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cellophane
Feb 2nd, 2011, 12:25 AM
And proud of it. :o He thinks women are "bitches" whose place is in the kitchen/bedroom and wants go live in Saudia Arabia because he could have a harem there :help: Oh and apparently this is how it was always meant to be because God gave Eve to Adam because Adam was bored :help: :weirdo:

I just don't know how people can be this fucked up and say this shit with a straight face in this day and age... yes I get he is 19 and all BUT still :o

I told him it's disgusting by the way and that he is full of shit to which he answered "You say that I'm full of shit but you don't explain why". Honestly, I don't even know why this is something that needs to be explained...

ampers&
Feb 2nd, 2011, 01:45 AM
Eek. That's tragic. But he's young so he still has time to grow...people change. Sounds like he's been brainwashed from a very young age. You should probably explain why you think it's disgusting. Even if it doesn't need to be explained. Sounds like he's needs another point of view on the female equality issue. And you're close enough to him to be his tennis partner. Maybe he'll listen.

Sally Struthers
Feb 2nd, 2011, 01:45 AM
how did you get him as a partner? :shrug:

Perhaps you can suggest that his sexist behavior is overcompensation for his insecurity over his masculinity :devil:

cellophane
Feb 2nd, 2011, 01:53 AM
^He was looking for someone to play with and contacted me.

I honestly don't even know how to explain it to him when he is going to say absolutely :weirdo: stuff like that line about God or "that is how it supposed to be". Honestly, my jaw just drops when I hear stupidity like that.

I think he also listens to a lot of music with "bitches" and "hoes" for lyrics.

And, yeah, Sally, you might be on to something...

Dave.
Feb 2nd, 2011, 01:56 AM
It's terrible. And yes they'll look indignant if you question them. At least you told him.

It's worse when it's a whole group of people congratulating each other on their stupidity.

cellophane
Feb 2nd, 2011, 01:57 AM
Oh, his roommates are like that as well. :o

Dave.
Feb 2nd, 2011, 02:07 AM
Not surprising. And in that environment there's probably a minimum 'level' of pride in their sexism they feel they have to have. :o

Oh and being 19 is no excuse. Not much hope of changing now.

Tripp
Feb 2nd, 2011, 02:16 AM
Well, I've always thought that finding a tennis partner is almost as difficult as finding a boyfriend. I've dealt with some big time douchebags only because they were pretty competitive in a tennis court. And the same reference can be applied as far as relationships go.

Just go find another one, no need to deal with that crap.

cellophane
Feb 2nd, 2011, 02:26 AM
^

I've played with him for a while now actually... since October.

I could play with someone else, but it would be hard to just stop playing with him now, because... well... he will still be coming almost every day, and the courts where I play (at my uni) are available only so often. It's winter here, and I don't really have $ to pay for tennis now.

It does leave a bad taste in my mouth :o

I've already had enough drama with tennis partners... I used to hit with one girl who was acting like a complete bitch, so I stopped hitting with her... and it was just awkward because we both know other people who we play tennis with and I didn't want to run into her :help:

delicatecutter
Feb 2nd, 2011, 02:30 AM
I couldn't associate with someone like that. I wouldn't be able to hide my disgust and things would get very ugly.

ETA: What are his thoughts on gays? Although some of the most misogynistic men I've known have been gay ones.

cellophane
Feb 2nd, 2011, 02:38 AM
^Yeah, I know eh. Damn.

Crazy Canuck
Feb 2nd, 2011, 02:49 AM
Among the more obvious problems with all of this, I think he's confused as to how Saudi Arabia works. Please, somebody let him go there and attempt to build a harem. He can let us know between lashes how that all worked out.

Stamp Paid
Feb 2nd, 2011, 02:52 AM
He sounds like he has an entitlement complex.
And a little dick.

cellophane
Feb 2nd, 2011, 03:07 AM
ETA: What are his thoughts on gays? Although some of the most misogynistic men I've known have been gay ones.

His thoughts on gays? Well he thought all gays lisp and and are basically feminine ( :rolleyes: ) before he met me... he is generally just ignorant :o

darkchild
Feb 2nd, 2011, 03:27 AM
Where to play tennis in Ottawa in winter? :p

cellophane
Feb 2nd, 2011, 03:29 AM
Where to play tennis in Ottawa in winter? :p

Carleton. If you want to play, PM me if you are good. :p ;)

Dominic
Feb 2nd, 2011, 04:21 AM
I think you should explain to him how much of a freak he is, if nobody ever tells him he'll think everyone has the same feelings.

Barrie_Dude
Feb 2nd, 2011, 04:27 AM
And proud of it. :o He thinks women are "bitches" whose place is in the kitchen/bedroom and wants go live in Saudia Arabia because he could have a harem there :help: Oh and apparently this is how it was always meant to be because God gave Eve to Adam because Adam was bored :help: :weirdo:

I just don't know how people can be this fucked up and say this shit with a straight face in this day and age... yes I get he is 19 and all BUT still :o

I told him it's disgusting by the way and that he is full of shit to which he answered "You say that I'm full of shit but you don't explain why". Honestly, I don't even know why this is something that needs to be explained...
My question is why do you play tennis with him? Certainly you can find another partner

pov
Feb 2nd, 2011, 04:36 AM
And proud of it. :o He thinks women are "bitches" whose place is in the kitchen/bedroom and wants go live in Saudia Arabia because he could have a harem there :

Ask him what he thinks about his mother.

Crazy Canuck
Feb 2nd, 2011, 04:46 AM
I don't really see any problem with you playing tennis with somebody that ignorant. Ignorant people need tennis partners, too.

Crazy Canuck
Feb 2nd, 2011, 04:46 AM
Ask him what he thinks about his mother.
I bet she's a sweet cook.

sorceress
Feb 2nd, 2011, 05:42 AM
I couldn't associate with someone like that. I wouldn't be able to hide my disgust and things would get very ugly.

ETA: What are his thoughts on gays? Although some of the most misogynistic men I've known have been gay ones.
Yeah I was going to say, my best mate is fairly misogynistic (except when I'm in town and blast his ear off:lol:).


He sounds like he has an entitlement complex.
And a little dick.
:lol::lol:
I bet she's a sweet cook.
Yeah that's probably where he's got this sort of attitude from.
Mum waiting hand and foot on father who comes home from a hard day's work and does stuff all.

It's amazing how long ago the 1950s were but how prominent the beliefs still are:tape:

Ziggy Starduck
Feb 2nd, 2011, 05:46 AM
I don't know what's worse...his comments to date or the fact that some woman will one day be silly enough to put up with this shit :shrug:

Barrie_Dude
Feb 2nd, 2011, 05:51 AM
I don't know what's worse...his comments to date or the fact that some woman will one day be silly enough to put up with this shit :shrug:
That is the scary part, though it sounds like a great show for Maury or Jerry "Men That Are Ignorant Bastards and The Women That Love Them" :haha:

Barrie_Dude
Feb 2nd, 2011, 05:54 AM
I don't really see any problem with you playing tennis with somebody that ignorant. Ignorant people need tennis partners, too.
There really is not much of a problem, other than if I were off playing tennis and had to listen to that shit it would spoil the game for me. Its bad enough that I have to listen to some ignorant jack asses through my work, but when I am on my dime, trying to destress and have some fun, no way

cellophane
Feb 2nd, 2011, 06:41 AM
He doesn't want to get married / he is aware no woman will probably want to marry him :tape:

Crazy Canuck
Feb 2nd, 2011, 06:55 AM
There really is not much of a problem, other than if I were off playing tennis and had to listen to that shit it would spoil the game for me. Its bad enough that I have to listen to some ignorant jack asses through my work, but when I am on my dime, trying to destress and have some fun, no way
That makes sense. However, I've mastered the art of pretending to listen to people while nodding with interest at appropriate moments, so I'm pretty sure that I could deal.

Crazy Canuck
Feb 2nd, 2011, 06:56 AM
He doesn't want to get married / he is aware no woman will probably want to marry him :tape:
Yes, but only because they're flawed as a result of having grown up after women got the vote, I imagine. Hence, why he'd like to go somewhere that they don't :D

Kart
Feb 2nd, 2011, 07:01 AM
Is this the Barrista?

sorceress
Feb 2nd, 2011, 07:05 AM
He doesn't want to get married / he is aware no woman will probably want to marry him :tape:

I'd be tempted to serve at him when he *ss was facing me:lol:

Barrie_Dude
Feb 2nd, 2011, 07:14 AM
That makes sense. However, I've mastered the art of pretending to listen to people while nodding with interest at appropriate moments, so I'm pretty sure that I could deal.
I have to master that art if I am to remain employed. I have grown accustomed to my paycheque

¤CharlDa¤
Feb 2nd, 2011, 10:50 AM
Carleton bubble :hearts:

(Yes, that definitely didnt bring anything relevant to the discussion.)

cellophane
Feb 2nd, 2011, 02:03 PM
Carleton bubble :hearts:

(Yes, that definitely didnt bring anything relevant to the discussion.)

Oh you've played there?

Kart
Feb 2nd, 2011, 07:23 PM
Is this the Barrista?
:topic:

This may have come across as me being rude but I was serious !!! :sobbing: I live vicariously through tennis forum posters and that story was left without an ending - cellophane some of us have been waiting for ages for the sequel / happy ending :p.

On topic, he sounds like a lost cause so personally I wouldn't bother trying to educate him and find a new tennis partner.

Unless he's good looking in which case I still wouldn't bother but I'd keep him as a tennis partner purely for aesthetics.

The Witch-king
Feb 2nd, 2011, 07:29 PM
tell 'im u used to be a woman

Ferg
Feb 2nd, 2011, 08:14 PM
It sounds to me like hes not being serious.

cellophane
Feb 2nd, 2011, 09:10 PM
It sounds to me like hes not being serious.

He is

cellophane
Feb 2nd, 2011, 09:21 PM
:topic:

This may have come across as me being rude but I was serious !!! :sobbing: I live vicariously through tennis forum posters and that story was left without an ending - cellophane some of us have been waiting for ages for the sequel / happy ending :p.


Nothing happened with the barista... he has a bf... and I lost interest in him anyways.

PlayByPlay
Feb 2nd, 2011, 09:44 PM
Well it is a fact that there are a few men out there who donot like women. I don't know what his mother may have done to him. Its so sad when a man hates women. Its quite sick in fact.

Kart
Feb 2nd, 2011, 11:01 PM
Nothing happened with the barista... he has a bf... and I lost interest in him anyways.
:(

On the plus side, at least your gaydar is good.

edificio
Feb 3rd, 2011, 01:17 AM
If he thinks women are bitches, why does he want to have a harem of women? Best for him to find some compadres with similar views and leave the rest of us alone.

~{X}~
Feb 3rd, 2011, 01:21 AM
Kart... since I have been told you are Indian apparently I am to sleep with you since I find Indian men attractive.

Blame my friend for recommending you. :haha: :lol:

Kart
Feb 3rd, 2011, 09:13 PM
Which friend is that ?

There are plenty of Indian guys on here besides me - you know I :hearts: you Xtian but you can do better than me ;).

Crazy Canuck
Feb 3rd, 2011, 10:52 PM
This thread just got weird.

Beat
Feb 4th, 2011, 02:16 PM
he doesn't "just" sound sexist, but thick as pig shit. it's actually a good question whether it's worth investing energy into discussions with such a person. if you don't think it's worth it (because h's too dumb to understand anyways), but you'd like to keep playing tennis with him, just tell him that he should cut the crap and not talk like this in front of you.

Sally Struthers
Feb 4th, 2011, 04:00 PM
You can't change people. I don't see what the problem is really. As long as he is nice to you, does it really matter what he thinks? Most of it is probably a joke anyway :shrug:

You can either put up with his shit or move on.

Personally, if he were a good partner and we were winning, I'd keep him and just ignore what he says. If you're losing, dump his ass.

Haimar
Feb 4th, 2011, 05:19 PM
I have a guy in my class who also believes women are only good for cooking and procreation, you can imagine he's not really popular in a class with 90% women. He also doesn't like gay and coloured people and warns me everytime I come close that he will hit me if I touch him. I think it's funny that someone with this kind of education can be that stupid :lol::help:

Crazy Canuck
Feb 4th, 2011, 08:32 PM
On the bright side, isn't it great when people with those opinions are open about them? It saves you the trouble of getting to know them before learning that you just wasted months befriending the biggest sexist/racist/bigot/whatever you've ever encountered.

Haimar
Feb 4th, 2011, 10:47 PM
On the bright side, isn't it great when people with those opinions are open about them? It saves you the trouble of getting to know them before learning that you just wasted months befriending the biggest sexist/racist/bigot/whatever you've ever encountered.

Yeah I actually like talking to him, it's always really funny and I guess it helps to realise that people have the right to have their own opinion, even if yours is totally the opposite.

Ferg
Feb 4th, 2011, 10:51 PM
A guy I know is like that so two of my friends hug and kiss him every chance they get.

Yasmine
Feb 4th, 2011, 11:08 PM
^He was looking for someone to play with and contacted me.

I honestly don't even know how to explain it to him when he is going to say absolutely :weirdo: stuff like that line about God or "that is how it supposed to be". Honestly, my jaw just drops when I hear stupidity like that.

I think he also listens to a lot of music with "bitches" and "hoes" for lyrics.

And, yeah, Sally, you might be on to something...
That's the problem. At that point you're so shocked to hear what they're saying you don't even react... then regret you didn't :tape:

On the other hand it depends how much you let that opinion get onto your tennis partnership. I know I just couldn't bear it it would just inhibit anything I'ld share with anyone like that (yes some women do have those opinions as well:o), but everyone's level of tolerance is different;)