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Caipirinha Guy
Jan 25th, 2011, 07:45 AM
Power in tennis is not essential if you're fast on court. You don't have to hit the ball unearthly strong to win a match. It suffices that you run to them all and hit back that your opponent loses a rally. This is Radwanska's and Wozniacki's style. Today it's definitely better tactics in women's tennis than a pure power. Look at Safina - so what that she can hit ball strong, if besides that she hasn't got much to offer. Her tennis is one-dimensional. Diversity pays - says Mats Wilander in the interview for sport.pl.

http://www.sport.pl/tenis/1,103960,8999204,Mats_Wilander_dla_Sport_pl__Jesli _Clijsters_troche.html

Potato
Jan 25th, 2011, 07:56 AM
Wozniacki's game is not one dimensional? :help: Her game is to get the ball back over the net. Don't get me started on that 2-handed slice..

Almost all the WTA have one-dimensional games; the only players with a real diverse game are Franny, Henin, and probably a few others.

Pops Maellard
Jan 25th, 2011, 08:53 AM
Safina > Wozniacki and especially Radwanska.

Wilander's just jumping on the bandwagon.

Njalle
Jan 25th, 2011, 08:59 AM
Wozniacki's game is not one dimensional? :help: Her game is to get the ball back over the net. Don't get me started on that 2-handed slice..

Almost all the WTA have one-dimensional games; the only players with a real diverse game are Franny, Henin, and probably a few others.

Tell me, what is tennis about then?

duhcity
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:09 AM
Wozniacki's game is not one dimensional? :help: Her game is to get the ball back over the net. Don't get me started on that 2-handed slice..

Almost all the WTA have one-dimensional games; the only players with a real diverse game are Franny, Henin, and probably a few others.

Well Safina is one-dimensional in the most literal sense of the word. For a period, there was only one dimension in her game, and it was plan A, plan B, and plan C

Potato
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:15 AM
Tell me, what is tennis about then?

If tennis was just getting a ball over the net, you and I both know that no one would be watching it.

Caroline was doing much more than just getting a ball over the net at the end of last season, we both know that. :shrug: But to say that Safina is one-dimensional and Caroline is not.. simply is a strange statement.

What Caroline has over Safina is her mental fortitude, and that's why she has success right now.

Well Safina is one-dimensional in the most literal sense of the word. For a period, there was only one dimension in her game, and it was plan A, plan B, and plan C

Sounds like most of the tour right now :shrug: Plan A is usually bash the ball as hard as you can, plan B is to start pushing, or bash harder. :shrug:

Njalle
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:31 AM
If tennis was just getting a ball over the net, you and I both know that no one would be watching it.

Caroline was doing much more than just getting a ball over the net at the end of last season, we both know that. :shrug: But to say that Safina is one-dimensional and Caroline is not.. simply is a strange statement.

What Caroline has over Safina is her mental fortitude, and that's why she has success right now.

You can't blame a player for trying to get the ball over the net. Otherwise you won't win any matches. It is all about how you get the ball over the net. :wavey:

Keegan
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:33 AM
Wilander hates everyone though, so lets just be surprised he complimented someone.

Sp!ffy
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:43 AM
Why is he bagging on Safina? She doesn't even have a game anymore.

Potato
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:45 AM
You can't blame a player for trying to get the ball over the net. Otherwise you won't win any matches. It is all about how you get the ball over the net. :wavey:

And both Safina and Caroline have only one way of getting the ball over the net - Safina extremely flat and heavy, and Wozniacki hitting it with heavy topspin. Wilander just likes to make stupid statements, like saying Warinka has the best 1-handed backhand :shrug:

goldenlox
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:54 AM
From the same fucker who says Fed has no balls.

KBlade
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:01 AM
Why is he bagging on Safina? She doesn't even have a game anymore.

Sad but true. Wozniacki's game is also pretty damn one dimensional. When her opponents fail to hand her matches on a silver platter due to monstrous amounts of unforced errors, and are hitting the ball well, Wozniacki fails to provide any resistance. She simply continues to run, do more running and spin her groundstrokes halfway up the court only to watch helplessly as they are continuously hammered past her for winners.

Graf~Dokic
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:31 AM
You can't blame a player for trying to get the ball over the net. Otherwise you won't win any matches. It is all about how you get the ball over the net. :wavey:

LOL at all the Wozniacki fans, desperately trying to find excuses for each and everything. :help: There are other players who win matches without being a pusher.

goldenlox
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:34 AM
LOL at all the Wozniacki fans, desperately trying to find excuses for each and everything. :help: There are other players who win matches without being a pusher.This thread is not about Wozniacki. And the 20 year old world #1 doesnt need excuses, the women she plays need them.

Njalle
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:45 AM
LOL at all the Wozniacki fans, desperately trying to find excuses for each and everything. :help: There are other players who win matches without being a pusher.

Then please tell me: How do you win matches without getting the ball over the net?

KBlade
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:53 AM
Then please tell me: How do you win matches without getting the ball over the net?

By your opponent hitting the ball into the net first :lol:

Njalle
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:58 AM
By your opponent hitting the ball into the net first :lol:

Wouldn't that end in a infinte tie-break?

Graf~Dokic
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:16 AM
Then please tell me: How do you win matches without getting the ball over the net?

Of course the main thing is to get the ball over the net, but good players (and I mean the really good players) do that + they hit winners, and not just pushing the ball. ;)

Viktymise
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:20 AM
Wilander is the biggest bullshitter in the game. His predictions are always wack and as people have always said he jumps on whatever bandwagon is hot right now. I think he knows next to nothing about the WTA and bases his opinions on maybe one or two matches he has seen here and there.

oomph
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:27 AM
You can't blame a player for trying to get the ball over the net. Otherwise you won't win any matches. It is all about how you get the ball over the net. :wavey:

God, how dumb can you be.

I mean seriously, are you pretending to be dumb to be funny or do you seriously not see the problem with this statement?

laurie
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:36 AM
I remember an intersting thing I heard on the radio about 5 years ago. I don't remember the comentator but it might have been Sam Smith, the commentator said that they saw Safina's mother training a few players and they asked her why none of her players were going to net to practice volleys? Safina's mother turned to the commentator and said that there is simply no need to do that in the womens game today.

Perosnally I look upon that as bad coaching and it hasn't helped her daughter who can't change her game by getting to net or by bringing new players to the tour with any diversity if coaches such as Safina's mother are taking that view.

I can't think of many young players coming through with any diversity - most of the players who play a more diverse game are veterans, MMJS, Schiavone, Henin etc. Carla Susarez is the only young player I can think of who has a different game.

Potato
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:37 AM
I was on MTF and found some more delusional statements from Wilander

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=116430l]

“He is the greatest player in the world. I have never seen anyone play better than he did”

“It is his 5th grand slam. He hasnt sat in the locker room listening to stories about Federer and Nadal, he is completely unafraid. He doesnt care about who they are”

“Tsonga has better physics, tactics and technique than Federer. Federer has history and that counts. But without history Tsonga is better. I hope he can face Federer to meassure how good he is”

He is a delusional hot mess. Now jumping onto the Wozniacki bandwagon and claiming that her game is diverse, Wozniacki fans aren't even that delusional.

Njalle
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:40 AM
God, how dumb can you be.

I mean seriously, are you pretending to be dumb to be funny or do you seriously not see the problem with this statement?

Are you for real? :haha:

Caralenko
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:01 PM
So.. what the hell does Dinara have to do with Wozniacki's game?

redsonja
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:04 PM
Mats just has it in for Dinara. :p I remember after RG 09 he said something about her so uncomplimentary (don't remember exactly what, though) that Marat came out and said that Mats had dishonoured his family. :lol: :scared:

I'd hoped it would lead to a duel or something, but no such luck.

Sean.
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:05 PM
Wow, way to kick her while she's down A-hole! :rolleyes:

Claycourter
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:06 PM
Add 99% of the tour to Safina and Wilander is 100% spot on.

Pops Maellard
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:08 PM
I remember an intersting thing I heard on the radio about 5 years ago. I don't remember the comentator but it might have been Sam Smith, the commentator said that they saw Safina's mother training a few players and they asked her why none of her players were going to net to practice volleys? Safina's mother turned to the commentator and said that there is simply no need to do that in the womens game today.

Perosnally I look upon that as bad coaching and it hasn't helped her daughter who can't change her game by getting to net or by bringing new players to the tour with any diversity if coaches such as Safina's mother are taking that view.

I can't think of many young players coming through with any diversity - most of the players who play a more diverse game are veterans, MMJS, Schiavone, Henin etc. Carla Susarez is the only young player I can think of who has a different game.

That is so stupid. :rolleyes: Learning volleys, even if you don't come to the net often, at least gives you the option for something else to do in a match.

Sean.
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:10 PM
And both Safina and Caroline have only one way of getting the ball over the net - Safina extremely flat and heavy, and Wozniacki hitting it with heavy topspin.

Sorry, what?

Besides Safina's shots are far from flat. Especially her forhand & serve.

Sean.
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:13 PM
That is so stupid. :rolleyes: Learning volleys, even if you don't come to the net often, at least gives you the option for something else to do in a match.

Rauza coached Anastasia Myskina, Anna Kournikova and Zvonareva (for a short time I think) all of whom can volley. Don't forget Safina is also a doubles Grand Slam champion so is much better at the net than most people give her credit for. :)

C. Drone
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:32 PM
because building up points with your power, forcing others to defend, taking the risk is more one dimensional than standing behind the baseline gutless, pushing the ball back and waiting for your opponents errors?
excuse me, Mats, you did too much coke.

i guess then serve&volley is the ultimate onedimensional game, since the player does nothing just rush the net. :shrug: