?:happy:

gentenaire
Mar 9th, 2011, 06:06 PM
I recently read an interview with a social worker who works with Roma gypsies. They place an extremely high importance on virginity. It's hard to convince parents to keep their daughters in school after they turn 12, because they worry they might lose their virginity. So they marry them off at 12 to be certain they're a virgin when they're getting married.
And of course, this way there's no way for them to ever become a functioning part of society. They live off welfare, earnings from begging in the streets and in some cases stealing.

Curcubeu
Mar 9th, 2011, 06:14 PM
Am I the first Romanian who is comenting that... :o

Yes, this story is a big topic in our newspaper, but not because it is something Romanian people have never heard of, but another way of stirring up the hate against gypsy people. At least I have the impression of that. You may know that gypsies are a big topic in our politics and many people here hate them (often without a reason, but sometimes there are some).

It is just sad that those stories will always have a negative impact on our country. For example just looking at the headline "Youngest mother from Romania" which implies that Romanians have an unsocial or backward attitude towards life by marrying their children, having babies at 12 etc.

There are several other political discussions like the new established tax for fortune tellers or "witches", which looks like Romanians are a bunch of uncivilized supersticious people believing in magic... :o
But that 95% of those "witches" are gypsies is of course not said.. :rolleyes:

Another even bigger topic was the expulsion of many "Roma" gypsies from France to Romania which was debated in newspaper all around Europe. People who don't know much about our culture tend to say: "Those Romanians are a people full of thiefs and unsocial gypsies" or even think that all Romanians are gypsies. :help:

I'm traveling a lot and was shocked when people asked me if my family also rides by carriage from town to town. :hysteric:

I'm happy that people on this board, at least the ones from Eastern Europe know that often the gypsies causes trouble and I claim that without being racist because it's often the case.
I hope you also know that Romanians have Roman and Dacian ancestors and speak a Latin language, whereas gypsies came from India to invade Europe in the Middle Ages.

I can understand that many Romanian people hate them for their bad reputation, but it's the same as in other Eastern European countries, too, where many gypsies are living. But Romania has the biggest rate, so it's up to us. :lol:

By the way, she is not the only "Romanian" grandma in the 20s. :o

pov
Mar 9th, 2011, 09:59 PM
This was near to the norm in mots of the world not too long ago.

pov
Mar 9th, 2011, 10:02 PM
Is it safe to have babies at age 10 or 11? How many of these girls are dying during childbirth? Pregnancy and labor are so physically taxing.
I'd guess that it's no more or less safe than at any other age. And pregnancy doesn't have to be overly taxing.

Ryan
Mar 9th, 2011, 10:38 PM
What a whore. :lol:

Vincey!
Mar 9th, 2011, 11:55 PM
yes she looks like an old Kudryattseva lol Quite disturbing tbh, I mean two kids marrying together and already havin sex and making babies? uh That's weird! lol

Andy.
Mar 9th, 2011, 11:56 PM
Vile

Tennisation
Mar 10th, 2011, 12:41 AM
Girlfriend is NOT 23!

Joana
Mar 10th, 2011, 12:50 AM
Something's not right about that picture. That really looks like a photo of a 45 year old woman and a 6 year old girl, unlike anything mentioned in the article. :confused:

Ziggy Starduck
Mar 10th, 2011, 12:53 AM
Is it safe to have babies at age 10 or 11? How many of these girls are dying during childbirth? Pregnancy and labor are so physically taxing.

I wouldn't have thought so, the birthmother's body is still in development stage (it should be noted that her pelvis would still be in 3 pieces and not fused properly, giving birth prior to fusing can result in reproductive organ damage). I don't know the stats on mortality rates. Yes especially if the mother-to-be has inadequate nutrition etc, I doubt these women are treated to high quality medical care either.

I can't judge her.

Scotso
Mar 10th, 2011, 01:41 AM
I'd guess that it's no more or less safe than at any other age. And pregnancy doesn't have to be overly taxing.

That's not true. It's far more dangerous. We're not talking about a 16 year old... these girls are barely starting to develop and are still really small.

Sally Struthers
Mar 10th, 2011, 01:45 AM
on the bright side, at least she looks like one

CrossCourt~Rally
Mar 10th, 2011, 01:46 AM
on the bright side, at least she looks like one

:oh:

Dominic
Mar 10th, 2011, 02:11 AM
How on earth can someone be 23 and look like that?

miffedmax
Mar 10th, 2011, 02:31 AM
That's not true. It's far more dangerous. We're not talking about a 16 year old... these girls are barely starting to develop and are still really small.

You are correct--and even a 16-year-old is far from physically ready for motherhood. Younger mothers (under 19) are at much higher risk for preclampsia, which can cause long-term organ damage for the mother. They are also more likely to give birth to premature babies and low weight babies, which can lead to infant deaths, delayed development and host of other problems.

While it's not necessarily an age factor, younger mothers are statistically less likely to receive good prenatal care and this leads to more health complications for both mother and child.

Generally, along with improved hygiene, postponing childbearing until the late teens and 20s is one of the reason for the huge drop in both maternity and infant death rates in the industrialized world.

homogenius
Mar 10th, 2011, 03:08 AM
This was near to the norm in mots of the world not too long ago.

And it's still happening in a lot of countries (especially in Africa and South Asia)but it doesn't make it right imo : 10/11 y.o girls shouldn't gettting married and/or having kids.

