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new-york
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:21 PM
Demented's retirement still leaves me puzzled.
All these years she fought to get a slam, the number one rank, i DON'T get why she retired suddenly at the YEC last year when the tour is wide open.

Baby plans?

She is not even really turning the tennis page, it must be tough to stick around and watch girls she was perfectly capable of beating rule the tour.

I just don't get it. :shrug:

cellophane
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:25 PM
She was sick of losing to Wozniacki :o

Pebbles
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:27 PM
She always said that she wouldn't play up to 30, so she stuck to her word. I agree, though. I still think she could've played on another year. But saying that something was off in her game last year, she lost a lot of shot penetration and foot speed and it was a struggle to watch her play like that during the last couple months.

dusan993
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:29 PM
Well, she definetly had her reasons that she only knows. But I miss her too :)

Sammo
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:30 PM
She should have retired at the Olympics

justineheninfan
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:39 PM
Demented's retirement still leaves me puzzled.
All these years she fought to get a slam, the number one rank, i DON'T get why she retired suddenly at the YEC last year when the tour is wide open.

Baby plans?

She is not even really turning the tennis page, it must be tough to stick around and watch girls she was perfectly capable of beating rule the tour.

I just don't get it. :shrug:


The tour has been wide open for 3 years now and she still hadnt reached #1 or made it back to another slam final. Why would that suddenly change now as she nears 30.

Even with the tour wide open it doesnt mean she would win a big title. Clijsters owns her and would beat her in any big match they played. Serena too would beat her always in a big slam match. Then there are others like Zvonareva, Wozniacki, Venus, Henin, Kuznetsova, Stosur, Schiavone, Jankovic, Li Na, who are all big challenges for her to get past too. Her surviving 7 rounds to win a slam while not impossible was never likely at this point.

Onjanae.
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:47 PM
I get where you're coming from, but I'm not convinced Elena would have won a slam even with things as they stand. Maybe she could have, and maybe if we're reading about someone like Azarenka (who I think it totally overrated around here) winning a slam soon she might regret it, but I don't think hanging around on the tour any longer would have yeilded her the elusive slam.

I do miss her though.

*edit* Maybe if Elena of 2004-2007ish was on tour, really hungry and happy to grind to the bitter end was around she could have won, but I think Elena's desire was just about extinguished. I think that's why she stopped, and with that in mind, hanging around any longer wouldn't have yeilded better than what was her order of the day.

jimbo mack
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:50 PM
she had a long career, in the top 20 for over ten years..it was fine for her to retire

Smitten
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:53 PM
Dementieva still wouldn't have won this slam so I don't see the issue here.

Lord Choc Ice
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:06 PM
Dementieva still wouldn't have won this slam so I don't see the issue here.

Sadly this.

goldenlox
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:08 PM
I still cant believe she's going after having 4 match points at the USO, not playing Wimbledon, and retiring in the FO semis
I was very surprised that Friday during the YEC.

ce
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:20 PM
She should have played one more year :sad:

Beat
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:25 PM
She should have retired at the Olympics

maybe better after the olympics?

justineheninfan
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:00 PM
I still cant believe she's going after having 4 match points at the USO, not playing Wimbledon, and retiring in the FO semis
I was very surprised that Friday during the YEC.

She had 4 match points in the round of 16 at the U.S Open though. It is not like she was anywhere near winning the title at that point.

Viktymise
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:11 PM
I still cant believe she's going after having 4 match points at the USO, not playing Wimbledon, and retiring in the FO semis
I was very surprised that Friday during the YEC.

In some ways I feel as though that's the only way she could have bowed out - with a string of crushing disappointments. It was completely fitting considering her career path, somewhat poetic, trgically of course, and ultimately plain sad. But c'est la vie.

cn ireland
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:13 PM
I agree OP:sad:

Annie.
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:14 PM
Dementieva still wouldn't have won this slam so I don't see the issue here.

This right here.

miffedmax
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:24 PM
I thought she had another year or two, but it's all pointless speculation at this point.

The thing is that some year had to be her last year, and she admitted that there were times last year when knowing this was her last chance to do some things created added pressure that affected her game. So much as I hate to say it, if this was her last year she might have felt those same pressures and not been able to take advantage of some opportunities. Then again, there are some major holes in this draw, and some players she's fully capable of beating still playing. But we'll never know.

itzhak
Jan 26th, 2011, 12:23 AM
There is nothing between her results last year and her desicion to retire, she decided to retire even before the season has started.

Her desicion is not result of her "tennis experience" but her general view about life- She view her career as big chapter of her life but only as one chapter of her life and at one point you have to go to your next chapter. This is not about her results or tennis but about general view, thus all the discussion is irrelevant...

Beny
Jan 26th, 2011, 01:28 AM
I still cant believe she's going after having 4 match points at the USO, not playing Wimbledon, and retiring in the FO semis
I was very surprised that Friday during the YEC.

Itīs all that plus the Olympics. Come on, two more years and Olympics on grass at Wimbledon when she was one point away from beating the ....... Serena Williams.

The strangest thing for me is the US Open round 16. That was the first match of 2010 when I said to myself: ''Geez this is incredible level from her, Im so glad she plays like this. She definitely has a chance to win a slam playing like this.''

Stosur played shitty the next round compared to this match.

I thought that match would assure her she should go on palying. Very weird.

Beny
Jan 26th, 2011, 01:30 AM
Dementieva still wouldn't have won this slam so I don't see the issue here.

You know..

Who knows what would have happened. No one

If I say she would win and you say she wouldnīt, itīs the same. We will never know but you can not say im wrong or I can not say you are right...

Brena
Jan 26th, 2011, 01:35 AM
Seriously, I don't understand it either, but then again, I never understood her, so retiring when she was playing well while the rest of the tour lay in ruins was a very Dementievaesque thing to do. :shrug::weirdo::suicide:

Hardiansf
Jan 26th, 2011, 01:53 AM
The tour has been wide open for 3 years now and she still hadnt reached #1 or made it back to another slam final. Why would that suddenly change now as she nears 30.

Even with the tour wide open it doesnt mean she would win a big title. Clijsters owns her and would beat her in any big match they played. Serena too would beat her always in a big slam match. Then there are others like Zvonareva, Wozniacki, Venus, Henin, Kuznetsova, Stosur, Schiavone, Jankovic, Li Na, who are all big challenges for her to get past too. Her surviving 7 rounds to win a slam while not impossible was never likely at this point.
:clap2::yeah:

Serenita
Jan 26th, 2011, 02:23 AM
Wouldn't matter would have choked against some unknown.

hablo
Jan 26th, 2011, 02:29 AM
Maybe seeing some of her contemporaries hanging up their rackets influenced her. ;)

goldenlox
Jan 26th, 2011, 02:29 AM
''Geez this is incredible level from her, Im so glad she plays like this. She definitely has a chance to win a slam playing like this.''
...I thought so also. She is as least as good as Vera, very close matches with Caro. Lena is right there with these players. She's healthy, fit. She deserved another chance at the FO & Wimbledon.

duhcity
Jan 26th, 2011, 03:05 AM
She could've been a contender, but she wouldn't have won a slam. The tour is less wide open now than it was a year or two ago.

RenaSlam.
Jan 26th, 2011, 03:11 AM
She would have won the AO.

Smitten
Jan 26th, 2011, 03:27 AM
You know..

Who knows what would have happened. No one

If I say she would win and you say she wouldnīt, itīs the same. We will never know but you can not say im wrong or I can not say you are right...

Yes and all we have to go on is her numerous other failures in slams without a single victory.

Roookie
Jan 26th, 2011, 05:00 AM
She was sick of losing to Wozniacki :o

:lol:

kman
Jan 26th, 2011, 05:05 AM
She could've been a contender, but she wouldn't have won a slam. The tour is less wide open now than it was a year or two ago.

I'd say her chances were better than Schiavone's. And Schiavone won a slam. Don't tell me you saw that one coming.

Zhao
Jan 26th, 2011, 06:00 AM
its all a conspiracy... she is doing a Clijsters-kind of retirement... i will bet vcash $1 million she will make a comeback after Kim..Venus...Juju retires...likely after London Olympics 2012 :devil::devil:

Temperenka
Jan 26th, 2011, 06:23 AM
There is life beyond tennis. She was ready for it.

She probably knew that she had a good couple of years left in her, but why stay? I don't think she was enjoying her life on tour nearly as much, she may be eager to start a family, and she is now able to spend time being a normal person with her family and friends.

She's made enough money to be more than ok, which makes her retirement more than legitimate.

Maca.Lofish
Jan 26th, 2011, 07:25 AM
I love Elena, I cried many days after she announced her retirement and i'm going to miss her so much but I think I agree with her decision. Since she was a little girl she sacrificed alot for tennis, she sacrificed her studies, her family, her friends and great part of her childhood and youth.

Elena is and always be one of the best of this sport because she worked so hard to get it. Elena is one of a few players that almost did not fight with injuries along her career and that have a good side and a bad side, the good side is easy to feel but the bad side is No REST, NO tranquility.

Elena has not rested since she began with tennis (we all know how many years).

Lena is almost 30 years old, she had a successful career, she have a family that supports her, she have the best fans of the world and a boyfriend that loves her. What does she not have? children.

Probably some of you here do not know it but for the women the part of the children is very important 'cause we, unlike the men, We have a period in which we cannot have childrens anymore (40 years old).

Think about it, Elena has practically 30 years old, if she manages to have a son now, when this child has 20 years old Lena is going to have 50, Imagine if Elena had waited more for it, the difference would be still major. And as a woman I say to you that no atleast one mother wants to have children late.
Also Lena is in love, She deserves to enjoy the time with her boyfriend before to have kids.

Guys if you don't know how is like to be Lena or how is her life, better don't speak, I can bet that the most of you sees your boyfriend or girlfriend always (Elena don't), you are the whole day in your houses with your families (Elena don't), you can go out with your friends whenever you want (Elena don't), when you stop working you go to your house to rest (Elena don't) should I continue? I hope that this help you to know how lucky you guys are and do not continue questioning Elena's decision because we are not the only people who feel bad for her retirement, i'm sure Lena also feels a bit bad for it.

She gave us so many happy momments...

Maybe Lena will comeback someday, who knows or maybe in a few years we'll see a Little Lena 2.0 winning a Grand Slam with a very proud mother clapping in the stands


thanks for your time :p

Mistress of Evil
Jan 26th, 2011, 11:20 AM
In some ways I feel as though that's the only way she could have bowed out - with a string of crushing disappointments. It was completely fitting considering her career path, somewhat poetic, trgically of course, and ultimately plain sad. But c'est la vie.

:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

itzhak
Jan 26th, 2011, 12:02 PM
God help people who think that her career was tragic...

Slutati
Jan 26th, 2011, 12:04 PM
It was time. Her heart wasn't in it anymore, you could tell from some of the matches. Hope her daughter Tatiana Afinogenova can win a slam in 2030 :hearts:

BlameSerena
Jan 26th, 2011, 12:04 PM
She'll be back.

Pebbles
Jan 27th, 2011, 06:08 PM
Lena playing a charity match in Moscow :awww:

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Direwolf
Jan 27th, 2011, 06:13 PM
Seriously Ive been thinking ov the same thing!!

Serenita
Jan 27th, 2011, 06:38 PM
its all a conspiracy... she is doing a Clijsters-kind of retirement... i will bet vcash $1 million she will make a comeback after Kim..Venus...Juju retires...likely after London Olympics 2012 :devil::devil:

Sure, but will still get trashed by Woz.

Slutati
Jan 27th, 2011, 07:04 PM
OMG those pics. :sobbing::sobbing::sobbing:

YONEX! OMG I miss Yonex!

Pebbles
Jan 27th, 2011, 07:05 PM
Sure, but will still get trashed by Woz.
If the thrashings followed pattern then Lena would be due to hand one out on returning. I still look everywhere for the 2 & 1 Cinci beatdown in 2009 :sad:

Maca.Lofish
Jan 27th, 2011, 07:09 PM
She looks so god damn pretty, I love the new Yonex shoes...... God I miss her sooo much

miffedmax
Jan 27th, 2011, 07:26 PM
:hearts: Even bangless, my dream girl.

LCS
Jan 27th, 2011, 10:39 PM
This is not right...you look at those pics and you can only think: go down under and beat Kim and Li for the title :( it's just wrong :sobbing:

miffedmax
Jan 27th, 2011, 10:41 PM
That's not the only thing I can think of...but it would be a race to see who would slap me first and hardest among Lena, Maxim* and Mommy Vera.

*punch, in his case.

LCS
Jan 27th, 2011, 10:43 PM
That's not the only thing I can think of...but it would be a race to see who would slap me first and hardest among Lena, Maxim* and Mommy Vera.

*punch, in his case.

Mommy Vera's slap >> Maxim's punch :scared:

miffedmax
Jan 27th, 2011, 10:51 PM
Either would be bad...

goldenlox
Jan 27th, 2011, 10:54 PM
The 1st step was a charity exhibition.
Next would be if Lena shows up during Fed Cup practices. Likhovtseva will be there, Myskina, Sveta, Dinara.
Does Lena come to hang out at a practice?
Eventually she decides she still wants to play.

Bingain
Jan 27th, 2011, 11:16 PM
The 1st step was a charity exhibition.
Next would be if Lena shows up during Fed Cup practices. Likhovtseva will be there, Myskina, Sveta, Dinara.
Does Lena come to hang out at a practice?
Eventually she decides she still wants to play.

She needs to get knocked up first.

Which 2nd career path do you think Lena would prefer? That of Kimothy or Henin?

crazillo
Jan 27th, 2011, 11:19 PM
When will people accept that a player retires for herself, and also competes for herself? The decision to retire is not always nice for us fans, but might feel necessary in the eyes of the pro. I don't think she would have weighed her chances on the current tour with open draws and stuff and decide upon retirement on that. - Why not have a player retiring when she is still playing quite well? I personally wasn't happy about Lena's move but I think the decision will prove to be a smooth one.

Maca.Lofish
Jan 27th, 2011, 11:44 PM
don't be selfish with our Lena, you know i was very bad when she retires but now i see that she is happy and that's the most important, I love her and as her fan I want the best for her.

today she was so happy so if she doesn't comeback its ok.

Love you Lena :)

justineheninfan
Jan 28th, 2011, 12:11 AM
Elena's last real shot of winning a slam was the French last year and it was so unfortunate she got injured in the semis. She doesnt have a shot of winning a slam if someone like Clijsters is the champion since she cant beat someone like that in a big match. So even as open as the womens game might seem now she really wouldnt have a good shot. There are 10-12 others who have a decent shot to beat her on a given day too.

goldenlox
Jan 28th, 2011, 12:14 AM
I think 2 or 3 years from now it might be easier to win a slam.
But it doesnt matter. Lena left the sport healthy & wealthy and is the current Olympic Gold medal champion in tennis singles.
So its all good.