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Roookie
Feb 11th, 2011, 09:28 PM
You can hear the song here:

http://www1.rollingstone.com/hearitnow/player/ladygaga.html

GsVcUzP_O_8

Dodoboy.
Feb 11th, 2011, 09:48 PM
First thought that came into my head too!

FORZA SARITA
Feb 11th, 2011, 09:49 PM
indeed :lol:
her worst single so far:tape:

Sgt.Timmykinz
Feb 11th, 2011, 09:56 PM
Does it matter? Its breaking record left right and centre, its confirmed GaGa is the 'Queen of pop' and her competition has no answer. I bet in the next few years we'll see Britney, Christina, Ke$ha, Rihanna all dropped from their labels because they won't be able to recreate what GaGa has! I'm not even a fan but you can only stare in awe at what she's achieved.

Andy.
Feb 11th, 2011, 10:54 PM
'Rookie's thread about Gaga - A shameless attempt at being negative'

So what no artist can ever sing about being the person you are and embrassing that :rolleyes: give me a break.

The Negativity on this forum is ridiculous. Its so much easier to be negative than be positive. Your message is completly opposite to what this song is trying to promote. Go and get laid then you might be a little happier.

Apoleb
Feb 11th, 2011, 11:02 PM
Does it matter? Its breaking record left right and centre, its confirmed GaGa is the 'Queen of pop' and her competition has no answer. I bet in the next few years we'll see Britney, Christina, Ke$ha, Rihanna all dropped from their labels because they won't be able to recreate what GaGa has! I'm not even a fan but you can only stare in awe at what she's achieved.

It was going to happen regardless of what the single was. The hype was ridiculous. And no, it does matter for her future prospects.

Anyways, this is shit. A poor man's Express Yourself with bad lyrics that actually takes itself seriously without a hint of irony. RS called it "better than Express Yourself" but after how Britney's latest was received, nothing surprises me anymore.

~{X}~
Feb 11th, 2011, 11:06 PM
# 1 in 30 countries I believe. ;)

hankqq
Feb 11th, 2011, 11:07 PM
Considering all the people Madonna has ripped off in her career, why should it be a big deal if someone rips her off? :lol: :shrug:

Joana
Feb 11th, 2011, 11:08 PM
Does it matter? Its breaking record left right and centre, its confirmed GaGa is the 'Queen of pop' and her competition has no answer. I bet in the next few years we'll see Britney, Christina, Ke$ha, Rihanna all dropped from their labels because they won't be able to recreate what GaGa has! I'm not even a fan but you can only stare in awe at what she's achieved.

Yes! Lady Gaga will be the only singer in the world. In fact, Our Lady of Gaga is going to take over the world. Like in "1984", we're all going to have radios that play Our Lady's songs 24/7. Those who disobey will be dealt with quickly and mercilessly. Children at schools will learn about Our Lady and literature classes will consist in analyzing her poetry. And yes, it will be mandatory. Our Lady's face will grace every wall in every house in every street.
What a brave new world!

LeRoy.
Feb 11th, 2011, 11:46 PM
# 1 in 30 countries I believe. ;)


are there even 30 countries with Itunes chart ?

~{X}~
Feb 11th, 2011, 11:52 PM
are there even 30 countries with Itunes chart ?

I count 22, but I heard 30 from somewhere, so it may actually just be 22.

Might of been a typo. :shrug:

~{X}~
Feb 11th, 2011, 11:56 PM
K it is 22 countries. :haha: Gotta tell the person it was 22, not 30! Thanks!

LeRoy.
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:12 AM
http://www.advocate.com/Arts_and_Entertainment/Media/The_Lady_in_The_Slaughter/



The Lady in The Slaughter

With her new single, the Lady Gaga backlash finally begins. Advocate contributor Zack Rosen wants to know why did it take so long?
By Zack Rosen (http://www.advocate.com/authors.aspx?searchterm=Advocate%20Contributors)

If you're remotely aligned with the mainstream queer community, if you're a pop music aficionado or contrarian hipster or simply a member of the human race that has the misfortune to live anywhere beside a YouTube-less desert island, you've probably heard Lady Gaga's new single "Born This Way."
Here's what you should do next. Turn off your stereo. Open your windows. Take a deep breath and just listen. That noise you hear? It isn't nearby construction or birds cawwing. Its not the rumbling of a train or even the low roar of the ocean. It's not an American Eagle-clad youth screaming "Whoo!" in your ear at a megadisco.

That noise is one million gay men simultaneously vomiting up the kool-aid of arbitrarily prescribed cultural icons. And I don't know why it took so long.

This morning, Facebook was abuzz with disappointment about the latest lump of sequined coal to fall from Stefani Germanotta's meat diaper into our open ears. And by some blessed miracle, some divine intervention of truth and common sense, that buzz was not good.

Activist types (http://zackfordblogs.com/2011/02/born-this-way-makes-it-better-but-for-whom/) were dismayed about Gaga's exclusive marketing deal with Target. Club fags found the song to have crossed the line between "Madonna homage" and "'Express Yourself'-related intellectual property lawsuit." And everyone else imploring the world to shut up about Lady Gaga, already, was finally in some good company.

Lady Gaga is a brilliant self-marketer who writes stellar hooks and looks good wearing items that appear to have been fished out of Karen O's dumpster. I find her songs to be as emotionally evocative as lichen but they make me dance. And that's pretty awesome. I do not, however, understand how she transitioned into the shortcut for all things gay. She doesn't represent my life, no matter how many times she might be played at a gay bar or how many men take pride in knowing the entire "Bad Romance" dance by heart. Contemporary gay culture has become so entwined with this one woman that I can barely breathe

I am forced to keep abreast of her every single move by the endless, breathless accounts of gay blogs, gay clubs, and overly enthusiastic gay friends. So I might crank "Paparazzi" when I'm at home alone, but the rest of the time I just want her to be de-canonized as a homosexual omnipresence so I can go on with my life. I do believe in culture as politics. But Lady Gaga is not culture.

mckyle.
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:13 AM
Good Lord LeRoy is sooooooooooo obsessed :sobbing:

LeRoy.
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:18 AM
Good Lord LeRoy is sooooooooooo obsessed :sobbing:

I am a little monster. Don't Hold It Against Me coz I was Born This Way

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/britney-vs-gaga-which-single-is-better-1005032182.story

http://perezhilton.com/2011-02-11-britney-vs-gaga

mckyle.
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:19 AM
I love how The Advocate was calling Gaga a "fierce advocate" of gay rights five months ago and now they're ripping her apart. I guess Gaga was right when she says they just want to build you up to break you down.

L8WA4BdZsAU

~{X}~
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:22 AM
Gaga will always have more haters because she is different in looks and the way she acts and not cut from the cloth pop bubblegum royalty. She is artistically crazy already... and not well crazy period.

Though the two songs sound very different and should not be compared, in my opinion both singles were below par of what the artists could have done and I am eagerly awaiting both of their albums when they are released to see them as a whole instead of just one song.

LeRoy.
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:24 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/11/lady-gagas-new-born-this-way-song-sound-like-express-yoursel/?icid=sphere_billboard

84% :awww:

LeRoy.
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:28 AM
"Born This Way" Isn't Good


Tons of hype circulated around Lady Gaga's new single "Born This Way" that's off of her upcoming record, which is also titledBorn This Way (which is due out on May 23, 2011). According to Lady Gaga herself,Born This Wayis going to be "The album of our generation" as well as "The album of the decade." Both of these statements were put the test when Lady Gaga released her new single, "Born This Way" on February 11th, 2011.


I must admit that I was eager to hear "Born This Way." For an artist to make such bold claims, as stating her new album would be the best out of ten years, the thought that I would be disappointed never crossed my mind. Lady Gaga has some great tracks within her albums The Fameand The Fame Monster,so I figured we'd all get the chance to hear another single that would ultimately rock the radio waves for the next 5 months. Of course, disappointment set in after the first time I listened to it. Lady Gagas "Born This Way" fails on every level. The song "Born This Way" simply put, is not good. I didn't want to write a negative review over an artist that I somewhat respect, but I had no choice. A negative review of "Born This Way" was necessary.

Upon first listen, Lady Gaga's "Born This Way" reminds me of a song that would be played in the trailer of a Lifetime movie about two fat girls trying to make their way in the big city, or played during a schick razor commercial. "Born This Way" follows a format that has worked for Lady Gaga in the past, synth music dancing around the background, lyrics that don't make you think too much, a small whiff of some artistic creativity that's surpressed intentionally for album sells, but it simply doesn't work. There are only so many times that an artist can rehash the same old song and have the typical formula work.

Lady Gaga's "Born This Way" fails on every level, because it doesn't seem like there's any honest effort involved. The lyrics read like middle school poetry about politically correct diversity, the synth sounds like a B-side to Lady Gaga's other works, and the song just seems way to corny. For an album to be deemed "album of the year", I would expect the first single to be something special. The song doesn't seem to hold much merit, except through the headphones of a "no one understands me" adolescent, or a gay pride rally. At one point during "Born This Way", Lady Gaga repeats the phrase "Don't be a drag, just be a queen." This lyric is almost too awkward to listen to, and screams that she's trying way too hard to push conventional boundaries, making the overall theme of "Born This Way" extremely forced.


I'm sure this song will sell millions of units because of the pop phenomenon that is Lady Gaga, however, the timelessness that she's striving for, along with the Madonna-esque comparisons, will slowly deplete if the album Born This Waycontains as much garbage as the single "Born This Way" has. My only problem with The Fame was that the weird style of her persona wasn't illuminated through her works, and she implemented more of her weirdness within The Fame Monster,much to my appreciation. I figured she would step out of her confined box with Born This Wayand go all out. It seems like she somewhat attempts that through "Born This Way", but it fails on every level because it's forced. She retreated back to her formula of repeating a phrase over and over (Born This Way), yet it's just not as catchy. It seems as if the originality that she's trying to have her fan-base centered around, is in the same vein as an episode of Sesame Street that tells one to simply "Be Themselves." This isn't the type of message that pop music typically impliments, because pop music is honestly more intelligent than that.

Why the song "Born This Way" fails on every level, and why the album Born This Waywill most likely fail, is because Lady Gaga is picking out a small portion of her fan base. The song is not geared to the vast audience that centered around her previous albums, but to a select group of super fans that are honestly few and far between. She had the choice to cover a wide range of pop topics such as love, loss of love, having fun, etc. yet she chose originality, because it will appeal to her super fans (which is mainly comprised of homosexuals and high school girls). Born this way does not sound like a radio hit (though I'm probably wrong), it does not sound like it could be blared from the speakers of a club, and it does not sound like it could draw in any new fans.

It was hard to write a negative review for Lady Gaga, simply because Lady Gaga is currently pop music. I have so much respect for the pop genre, and Lady Gaga as well, but the song forced me to write a negative review. "Born This Way" may have been successful as a filler track on The Fame, but it pushes no new ground, especially if it's the single on an album that's supposed to be "the album of our generation" as well as "the album of the decade." On May 23, 2011, if Lady Gaga's Born This Way becomes the album of our generation, than I no longer have any hope for the concept of the album (http://www.infobarrel.com/The_Death_of_The_Album), and I no longer have hope for my generation.


:awww:

Crazy Canuck
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:28 AM
Does it matter? Its breaking record left right and centre, its confirmed GaGa is the 'Queen of pop' and her competition has no answer. I bet in the next few years we'll see Britney, Christina, Ke$ha, Rihanna all dropped from their labels because they won't be able to recreate what GaGa has! I'm not even a fan but you can only stare in awe at what she's achieved.
According to this logic, we ought to applaud Charlie Sheen for his behaviour. Oh, wait. His network already did that by giving him a raise. Well then, carry on.

~{X}~
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:30 AM
LeRoy darling, do you understand that reviews do not matter? The song is selling and thats what matters in the end. Same with movies, a movie can get shitty reviews and still make the money. Reviews don't matter much.

In the end, each review is just 1 person's opinion.

Crazy Canuck
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Just to clarify: There isn't anybody in this thread that responds to valid Lady Gaga criticism with "omgsojelus!" or "$talks,bitches!" who is over the age of 15, right? The adults among us realize that even our favorite artists, who have in the past done amazing things, sometimes shit the bed; that our idols are not flawless, and the world will not end if they are ever proven to be less than perfect. Right? There are still mature, intelligent people here, right?

Hello?

Those were real questions. I'm very concerned.

~{X}~
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:35 AM
Just to clarify: There isn't anybody in this thread that responds to valid Lady Gaga criticism with "omgsojelus!" or "$talks,bitches!" who is over the age of 15, right? The adults among us realize that even our favorite artists, who have in the past done amazing things, sometimes shit the bed; that our idols are not flawless, and the world will not end if they are ever proven to be less than perfect. Right? There are still mature, intelligent people here, right?

Hello?

Those were real questions. I'm very concerned.

I for one have not said anything about jealousy or bitches or anything of that matter. I even said that the song by each wasn't as good as expected on my half or as good as they could do and that I look forward to seeing what the rest of the albums, for both Britney and Gaga sound like.

LeRoy.
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:36 AM
After months of teasing lyrics (http://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/30754163218456576), artwork (http://twitpic.com/3xs45p), and release dates (http://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/21068576639160320), Lady Gaga has finally released her highly anticipated new single "Born This Way," from her album due out this May. Check it out below (or head to Gaga's official site (http://www.ladygaga.com/bornthisway/index.htm) to pre-order the album and get the single now).

At first, "Born This Way" sounds like trademark Gaga: all icy synths, thumping house beats, and a massive, theatrical chorus that splits the difference between Madonna's 1989 classic "Express Yourself" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsVcUzP_O_8) and David Guetta and Kelly Rowland's 2009 anthem "When Love Takes Over." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zudbz4hOcbc) But the song is also one of Gaga's most overtly political ones, with an inspirational (if heavy-handed) message about embracing and celebrating diversity. Consider "Born This Way" to be Gaga's rejiggering of Michael Jackson's 1991 single "Black or White." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2AitTPI5U0)

"Don't be a drag, just be a queen, whether you're broke or evergreen," Gaga raps mid-song, over buzzing synths and a four-on-the-floor beat. "You're black, white, beige, Chola descent / You're Lebanese, you're Orient…Rejoice and love yourself today / 'Cause baby you were born this way."
Based on all the hype surrounding the single, you'd think Gaga was releasing a song as epic and instantly classic as the Beatles' "A Day in the Life" or Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody." Imagine what she'd come up with if she'd spent more than ten minutes (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1657656/lady-gaga-vogue.jhtml) writing "Born This Way."


:awww:

LeRoy.
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:38 AM
As the most influential and successful pop star since Britney Spears, Lady GaGa’s return is easily the most highly-anticipated since, well, Britney herself. But unlike Britney, Beyonce, Katy, and the rest of the current crop of pop divas, GaGa has taken a different approach to ensuring that her new single “Born this Way” becomes a hit — rather than keeping quiet and letting the music speak for itself in order to avoid the tall poppy syndrome that strikes every megastar the moment they reach the top, GaGa and everybody around her have taken to hyping up her return to something akin to the resurrection of Jesus Christ himself. GaGa’s promised the Born this Way album would be “the greatest of the decade”, while Vogue called the single “the anthem of every gay-pride event for the next 100 years”. Elton John said it was the new “I Will Survive”, Popjustice called it “amazing” and better than “Hold It Against Me”, and GaGa’s BFF Perez Hilton went as far as to say it would “change culture” and “save lives”.
But please don’t ask if it meets the hype — that would just be stupid. Of course it doesn’t meet the hype — nothing could ever meet the hype that GaGa has created around the entire Born this Way project. What we should be asking ourselves is, “How does it stack up against other big pop songs?”.
Let’s get started. The first thing you’ll notice about “Born this Way” is its startling resemblance to Madonna’s “Express Yourself”, which is so blatantly obvious that “Express Yourself” actually began trending on Twitter immediately after the song’s premiere. There’s also a sprinkling of the Minogue sisters in “Born this Way”, an old Queer as Folk soundtrack, some of TLC’s “Waterfalls”, and every single homolicious remix that was ever played during the 90s in any gay bar across the world. Yep, in case you haven’t been able to tell yet, “Born this Way” is very, very gay. It’s gayer than Cher’s film ‘Burlesque’, gayer than the ‘Glee’ “Teenage Dream” cover, and even gayer than an episode of RuPaul’s ‘Drag Race’. Not that that’s exactly a bad thing, but when you’re trying to create a universal pop record, then it really is.
The production is definitely praiseworthy, though. Fernando Garibay has always been criminally underrated as a producer, and combined with the nightclub leanings of DJ White Shadow and Lady GaGa’s own vision of creating her own homo anthem, the trio have crafted a beat that is both completely retro while simultaneously fresh and cutting edge. The beat is so bangin’ that it even masks GaGa’s poorly-written, yet fiercely catchy lyrics, which don’t sound nearly as bad once drowned out amongst the instrumentation as they did when she first revealed them on Twitter two weeks ago.
Other than that, there’s nothing specifically good or bad about “Born this Way”. On a night out on the town, you probably won’t find anything better to dance to than this — especially since in its essence it resembles a remix more than an original pop record — but overall, it’s not something that’s going to really warrant extra listens when you’re running some errands with your iPod on. “Born this Way” isn’t going to “change culture”, and while it does have the obvious potential to become a gay club classic, it lacks the timeless quality of something like Katy Perry’s “Teenage Dream” or Rihanna’s “Umbrella” to really become a true classic in every sense of the word.
And funnily enough, while everybody is busy pitting “Born this Way” against “Hold It Against Me”, the true comparison should be against a foul-mouthed little lady named Ke$ha. If there’s going to be a winner when it comes to these countless self-acceptance pop anthems (and there are many to choose from — just look at the charts), it’s going to be “We R Who We R”. Ke$ha’s carefree spirit, frivolous lyrics and penchant for fighting all things pretentious make “We R Who We R” the type of genuine, all-encompassing record that can make anybody feel good for three and a half minutes. On the other hand, GaGa — who exceeds with her darker pop nuggets like “Bad Romance”, “Monster”, and “Paparazzi” — is just too meticulously put together, calculated, and far too serious to pull off something as fun as “Born This Way” sounds.
Good job GaGa, but don’t get too ahead of yourself — you’re not as good as you think you are, at least not yet. “Born this Way” is cute and it’ll definitely make you swear, but it’s also a Madonna knock-off, and a knock-off does not make an icon.




:awww:

F-R-E-A-K
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:39 AM
No more GaGa threads on Born This Way. :hysteric:

The admins/mods have already merged 2/3 threads already.

Feel free to post in the other thread. :wavey: