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The Kaz
Mar 4th, 2011, 12:26 PM
:D

When was the last time this happened... (Sydney 2005?)

If they both reached the final itll be the first time 2 Aussie in a WTA final since Sydney 2005!

Hian
Mar 4th, 2011, 12:27 PM
Australia is so bad? :(

Dani12
Mar 4th, 2011, 12:40 PM
Yeah Sydney. Stosur got about three walkovers :lol:

goldenlox
Mar 4th, 2011, 01:02 PM
Groth should have a good career ahead of her.
She has a lot of game. Still learning how to use it.

TS
Mar 4th, 2011, 01:11 PM
Australian born players are so bad? :(

Fixed.

Young 8
Mar 4th, 2011, 01:30 PM
Australian players ?

Territory
Mar 4th, 2011, 02:11 PM
Okay, here's a tougher question - when was the last time 2 Aussies were in the SF of a WTA tournament and neither of them was the Aussie No.1?

OZTENNIS
Mar 4th, 2011, 02:22 PM
Yeah Sydney. Stosur got about three walkovers :lol:

2 - Dementieva and Davenport (I think :p)

ElusiveChanteuse
Mar 4th, 2011, 02:40 PM
Probably because of geoographical reasons that they are doing well (experience less jet lag compared to others)..:lol:

Juju Nostalgique
Mar 4th, 2011, 02:46 PM
Now: Go Canada, Go Canada!!! :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2:

jrm
Mar 4th, 2011, 04:23 PM
was this suppose to be sort of a joke :p

Australians ...

Ferg
Mar 4th, 2011, 06:40 PM
If only they were actually Australian.

Direwolf
Mar 4th, 2011, 06:57 PM
:D

When was the last time this happened... (Sydney 2005?)

If they both reached the final itll be the first time 2 Aussie in a WTA final since Sydney 2005!

Who did she play in the finals?

Okay, here's a tougher question - when was the last time 2 Aussies were in the SF of a WTA tournament and neither of them was the Aussie No.1?

Sydney 2005?
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

silverwhite
Mar 4th, 2011, 08:42 PM
Who did she play in the finals?


Molik

fightserena!!!
Mar 4th, 2011, 10:03 PM
If only they were actually Australian.

As an Australian I find this offensive. This is a wonderful country whose diversity and embracing of other cultures makes us unique in the world. We are a nation founded and built upon immigration. Even today almost 30% of our population are people born overseas. Anyone who has the privilege to become a citizen of this country deserves the recognition, respect and dignity offered to every Australian. Being Australian is about embracing a set of values that transcend geography. These players are as 'actually Australian' as any other citizen of this country.

danieln1
Mar 4th, 2011, 10:06 PM
Jarmila Gajdosova and Jelena Dokic...

No one in the world would guess they´re Australians with those names! :haha: :haha: Australia is great in attracting talented players to their country, but I miss Australian born Molik having success...

maya-serbia
Mar 4th, 2011, 10:18 PM
Australians?? :lol::lol:

Territory
Mar 4th, 2011, 10:26 PM
AUS stands for Australia doesn't it? :shrug:

brodle1
Mar 4th, 2011, 10:36 PM
I find it entertaining when people make comments about nationality - especially from countries like the US or those in Eurpoe, who routinely have immigrants playing for them. Does immigrating make one less American, or English, or French or whatever because they immigrated for the chance to play a sport? Why does immigrating for that purpose seem more or less "phony" than immigrating for better job opportuinities? Isn't playing tennis, after all, these player's jobs?!?

Dani12
Mar 4th, 2011, 11:50 PM
You know what, the first thing I thought when this thread was posted is that...yep, all this is going to attract is ignorant and offensive people thinking they are making an some sort of intellegent joke or smart ass comment that has been made a thousand times. Way to prove me right guys :)

Mateo Mathieu
Mar 5th, 2011, 12:49 AM
Jarmila Gajdosova and Jelena Dokic...

No one in the world would guess they´re Australians with those names! :haha: :haha: Australia is great in attracting talented players to their country, but I miss Australian born Molik having success...
Give me an example of Australian names :shrug: We don't have Australian names except for Aboriginal people.

By the way, Molik is a Polish name not Australian, you idiot :rolleyes:

njnetswill
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:05 AM
I find it entertaining when people make comments about nationality - especially from countries like the US or those in Eurpoe, who routinely have immigrants playing for them. Does immigrating make one less American, or English, or French or whatever because they immigrated for the chance to play a sport? Why does immigrating for that purpose seem more or less "phony" than immigrating for better job opportuinities? Isn't playing tennis, after all, these player's jobs?!?

I don't think Americans are likely to make those comments. Well, not the ones that come to TF anyway. ;)

In my experience, those comments about nationality tend to come from residents of homogenous European countries, especially the ones that obsess over names (Boserup is a Dane! Wozniacki is Polish! Tomic is a Croatian!).

Props to all the Aussies here defending the values of their country :yeah: So many people in the world could learn so much from you.

Lucas_Arg
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:23 AM
As an Australian I find this offensive. This is a wonderful country whose diversity and embracing of other cultures makes us unique in the world. We are a nation founded and built upon immigration. Even today almost 30% of our population are people born overseas. Anyone who has the privilege to become a citizen of this country deserves the recognition, respect and dignity offered to every Australian. Being Australian is about embracing a set of values that transcend geography. These players are as 'actually Australian' as any other citizen of this country.

No one is saying they are not australian, it just shows how terrible the australian tennis is nowadays.

goat
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:28 AM
As an Australian I find this offensive. This is a wonderful country whose diversity and embracing of other cultures makes us unique in the world. We are a nation founded and built upon immigration. Even today almost 30% of our population are people born overseas. Anyone who has the privilege to become a citizen of this country deserves the recognition, respect and dignity offered to every Australian. Being Australian is about embracing a set of values that transcend geography. These players are as 'actually Australian' as any other citizen of this country.

:worship: I agree and eventually even think I will become an Australian citizen. I am proud of Hungary but I feel at home in Australia! I live with an American, a Chinese, an English and a Norge and one Australian born girl. However its their respective backgrounds that make our small group great! likewise with the Australian population. Multiculturalism is fantastic.

fouc
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:29 AM
No one is saying they are not australian, it just shows how terrible the australian tennis is nowadays.

wut? everyone is saying they r not aussies in this thread.

goat
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:30 AM
No one is saying they are not australian, it just shows how terrible the australian tennis is nowadays.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol:

no.

Alizé Molik
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:37 AM
No one is saying they are not australian, it just shows how terrible the australian tennis is nowadays.

No well it's not; say, the powerhouse that Argentina is... but I think they're doing ok. :rolleyes:

égalité
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:45 AM
No one is saying they are not australian, it just shows how terrible the australian tennis is nowadays.

:unsure: Here are four people:

Australian players ?

was this suppose to be sort of a joke :p

Australians ...

If only they were actually Australian.

Australians?? :lol::lol:

:weirdo:

The Kaz
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:50 AM
:unsure:









:weirdo:

I just ignore those people... they're just jealous that Australia is such a wonderful, caring and accepting country compared to their plain, boring, ignorant, homogenous country.

égalité
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:55 AM
I just ignore those people... they're just jealous that Australia is such a wonderful, caring and accepting country compared to their plain, boring, ignorant, homogenous country.

Actually the :weirdo: was directed at the person who posted, "No one's saying they're not Australian." :lol:

But yeah, it can certainly be extended to the other posters, too. Try telling Jarka and Jelena that they're not Australian and see how that goes. :weirdo:

The Kaz
Mar 5th, 2011, 02:07 AM
Actually the :weirdo: was directed at the person who posted, "No one's saying they're not Australian." :lol:

But yeah, it can certainly be extended to the other posters, too. Try telling Jarka and Jelena that they're not Australian and see how that goes. :weirdo:

Exactly! It makes me mad... I started this thread indicating to the posters here that Australia is finally getting back on track in the tennis scene and look at the carnage I get :eek: :o

Territory
Mar 5th, 2011, 02:30 AM
@The Kaz

lol, I think thick skins are required for GM threads. Just wait til Jarka and Jelly both make it to the final! :lol:

Now's where's that OzDog idiot, trying to tell us what a waste of space Dokic is ("Queen of the free-ride" is think was his catch-cry).

austennis
Mar 5th, 2011, 02:47 AM
As an Australian I find this offensive. This is a wonderful country whose diversity and embracing of other cultures makes us unique in the world. We are a nation founded and built upon immigration. Even today almost 30% of our population are people born overseas. Anyone who has the privilege to become a citizen of this country deserves the recognition, respect and dignity offered to every Australian. Being Australian is about embracing a set of values that transcend geography. These players are as 'actually Australian' as any other citizen of this country.

I couldn't agree more!!

Lets hope we can continue this good form and goodluck to all the Aussie girls no matter where they were born

thegreendestiny
Mar 5th, 2011, 04:22 AM
Yeah, Australians...

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jezebel/2010/10/elationrodeo.gif

goat
Mar 5th, 2011, 04:48 AM
If Serena is black why doesn't she play for afrika? :confused:

PhilePhile
Mar 5th, 2011, 05:13 AM
Now: Go Canada, Go Canada!!! :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2: :rocker2:

:scratch:

PhilePhile
Mar 5th, 2011, 05:30 AM
Yeah, Australians...

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jezebel/2010/10/elationrodeo.gif

http://image08.webshots.com/8/2/75/97/141827597CTTEXI_fs.jpg

rada
Mar 5th, 2011, 06:59 AM
Well they Play for Australia so they are Australian :)I'm sure both girls love there backgrounds but they want to play for Australia and I don't blame them it's an awesome country ;)

BlueTrees
Mar 5th, 2011, 07:17 AM
Yeah, Australians...

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jezebel/2010/10/elationrodeo.gif

How stupid are you? :weirdo: Go learn some history, Australia is a new country, so technically the only "real Australians" are Aboriginals.

KBlade
Mar 5th, 2011, 08:02 AM
Some idiotic comments on this thread. These players have full Australian citizenship, and have full right to represent Australia in tennis as Australians. I'm pretty sure this is not the only case where players born in different countries represent others, but I have no idea why these particular examples attract so much attention.

And if you looked into it, you'd probably find that although these players may have been born in a different country, they've probably lived in Australia for longer than they have lived in their birth country. They are Australians as far as I'm concerned, and they represent our country well in the sport of tennis. Even Anastasia Ridionova, everybody's least favourite player is incredibly patriotic and wears a cap embedded with the Australian flag.

They're proud of their adoptive country and that to me is Australian.

Boreas
Mar 5th, 2011, 08:21 AM
Jarmila Groth is a Slovakian girl playing for Australia. For gods sake, your passport doesn't define you. It's like saying a random table tennis player Zhao Chi is Turkish just because he plays for that country. There's one quote "standing in a garage does not make you a car".

thegreendestiny
Mar 5th, 2011, 08:27 AM
Jarmila Groth is a Slovakian girl playing for Australia. For gods sake, your passport doesn't define you. It's like saying a random table tennis player Zhao Chi is Turkish just because he plays for that country. There's one quote "standing in a garage does not make you a car".

So, should the title be "2 Australian representatives..." instead?

égalité
Mar 5th, 2011, 08:30 AM
Jarmila Groth is a Slovakian girl playing for Australia. For gods sake, your passport doesn't define you. It's like saying a random table tennis player Zhao Chi is Turkish just because he plays for that country. There's one quote "standing in a garage does not make you a car".

Yeah but being an Australian citizen makes you an Australian so shut the fuck up. :weirdo:

The 2nd Law
Mar 5th, 2011, 08:31 AM
Who do they play fed cup for .... ?


It seems our foreign friends don't understand our multiculturalism until they come and live here themselves, at which point they will of course be welcomed into the community as, Australians. :p

WhatTheDeuce
Mar 5th, 2011, 09:00 AM
As an Australian I find this offensive. This is a wonderful country whose diversity and embracing of other cultures makes us unique in the world. We are a nation founded and built upon immigration. Even today almost 30% of our population are people born overseas. Anyone who has the privilege to become a citizen of this country deserves the recognition, respect and dignity offered to every Australian. Being Australian is about embracing a set of values that transcend geography. These players are as 'actually Australian' as any other citizen of this country.
All that needs to be said. :yeah:

wally1
Mar 5th, 2011, 10:07 AM
Some idiotic comments on this thread. These players have full Australian citizenship, and have full right to represent Australia in tennis as Australians. I'm pretty sure this is not the only case where players born in different countries represent others, but I have no idea why these particular examples attract so much attention.This is quite correct, but it's not only in tennis this criticism happens. The amount of carping about the "South Africans" in the England cricket team is huge (often coming from Australians it has to be said :lol: )

BlueTrees
Mar 5th, 2011, 10:49 AM
For those morons who are simply being trolls.

Why does...

Wozniacki represent Denmark and not Poland?
Pierce represent France and not Canada/USA?
Sharapova represent Russia and not USA/Belarus?
Golovin represent France and not Russia?
Petkovic represent Germany and not Serbia/Bosnia?
Johansson represent France and not Sweden?
Rezai represent France and not Iran?
Seles represent USA and not Yugoslavia/Hungary?
Navratilova represent USA and not Czech Republic?
Hingis represent Switzerland and not Czechoslovakia/Slovakia/Hungary?
Huber represent USA and not South Africa?
Lepchenko represent USA and not Uzbekistan/Russia/Ukraine?
Karatantcheva represent Kazakhstan and not Bulgaria?
Shvedova represent Kazakhstan and not Russia?
Voskoboeva represent Kazakhstan and not Russia?
Mladenovic represent France and not Serbia?

Also...

Serena, Venus and King represent USA but ethnically they're African/Asian so are they not "American" in your eyes? :confused:

Trolling at its best. :zzz:

Gregorio87
Mar 5th, 2011, 10:50 AM
If Shvedova and Voskoboeva will reach the SF in a WTA tournament, we should celebrate that 2 Kazakh made it, it's ridiculous :tape:

Dani12
Mar 5th, 2011, 10:53 AM
If Shvedova and Voskoboeva will reach the SF in a WTA tournament, we should celebrate that 2 Kazakh made it, it's ridiculous :tape:

IF you can't see the difference between the two situations, then I feel really REALLY sorry for you bud.

BlueTrees
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:00 AM
If Shvedova and Voskoboeva will reach the SF in a WTA tournament, we should celebrate that 2 Kazakh made it, it's ridiculous :tape:

So I guess nobody in Hungary celebrated when Arn won Auckland and beat Sharapova, because she used to represent Germany? :wavey:

Too bad Hungary can't get a few decent players imported. I'm sure if they did you would feel a bit different. :kiss:

GeeTee
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:01 AM
boy - this thread really proves how ignorant (in some cases, deliberately...) some of the forum members are

Gregorio87
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:04 AM
We can't even buy ethnic Hungarian players :o So yes I share the opinion of the other Eastern European posters. If I would be an Aussie or American then I would be on your side :bigwave:

And please enlighten me, what is the difference between the two situations! Ok Except Groth has an Australian husband, so she had a good reason to change her nationality.

BlueTrees
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:08 AM
We can't even buy ethnic Hungarian players :o So yes I share the opinion of the other Eastern European posters. If I would be an Aussie or American then I would be on your side :bigwave:

Jealousy gets you nowhere. :wavey:

I'm sure you weren't complaining when Arn won Auckland and saying "SHE IS NOT HUNGARIAN!".

Gregorio87
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:08 AM
So I guess nobody in Hungary celebrated when Arn won Auckland and beat Sharapova, because she used to represent Germany? :wavey:

FAIL! Greta was born in Hungary I think they moved later to Germany she studied even in Hungarian schools!

Edit: Are you really Russian, or just fake? Are you happy that Kazakhstan buys your players?
It's not jealousy, I'm saying just, that we shouldn't forget that these players lived most of their life as Slovak and Serb. And I accept the Aussies opinion but I'm on the other side of this story.

Alizé Molik
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:15 AM
If Shvedova and Voskoboeva will reach the SF in a WTA tournament, we should celebrate that 2 Kazakh made it, it's ridiculous :tape:

The difference being that the former were PAID to change nationalities (i.e. their decision was purely motivated by financial support and they have little or no ties to Kazakhstan) and the latter have been living in Australia for a long time and have changed their nationalities for reasons other than tennis (Dokic and her family came as refugees, Jarka has an australian husband and likewise Rodionova)

I certainly do feel bad for people such as yourself who see immigration as some indication of their country's inferior quality in comparison to countries like Australia.

BlueTrees
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:18 AM
FAIL! Greta was born in Hungary I think they moved later to Germany she studied even in Hungarian schools!

Right...so you're saying to represent a country you have to be born there? Pierce wasn't born in France. Johansson wasn't born in France. Seles wasn't born in USA. Hingis wasn't born in Switzerland. Petkovic wasn't born in Germany. Golovin wasn't born in France. Baltacha wasn't born in Great Britain. Huber wasn't born in USA. Lepchenko wasn't born in USA. Navratilova wasn't born in USA. Are you arguing people from these nations cannot celebrate when the player has success? :weirdo:

And for the record Dokic studied in Australian schools too. :wavey:

fouc
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:19 AM
yeah, Ula Radwańska was born in Germany :)

Meelis
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:22 AM
If Shvedova and Voskoboeva will reach the SF in a WTA tournament, we should celebrate that 2 Kazakh made it, it's ridiculous :tape:

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=402180&highlight=kazakh

Gregorio87
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:24 AM
No you shouldn't be born there, I just said that in Greta's case it's useless to speak about this, she isn't a good example.
I thnik I will stop this stupid debate. Some people take this too personal :weirdo:

Alizé Molik
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:26 AM
No you shouldn't be born there, I just said that in Greta's case it's useless to speak about this, she isn't a good example.
I thnik I will stop this stupid debate. Some people take this too personal :weirdo:

no, your point is just idiotic and offensive. :weirdo:

BlueTrees
Mar 5th, 2011, 11:26 AM
Edit: Are you really Russian, or just fake? Are you happy that Kazakhstan buys your players?
It's not jealousy, I'm saying just, that we shouldn't forget that these players lived most of their life as Slovak and Serb. And I accept the Aussies opinion but I'm on the other side of this story.

No, I'm an Aussie. I have the flag cause my fave is Safina. ;)

Who said we're forgetting that these players lived most of their life as a Slovak and Serb? :confused:

As I said, I'm sure you wouldn't be complaining if you had two players in a WTA semifinal who represent Hungary, so I can understand you would feel a bit jealous. :wavey:

Acanthus
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:30 PM
Jelena and Jarka are both Australian now and nobody can deny that, but its still not quite the same acheivement just from the perspective of tennis development in the country as a home grown player who came through Australian grassroots development since they were little.

And this is super exciting for me, cause I'm Australian and I always support the Aussies, and now Dokic is through to the final, and the other match is between Jarka, who I really like anyway, plus Lucie, who is my favourite player. So either two Aussies in the final!!! Or Lucie in the final!!!

Mastodon
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:39 PM
Jelena and Jarka are both Australian now and nobody can deny that, but its still not quite the same acheivement just from the perspective of tennis development in the country as a home grown player who came through Australian grassroots development since they were little.

And this is super exciting for me, cause I'm Australian and I always support the Aussies, and now Dokic is through to the final, and the other match is between Jarka, who I really like anyway, plus Lucie, who is my favourite player. So either two Aussies in the final!!! Or Lucie in the final!!!

Not stricty true in Dokic's case. Much of Jelena's tennis development was as a result of Australian coaches.

Boreas
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:47 PM
No, I'm an Aussie. I have the flag cause my fave is Safina. ;)

Who said we're forgetting that these players lived most of their life as a Slovak and Serb? :confused:

As I said, I'm sure you wouldn't be complaining if you had two players in a WTA semifinal who represent Hungary, so I can understand you would feel a bit jealous. :wavey:

Does Groth consider herself an Aussie? Do her parents think she's Aussie?

She represents Australia but she was born to Slovak parents in Slovakia and is therefore a Slovak. A Slovak representing Australia. A citizenship is a formality she needs in order to live in Australia.

Mateo Mathieu
Mar 5th, 2011, 01:59 PM
Nobody forced Groth to representing Australia. It's her choice. If she's Australian then she's Australian. Full stop.

Territory
Mar 5th, 2011, 02:03 PM
Does Groth consider herself an Aussie?

A citizenship is a formality she needs in order to live in Australia.

No, she doesn't need citizenship to live in Australia. She needs a permanent resident visa to live in Australia, which she got in 2007. She then chose to become an Australian citizen in 2009.

Yes, she considers herself an Aussie.

tennisforadults
Mar 6th, 2011, 02:05 AM
Does Groth consider herself an Aussie? Do her parents think she's Aussie?

She represents Australia but she was born to Slovak parents in Slovakia and is therefore a Slovak. A Slovak representing Australia. A citizenship is a formality she needs in order to live in Australia.

As Territory has pointed out, to live in Australia you need a permanent residency visa, which Jarmila has had for many years before becoming citizen. A permanent resident can live in Australia happily with full access to healthcare even if they never become a citizen. To become a citizen is an additional step in pledging your allegiance.

Does Groth consider herself an Aussie? Yes, absolutely. Whether her parents think she's an Aussie has no relevance.

You need to get informed better before spreading such ignorance. :o

shoparound
Mar 6th, 2011, 02:19 AM
Yikes don't mess with the aussies nowadays!

tennisforadults
Mar 6th, 2011, 02:20 AM
Not stricty true in Dokic's case. Much of Jelena's tennis development was as a result of Australian coaches.

Exactly. Jelena migrated to Australia in 1994, and lived in a suburb of Sydney, attending a local high school. Australia coaches and facilities were instrumental in developing her tennis during her teens, which was why she was seen as having "betrayed" the country when Damir made her switch back to Yugoslavia.

Jelena and Jarka are Australians because they chose to represent Australia...
NOT because they are forced to
NOT because Australia gives them lots of cash
NOT because they have to become citizens in order to live in Australia.

BlueTrees
Mar 6th, 2011, 05:06 AM
Jelena and Jarka are both Australian now and nobody can deny that, but its still not quite the same acheivement just from the perspective of tennis development in the country as a home grown player who came through Australian grassroots development since they were little.

Jelena lived in Australia since she was 11 until she was almost 18. Most of her tennis development was done in Australia.

Does Groth consider herself an Aussie?

Proud to represent Australia

Czechoslovakian-born tennis professional, Jarmila Groth, became an Australian citizen at the National Museum of Australia in Canberra.

'It’s a dream come true,' said Jarmila who is married to fellow Aussie tennis professional Sam Groth.

'I am incredibly excited and proud to become a citizen of this great nation, whose people have welcomed me so warmly and have made me feel at home since the very first time I came here.'

Jarmila fell in love with Australia during her first trip to the Australian Open as a 14 year-old junior player.

She now looks forward to representing Australia in future tournaments.

Watch and listen as Jarmila discusses what it means to her to be an Australian at her Australian citizenship ceremony at the National Museum of Australia

Do her parents think she's Aussie?

I don't know. I'll just call them up and ask. :rolleyes:

She represents Australia but she was born to Slovak parents in Slovakia and is therefore a Slovak.

So Pierce, Golovin and Johansson aren't French? Hingis isn't Swiss? Navratilova, Seles, Huber and Lepchenko aren't American? Petkovic isn't German? Baltacha isn't British?

A Slovak representing Australia. A citizenship is a formality she needs in order to live in Australia.

1. She is an Australian citizen. :confused:
2. She already lives in Australia and has done for years, even before she had citizenship. :confused:

Get your facts right. :o I'm pretty sure you can't represent a country if you don't have citizenship. :weirdo:

égalité
Mar 6th, 2011, 06:02 AM
Does Groth consider herself an Aussie? Do her parents think she's Aussie?

She represents Australia but she was born to Slovak parents in Slovakia and is therefore a Slovak. A Slovak representing Australia. A citizenship is a formality she needs in order to live in Australia.

Wow, I guess you have authority over what nationality Jarmila Groth identifies as. Well done. :worship:

The 2nd Law
Mar 6th, 2011, 02:36 PM
We're taking it personally because what you guys don't understand is that your claims are actually insulting to us and to the players in question. Stories such as Jelena's and Jarmilla's are celebrated here, we are proud of the fact that people like these girls love this country like we do, and so we accept them as our own, because they are. This doesn't just apply to athletes either, we aren't glory hunting.