Julian.
Mar 10th, 2011, 03:10 AM
on the bright side, at least she looks like one

:sobbing:

Wigglytuff
Mar 10th, 2011, 10:34 AM
wow its sad. she looks way way older than 23 :( it makes me wonder if this shortens her life expectancy. the price placed on virginity seems way too high to me. if anything can be said, at least she married a bou her age and not some 60 year old perv??

Lord Choc Ice
Mar 10th, 2011, 11:36 AM
23? :eek:

1) Ewww.
2) She looks as old as the hills. :tape:

Beat
Mar 10th, 2011, 11:40 AM
I'm traveling a lot and was shocked when people asked me if my family also rides by carriage from town to town. :hysteric:

seriously? some people, ts ts ... :help:

hurricanejeanne
Mar 10th, 2011, 01:32 PM
I'm assuming she's a gypsy, in that sense, this is probably more the norm than it would be elsewhere. Still weird in this day and age though.

kris719
Mar 10th, 2011, 04:25 PM
wow didn't know that was even possible :lol:

Ferg
Mar 10th, 2011, 04:31 PM
Am I the first Romanian who is comenting that... :o

Yes, this story is a big topic in our newspaper, but not because it is something Romanian people have never heard of, but another way of stirring up the hate against gypsy people. At least I have the impression of that. You may know that gypsies are a big topic in our politics and many people here hate them (often without a reason, but sometimes there are some).

It is just sad that those stories will always have a negative impact on our country. For example just looking at the headline "Youngest mother from Romania" which implies that Romanians have an unsocial or backward attitude towards life by marrying their children, having babies at 12 etc.

There are several other political discussions like the new established tax for fortune tellers or "witches", which looks like Romanians are a bunch of uncivilized supersticious people believing in magic... :o
But that 95% of those "witches" are gypsies is of course not said.. :rolleyes:

Another even bigger topic was the expulsion of many "Roma" gypsies from France to Romania which was debated in newspaper all around Europe. People who don't know much about our culture tend to say: "Those Romanians are a people full of thiefs and unsocial gypsies" or even think that all Romanians are gypsies. :help:

I'm traveling a lot and was shocked when people asked me if my family also rides by carriage from town to town. :hysteric:

I'm happy that people on this board, at least the ones from Eastern Europe know that often the gypsies causes trouble and I claim that without being racist because it's often the case.
I hope you also know that Romanians have Roman and Dacian ancestors and speak a Latin language, whereas gypsies came from India to invade Europe in the Middle Ages.

I can understand that many Romanian people hate them for their bad reputation, but it's the same as in other Eastern European countries, too, where many gypsies are living. But Romania has the biggest rate, so it's up to us. :lol:

By the way, she is not the only "Romanian" grandma in the 20s. :o


If its any consolation my brother was asked in a pub in England if he was a traveller because he has an Irish accent. I always make sure to differentiate between the Roma and the Romanian people.

Shuji Shuriken
Mar 10th, 2011, 05:11 PM
23 in human years or dog years? Disturbing nonetheless...

Mynarco
Mar 10th, 2011, 05:19 PM
on the bright side, at least she looks like one

:lol:

doomsday
Mar 10th, 2011, 05:21 PM
Wooow impressive.:eek:

miffedmax
Mar 10th, 2011, 07:29 PM
Clearly, the best way to avoid these situations (and one that all young ladies should emulate) is to be accompanied everywhere by your mommy until you are 29 years old. That way you can stay a virgin AND put off getting pregnant until you are an adult. If you're really lucky, you might also win a gold medal, but I wouldn't count on that. Also, you shouldn't trim your bangs, but that's a different topic.

Just Do It
Mar 10th, 2011, 07:37 PM
I'm traveling a lot and was shocked when people asked me if my family also rides by carriage from town to town. :hysteric:

I laughed out loud :hysteric: I bet they meant something like this
http://www.simkovich.org/photogallery/Photos/Turja%20Pasika/07%20Gypsies%20(Cigani)%20in%20Turja%20Pasika.JPG
or more moedrn
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3036/cigani9yijf6.jpg

Curcubeu
Mar 10th, 2011, 07:44 PM
Yes, that comes close to it :lol:

But typical gypsy carriages are painted and made like a caravan with enough room for living in :o

Just Do It
Mar 10th, 2011, 08:00 PM
Serbian tsigani aren't that advanced, sorry :sobbing:

Curcubeu
Mar 10th, 2011, 08:06 PM
NO, I talked about the stereotyped idea most of the people have when asking such questions. ;)

The Roma here most often don't travel anymore. They are living in the poor and derelict suburbs of our cities, most often without a job, bullying, thiefing and listening to Manele... :lol:

But there are also some nice gypsies in the country-side, but they have very strict traditions and codes, like marrying their children at the age of 12... :sobbing:

ivanban
Mar 10th, 2011, 10:01 PM
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3036/cigani9yijf6.jpg

:hysteric: Is that BG car-registration emerging at the right bottom of pic?!!! :bigcry:

Serbian tsigani aren't that advanced, sorry :sobbing:

:hysteric: :facepalm: *DEAD*

hellas719
Mar 11th, 2011, 05:13 AM
In Greece they usually have red pick-up trucks and in the trunk they have either fruit (usually watermelons) and then other things that they try to sell like old and/or broken tables, chairs, plates, etc. :rolls:

Curcubeu
Mar 11th, 2011, 08:07 AM
Wow, they are motorized! :eek: