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Sammo
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:52 AM
Look at how hungry of winning was Anna-Lena Groenefeld back in 2005, fit, empowered, determined, it's just amazing...
OMG and Pam Shriver talking about Groenefeld as an extremely fit player, ALG :sobbing:
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dynamoRockstarr
Mar 5th, 2011, 02:02 AM
Super fit, scary tennis! Aggressive!

Davodus
Mar 5th, 2011, 02:15 AM
Yeah it's great but she wasn't happy :shrug: The only reason she was thin like that was because of how Font de Mora made her train, so I don't see it as particularly fantastic.

Dani12
Mar 5th, 2011, 02:35 AM
Players to watch, Vaidisova, Kostanic and Ivanovic :sad:

So Disrespectful
Mar 5th, 2011, 03:17 AM
And now, Anna-Lena Groenefeld is ready to play doubles at 25Ks!

darrinbaker00
Mar 5th, 2011, 03:23 AM
I was at that Stanford match against Clijsters. I was quite impressed with Anna-Lena, and I was quite surprised when she fell. I honestly thought she would be a permanent fixture in the top 10.

BlueTrees
Mar 5th, 2011, 05:08 AM
I remember when she reached French Open quarterfinals in 2006..she played a decent match against Henin I think it was 7-5 6-2 or something

OsloErik
Mar 5th, 2011, 06:32 AM
The utter collapse of ALG was harder to take than the fall of other youngish players I thought were going to do something big (Daniliidou, Tulyaganova, etc.) because of how strong she was. She played a big-time game, and she was getting visibly better month-to-month. The Font-de-Mora story is one of the more twisted narratives in tennis, and I can't help but wonder how many other players fall under the influence of dodgy coaches like that.

Hope she can have a late-20s redemption, maybe Capriati-lite, and return to the top 20. I thought she'd be up there with Ivanovic as a top 10 fixture for a decade.

Bronx19
Mar 5th, 2011, 06:38 AM
Yeah it's great but she wasn't happy :shrug: The only reason she was thin like that was because of how Font de Mora made her train, so I don't see it as particularly fantastic.

lmao.. Yeah, fuck hard work, be a fat and happy athlete.

So Disrespectful
Mar 5th, 2011, 07:34 AM
lmao.. Yeah, fuck hard work, be a fat and happy athlete.

:rolleyes: There's a fine line between working hard and being physically and mentally abused. Anna-Lena was always going to require some sort of adjustment period when she finally parted ways with Fonte de Mora as she was no longer being spoon fed, punished physically or having every aspect of her life controlled. She was not even permitted contact with her immediate family. It's perfectly undestandable that she took some time to enjoy her new-found freedom, but the whole fiasco has proven more damaging than anyone could have expected.

Because of all this, it's hard to pass judgement on her current state, but she's certainly not doing the right things for her tennis career. If she wants to get serious about things again, then Dier has to go, but Anna herself has said that it's very challenging to place her trust in just anybody these days. Unfortunately, this hole is an extremely deep one for her to climb out of.

volta
Mar 5th, 2011, 09:49 AM
Font-De-Mora destroyed her confidence. Seems like she'll never get back to this lvl of again :sad:

Beat
Mar 5th, 2011, 09:51 AM
ALG is totally one of the could-have-beens :sad:

The only reason she was thin like that was because of how Font de Mora made her train, so I don't see it as particularly fantastic.

the way you put it, it sounds like he was being very rude to her by making her to, like, work out (shock!), and run (horror!). she's an athlete after all.

The Witch-king
Mar 5th, 2011, 10:08 AM
We'll be saying the same about vids of your fave in a couple of years.

¤CharlDa¤
Mar 5th, 2011, 10:29 AM
The lack of sensitivity shown by some posters here in this thread is ridiculous.

What Anna-Lena had to great through is horrible, and mentally can affect anyone.

People seem to think that those players are just here for 'our' entertainment. They are people, not robots. The girl deserves to be happy first.

ALG probably still works out-trains as much as any other girl does. Some people just have different body types.

She also probably knows that her career didn't go as planned after that year. She knows she could have done better. But she probably prefers to live a healthy life, and not injure herself mentally and physically for the rest of her life. Good for her.

Davodus
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:43 PM
ALG is totally one of the could-have-beens :sad:



the way you put it, it sounds like he was being very rude to her by making her to, like, work out (shock!), and run (horror!). she's an athlete after all.

Yes because making her take diet pills and train with chains on her legs would've been so enjoyable. He totally ruined her mentally on working out and training forever.

crazillo
Mar 5th, 2011, 05:14 PM
The lack of sensitivity shown by some posters here in this thread is ridiculous.

What Anna-Lena had to great through is horrible, and mentally can affect anyone.

People seem to think that those players are just here for 'our' entertainment. They are people, not robots. The girl deserves to be happy first.

ALG probably still works out-trains as much as any other girl does. Some people just have different body types.

She also probably knows that her career didn't go as planned after that year. She knows she could have done better. But she probably prefers to live a healthy life, and not injure herself mentally and physically for the rest of her life. Good for her.

CD, I partly agree with you, however she must recognize she needs to make a change soon. Last autumn she fired Dier and then went back to him, and I think this was a bad decision. When being interviewed and asked about her fitness, she always says she's working on it. In the begininning of 2010, she was looking a lot better and played decent until she injured herself. And it has been downhill since then. :sad:

However, I never saw her as a top 10-player fixture. She has a strange FH grip and her movement was a lot better in 2005, but still not very good. But yes, German tennis fans haven't been lucky with their players as of late (ALG/Lisicki). I just hope Petkovic doesn't have a similair fate.

Halepsova
Mar 5th, 2011, 06:09 PM
Can I see the pics of current ALG?

¤CharlDa¤
Mar 5th, 2011, 07:10 PM
CD, I partly agree with you, however she must recognize she needs to make a change soon. Last autumn she fired Dier and then went back to him, and I think this was a bad decision. When being interviewed and asked about her fitness, she always says she's working on it. In the begininning of 2010, she was looking a lot better and played decent until she injured herself. And it has been downhill since then. :sad:


I don't follow her interviews and such that much, but her doubles career is doing well, she is still going around on tour. Maybe she just accepted that she is making decent money, seeing the world, and enjoying the tour and that its enough for her. Nothing wrong with that, either.

We might see her as a could-have-been, and she probably knows it, but maybe she accepted it and now just enjoys the chance she has.

$uricate
Mar 5th, 2011, 08:48 PM
She wouldn't have even been successful if it wasn't for Font de Mora though :shrug:

If it wasn't for his "regime" she would always have been fat and lazy and wouldn't even have achieved nearly what she did.

May sound harsh but Im very much about the ends justify the means.

Zébulon
Mar 5th, 2011, 09:10 PM
Her getting fat was because he messed up with her mental health, right ? With another coach she most probably would have achieved as much and would also still be competitive.

Smitten
Mar 5th, 2011, 09:26 PM
She had some game. Certainly too much to be where she is ranked now, but I never saw her doing more than top 20.

The 5 or Hawaiian grip was just too much to overcome on most days when her shotmaking was shattered into a million errors or she was simply late to the ball and got smothered by a better ballstriker.

Also, let's not forget, Anna-Lena almost never had full matches where she served over 50% first serves. Her serve was a weapon, but it missed more than it made just like her groundstrokes.

Serenita
Mar 5th, 2011, 10:00 PM
Her getting fat was because he messed up with her mental health, right ? With another coach she most probably would have achieved as much and would also still be competitive.

Her getting fat is because she doesnt have the mental strength to resist cake. And if she want's to get anywhere fast, she should let the victim trip go.
Yeah he was an awful horrible coach, but he got the job done, she was reasonably successful tennis player.

The Dawntreader
Mar 5th, 2011, 10:01 PM
Her decline from GS quarter-finalist to doubles entrant at a 25k, is a tragic tale. One thing about Groenefeld in her 'heyday' was how HEAVY a ball she hit. It was enwrapped in topspin, but it had the potency of a Vaidisova-ilk player.

Her game was embedded in glitches and inconsistencies though, so her career IMO would've always fluctuated with or wuthout the coaching/weight issues. Her service motion was one to admire on tour though. One of the more ATP-esque serves on tour no question.

Carsten
Mar 5th, 2011, 10:11 PM
If it wasn't for his "regime" she would always have been fat and lazy and wouldn't even have achieved nearly what she did.


She never was fat before Font de Mora ;)

eddyhanty
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:14 PM
ALG reminds of Groth

Herbert
Mar 6th, 2011, 01:03 AM
Font de Mora might've certainly been too strict, but regardless of body type...no person with a good diet (which any professional athlete should be on), unless there's some illness, should have the weight problems that she has right now and has had for years.

I don't buy at all that she works out just as much as any other athlete on the WTA, no way is she a work horse who makes sure she eats the right things in the right amount. Though in her defense this lack of discipline and hard work could very well be a direct result of the apparant abuse and heavy strictness of her former coach.

She's just really sick of discipline so to speak, but also likes to eat..a lot. Even without working out at all you don't have to be big.

stangtennis
Mar 6th, 2011, 01:32 AM
If she wants to get serious about things again, then Dier diet has to go
Fixed ;)

Sammo
Mar 6th, 2011, 03:13 AM
Maybe this will motivate her :D
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stangtennis
Mar 6th, 2011, 03:20 AM
Maybe this will motivate her :D
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When I click play just get this message:
This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
Sorry about that.

djb84xi
Mar 6th, 2011, 05:18 AM
Shocking is right. I do not remember her being this aggressive when I saw her play. Her groundstrokes were downright scary, and she'd blow me off the court, lol.

¤CharlDa¤
Mar 6th, 2011, 11:07 AM
Her getting fat is because she doesnt have the mental strength to resist cake. And if she want's to get anywhere fast, she should let the victim trip go.
Yeah he was an awful horrible coach, but he got the job done, she was reasonably successful tennis player.

When I mention lack of sensitivity, check above :help:

People need to understand that tennis players train every day incredibly hard, and if some of them have a little more weight on, its surely not because of lack of training but mostly because of their naturally body shapes.

Sammo
Mar 6th, 2011, 12:09 PM
When I click play just get this message:

Yeah it was blocked in a few countries because it has the song Unwritten

Zébulon
Mar 6th, 2011, 12:20 PM
Some people seem to consider putting on weight is some sort of unforgivable crime. :weirdo:

Olórin
Mar 6th, 2011, 03:08 PM
It is very sad when this is what happens to our premier athletes :shrug:
I remember at the 2006 FO, she was actually one of Justine's toughest opponents.

bjurra
Mar 6th, 2011, 06:47 PM
To blame ALG's lack of fitness on genes and body built is ridiculous. It is bloody obvious she has a problematic relationship with food.

I think ALG seems like a lovely person and I hope she will eventually recover from the horrible treatment her asshole coach exposed her to.

¤CharlDa¤
Mar 6th, 2011, 07:43 PM
To blame ALG's lack of fitness on genes and body built is ridiculous. It is bloody obvious she has a problematic relationship with food.

How is it obvious? From pictures? Have you followed her at tournaments? Have you checked her calorie count?

It's all theories, either on one side or the other. But I think the girl deserves a break.

bjurra
Mar 6th, 2011, 08:49 PM
How is it obvious? From pictures? Have you followed her at tournaments? Have you checked her calorie count?

It's all theories, either on one side or the other. But I think the girl deserves a break.

Yes, I watched her at tournaments and I even saw her ex coach harrass her during a match. You just dont gain that much weight so quickly despite playing tennis full time unless you eat to comfort yourself. And I have no doubt poor ALG was in need of comfort.

Sammo
Mar 6th, 2011, 08:50 PM
Yes, I watched her at tournaments and I even saw her ex coach harrass her during a match. You just dont gain that much weight so quickly despite playing tennis full time unless you eat to comfort yourself. And I have no doubt poor ALG was in need of comfort.

Same as Seles

fouc
Mar 6th, 2011, 09:47 PM
she has just hit 4 DF in one game :secret:

toxina90
Mar 6th, 2011, 10:07 PM
Where is she now? I've not seen/heard of her since I watched Zheng beat her at the US Open, and that was supposed to be a comeback I think.

JackFrost
Mar 6th, 2011, 10:18 PM
I like her as person, but imho she never was really a top ten candidate. Maybe it would have been a short visit there, but I´ve never seen her there for long.
She would have maybe a constant top 20 - top 25 player, if she stayed healthy and motivated.

fouc
Mar 6th, 2011, 10:22 PM
Where is she now? I've not seen/heard of her since I watched Zheng beat her at the US Open, and that was supposed to be a comeback I think.

she's playing a final of WTA tourney at this very moment.

toxina90
Mar 6th, 2011, 10:32 PM
she's playing a final of WTA tourney at this very moment.

Do you know her ranking? I hope she does well.

fouc
Mar 6th, 2011, 10:41 PM
She lost.

mk27
Mar 7th, 2011, 05:45 PM
Do you know her ranking? I hope she does well.

Her ranking is 255

Hian
Mar 7th, 2011, 05:51 PM
Well, she has a nice game but she has not stuff for Top 10.
Karin Knapp has really a sad story... howewer, good luck to Groenefeld, hope she can come back at least in Top 100 :)