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Sgt.Timmykinz
Jan 28th, 2011, 02:48 PM
Sorry this is a rant thread but I need to let off some steam!

I've been working my arse off for the last five months for this company for nothing, I've been interning there hoping it would result in a job, but instead they've screwed me over. I keep getting told I'm doing a great job, if they could pay me they would, they'll keep me in mind if something comes up. The only reason I satyed so long was because I knew one of the girls there was going to leave as she had another job in the pipeline, turns out today after she announced her departure they already had someone lined up as they were going to sack her anyway.

I'm like what the hell? I've spent the last few months learning this girl's job inside out in the hope I'd at least be considered for it. I didn't expect them to just hand it to me, but I thought there would at least be an interview process, or that I'd be at least considered for it, but apparently I've been eating sphincter for nothing! And the new person has no experiance in this kind of job, but instead is the partner of one of the major clients.

They think I'm here for at least another month, like hell I am, I'm gonna email the boss to say I'm leaving tonight and then I'm getting wrecked, I don't care anymore. I'm gonna drink myself silly until wednesday next week.

And to think I was spending almost 300 a month on transport to work for these fuckers, I'm such a mug. Maybe I wasn't good enough for the job, but they could have at least told me, in appraisals I always asked for criticisms and they'd always say there were none, and I would be perfect for the company if they could afford to employ another member to staff.

Rant over, please feel free to add your own rant about your sucky life, we can all mope around together!

pancake
Jan 28th, 2011, 03:54 PM
Oh, shit happens, really. Did you ask them why they didn't consider you, btw? Maybe you'd like to ask the boss why you were passed over for a promotion(?) and give him/her a chance to tell you his/her reasons, if s/he keeps bs-ing then you really should quit.

I had a rather unpleasant working experience before, not as bad as yours, tho. I worked overtime almost every day and even it's a 5-day week work, I got calls from different clients on weekends, but it was okay, they didn't bother me much. Sometimes I had to work until 4,5 o'clock in the morning and I didn't complain (to my boss) because I knew I was gaining experience and I was lucky to have a job anyway. BUT, the vice president was such a bitch. She was new to the company just like me, and one day I sent her an email for approval (everytime I sent something to my clients I needed her double-checking for me) and she NEVER replied to it even though I reminded her like 3 times. And the boss realized I didn't send the stuff to my clients on time and other memebers of staff told him it was the VP's fault (no one liked her), and the VP thought it was my fault and told others I had to be fired. I quit at the end because she tried so hard to get rid of me and treated me unfairly. Guess what, she was fired a month after I quit. Karma is a bitch and I am sure that bitch will come to your boss soon if s/he does treat you so unfairly.

Kart
Jan 28th, 2011, 05:25 PM
People do suck, I agree.

Don't get mad, get even.

Sgt.Timmykinz
Jan 28th, 2011, 05:56 PM
Now I've had some time to mull it over I'm still pissed at them but I'll get over it, I'm not as mad as I was earlier (I'm still getting wasted, I've got 5 minutes until I'm outta here for good).

I told them I have to go, I can't do anymore time there, I've already wasted too much of my life and too much money, I'm not going to waste any more time. To hell with them.

Direwolf
Jan 28th, 2011, 06:43 PM
Sorry this is a rant thread but I need to let off some steam!

I've been working my arse off for the last five months for this company for nothing, I've been interning there hoping it would result in a job, but instead they've screwed me over. I keep getting told I'm doing a great job, if they could pay me they would, they'll keep me in mind if something comes up. The only reason I satyed so long was because I knew one of the girls there was going to leave as she had another job in the pipeline, turns out today after she announced her departure they already had someone lined up as they were going to sack her anyway.

I'm like what the hell? I've spent the last few months learning this girl's job inside out in the hope I'd at least be considered for it. I didn't expect them to just hand it to me, but I thought there would at least be an interview process, or that I'd be at least considered for it, but apparently I've been eating sphincter for nothing! And the new person has no experiance in this kind of job, but instead is the partner of one of the major clients.

They think I'm here for at least another month, like hell I am, I'm gonna email the boss to say I'm leaving tonight and then I'm getting wrecked, I don't care anymore. I'm gonna drink myself silly until wednesday next week.

And to think I was spending almost 300 a month on transport to work for these fuckers, I'm such a mug. Maybe I wasn't good enough for the job, but they could have at least told me, in appraisals I always asked for criticisms and they'd always say there were none, and I would be perfect for the company if they could afford to employ another member to staff.

Rant over, please feel free to add your own rant about your sucky life, we can all mope around together!

You are part of the "People" are you not?

you must have done something that sucked then.

Direwolf
Jan 28th, 2011, 06:44 PM
Now I've had some time to mull it over I'm still pissed at them but I'll get over it, I'm not as mad as I was earlier (I'm still getting wasted, I've got 5 minutes until I'm outta here for good).

I told them I have to go, I can't do anymore time there, I've already wasted too much of my life and too much money, I'm not going to waste any more time. To hell with them.

You can always work there part-time. for 2 hours, looks good on the resume if you stayed in a "job" for a long time.

by then you will have known the company inside out,...
then you get to do your revenge and burn the company to ashes.

LoveFifteen
Jan 28th, 2011, 10:24 PM
Don't quit dramatically. Burning bridges always backfires and you won't be able to use this experience as a reference. Part of being professional is not doing what you're planning to do. It'll feel great tonight, but then you're gonna spend the next seven years having to bullshit your way around why you have a 6 month gap in your resume.

Don't do it.

meyerpl
Jan 29th, 2011, 04:06 AM
Bullshit. Go to work drunk and give them a piece of your mind. You can't go wrong!

BlueTrees
Jan 29th, 2011, 03:39 PM
I know exactly how you feel. I work in a supermarket casually while I study at uni and my boss is a complete bitch. During the holidays she calls me up just about every second day and asks me to work extra hours and I say yes just about every time just because I went to get on her "good side" and then one freaking day I asked for a day off which I was rostered on for (I told her like a week in advance) and she got really nasty about it and said how I'm not allowed to take holidays during Christmas time. I felt like quitting but I'm still working there..yeah, I hate my stupid job.

Mashabator
Jan 29th, 2011, 04:18 PM
I know exactly how you feel. I work in a supermarket casually while I study at uni and my boss is a complete bitch. During the holidays she calls me up just about every second day and asks me to work extra hours and I say yes just about every time just because I went to get on her "good side" and then one freaking day I asked for a day off which I was rostered on for (I told her like a week in advance) and she got really nasty about it and said how I'm not allowed to take holidays during Christmas time. I felt like quitting but I'm still working there..yeah, I hate my stupid job.
Wow thats really bad! :hug:
And OP im sorry this has happened to you, its really rude of them to do that to you :(

Tripp
Jan 29th, 2011, 07:17 PM
Maybe she had seniority and they were looking for someone with a little bit more experience? :shrug: Don't sweat it, I'm pretty sure they thought about you and didn't hire you for a reason.

Maybe you could actually ask the reason they didn't hire you?

Timariot
Jan 29th, 2011, 08:44 PM
Don't quit dramatically. Burning bridges always backfires and you won't be able to use this experience as a reference. Part of being professional is not doing what you're planning to do. It'll feel great tonight, but then you're gonna spend the next seven years having to bullshit your way around why you have a 6 month gap in your resume.

Don't do it.

Disagree. Just tell them to shove it. Interns are slave labour, and screwing them over is part of how companies turn profit.

Sgt.Timmykinz
Jan 29th, 2011, 09:46 PM
You are part of the "People" are you not?

you must have done something that sucked then.

I might have done, I may have been seen to be totally unsuitable for the job, but could they have not told me? Could they not have explained to me why I wasn't being considered for the job? I feel they have been totally underhanded in giving someone else the job without even talking to me.

Maybe she had seniority and they were looking for someone with a little bit more experience? :shrug: Don't sweat it, I'm pretty sure they thought about you and didn't hire you for a reason.

Maybe you could actually ask the reason they didn't hire you?

I'm torn between asking them or just leaving it. I haven't even been offically told about the job so I don't think its my place to even mention it.

Disagree. Just tell them to shove it. Interns are slave labour, and screwing them over is part of how companies turn profit.

That's exactly how it is, I've lost money working for them and it feels like I've been given nothing in return. I'm going to ask for my reference this week and I'm going, I've given them too much and I don't think they have any desire to give me a job so I've got to get on with my life and move on.

Crazy Canuck
Jan 29th, 2011, 09:50 PM
Don't quit dramatically. Burning bridges always backfires and you won't be able to use this experience as a reference. Part of being professional is not doing what you're planning to do. It'll feel great tonight, but then you're gonna spend the next seven years having to bullshit your way around why you have a 6 month gap in your resume.

Don't do it.
This is correct. Never burn bridges professionally. The people that you are pissed with one day may still be able to help you get a job elsewhere some other day. At the very least, don't let them be the reason that you don't.

Crazy Canuck
Jan 29th, 2011, 09:51 PM
Disagree. Just tell them to shove it. Interns are slave labour, and screwing them over is part of how companies turn profit.
Spoken like a person who thinks unemployment is awesome. Which it is. If you have a trust fund.

Only burn bridges in the work force if you've got the fuck you money to know you'll never need those people again ;)

Timariot
Jan 30th, 2011, 02:11 AM
Spoken like a person who thinks unemployment is awesome. Which it is. If you have a trust fund.

Only burn bridges in the work force if you've got the fuck you money to know you'll never need those people again ;)

It's people who think like you why the companies can screw the interns over and over again...

Crazy Canuck
Jan 30th, 2011, 07:02 AM
It's true. That is totally what I said.

Mistress of Evil
Jan 30th, 2011, 07:06 AM
did not read the OP :tape:
But yeah, people sucks, life sucks but get over it sister. :bigwave:
You either get screwed, or you screwed others. :yeah:

Crazy Canuck
Jan 30th, 2011, 09:03 AM
The above advice should also be ignored. It was clearly written by a likely well meaning, but grossly incorrect and prematurely jaded 14 year old.

LoveFifteen
Jan 30th, 2011, 09:43 AM
It's people who think like you why the companies can screw the interns over and over again...

Internships are not slave labor. They are a chance to learn and gain some experience. The OP probably doesn't have enough experience to be consodered for the position.

We have a few interns every season who are in their last semester of law school. They have no work experience as attorneys. They might do a great job and make a good impression, but they aren't going to be offered jobs as attorneys when there are hundreds of candidates with several years of work experience.

You have to pay your dues and work your way up. That's life. I would die laughing if an intern came in one day and told us all to go to hell because we didn't hand them a job. It's clear the OP doesn't have enough maturity or professional experience if s/he is still in the stage of life when s/he considers him/herself an exploited and abused intern entitled to a job.

Whitehead's Boy
Jan 30th, 2011, 09:48 AM
Quite frankly I don't see what the problem is. The point of an intership is to get a work experience in your resume and a reference. It is not in a hope to get a job after (it might happen, but it's just not the purpose). They have no obligation whatsoever to consider you.

To quit on short notice in unprofesional, and it does show that they were right to not consider you. You are immature, impulsive and unprofessional; no company wants to hire that kind of person.

You don't even seem aware that references are worth GOLD. When applying for your next job, if you don't have a reference from your internship, then it's going to raise a red flag. You really should think more about what you're planning of doing.

debby
Jan 30th, 2011, 02:28 PM
How to get a job if you lack of experience ?

Timariot
Jan 30th, 2011, 07:51 PM
We have a few interns every season who are in their last semester of law school. They have no work experience as attorneys. They might do a great job and make a good impression, but they aren't going to be offered jobs as attorneys when there are hundreds of candidates with several years of work experience.

You have to pay your dues and work your way up. That's life. I would die laughing if an intern came in one day and told us all to go to hell because we didn't hand them a job. It's clear the OP doesn't have enough maturity or professional experience if s/he is still in the stage of life when s/he considers him/herself an exploited and abused intern entitled to a job.

The problem is that companies these days loathe the idea of hiring someone full-time. It is better to keep people on various types of temporary contracts, so that they don't have to pay them as much, and it's easier to get rid of them. I saw this, and I was screwed over, when I worked on construction, and I'm never going back. Those companies can go fuck themselves. The best part is, of course, how the VERY SAME companies moan about labour shortage. Gee, whadda surprise :rolleyes:

LoveFifteen
Jan 30th, 2011, 10:14 PM
The problem is that companies these days loathe the idea of hiring someone full-time. It is better to keep people on various types of temporary contracts, so that they don't have to pay them as much, and it's easier to get rid of them. I saw this, and I was screwed over, when I worked on construction, and I'm never going back. Those companies can go fuck themselves. The best part is, of course, how the VERY SAME companies moan about labour shortage. Gee, whadda surprise :rolleyes:

Things are hard these days for a lot of people, but it is never, ever a good idea to have some dramatic moment at work where you quit and tell everyone to get bent. It always backfires, it's extremely unprofessional, it burns bridges, and it will hurt only one person: you. It can be challenging to omit jobs and internships from your resume. Sometimes it's not possible if they do a background check. A reference is helpful. If the OP really has been a great intern, then s/he is going to get a great recommendation, which will help in future job hunts.

Life ain't easy, and I am thankful for my good fortune to have a good full-time job. I've been in miserable jobs before and wanted to quit in a blaze of glory, but in the end, I was only able to get the fantastic job that I have today by relying on the good references of those jobs that I deeply loathed. Toughing it out is a quality all employers want in their potential hires.

RagingBull99
Jan 31st, 2011, 12:09 AM
The whole concept of internships is quite insane.
When you're a student you have to do them to "build" a resume.
After you graduate, you can't find a job because all the work is done by interns.

This artifically increases the number of people who want to work and increases unemployment.

An intern is destroying a paid position to increase her/his chance to get a paid position. Insane, isn't it?

It's unfair and stupid, but as many posters said: Burning bridges is not a good idea. Go somewhere else as soon as possible.

Ryan
Jan 31st, 2011, 12:29 AM
I like CC's advice here - never burn bridges unless you've got it MADE in SPADES. You'll never know if/when you'll meet them again or need them; you can be as pissed as you want, but letting them know is a very short term cathartic bonus, and a long term mistake.

I wont go into whether you were/werent screwed by them, I dont think any of us know enough about the situation to judge. But if you do want to quit, put in your notice. I'd suggest bringing up the job and asking if you were considered for it, and if not, why. There's nothing wrong with asking that question, just be prepared for them to say you aren't qualified/experienced enough for it.

Wigglytuff
Jan 31st, 2011, 12:39 AM
You have to pay your dues and work your way up. That's life.

not always true. SOME PEOPLE have to work their way up. but its not the same for everyone. this is just what i call a "classic lie. something that rings true and gets told over and over as if it is but in really it is only true some of the time for some of the people.

but at the end of the day i agree in so far as, if the OP is not well connected or otherwise able to skip that "work your way up" step and it matters to them they should not quit. if however you want to live your life as a "wild parrots of telegraph hill" kind of guy, than the sooner you leave the happier you will be. but dont be impulsive.

it is possible to quit a job you hate and STILL be able to get references. even if you will be living in the woods hunting and gathering you should never burn bridges.

i know lots of people and only some worked their way up. some got connected others saw something and took it, others just stop trying to live the grind and are happier for it. i personally stopped trying to live the grind. and i feel like one of the happiest and luckiest people ever.

meyerpl
Jan 31st, 2011, 02:41 AM
The whole concept of internships is quite insane.
When you're a student you have to do them to "build" a resume.
After you graduate, you can't find a job because all the work is done by interns.

This artifically increases the number of people who want to work and increases unemployment.

An intern is destroying a paid position to increase her/his chance to get a paid position. Insane, isn't it?

It's unfair and stupid, but as many posters said: Burning bridges is not a good idea. Go somewhere else as soon as possible. It's wise to deal with things as they really are, not as we think they ought to be.

Timariot
Jan 31st, 2011, 01:53 PM
Things are hard these days for a lot of people, but it is never, ever a good idea to have some dramatic moment at work where you quit and tell everyone to get bent. It always backfires, it's extremely unprofessional, it burns bridges, and it will hurt only one person: you. It can be challenging to omit jobs and internships from your resume. Sometimes it's not possible if they do a background check. A reference is helpful. If the OP really has been a great intern, then s/he is going to get a great recommendation, which will help in future job hunts.


Burning bridges is regrettable only if you intent to return to other side of the river. Only thing I regret about my stint in the contruction work is that I DIDN'T make a scene when I left. There were one or two people in high places who needed to be told to GFY. (My friend actually did screw his company back when he quit the cleaning business. Ho, ho). Of course, I never meant to make construction as my lifetime career, so it was easy for me to quit. There is no way I would ever return to construction work, I'd rather collect social security at -40% penalty than that. I'm happy in my current work (though it's only on temporary contract again....sigh). But if I did encounter similar BS like at my previous job, I wouldn't be quiet about it.

That said, I think the advice about not acting on first impulse is a good one. How serious was the slight actually and who is responsible from it? Standing up for yourself is commendable, but don't be a primadonna.

LUVMIRZA
Jan 31st, 2011, 07:13 PM
You'll be angry & feel cheated now...but dont do things when ur angry...you cant think clearly now. Wait for 2 or 3 days then make ur move..u might not know, they might be planning something for u(jus hoping). Dont do anything now which'll make you regret in the future.

Kirt12255
Feb 1st, 2011, 09:32 PM
Don't quit dramatically. Burning bridges always backfires and you won't be able to use this experience as a reference. Part of being professional is not doing what you're planning to do. It'll feel great tonight, but then you're gonna spend the next seven years having to bullshit your way around why you have a 6 month gap in your resume.

Don't do it.
;):worship: Best advice I have seen on this board for a while. Why throw away all of that work on a drunk-whim? Yes I know the situation is crap and have been there before. After 10 years of working for a company and being promised the world, they delivered nothing. I left, however did it the right way and thanked them for the time of my employment. I went back for a short time when I needed money on a casual basis, this would not have been possible if I had burnt the bridges, as yes, I needed to walk back over it and go back there.
I guess having seen how they operate and treat someone like youreself, perhaps even allowing for your work load on a regular roster, would you want to spend more time with them? Put the coathanger in the mouth, thank them and move on ;) Sorry to hear it has upset you though.