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Beat
Mar 2nd, 2011, 08:17 AM
too much coke has eaten this man's brains, methinks ... :help:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/feb/28/galliano-future-dior-doubtful-hitler

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/executive-lifestyle/dior-sacks-john-galliano-after-natalie-portman-refuses-to-work-with-designer/story-e6frg8k6-1226014561366

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/news/dior-sacks-john-galliano-2229249.html

Kylger
Mar 2nd, 2011, 09:41 AM
Read about it the other day. Can't believe he's that stupid.

He has banned himself by this now from the rest of the world. Saying you love Hitler and attack jewish people then. Good luck to you, that reputation is obviously gone now, that he had.

young_gunner913
Mar 2nd, 2011, 09:56 AM
He's such a damn fool. It's sad because he is a good designer but my whole view of him as a person has been tarnished permanently. I'm proud for Natalie to stand up and speak out against him.

Sam L
Mar 2nd, 2011, 11:24 AM
too much coke has eaten this man's brains, methinks ... :help:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/feb/28/galliano-future-dior-doubtful-hitler

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/executive-lifestyle/dior-sacks-john-galliano-after-natalie-portman-refuses-to-work-with-designer/story-e6frg8k6-1226014561366

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/news/dior-sacks-john-galliano-2229249.html

Natalie slammed him. Good riddance. :rolleyes:

Kylger
Mar 2nd, 2011, 12:03 PM
He's such a damn fool. It's sad because he is a good designer but my whole view of him as a person has been tarnished permanently. I'm proud for Natalie to stand up and speak out against him.
agree with everything you said.

Brilliant in fashion, but such an idiot in real life.

He really should have known better.

Svetlana)))
Mar 2nd, 2011, 01:10 PM
Fucking dumbnut. Glad that Portman put him in his rightful place

Scotso
Mar 2nd, 2011, 04:19 PM
"No, but I love Hitler and people like you would be dead. Your mothers, your forefathers would all be fucking gassed."

The guy is gay. Is he a fucking idiot? Hitler would have gassed him, too. And of course Natalie Portman had a problem with this, she's Jewish.

WhatTheDeuce
Mar 2nd, 2011, 05:46 PM
Ewwwwww.

Mistress of Evil
Mar 2nd, 2011, 05:52 PM
:o

pov
Mar 2nd, 2011, 06:04 PM
"No, but I love Hitler and people like you would be dead. Your mothers, your forefathers would all be fucking gassed."

The guy is gay. Is he a fucking idiot? Hitler would have gassed him, too. And of course Natalie Portman had a problem with this, she's Jewish.
Which is another clear indication that he didn't say those things because he believed them. Most people use insults because - in a fit of anger - they want to say something hurtful. IMO clearly the case here.

Yeah Natalie Hershlag.

Infiniti2001
Mar 2nd, 2011, 06:25 PM
Which is another clear indication that he didn't say those things because he believed them. Most people use insults because - in a fit of anger - they want to say something hurtful. IMO clearly the case here.

Yeah Natalie Hershlag.

I really don't buy this. I truly believe that people say mean and hurtful things when on drugs or drunk , because deep down this is what they really feel/mean deep inside, but don't have to the guts to say it in a sober state.

Beat
Mar 2nd, 2011, 07:41 PM
I really don't buy this. I truly believe that people say mean and hurtful things when on drugs or drunk , because deep down this is what they really feel/mean deep inside, but don't have to the guts to say it in a sober state.

this.
if you don't have such thoughts on your mind, you don't say them, drunk/drugged up or not.

Crazy Canuck
Mar 2nd, 2011, 08:07 PM
I really don't buy this. I truly believe that people say mean and hurtful things when on drugs or drunk , because deep down this is what they really feel/mean deep inside, but don't have to the guts to say it in a sober state.
I don't really agree with this, but the end result is the same. If somebody says something this inappropriate, they ought to be held accountable for it, whether they believed what they said or not. As for Portmans disapproval, well, duh. It's nice to know she's not as supporting of this as she is statutory rape: http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/2011/03/natalie-portman-is-a-hypocrite.html :D

Apoleb
Mar 2nd, 2011, 08:37 PM
I kinda knew what pov was going to post when I saw his username in the "last post" section. :o He may not believe what he said to a 100% (and believe it or not, a lot of people hold conflicting beliefs so it's always good to keep some benefit of the doubt), but how the hell is it "clear" that he didn't mean those words? :unsure:

As for Portmans disapproval, well, duh. It's nice to know she's not as supporting of this as she is statutory rape

A lot of those film stars (especially the ones that look at themselves as "artsy") have gone way beyond the mainstream with their ethical codes. It still astounds me how they think fucking a 13 year old girl can be morally justifiable and I don't want any of them next to children. :help:

WhatTheDeuce
Mar 2nd, 2011, 08:45 PM
(and believe it or not, a lot of people hold conflicting beliefs so it's always good to keep some benefit of the doubt)
This. Even if Infiniti's claim that people say what they mean/feel when they're intoxicated were true (which I do believe it is to a certain extent), doesn't leave out the possibility of contradicting or different beliefs being somewhere 'deep down' also.

Payam
Mar 2nd, 2011, 08:57 PM
That fool deserved it. I hope he can't find a job anywhere else and dies in poverty on the street.

ivanban
Mar 2nd, 2011, 11:12 PM
"No, but I love Hitler and people like you would be dead. Your mothers, your forefathers would all be fucking gassed."

The guy is gay. Is he a fucking idiot? Hitler would have gassed him, too. And of course Natalie Portman had a problem with this, she's Jewish.

This.

Which means he was so drunk and on drugs that he didn't have one bit of common sense at that moment :weirdo:

young_gunner913
Mar 3rd, 2011, 12:36 AM
This. Even if Infiniti's claim that people say what they mean/feel when they're intoxicated were true (which I do believe it is to a certain extent), doesn't leave out the possibility of contradicting or different beliefs being somewhere 'deep down' also.

That's bullshit. If it were a slip of the tounge when he was intoxicated, okay fine. That's believable. But when you continue to harass someone with anti-semetic remarks, chances are, you don't hold conflicting beliefs, you've just been stiffling them.

Stamp Paid
Mar 3rd, 2011, 12:45 AM
He's an idiot, and he had become stale at Dior anyway. Time for new blood.

WhatTheDeuce
Mar 3rd, 2011, 12:56 AM
That's bullshit. If it were a slip of the tounge when he was intoxicated, okay fine. That's believable. But when you continue to harass someone with anti-semetic remarks, chances are, you don't hold conflicting beliefs, you've just been stiffling them.
That post was a general statement, not one pertaining to this particular situation or in defense of this guy.

pov
Mar 3rd, 2011, 01:08 AM
I really don't buy this. I truly believe that people say mean and hurtful things when on drugs or drunk , because deep down this is what they really feel/mean deep inside, but don't have to the guts to say it in a sober state.
I didn't say on drugs or drunk. I said "in a fit of anger and wanting to be hurtful" Do you really think that every time someone pissed off screams "I'm gonna kill him" that they really mean it? Or when an upset teen shouts "I hate you" at his parents that he usually means it?

The idea that people won't dredge up something hurtful to say when angry is ridiculous.

As far as being drunk/lit meaning they really believe something deep down . . I don't think that's always true either.

pov
Mar 3rd, 2011, 01:11 AM
That fool deserved it. I hope he can't find a job anywhere else and dies in poverty on the street.
Here you're doing the same thing (or "worse" than) he did. Being angry at/disliking a stranger and wishing them "bad" things.

Beat
Mar 3rd, 2011, 08:40 AM
It's nice to know she's not as supporting of this as she is statutory rape: http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/2011/03/natalie-portman-is-a-hypocrite.html :D

that's a silly article. even if portman's wrong on the polanski thing, how does that make her a hypocrite? is she not allowed to speak her mind on other issues anymore? i don't think that "drugging and forcibly butt fucking a 13-year old girl" is no big deal to portman, as the article claims. things are much more complex in the case of polanski, and the writer knows that just as well.

and next to the article, there's a picture and text about lindsay's lohan's sextape. did someone say "hypocrite"?

Beat
Mar 3rd, 2011, 08:42 AM
Here you're doing the same thing (or "worse" than) he did. Being angry at/disliking a stranger and wishing them "bad" things.

so you're suggesting we should wish him well?

galadriel
Mar 3rd, 2011, 11:09 AM
What a fool :fiery:

jrm
Mar 3rd, 2011, 12:20 PM
He probably got sacked because this made it to the public ... if this was internal, they would still keep him!

What a poor man!

Apoleb
Mar 3rd, 2011, 12:29 PM
This.

Which means he was so drunk and on drugs that he didn't have one bit of common sense at that moment :weirdo:

Really? I'm pretty sure gay sympathizers for Hitler exist, even though they may not agree with his views on gays.

that's a silly article. even if portman's wrong on the polanski thing, how does that make her a hypocrite? is she not allowed to speak her mind on other issues anymore? i don't think that "drugging and forcibly butt fucking a 13-year old girl" is no big deal to portman, as the article claims. things are much more complex in the case of polanski, and the writer knows that just as well.

It doesn't make her a "hypocrite", but it's perfectly fair for people to bring it up to know where she stands on ethical issues. Yes, I'm afraid it's valid to bring her position on statuary rape and Polanski every time she opens her mouth to condemn certain actions.

Crazy Canuck
Mar 3rd, 2011, 04:43 PM
that's a silly article. even if portman's wrong on the polanski thing, how does that make her a hypocrite? is she not allowed to speak her mind on other issues anymore? i don't think that "drugging and forcibly butt fucking a 13-year old girl" is no big deal to portman, as the article claims. things are much more complex in the case of polanski, and the writer knows that just as well.

and next to the article, there's a picture and text about lindsay's lohan's sextape. did someone say "hypocrite"?
I... can't believe that you actually just took the time to analyze something from The Superficial. That guy spends half of his day posting pictures of boobs. To be fair, that's probably the first time you saw the site. So, because apparently this needs to be explained, I didn't post the link because I think The Superficial is a great news source, or because I think that the writer is a flawless human being. The writer here is completely irrelevant, as the point was this:


It doesn't make her a "hypocrite", but it's perfectly fair for people to bring it up to know where she stands on ethical issues. Yes, I'm afraid it's valid to bring her position on statuary rape and Polanski every time she opens her mouth to condemn certain actions.

I generally like Portman, but really, it's hard to take a serious Polanski defender seriously, no matter how educated or intelligent they are.

Attack the message, not the writer. Otherwise the message holds up.

Kart
Mar 3rd, 2011, 05:13 PM
I don't really see that Portman had any real choice - she is a face of Dior and was bound to be asked about it, so this is a pre-emptive strike. Signing a Roman Polanski petition was something she had a choice over.

At any rate, the issue here is Galliano. I expect that the fame and fortune must have gone to his head - honestly why would anyone say such things to anyone else when there are plenty of other things you could say to get the same point across ?

His career must surely be over but I expect he's got enough money to not care that much.

Wigglytuff
Mar 3rd, 2011, 05:16 PM
Whether he meant it or not is a moot point (or mute, I never know which one). He is an idiot for saying it and an even bigger idiot for saying it and getting taped doing so. I hope he has a lot of savings because I don't thing many big houses would be open to having him come on board.

Bayo
Mar 3rd, 2011, 05:17 PM
I saw DVF on the morning news earlier. She said that, while what he said was deplorable, in reality he's a sweet, fragile soul who most likely was provoked. :rolleyes:

Bring on the rehab.

Princeza
Mar 3rd, 2011, 07:56 PM
What a moron. But Dior are such hypocrites. Of course they knew it but only decided to sack him when it was made public. They probably just took their chance and occasion to dump him because they didn't want him anymore, regardless of what happened.

Beat
Mar 3rd, 2011, 10:01 PM
I... can't believe that you actually just took the time to analyze something from The Superficial. That guy spends half of his day posting pictures of boobs. To be fair, that's probably the first time you saw the site.

it was indeed. and will have been the last time, too. ;)

Ferg
Mar 3rd, 2011, 10:10 PM
Well, apparently hes done it twice so... I think we can rule out him saying it for shock value. Hes filth.