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CoryAnnAvants#1
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:32 AM
They just did a wide shot of CC for the Jovanovski match and there literally isn't a single person in the stands. Even for the first match of the day, this is completely unacceptable for a WTA event. You even get 5 or 10 people floating around for a 10K...

Bronx19
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:37 AM
Its a washed up old lady early in the day.

djb84xi
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:39 AM
Well, it comes as no surprise to me. The ATP 250 events get more fans than this. The WTA has to get these tournaments in a location where there's a stronger and larger fan base for tennis. Kuala Lumpur doesn't strike me as the kind of place that has a big tennis fan base anyway. It makes the WTA look bad when they can't attract the fans they need, especially at their big events. Part of the reason why the WTA can't pull in fans, is because of the state Women's tennis is in right now, in terms of talent. There's a lot of talent in the WTA, but a lot of the players with the talent aren't making the best use of it consistently.

CoryAnnAvants#1
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:42 AM
Its a washed up old lady early in the day.

Firstly, it's almost 2:00 in the afternoon there. And even for a morning match, you should still be able to at least get some fans in the seats, even if they're not big name players.

Like it was said in the previous post, It's just a bad idea to hold women's tennis tournaments in conservative muslim countries. There isn't the interest needed.

goldenlox
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:43 AM
Dementieva was in the final last year.
They restrict the top players from playing a lot of mickey mouses.
Caro isnt playing this week, because she's not allowed to play all the MM's she wants to.

Hayato
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:45 AM
I was in KL last year and they had lots of advertising for it around the city, even about 2 or 3 weeks before it started.

ElusiveChanteuse
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:56 AM
Where's Krookodile?:p

Well, not surprising. Tennis isn't that popular yet in Malaysia, the government seems to be trying to make it popular, but I guess to no avail.:p

PhilePhile
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:58 AM
Not even the jungle birds show up today.

Loungy
Mar 1st, 2011, 05:01 AM
It was a massacre anyway.

Sp!ffy
Mar 1st, 2011, 05:11 AM
Tennis is so...weird.

It's strange how Agassi-Sampras can get 17,000 + to watch them in NY while Jovanovski can only yield about a handful of viewers.

I know there's a huge difference between Sampras/Agassi and Jovanovski/Tanasugarn but it's still the same sport, isn't it? :lol:

The WTA has it all wrong in terms of where they've located tournaments, etc. What are they trying to do? Rule the world? If the largest viewers of tennis come from America/Europe, then put the tournaments THERE. I don't understand why they seem like they have to put a tournament in every crook in the world...

eck
Mar 1st, 2011, 05:15 AM
Where's Krookodile?:p

Well, not surprising. Tennis isn't that popular yet in Malaysia, the government seems to be trying to make it popular, but I guess to no avail.:p

I'm having lunch. :)
It's quite a hot day today, but yeah, what can you expect when this tournament is not even broadcasted on TV here?
I can't even tell where the entry is. It's like this little entrance below a highway :o
It's quite poorly promoted. You see these things along the road, but the dates are so freaking small and there is no entry admission price.

thegreendestiny
Mar 1st, 2011, 05:15 AM
KL Fail. See they even rhyme.

Territory
Mar 1st, 2011, 05:19 AM
Like it was said in the previous post, It's just a bad idea to hold women's tennis tournaments in conservative muslim countries.

Just being nit-picky here but...

Malaysia isn't a conservative muslim country - it's quite a liberal muslim country.

Tennis just doesn't register with Malaysians as a sport they're interested in. Still, you'd think there'd be enough expats in KL to be able to draw some sort of crowd. I bet it's stinking hot though - is it a nice tennis centre with decent shade? If it's not, I wouldn't wanna sit there all afternoon watching journeywomen slogging it out.

What was the crowd for Dokic/Schiavone like?

eck
Mar 1st, 2011, 05:24 AM
It's also a working day. And the public transportation to here is virtually non-existent. But it's surrounded in a posh area, so I'm somewhat surprised no ones there... But not that surprised.

PhilePhile
Mar 1st, 2011, 05:29 AM
Just being nit-picky here but...

Malaysia isn't a conservative muslim country - it's quite a liberal muslim country.

Tennis just doesn't register with Malaysians as a sport they're interested in. Still, you'd think there'd be enough expats in KL to be able to draw some sort of crowd. I bet it's stinking hot though - is it a nice tennis centre with decent shade? If it's not, I wouldn't wanna sit there all afternoon watching journeywomen slogging it out.

What was the crowd for Dokic/Schiavone like?

Excluding staffs and club members ... about 0 :tennis:

eck
Mar 1st, 2011, 05:33 AM
I just realized entry for the first three days is free. :hysteric:

Sp!ffy
Mar 1st, 2011, 05:40 AM
^:happy::happy::happy::happy::happy::happy:

eck
Mar 1st, 2011, 05:42 AM
^ :ras: maybe I'll go there tomorrow and do a shout out to TF.

ElusiveChanteuse
Mar 1st, 2011, 06:25 AM
You definitely should.:haha: Good luck.:p

eck
Mar 1st, 2011, 06:27 AM
I decided perhaps not. If there's no one there, it means I'm going to be the only one there :tape:

edificio
Mar 1st, 2011, 06:42 AM
I decided perhaps not. If there's no one there, it means I'm going to be the only one there :tape:

The players would love you.

Actually, there are a few fans for Date Krumm/Kremer. More birds and bits of something falling from the sky.

eck
Mar 1st, 2011, 06:49 AM
I'm pretty sure 90% of the supporters are for Date-Krumm.
Mont Kiara(near the equestrian) is heavily populated with Japanese.

So Disrespectful
Mar 1st, 2011, 06:53 AM
They're all getting ready for Dokic vs Nara tomorrow :banana:

Nicky2002
Mar 1st, 2011, 07:04 AM
WTA should hand this event back to Bangkok.

Renalicious
Mar 1st, 2011, 07:14 AM
Screenshot, anyone?

That's quite sad to hear. It's weird because Malaysia is quite a similar country to Indonesia (not to be racist, but it is... I'm part Indonesian.) and Indonesia seems to have no major problems drawing a crowd to their Bali tournament, and their tennis clubs are almost always well-used.

eck
Mar 1st, 2011, 07:21 AM
^Indonesia had Widjaja.


Malaysia had......:tape:

Dexter
Mar 1st, 2011, 07:26 AM
Screenshot, anyone?

That's quite sad to hear. It's weird because Malaysia is quite a similar country to Indonesia (not to be racist, but it is... I'm part Indonesian.) and Indonesia seems to have no major problems drawing a crowd to their Bali tournament, and their tennis clubs are almost always well-used.Good that you added the bit about you, cuz if you called an Indonesian - Malaysian, heads would roll. :tape::lol:
People here have some general idea about tennis (maybe becuase it's similar to badminton which is their beloved sport) and it gets into the news in the biggest newspapers. No idea why in Malaysia it's less popular.

zhengjieforever
Mar 1st, 2011, 07:42 AM
i saw part of a livestream for morita vs that other girl yesterday... literally no people. at least, i didn't see anyone. you'd think the broadcasters would be smart enough to not give us a view of empty seat after empty seat:p

i would love to have a tennis tournament in my backyard. :o

gorecki
Mar 1st, 2011, 07:43 AM
^Indonesia had Widjaja.


Malaysia had......:tape:

and Yayuk Basuki :cheer:

no time to take a trip across the Causeway! :bigcry:

heart
Mar 1st, 2011, 08:28 AM
even better for real tennis fans then:shrug: you can have all the players for yourselves:lol:

eck
Mar 1st, 2011, 08:43 AM
Good that you added the bit about you, cuz if you called an Indonesian - Malaysian, heads would roll. :tape::lol:
People here have some general idea about tennis (maybe becuase it's similar to badminton which is their beloved sport) and it gets into the news in the biggest newspapers. No idea why in Malaysia it's less popular.

Many reasons.

1. Current no. 1 badminton player is Malaysian. Automatically outshines in tennis.
2. Men's get more coverage then women.
3. Lack of star players. With all due respect to Franny, many Malaysians don't even know 90% of the other players in the field. :tape:
4. Poor promotion. A few weeks ago, there was this banner thing about the tourney spamming everywhere nearby the place. This week I don't even see it anymore. :o And there is absolutely nothing written in the newspapers albeit a very small section. I could ask 100 people off the streets whether they knew when/where it's held, they'd probably think I'm joking.
5. Location. Yes it's quite a nice place, but it's placed in the worst place possible. Entry I think is just by this one route, off the highway.
6. Poor transportation. The other tournament I've been to is AO (yes quite a big difference), and there were multiple ways to get to Melbourne Park. Here, it is only by car. :tape: What's even worse is that primetime matches are 6 PM, which is the time most people get off work (ie. most congested) Getting to point A to point B is a total nightmare.
7. Timing. Last year, I think the tournament coincided with Chinese New Year, which was a long holiday here. This year....nothing.

Elisse
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:16 AM
It is very sad to see no one in the stands....I was watching the streams yesterday and in the Morita match you could hear 1 person clapping like mad, that was it, I think he gave up after that first match and left :o

Does anyone know how much the tickets are? I would think they are pretty cheap but as one poster already said the location is difficult to get to, no public transport there :sad: Originally they wanted to hold this event in a temporary stadium in central KL in front of the Petronas Towers which would have been AMAZING!! :hearts: (And I'm sure would have got at least a few people turn up, even for the curiosity of the whole thing)

I wanted to travel to this tourney myself but it put me off when I found out the venue was a way outside the center of KL.

Honestly, after seeing the field of players this year, I'm glad I didn't go....it's more like a $50k ITF than a WTA event :help:

thegreendestiny
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:17 AM
They should have asked Sharapova/Ivanovic/Wozniacki for the rescue.

zhengjieforever
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:19 AM
if you want an autograph you're bound to get it!
:tape::tape:

if i lived in KL i would be at the match (probably)

Sp!ffy
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:21 AM
It is very sad to see no one in the stands....I was watching the streams yesterday and in the Morita match you could hear 1 person clapping like mad, that was it, I think he gave up after that first match and left :o

Does anyone know how much the tickets are? I would think they are pretty cheap but as one poster already said the location is difficult to get to, no public transport there :sad: Originally they wanted to hold this event in a temporary stadium in central KL in front of the Petronas Towers which would have been AMAZING!! :hearts: (And I'm sure would have got at least a few people turn up, even for the curiosity of the whole thing)

I wanted to travel to this tourney myself but it put me off when I found out the venue was a way outside the center of KL.

Honestly, after seeing the field of players this year, I'm glad I didn't go....it's more like a $50k ITF than a WTA event :help:

The tickets are free the first few days...

Beat
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:29 AM
in the Morita match you could hear 1 person clapping like mad, that was it, I think he gave up after that first match and left :o

:spit:

eck
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:33 AM
Tickets for the entire tournament is fairly cheap.

Most expensive is RM75, which is approximately $25 US dollars.

ElusiveChanteuse
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:40 AM
I decided perhaps not. If there's no one there, it means I'm going to be the only one there :tape:

even better for real tennis fans then:shrug: you can have all the players for yourselves:lol:
Yeah. You would definitely be loved there.:lol:

Screenshot, anyone?

That's quite sad to hear. It's weird because Malaysia is quite a similar country to Indonesia (not to be racist, but it is... I'm part Indonesian.) and Indonesia seems to have no major problems drawing a crowd to their Bali tournament, and their tennis clubs are almost always well-used.
Indonesia is way better in terms of accepting/receiving foreign culture/people.

Many reasons.

1. Current no. 1 badminton player is Malaysian. Automatically outshines in tennis.
2. Men's get more coverage then women.
3. Lack of star players. With all due respect to Franny, many Malaysians don't even know 90% of the other players in the field. :tape:
4. Poor promotion. A few weeks ago, there was this banner thing about the tourney spamming everywhere nearby the place. This week I don't even see it anymore. :o And there is absolutely nothing written in the newspapers albeit a very small section. I could ask 100 people off the streets whether they knew when/where it's held, they'd probably think I'm joking.
5. Location. Yes it's quite a nice place, but it's placed in the worst place possible. Entry I think is just by this one route, off the highway.
6. Poor transportation. The other tournament I've been to is AO (yes quite a big difference), and there were multiple ways to get to Melbourne Park. Here, it is only by car. :tape: What's even worse is that primetime matches are 6 PM, which is the time most people get off work (ie. most congested) Getting to point A to point B is a total nightmare.
7. Timing. Last year, I think the tournament coincided with Chinese New Year, which was a long holiday here. This year....nothing.
+1. :worship: I can foresee this event to be scrapped within the next 3 years.

It is very sad to see no one in the stands....I was watching the streams yesterday and in the Morita match you could hear 1 person clapping like mad, that was it, I think he gave up after that first match and left :o

Does anyone know how much the tickets are? I would think they are pretty cheap but as one poster already said the location is difficult to get to, no public transport there :sad: Originally they wanted to hold this event in a temporary stadium in central KL in front of the Petronas Towers which would have been AMAZING!! :hearts: (And I'm sure would have got at least a few people turn up, even for the curiosity of the whole thing)

I wanted to travel to this tourney myself but it put me off when I found out the venue was a way outside the center of KL.

Honestly, after seeing the field of players this year, I'm glad I didn't go....it's more like a $50k ITF than a WTA event :help:
I'm glad you have made a very wise choice.:yeah:

If it were to be held in the centre of KL, I guess the ticket price would be quite high too but at least someone would go watch it.

Darop.
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:48 AM
Firstly, it's almost 2:00 in the afternoon there. And even for a morning match, you should still be able to at least get some fans in the seats, even if they're not big name players.

Like it was said in the previous post, It's just a bad idea to hold women's tennis tournaments in conservative muslim countries. There isn't the interest needed.

In which "conservative muslim countries" does WTA hold tournaments? :scratch:

And I really don't think this is about where the tournament is being held. Women's tennis is just lame now, and everyone thinks so except us WTA tards.

Whitehead's Boy
Mar 1st, 2011, 10:19 AM
If Malaysia is a conservative Muslim country WTH are there Chinese girls walking around wearing 1cm long shorts?

Tier III and below just doesn't work in most places in Asia. People are working, the tournaments are held in the middle of nowhere, nobody cares about the players, etc It has very litte to do with the current state of the tour.

Mr.Sharapova
Mar 1st, 2011, 10:37 AM
WTA should stop trying promote the sport in places where the sport its not bound to be promoted :shrug:.

Apparently there is no one in the stands in this tournament, as I'm watching the Safina match. And still Safina is a well known name to the world of Tennis :angel:.

I'm afraid Baku a tournament added this year to the calendar will have the same amount of attendance :sobbing:

Linguae^
Mar 1st, 2011, 11:32 AM
Belgrade, better get your tournament soon. :o

Wiggly
Mar 1st, 2011, 01:21 PM
The WTA is going to where the money is instead of where the fans are.
Huge mistake.

Langers
Mar 1st, 2011, 01:30 PM
Worthless without screen caps.

Juju Nostalgique
Mar 1st, 2011, 01:31 PM
you could hear 1 person clapping like mad :help:

Probably, a WTAworld poster! :tape:

eck
Mar 1st, 2011, 01:49 PM
Probably, a WTAworld poster! :tape:

Imperfect Angel. :angel:

Dave.
Mar 1st, 2011, 03:38 PM
The WTA is going to where the money is instead of where the fans are.
Huge mistake.

You would think the two are connected.

sammy01
Mar 1st, 2011, 03:48 PM
You would think the two are connected.

:hug: how innocent :p

Dave.
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:02 PM
:hug: how innocent :p

Indeed :tape:

Break My Rapture
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:09 PM
I wonder what the players feel about it. :spit:

stangtennis
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:16 PM
Malysia and Kuala Lumpur are more into badminton, where you are allowed to have fun and cheer during points and where Malaysia have a world star.

The current badminton men's singles world #1 ranked player is Lee Chong Wei from Malaysia:
http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=14955

Here's a couple of picture from the semi-finals day of the PROTON Malaysia Open Super Series 2011 in badminton, held in January.

http://penguin-r2.blogspot.com/2011/01/malaysian-badminton-open-2011.html

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2Qo9d6e4BpY/TT7A8ftlouI/AAAAAAABBbE/VPlJB7lBNOA/s1600/Badminton%2BMalaysia%2BOpen%2B2011_e.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2Qo9d6e4BpY/TT7A8IWOOHI/AAAAAAABBa8/KrG8AtE_d7k/s1600/Badminton%2BMalaysia%2BOpen%2B2011_g.jpg
http://www.mycoolthing.com/images/kien-keat-boon-heong.jpg

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8067472-three-c130-aircrafts-of-malaysian-royal-airforce-set-to-evacuate-students-from-egypt/image/71324982-malaysia-s-lee-hits-a-return-to-indonesia-s-hidayat-in-the-men-s-singles-finals-of
http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/event/598/486/71324982-malaysias-lee.jpg
Malaysia's Lee hits a return to Indonesia's Hidayat in the men's singles finals of Malaysian Badminton Open Super Series 2011 in Kuala Lumpur

Ryan
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:21 PM
It's a ridiculously stupid place to have a tennis tournament anyway. Lower tier shouldn't mean lower quality location. WTA needs to hit markets that they know work (USA, bigger European cities) and if they go to new ones, don't leave China/Japan IMO.

TheBoiledEgg
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:22 PM
It's a ridiculously stupid place to have a tennis tournament anyway. Lower tier shouldn't mean lower quality location. WTA needs to hit markets that they know work (USA, bigger European cities) and if they go to new ones, don't leave China/Japan IMO.


corrected :wavey:

Ryan
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:27 PM
At least China has money, thats why they should go there. At least a few times. ;)

Nicolás89
Mar 1st, 2011, 04:33 PM
Please don't turn this into a WTA vs ATP discussion....

Raz0r
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:31 PM
It is VERY hot in the late morning and afternoon. You wouldn't catch me outdoors in that weather if I wasn't a tennis fanatic.

Sally Todd
Mar 1st, 2011, 09:37 PM
TheWTA should sponsor people here as touring fans.

Renalicious
Mar 1st, 2011, 10:58 PM
^Indonesia had Widjaja.


Malaysia had......:tape:

True, but even then... Widjaja and Basuki were many many years ago :o Poor Malaysia :awww:

wateva
Mar 1st, 2011, 11:05 PM
i'm sure the crowd will pick up on fri. because i'll be there! :lol:

ElusiveChanteuse
Mar 2nd, 2011, 12:09 AM
Imperfect Angel. :angel:
:ras:

Malysia and Kuala Lumpur are more into badminton, where you are allowed to have fun and cheer during points and where Malaysia have a world star.

The current badminton men's singles world #1 ranked player is Lee Chong Wei from Malaysia:

:yawn:

True, but even then... Widjaja and Basuki were many many years ago :o Poor Malaysia :awww:
:o

i'm sure the crowd will pick up on fri. because i'll be there! :lol:
Until then we may only see one spectator there.:p Enjoy.:wavey: :lol:

Chet
Mar 2nd, 2011, 12:31 AM
I wonder if it would've made any difference if this tournament were held in Singapore rather than Malaysia. Maybe not, though I remember having seen Gabriela Sabatini playing in a Singapore tournament when I was a kid and there were lots of people milling around. Singapore and Malaysia are both soccer-mad nations. If this were soccer, I think there would be more people out, wherever it may be located.

PhilePhile
Mar 2nd, 2011, 12:46 AM
Exhibition tennis in Singapore (summer of 08):

VB4_r1VB03o&NR=1


YKDCcJS1om0&feature=related

Chet
Mar 2nd, 2011, 12:49 AM
Great. I did suspect there were more tennis fans in S'pore than in M'sia.

ElusiveChanteuse
Mar 2nd, 2011, 12:53 AM
It's a high class sport after all and high class people would definitely appreciate it.:p Singapore is definitely in that league compared to Malaysia.:angel:

wateva
Mar 2nd, 2011, 04:32 AM
the event (exho between maria and anna) was a massive failure.
tickets were priced too high and in the end, nike had to resort to giving out free tickets with any purchase. :o
the recent challenger event had a modest turnout but the event venue was woeful. the player's lounge was a make-shift tent and tursunov complained it to be the smelliest lounge he's ever been to.
imo, singaporeans will only attend tennis tournaments if the prices are below 20SGD. or else, expect the same crowds as KL. :tape:

tsmile789
Mar 2nd, 2011, 06:20 AM
Dementieva was in the final last year.
They restrict the top players from playing a lot of mickey mouses.
Caro isnt playing this week, because she's not allowed to play all the MM's she wants to.

Why? Btw what does MM means?

Navratil
Mar 2nd, 2011, 06:29 AM
Challenge for the organizers: Make a kids day, a women's day, get some local celebreties, - whatever! But do something!

Sp!ffy
Mar 2nd, 2011, 06:32 AM
Why? Btw what does MM means?

Mickey Mouse

Svetlana)))
Mar 2nd, 2011, 07:00 AM
the event (exho between maria and anna) was a massive failure.
tickets were priced too high and in the end, nike had to resort to giving out free tickets with any purchase. :o
the recent challenger event had a modest turnout but the event venue was woeful. the player's lounge was a make-shift tent and tursunov complained it to be the smelliest lounge he's ever been to.
imo, singaporeans will only attend tennis tournaments if the prices are below 20SGD. or else, expect the same crowds as KL. :tape:

They later played matches at SICC which members could go to. The facilities at SICC are top-notch, I've played there before. The only problem is that it's an exclusive club and there are very little seats. I still think that Singapore should not host a WTA event. Lack of skilled linespeople and umpires + many tennis "fans" are completely unknowledgeable.

Singleniacki
Mar 2nd, 2011, 07:04 AM
I hear people clapping! :D

ElusiveChanteuse
Mar 2nd, 2011, 07:12 AM
:lol:

Halepsova
Mar 2nd, 2011, 08:36 AM
Everyone is scared of Bartoli hitting the ball to.

M.P
Mar 2nd, 2011, 09:19 AM
Hong Kong and Taiwan :cheer:
we have many people :cheer:

benbest
Mar 2nd, 2011, 09:23 AM
I spotted somebody

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/610/picture48.png (http://img853.imageshack.us/i/picture48.png/)

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Corswandt
Mar 2nd, 2011, 09:36 AM
the player's lounge was a make-shift tent

:rolleyes:

The biggest, bestest tournament in the world has a tent for players' lounge.

Elisse
Mar 2nd, 2011, 10:29 AM
I spotted somebody

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/610/picture48.png (http://img853.imageshack.us/i/picture48.png/)

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:D

LOL that's not a paying fan though, it's Noppawan Lertcheewakarn waiting for her match :lol:

Attendance there has been terrible :help:

BuTtErFrEnA
Mar 2nd, 2011, 11:26 AM
:D

LOL that's not a paying fan though, it's Noppawan Lertcheewakarn waiting for her match :lol:

Attendance there has been terrible :help:


:tape:

Mynarco
Mar 2nd, 2011, 11:30 AM
WTF is Nop doing there :tape:?

Break My Rapture
Mar 2nd, 2011, 11:51 AM
I spotted somebody

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/610/picture48.png (http://img853.imageshack.us/i/picture48.png/)

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:sobbing: :sobbing: :sobbing:



Kuala Lumpur crowd sighting is defo the new shit.

-Sonic-
Mar 2nd, 2011, 11:55 AM
And there are people on here suggesting tournaments in really wacky
Places that'll have eveness chance of getting spectators than KL....

Raz0r
Mar 2nd, 2011, 12:11 PM
I was there from Saturday to Monday, and I got to sit in the shaded VIP seating area because there weren't any VIPs attending :p Players came and went throughout the day, so I was only a few seats away from Bartoli, Jovanovski, Kremer, Buyukakcay, Nakamura, Kucova, Saisai and a few other Asian players I couldn't recognize :cool:

Hian
Mar 2nd, 2011, 12:20 PM
:spit:

eck
Mar 6th, 2011, 12:30 PM
There are people there! :cheer: