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NA-GOAT
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:32 AM
Na was down 0-2 to begin each set :rolleyes:

but then Error Na left court and Super Na show up ... 6 straight games to win 1s ... 2nd straight AO SF :worship:

Petkorazzi :hug: you should teach Na how to do your dance :angel:

Lin Lin
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:32 AM
Li Na was too good today:eek:

She hasn't peaked too soon:eek:Good luck against Caro or Fran:yeah:

Petkovic:hug:

Mynarco
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Petkovic :sad: 2-0* in both sets and couldn't do anything.
ErrorNa tried to take control but Super Na defeated her inner demon

This match is all Li.

Jane Lane
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:33 AM
:haha: @ the title. One time NA-MUG is amusing.
Okay Na, so all you have to do now is obliterate Woz and maybe I will forgive you for beating Vika. Maybe.

Tennisation
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Na is gonna kill Woz in the semis, Na for the her first slam title. GO Na!!!

Pops Maellard
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Li. :worship:

M.P
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Na Na:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
:worship::worship::worship::worship:

DeliriousPotato
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:33 AM
13 winners to 15 errors. Not as good as against Azarenka, and she sometimes lacked point initiative, but still the most impressive player in the tournament.

Sp!ffy
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:33 AM
I cant believe NaNa defended her SF points. Great job.

eck
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Na :yeah:

Andrea :hug:

puppy777
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Very solid - Caro will have her hands full if she makes it past Fran :tape:

Steff_forever
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:33 AM
congrats Na, the much better player...
:worship:

Andy :hug:

Root
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:33 AM
:worship:

Smitten
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Expected. This is what I thought Sharapova would do to Petkovic. Andrea can't handle this type of hitting with her stroke production or movement.

Sean.
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:34 AM
Great stuff from Li, she's a joy to watch when she plays well. And she looks so happy at the moment. And pretty hot too. :devil:

Petkovic has a good game, but she doesn't match up well against players like Li. She will probably stay around 10-15 for most of her career.

Vee Williams
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:34 AM
Li will be the favorite in her next match as well. Good play!

Daniel K
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:34 AM
Too good :D Great shot at making the final. Get it Na.

goldenlox
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:34 AM
Li should beat Petkovic easily. She has a good shot at this title.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:34 AM
After 0-2 in the first set, Na made only 2 Unforced errors in the next 6 games. Controlled aggression for the most part of the match, some incredible cc angles! Petkovic has very little clutch instincts, 4 errors in crucial game to hand Li the win :tape:

PS:- and people were saying that Pova would beat Na, :lol: She just routined a player who demolished Pova.

Mynarco
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:34 AM
Losing not more than 6 games for 5 matches :worship:

Sean.
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:35 AM
:lol: Na's interview

Tennisation
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:35 AM
Petkovic was getting overpowered every single point. Just because she beat a dead Pova doesn't make her a good player, too overrated.

Blu€
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:35 AM
Andrea was quite unimpressive today. Good tournament for her nonetheless.
Na, was pretty solid. WD.

P.S. Federer or Wawrinka, finish fast please!

Annie.
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:35 AM
I like Petkovic now. After the Sharapova match she has really grown on me. But Na is my girl. Petkovic thought she was gonna do her dance and Na was like,

http://i53.tinypic.com/2lu5403.jpg

Khelvors
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:35 AM
petkovic moves pretty well for someone that's 5'11" =]

and petkovic was also pretty respectful for someone who apparently danced after beating sharapova o.o

Langers
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:36 AM
She'd beat Nadal in this form, utterly ridiculous.

Mikey.
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:36 AM
Great job by Na. :yeah: I really hope she makes the final.

http://i55.tinypic.com/30iglsw.jpg

DragonFlame
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:36 AM
Awesome! Totally outclassed her opponent in every department, but made it difficult for herself by not breaking. Credit to her for holding it together.

Awesome form, experience of being in the semi last year losing in a close match to serena, time to go 1 step further. ;)

Defended points from last year! :worship:

PIAoTvTeY
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:36 AM
Wow,a superNaNa stingy with UEs becomes unstoppable
Next match against No.1 seed that may be would be tough,go,NaNa

Temperenka
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:36 AM
Na played a fairly clean match. Andrea was awful. She really wasn't consistent enough and just couldn't find the court for long streches of the match.

If Li keeps seeing the ball the way she is, I think that she can make the final! However, I really don't see her beating Kim (if it is Kim) at such a big stage.

ErrorNa could always rear her ugly head in the semis though. She plays with so little margin.

Andrea :hug: Great tournament! Good win over Maria, but unfortunately Li was just too good today.

Chin up... so much can happen for you this year. :banana: Keep on dancing.

tennis-insomniac
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:36 AM
I thought Petkovic would give tougher fight, but again Na just pushed her off the court.

I miss Sharapova fight spirit.

wildemu
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:37 AM
where's my dance?

Mynarco
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:37 AM
The credit card pisstake is just :haha:

moby
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:37 AM
Really awkward match. Li was playing fairly well, but looked like she was on the brink of emotional implosion for no reason at all.

I think what Li Na does so well is that she's excellent at sustaining quick rallies. She might not be able to hit her hardest groundstroke as hard as the likes of the Williamses or Justine, but her average rally speed is faster than anyone's. She has excellent balance and reflexes from the back of the court. So she simply ups the speed to a level where her opponent is uncomfortable with and waits for the errors or weak replies.

Belmont Lad
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:37 AM
What a lacklustre display by the Petkovic, she didn't show a lot of game out there. Boring match. :yawn:

eck
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:37 AM
Na with the credit card :hearts:

Root
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:37 AM
Her on-court interview. Such a GOAT. :sobbing:

Hardiansf
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:37 AM
SuperNA!!
So proud of you!
Defend her last year points!!!
Win this SLAM baby!!!

hurricanejeanne
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:37 AM
:haha: @ the title. One time NA-MUG is amusing.
Okay Na, so all you have to do now is obliterate Woz and maybe I will forgive you for beating Vika. Maybe.

This.

danieln1
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:37 AM
I think Li will just handle Caro an enourmous beatdown if she continues to play like that and Caro doesn´t raise her level...

But either Li/Wozniacki winning the tournament would be soooo great!

Keadz
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:38 AM
Woo :) Good job Na, play so consistently. Big chance to win her first grandslam here, would be a great story.

Keep up the good form. 10 match win streak (+ Hong Kong wins), this girl is on a roll!

Petkovic's limitations were fully exploited today. Her questionable groundstroke technique couldn't withstand the constant big hitting from Na. Atleast she is a cool chick.

claypova
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:38 AM
Na so happy :banana::banana:

her on-court interviews are so hilarious :sobbing:

Tennisation
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:38 AM
Petkovic should dance and sing "oh Na Na, what's my name"

tennis-insomniac
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:38 AM
She'd beat Nadal in this form, utterly ridiculous.

no no no you did not seriously mean that.

égalité
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:38 AM
So good :hearts: Make the final plz.

Mynarco
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:38 AM
Her on-court interview. Such a GOAT. :sobbing:

She didn't understand the question asking her why she did so well in Australian Open though

Sean.
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:39 AM
I thought Petkovic would give tougher fight, but again Na just pushed her off the court.

Na's not a pusher. :tape:

crazillo
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:39 AM
Great win for Li, and funny courtside interview. :D

tennis-insomniac
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:40 AM
Na's not a pusher. :tape:

I meant in another meaning off course :o

eck
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:40 AM
What did she say about studying?
Sam: "You were so good in tennis"
Na: "I'm good at studying too"???? :confused:

Pasta-Na
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:40 AM
na :)

andrea :hug:

njnetswill
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:41 AM
If only Na could learn how to finish points at net. Players who defend better like Wozniacki and Clijsters will be able to scramble their way back into points that should be over.

Very solid from Na today.

Hardiansf
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:41 AM
Losing not more than 6 games for 5 matches :worship:
:eek: It is, indeed, AMAZING :worship:
Win it all baby NA :bounce:

Roookie
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:41 AM
Wow..Defeding her SF that was impressive Na. I'm also loving she showing her personality on the post-matchs inteviews. Really happy she's in the semis.

Smitten
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:42 AM
Na just "play relax" and "don't think 'bout too much."

BlackPanther.
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:42 AM
Win it all. :rocker2:

Spring Pools
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:43 AM
What did she say about studying?
Sam: "You were so good in tennis"
Na: "I'm good at studying too"???? :confused:

Yeah. So basically, she isn't just an amazing tennis player, but she's really smart. Her husband is lucky. (Unless Na gets pissed off...)

MH0861
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:43 AM
Love the title :lol: Pretty good stuff from Li after she got down in each set, just needs to keep her emotions in check going forward.

Cp6uja
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:44 AM
Petkovic obviously way easy deal with underdog role vs superstar Sharapova, than pressure to became first ever WTA GS semifinalist from Germany in XXI century. Routine win for Na Li and perfect chance to make history and reach 1st ever GS final for some Asian women!

Ellery
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:44 AM
Nana :inlove:

Please hold it together, at least for the next match. :unsure:

tsmile789
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:44 AM
She's also good at university....GOAT!!!

Tennisation
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:46 AM
Na's power is too much for Petkovic. She's the only one left to challenge a mediocre Kim (who's winning matches with 13 winner to 45 error ratio)

Martian KC
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:46 AM
Yeah. So basically, she isn't just an amazing tennis player, but she's really smart. Her husband is lucky. (Unless Na gets pissed off...)

IKR? Don't piss Na off evah!!!!!!!

ZODIAC
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:46 AM
Na Li reminds me of my chinese friend ,everytime she goes to China on holiday she comes back not speaking english well she has to take a month english speaking classes .

Sp!ffy
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:47 AM
PS:- and people were saying that Pova would beat Na, :lol: She just routined a player who demolished Pova.

I havent come across one person who made that allegation, but ok. :unsure:

Marilyn Monheaux
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:47 AM
Get it NaNa! :hearts:

Pops Maellard
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:47 AM
Na's power is too much for Petkovic. She's the only one left to challenge a mediocre Kim (who's winning matches with 13 winner to 45 error ratio)

:tape:

Ellery
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:47 AM
Na Li reminds me of my chinese friend ,everytime she goes to China on holiday she comes back not speaking english well she has to take a month english speaking classes .

wtf :help:

nicidle
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:48 AM
I thought she would give away the 2nd set but she didn't!
Great NaNa!:hearts:

As for Petkovic. She was totally overpowered every single point and her strokes fell short after some rallies.
But her grunts remind me so much of the old lena's grunt.:sobbing::tears:

sammy01
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:48 AM
petko has a big problem deep in her forehand side, she leans back on it and it flies. if any player watched that then it should tell them all they need to know about how to play petko.

li was good, and kept the pressure on petko, but she hits crosscourt like 90% of the time. if she takes on caro in the semis she will need to hit more DTL

Archaeo
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:48 AM
Na :worship: GOAT on-court interview as usual.

Still a great tournament for Andrea :) Hope to see more good results from her in the future.

SELVEN
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:49 AM
Andy:( :hug:

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:49 AM
I havent come across one person who made that allegation, but ok. :unsure:

I said Pova would beat Na and I still believe she would if she could play like she did against goerges

Congrats though. If Na Li wins the AO though, i think i'm going to turn off women's tennis for a bit.

hankqq
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:49 AM
Li :worship: :bounce: So nice to see she backed up her result from last year :yeah: She got a bit tight in the 2nd set when she realized she was close to winning :lol: but she pulled through in straights. Looking forward to the SF match. She is in a great position to reach her 1st slam final :cool:

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:50 AM
petko has a big problem deep in her forehand side, she leans back on it and it flies. if any player watched that then it should tell them all they need to know about how to play petko.

li was good, and kept the pressure on petko, but she hits crosscourt like 90% of the time. if she takes on caro in the semis she will need to hit more DTL

Agreed about the crosscourt reference. We still have to see how Caro is doing though b/c she hasn't showed great form (for her standards) yet.

eck
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:50 AM
Na Li reminds me of my chinese friend ,everytime she goes to China on holiday she comes back not speaking english well she has to take a month english speaking classes .

wtf :help:

:spit:

The 2nd Law
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:52 AM
Please win your next match Na!

CillyUltra
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:52 AM
http://bilder.bild.de/BILD/sport/mehr-sport/tennis/2011/01/24/andrea-petkovic/fg/petkovic-teaser__19287007__MBQF-1295794186,templateId=renderScaled,property=Bild,h eight=349.jpg


Amazing Aussie Open

Caralenko
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:52 AM
Congrats though. If Na Li wins the AO though, i think i'm going to turn off women's tennis for a bit.

GET IT GIRL.

Smitten
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:52 AM
I said Pova would beat Na and I still believe she would if she could play like she did against goerges

Congrats though. If Na Li wins the AO though, i think i'm going to turn off women's tennis for a bit.

:lol: Does Na get you that bothered? She's playing the best tennis of the field right now and she won the Sydney lead up.

How would her winning the AO be a bad thing especially when she has proven she can beat anyone. Who would you rather win it? Wozniacki? Radwanska? Kvitova?(no offense to Petra but she's just as off and on as Na)

Daniel K
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:53 AM
I said Pova would beat Na and I still believe she would if she could play like she did against goerges


:spit:

Taken to a tight three sets by Goerges but would defeat Na? You really underestimate her.

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:54 AM
:lol: Does Na get you that bothered? She's playing the best tennis of the field right now and she won the Sydney lead up.

How would her winning the AO be a bad thing especially when she has proven she can beat anyone. Who would you rather win it? Wozniacki? Radwanska? Kvitova?(no offense to Petra but she's just as off and on as Na)

Her winning AO would be GREAT for tennis. It would bring a ton of new fans.

However, I think how she plays is the epitome of anti-tennis. It's like she's a lesser talented female version of Fernando Gonzalez.

I would rather Caro, Vera or Kim win it. Just my personal preference and i own up to that.

nicidle
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:56 AM
I said Pova would beat Na and I still believe she would if she could play like she did against goerges

Congrats though. If Na Li wins the AO though, i think i'm going to turn off women's tennis for a bit.

When Na plays consistent, she's among the best given her clean and heavy groundstrokes. :wavey:

I don't see her difference to say, sharapova who did the same when she won her grandslam titles.

sammy01
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:56 AM
i have to say i don't like li na either, today was a prime example of even when playing well she is so one dimensional it is painful. not a single slice, or drop shot or blocked return. she just plays the same point over and over again.

DragonFlame
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:57 AM
I said Pova would beat Na and I still believe she would if she could play like she did against goerges

Lets look at this a bit more objective. After what we've seen from pova for the last year, at the warm-ups, and in this tournament i think we can agree that you really tried to convince yourself of something that was never going to happen. :o

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:57 AM
i have to say i don't like li na either, today was a prime example of even when playing well she is so one dimensional it is painful. not a single slice, or drop shot or blocked return. she just plays the same point over and over again.

Which is why I said she's the epitome of anti-tennis.. but again.. personal preference.

Smitten
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:57 AM
Her winning AO would be GREAT for tennis. It would bring a ton of new fans.

However, I think how she plays is the epitome of anti-tennis. It's like she's a lesser talented female version of Fernando Gonzalez.

I would rather Caro, Vera or Kim win it. Just my personal preference and i own up to that.

She actually isn't blasting that much this tournament in terms of just going for outright winners.

She's hitting great crosscourt from both sides and opening up the court and sometimes winning points in depth + pace alone without needing to hit a winner.

That's really all you need against Petkovic's abysmal stroke production.

M.P
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:58 AM
Agreed about the crosscourt reference. We still have to see how Caro is doing though b/c she hasn't showed great form (for her standards) yet.

:bigwave:

moby
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:58 AM
Why is Li Na anti-tennis?

Her ballstriking is the best out there. Arguably the best since Davenport.
And her shot selection (usually a weakness in the past) has been very solid this tournament.

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:58 AM
Lets look at this a bit more objective. After what we've seen from pova for the last year, at the warm-ups, and in this tournament i think we can agree that you really tried to convince yourself of something that was never going to happen. :o

Well obviously Sharapova played like absolute garbage and would have been lucky to get by Andy and most likely would have been crushed by Na. But if she played well.. it woudl have been different. Obviously that's fantasy-land thinking

Rome
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:58 AM
I said Pova would beat Na and I still believe she would if she could play like she did against goerges

Congrats though. If Na Li wins the AO though, i think i'm going to turn off women's tennis for a bit.

I think your wrong because Na handles pace well just look at her match with Kim. Kim was trying to blast her off the court that first set. Then Na started using Kims pace and when kim didn't give her any she tee off on the ball. In order to beat Na you have to have a great Serve because off the ground she is one bad MF.

tarks
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:59 AM
Her winning AO would be GREAT for tennis. It would bring a ton of new fans.

However, I think how she plays is the epitome of anti-tennis. It's like she's a lesser talented female version of Fernando Gonzalez.

I would rather Caro, Vera or Kim win it. Just my personal preference and i own up to that.

How so? I think she's great to watch!

TheDream
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:00 AM
i have to say i don't like li na either, today was a prime example of even when playing well she is so one dimensional it is painful. not a single slice, or drop shot or blocked return. she just plays the same point over and over again.

who cares as long as it's effective. it's gotten her on a 10 match win streak including a win over kim in straight sets. monica seles didn't slice or dropshot either.

DragonFlame
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:00 AM
i have to say i don't like li na either, today was a prime example of even when playing well she is so one dimensional it is painful. not a single slice, or drop shot or blocked return. she just plays the same point over and over again.

Before i'd agree. She definetly has a game that looks one-dimensional. I have to give credit to her for adding aspects to her game though, a topspin forehand, as well as a better topspin backhand, a 2nd serve with more spin, serving more out wide. She's really added elements that make her more consistent, as well as give others less aspects to exploit.

Smitten
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:01 AM
Why is Li Na anti-tennis?

Her ballstriking is the best out there. Arguably the best since Davenport.

I don't understand it either. We have a form player who is WINNING matches and not waiting for opponents to lose them and there are still complaints.

Rome
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:02 AM
Well obviously Sharapova played like absolute garbage and would have been lucky to get by Andy and most likely would have been crushed by Na. But if she played well.. it woudl have been different. Obviously that's fantasy-land thinking

It's her forehand that gets her in trouble. Any smart tennis player would stay away from Maria Backhand. She needs to ask Davenport to help her with her strokes the only player that knows how her game should work. Because Davenport forhand was a killer shot still not better then Steffi Graf i think she had the best Forehand ever tbh.

Khelvors
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:02 AM
li na still ball bashes a bit. like, for a few points, she didn't care that petkovic was in position and just hit it right to her. she still would win the point, but the extra volley that was needed could have become a UE. if she would've just looked to see where petkovic was and wrong-footed her, that would've been smarter =]

Turnip
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:02 AM
Andrea breaks in the first game, and then never looks comfortable again. That's the story of both sets for me. Not to take anything away from Li Na, who turned in another solid performance.

scoobz
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:02 AM
The problem I thought Petkovic had was that she was hitting too many of her shots in the middle 50% of the court width-wise and not much deeper than the service-line in terms of length. Plus she hits with a comparatively large amount of topspin, certainly compared to a flat hitter like Li, so Li could really just set her feet, take the ball at the top of the bounce, and get Petkovic deep into defensive trouble.

I like Andreea's game but she needs to work on getting more depth and/or angle or she will struggle against power-hitters.

She also needs much more beef off that serve, it's way too tentative a shot.

She could do with working on that forehand too, it sailed on her quite a few times today due to poor technique, catching it late, pulling up her shoulders and making the ball sail.

Li can be very ugly to watch, her flat strokes can be glorious and atrocious, often in succession, but she was pretty contained in her shotmaking today, probably because Petkovic's shots were not giving her a hell of a lot of trouble positionally or pace-wise either. She did seem very fraught and wound-up in that second set, but managed to hold it together in the end.

Serenita
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:03 AM
Win it all NA:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

TheDream
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:04 AM
I think your wrong because Na handles pace well just look at her match with Kim. Kim was trying to blast her off the court that first set. Then Na started using Kims pace and when kim didn't give her any she tee off on the ball. In order to beat Na you have to have a great Serve because off the ground she is one bad MF.

na li was hitting nothing but crosscourt shots to kim at first however. then, she started blazing shots up the line and that changed the match.

sammy01
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:04 AM
who cares as long as it's effective. it's gotten her on a 10 match win streak including a win over kim in straight sets. monica seles didn't slice or dropshot either.

monica played amazing angles and was just an incredible competitor. i didn't say li na wasn't effective either, just that IF she plays caro and they both go into crosscourt mode hitting their usually shots for me it will be boring to watch. you may feel differently about it.

Before i'd agree. She definetly has a game that looks one-dimensional. I have to give credit to her for adding aspects to her game though, a topspin forehand, as well as a better topspin backhand, a 2nd serve with more spin, serving more out wide. She's really added elements that make her more consistent, as well as give others less aspects to exploit.

i agree she has added some spin, but she still only has one game and is probably the most alergic player at coming to net ever.

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:05 AM
She actually isn't blasting that much this tournament in terms of just going for outright winners.

She's hitting great crosscourt from both sides and opening up the court and sometimes winning points in depth + pace alone without needing to hit a winner.

That's really all you need against Petkovic's abysmal stroke production.

True, it's all you need.. but really hitting crosscourt is nothing special.. she does it well of course but it doesn't mean she's not one-dimensional

Why is Li Na anti-tennis?

Her ballstriking is the best out there. Arguably the best since Davenport.
And her shot selection (usually a weakness in the past) has been very solid this tournament.

She's hitting the ball very well. But tennis is more than just taking whacks at the ball.

I think your wrong because Na handles pace well just look at her match with Kim. Kim was trying to blast her off the court that first set. Then Na started using Kims pace and when kim didn't give her any she tee off on the ball. In order to beat Na you have to have a great Serve because off the ground she is one bad MF.

Sharapova playing well has good serving and is stronger off the baseline than Kim. Totally different opponent. But like I said.. that was probably fantasy.

How so? I think she's great to watch!

Na Li is great for tennis.. people like her. I'm not saying that's wrong.

who cares as long as it's effective. it's gotten her on a 10 match win streak including a win over kim in straight sets. monica seles didn't slice or dropshot either.

Monica Seles did have a slice.. and there were other aspects of her game as well. Watch a few tapes from the 90s.

I don't understand it either. We have a form player who is WINNING matches and not waiting for opponents to lose them and there are still complaints.

It's great she's winning. I just cannot enjoy watching her at all. Personal preference.

DragonFlame
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:05 AM
I don't understand it either. We have a form player who is WINNING matches and not waiting for opponents to lose them and there are still complaints.

exactly, i'm glad to see what she does out on court. She's like the opposite of wozniacki, and its something we need as well.

Noctis
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:06 AM
Congrats Nana . For defending All the points and make sf once more
but it's over vs Wallzniackiz。 hurry up and get that credit card

as for AceHigh. Are we suppose to feel sorry for you or what. That you are thinking
womens tennis still have hope , or Your delusional to think Na going to win.
It's better to switch off the streams to save eletricty, you can be helpful for helping the envirorment instead :secret:

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:06 AM
i agree she has added some spin, but she still only has one game and is probably the most alergic player at coming to net ever.

Adding spin is something you teach to kids. It's such a basic element and doesn't stop her from being a one-dimensional ballbasher.

But people here seem to like ballbashers so that's fine.

janezhang
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:07 AM
It's great to see Na playing consistently and she can now find a way to fight back or turn around when she was down. Turning ErrorNa to TopspinNa or VarietyNa, then to GOAT Na.
Please keep this form!

Nice tournament for Andrea,too!:hug:

TheDream
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:08 AM
@aceshigh ive seen plenty of matches from the 90's. show me one where seles sliced. :lol:

dragonflies
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:08 AM
I said Pova would beat Na and I still believe she would if she could play like she did against goerges

Congrats though. If Na Li wins the AO though, i think i'm going to turn off women's tennis for a bit.

hope Na win the whole thing, so this forum will be more pleasant and less annoying without you.:bounce:

StarLuk
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:09 AM
i have to say i don't like li na either, today was a prime example of even when playing well she is so one dimensional it is painful. not a single slice, or drop shot or blocked return. she just plays the same point over and over again.

Players do not play tennis just for drop shot or blocked return,all they want is to win a match.
Of course u could choose not to like Na,and Chaky absolutely likes to drop shot ,who may meets ur demands I guess,and ranks around 100.

Smitten
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:09 AM
who cares as long as it's effective. it's gotten her on a 10 match win streak including a win over kim in straight sets. monica seles didn't slice or dropshot either.

Seles did have a dropshot. Go watch her run the field on clay year after year.

moby
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:09 AM
She's hitting the ball very well. But tennis is more than just taking whacks at the ball.At its heart tennis is about winning matches, and in particular winning the big ones. Li Na's one dimensional game seems to be capable of that.

Let's face it, virtually all players but a handful are one-dimensional nowadays. At least Li's single dimension is quite wonderful in its excellence. It's just beautifully aggressive ballstriking. I prefer it to Azarenka's or Wozniacki's or Bartoli's one dimension.

You're quite right that tennis is more than just taking whacks at the ball. But before you can have "more", you must first be able to whack the ball in the modern game. A fact that seems to have escaped certain players, most notably one A. Radwanska.

The Dawntreader
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:12 AM
True, it's all you need.. but really hitting crosscourt is nothing special.. she does it well of course but it doesn't mean she's not one-dimensional



If Li is one-dimensional, then a player like Wozniacki surely fades into nothing. The double-standard is pretty obvious.

sammy01
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:13 AM
Players do not play tennis just for drop shot or blocked return,all they want is to win a match.
Of course u could choose not to like Na,and Chaky absolutely likes to drop shot ,who may meets ur demands I guess,and ranks around 100.


their aim maybe to win matches, but mine as someone watching is to enjoy the tennis. li na's game does very little for me.

p.s chak will be ranked 51 on monday :p

Smitten
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:13 AM
Davenport's game is never insulted, and yes she did have slightly more variety and shot selection than Li, but the majority of the time she did this same thing only more consistent.

njnetswill
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:14 AM
Li has come a long way since losing to Pelletier

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:15 AM
Let's face it, virtually all players but a handful are one-dimensional nowadays. At least Li's single dimension is quite wonderful in its excellence. I prefer it to Azarenka's or Wozniacki's one dimension.

I like Wozniacki because it takes some thought and it's a nice change from all the other ballbashers. I couldn't watch her all day (i'm not a masochist), but I can findn something interesting in her game.

I agree about Azarenka though.
Still, I cannot watch a player who does not have some kind of repertoire of shots, even if they're executed poorly. Na Li is mowing through the field (which is great), but she's like a machine without a human brain. I admit I have only seen 2-3 matches of her this year and she's visibly improved from years past, but still.. just not a brand of play I can stomach.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:15 AM
If Li is one-dimensional, then a player like Wozniacki surely fades into nothing. The double-standard is pretty obvious.

A person supporting Wozniacki/Kim to make the final is complaining about Na Li's frequency of crosscourt shots :lol:

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:15 AM
Well played Na :yeah:

Still a very solid run for Pet :banana:

sammy01
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:15 AM
If Li is one-dimensional, then a player like Wozniacki surely fades into nothing. The double-standard is pretty obvious.

for me she is even worse :tape:

DragonFlame
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:17 AM
Adding spin is something you teach to kids. It's such a basic element and doesn't stop her from being a one-dimensional ballbasher.

But people here seem to like ballbashers so that's fine.

So you're saying its easy to change aspects of your game in your late twenties? ... Again, i dont agree. For someone who hits as flat as Li, i'm truly surprised by that topspin forehand she uses so well in this tournament.
I don't like ballbashers(and i think after watching me post for 5 years anyone can agree on that), but i like Li and her potential. She's making interesting changes to her game, and it's showing in the results. Besides that, she's not a mental pushover, which seems to be rare these days.

I agree that it will be interesting to see what she's going to do when her game is not working. Maybe we'll see that in the next 2 matches.

The Dawntreader
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:17 AM
for me she is even worse :tape:

Li worse than Wozniacki aesthetically? Just NO:p

Mynarco
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:18 AM
Li has come a long way since losing to Pelletier

:haha:

Smitten
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:18 AM
I like Wozniacki because it takes some thought.

Do you seriously think Wozniacki develops a game plan before her matches or adapts/adjusts how she is playing depending on what happens in a match?

Explain the thought that happens in Wozniacki's game. She sees the ball. She runs after it. She hits the ball. She repeats this until her opponent makes an error.

Just because she does a few changes of pace, which equates to her hideous 2 handed fake Kournikova slice or a moonball, doesn't make her more entitled to win a slam than Li. :lol:

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:18 AM
If Li is one-dimensional, then a player like Wozniacki surely fades into nothing. The double-standard is pretty obvious.

Wozniacki tries to do other things.. she will try to hit approach shots.. she will try to come to net.. she will try to hit a slice or squash shot. She does none of these things very well and does not do them often, but there is at least the attempt.
Additionally, Caro is a defensive player in a sea of ballbashers. That alone makes her interesting to me.

Davenport's game is never insulted, and yes she did have slightly more variety and shot selection than Li, but the majority of the time she did this same thing only more consistent.

Davenport was smart on the court, had a great net game and watching her was like watching a tennis clinic. She was able to utilize slice, add appropriate spin to the ball, direct it at will according to the opponent's weakness, etc. There really is no comparison IMO.

sammy01
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:19 AM
Li worse than Wozniacki aesthetically? Just NO:p

i meant caro whale loverboy :p

TheDream
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:20 AM
Seles did have a dropshot. Go watch her run the field on clay year after year.

li na dropshots occasionally too. in fact, i am willing to bet every player in the top 100 has been taught how to dropshot. but many of them, including seles, didnt utilise it often enough. lindsay davenport had great volley's but it rarely showed since she stayed on the baseline.

Droolv
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:20 AM
Go all the way Na :rocker2:

Craig.
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:21 AM
After 0-2 in the first set, Na made only 2 Unforced errors in the next 6 games. Controlled aggression for the most part of the match, some incredible cc angles! Petkovic has very little clutch instincts, 4 errors in crucial game to hand Li the win :tape:

PS:- and people were saying that Pova would beat Na, :lol: She just routined a player who demolished Pova.

Who the hell said that? :weirdo:

Smitten
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:21 AM
Wozniacki tries to do other things.. she will try to hit approach shots.. she will try to come to net.. she will try to hit a slice or squash shot. She does none of these things very well and does not do them often, but there is at least the attempt.
Additionally, Caro is a defensive player in a sea of ballbashers. That alone makes her interesting to me.



Davenport was smart on the court, had a great net game and watching her was like watching a tennis clinic. She was able to utilize slice, add appropriate spin to the ball, direct it at will according to the opponent's weakness, etc. There really is no comparison IMO.

Na tries dropshots and tries to volley too. She tried horribly in Sydney to volley particularly against Jovanovski.

And oh no. Davenport did not come to net nearly enough for her net game to be mentioned. When she got to net was she competent? Yes. The majority of the time she sat on the baseline STANDING STILL ALMOST no less and whacking flat groundstrokes cleaning up opponents in about an hour.

mickymouse
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:22 AM
Petkovic kept hitting to Li's forehand and letting her dictate the point. Even when it was blatantly obvious that her forehand is on fire and she's not missing much today.
That said, Li has really been impressive this tournament so far and I really hope she keeps it up for 2 more matches.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:22 AM
Do you seriously think Wozniacki develops a game plan before her matches or adapts/adjusts how she is playing depending on what happens in a match?

Explain the thought that happens in Wozniacki's game. She sees the ball. She runs after it. She hits the ball. She repeats this until her opponent makes an error.

Just because she does a few changes of pace, which equates to her hideous 2 handed fake Kournikova slice or a moonball, doesn't make her more entitled to win a slam than Li. :lol:

What are you talking about? She has amazing on-court tactics, double handed bh slices, flat forehand drives, dropshots that would put Hingis to shame and those volleys can rape anyone a new ahole. Dont even get me started on her lobs, she once successfully lobbed Cibulkova, a sight to behold :worship:

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:22 AM
So you're saying its easy to change aspects of your game in your late twenties? ... Again, i dont agree. For someone who hits as flat as Li, i'm truly surprised by that topspin forehand she uses so well in this tournament.
I don't like ballbashers(and i think after watching me post for 5 years anyone can agree on that), but i like Li and her potential. She's making interesting changes to her game, and it's showing in the results. Besides that, she's not a mental pushover, which seems to be rare these days.

I agree that it will be interesting to see what she's going to do when her game is not working. Maybe we'll see that in the next 2 matches.

It's personal preference. And adding topspin to your shots is not a change to your game. It's basic tennis. When you are taught how to play you learn how to hit topspin, flat and underspin or slice. It's tennis 101 that if your shots are flying or you are having trouble with consistency, add spin for needed cushion.

Like I said, Li is good for tennis. I just don't like watching her is all.

Do you seriously think Wozniacki develops a game plan before her matches or adapts/adjusts how she is playing depending on what happens in a match?

Explain the thought that happens in Wozniacki's game. She sees the ball. She runs after it. She hits the ball. She repeats this until her opponent makes an error.

Just because she does a few changes of pace, which equates to her hideous 2 handed fake Kournikova slice or a moonball, doesn't make her more entitled to win a slam than Li. :lol:

I never said Wozniacki is more deserving. I just prefer watching her. Personal preference people! :p

The Dawntreader
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:24 AM
Wozniacki tries to do other things.. she will try to hit approach shots.. she will try to come to net.. she will try to hit a slice or squash shot. She does none of these things very well and does not do them often, but there is at least the attempt.
Additionally, Caro is a defensive player in a sea of ballbashers. That alone makes her interesting to me.




Since when?

Wozniacki's defensive reaction shots are just that-reactive! There is no calculation to try and dissect her opponents rythm. She just shovels up the appropiate amount of joke to try and retain her court positioning. This is the bare minimum for any defensive player.

Li for all her erratic tendencies plays courageous tennis by today's standards. Every shot has leverage, good width, and is usually always pro-active. Can we ever say the same about our esteemed number 1?

Rome
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:24 AM
na li was hitting nothing but crosscourt shots to kim at first however. then, she started blazing shots up the line and that changed the match.

Yeah but she used Kims pace. She loves pace

StarLuk
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:24 AM
their aim maybe to win matches, but mine as someone watching is to enjoy the tennis. li na's game does very little for me.

p.s chak will be ranked 51 on monday :p
good for her,considering not taking any practise in the winter.:lol:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:25 AM
i meant caro whale loverboy :p

Alisa has a very outgoing personality, nothing shameful about loving her.

TheDream
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:26 AM
Wozniacki tries to do other things.. she will try to hit approach shots.. she will try to come to net.. she will try to hit a slice or squash shot. She does none of these things very well and does not do them often, but there is at least the attempt.
Additionally, Caro is a defensive player in a sea of ballbashers. That alone makes her interesting to me.



Davenport was smart on the court, had a great net game and watching her was like watching a tennis clinic. She was able to utilize slice, add appropriate spin to the ball, direct it at will according to the opponent's weakness, etc. There really is no comparison IMO.

what? you really havent seen davenport play much have you? i think you're actually pontificating significantly because lindsay rarely got to the net although she had solid volley's. and utilise slice? davenport never sliced.

scoobz
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:27 AM
Alisa has a very outgoing personality, nothing shameful about loving her.
She certainly pulls people into her orbit.

Or is that just her gravitational field?

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:27 AM
Since when?

Wozniacki's defensive reaction shots are just that-reactive! There is no calculation to try and dissect her opponents rythm. She just shovels up the appropiate amount of joke to try and retain her court positioning. This is the bare minimum for any defensive player.

Li for all her erratic tendencies plays courageous tennis by today's standards. Every shot has leverage, good width, and is usually always pro-active. Can we ever say the same about our esteemed number 1?

Since when? I've been watching her all this week. And of course Na Li plays a different brand of tennis. And I wouldn't call it courageous. Until recently, I'd call it foolish.

Anyway, I already know your thoughts on Caro and I'm pretty sure they aren't going to change anytime soon :lol:

sammy01
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:28 AM
Alisa has a very outgoing personality, nothing shameful about loving her.

yeah but alisa squeazing out her hair, is no serena circa 2002 :tape:

Smitten
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:29 AM
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Because this is SO MUCH different than what Li is doing.

The Dawntreader
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:29 AM
Since when? I've been watching her all this week. And of course Na Li plays a different brand of tennis. And I wouldn't call it courageous. Until recently, I'd call it foolish.

Anyway, I already know your thoughts on Caro and I'm pretty sure they aren't going to change anytime soon :lol:

Very much like 'Caro's' game herself. I guess we're both as stubborn as each other.

Well... she has no choice in the matter:p

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:30 AM
yeah but alisa squeazing out her hair, is no serena circa 2002 :tape:

Whales love water. Who knows what sort of fetishes Jonnyboy carries.

Yes viewers, incase you missed it, The Dawntreader has a dominatrix fetish for 02Rena

Noctis
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:30 AM
She didnt commit to tennis all her life University&Badmington
She didnt commit to Wta main events till late 20s.
She suffered Injuries,Her knee,Her back
She came from a poor place.So she couldnt have proper trainning and help
She a one dimensional baseliner like or not
She has improved if you see all her matches from back from just bashing the ball,to learn some patience and
occasionaly some volleys and dropshost which is not to perfetion.She has moved very well,before she stuck like a dead horse.Defending increased her own ability even at her age.Her serve has become better and more consistent.
She doesnt think alot most of the time.Oh wellwhat can you do 80% of the tour use they brain anyways?
She just got dump by her coach.
She's a bad woman? should be hated. ok her game,but her personality and demeanor towards other things,I'll drop you down and kick your ass.
She enjoying tennis,been a happy married woman. if you say one thing bad about her,but her game,i'll say it again if i had to.
Sammy just make sure you don't cross the line,and anyone of you. fat jokes or ugly jokes is allowd though.

I am not piss as much since she won,but i'll have been holding all AO.

Serena' you don't know me'

Rome
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:30 AM
Davenport's game is never insulted, and yes she did have slightly more variety and shot selection than Li, but the majority of the time she did this same thing only more consistent.

If Davenport was as fast as say a 17-19 year old Sharapova. I belive she would have won about 15 slams or more she had touch at net huge serve and big ground strokes. But Davenport was the slowest player i ever seen. which is the reason she only won 3 majors

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:32 AM
If Davenport was as fast as say a Sharapova.

Now she is..or maybe the other way around.

sammy01
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:32 AM
Whales love water. Who knows what sort of fetishes Jonnyboy carries besides the Dominatrixrena one.

oh i know a few adonis legs, but i shall not upset our jonny on tf :lol:

The Dawntreader
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:34 AM
oh i know a few adonis legs, but i shall not upset our jonny on tf :lol:

Mods, this dude needs to go:o

The Dawntreader
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:35 AM
Whales love water. Who knows what sort of fetishes Jonnyboy carries.

Yes viewers, incase you missed it, The Dawntreader has a dominatrix fetish for 02Rena

Who doesn't?:drool:

eck
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:35 AM
What are you talking about? She has amazing on-court tactics, double handed bh slices, flat forehand drives, dropshots that would put Hingis to shame and those volleys can rape anyone a new ahole. Dont even get me started on her lobs, she once successfully lobbed Cibulkova, a sight to behold :worship:

You make it sound like that's so hard to do :p

DragonFlame
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:35 AM
It's tennis 101 that if your shots are flying or you are having trouble with consistency, add spin for needed cushion.

Of course, but what i'm hinting at is that Na Li is using topspin more to effectively attack her opponent, as well as moving them around. Not just on defense or in reaction. She's using it to set up points, which is not easy to do when you're used to an entirely different approach. We've seen so many players fail adding elements to their games, ana ivanovic and her invented 'topspin forehand' come to mind. That's why its surprising Li is using these shots so effectively right now.

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:36 AM
Okay, I had a long post before my internet went down.. so I'll just say that Davenport definitely came to net, used slice etc. She knew how to play tennis so well and that's why she will always be one of my faves. I remember specifically that 1998 final against Hingis.. you'll find her come to net there, a few slices, and even a dropshot or two.

There is NO comparison to Na Li.

jefrilibra
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:37 AM
Na Li was impressive today! The pace of some of her shots were just amazing and she hit the balls so cleanly! She could reach the final!

delicatecutter
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:37 AM
I think Li will just handle Caro an enourmous beatdown if she continues to play like that and Caro doesn´t raise her level...

But either Li/Wozniacki winning the tournament would be soooo great!

Fixed. :angel:

Well that was as one-sided as I feared. GOAT-NA sure did make Petkovic look pretty mediocre out there. :help:

Keep it up, Na!! Great to see such inspired tennis. :worship: I don't know why Martina kept going on about how Li doesn't have a lot of power. :confused:

sammy01
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:37 AM
Mods, this dude needs to go:o

don't come for me bitch or i'll slash your pedal pushers :o

Who doesn't?:drool:

no comment [/knowstoomuch]

moby
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:38 AM
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Because this is SO MUCH different than what Li is doing.NJe-_m8H1v8

Na playing the same player.

Actually Na hit a dropshot-lob combi in the second point of the video. Against Wingis of all people.

Noctis
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:39 AM
Okay, I had a long post before my internet went down.. so I'll just say that Davenport definitely came to net, used slice etc. She knew how to play tennis so well and that's why she will always be one of my faves. I remember specifically that 1998 final against Hingis.. you'll find her come to net there, a few slices, and even a dropshot or two.

There is NO comparison to Na Li.

Yeah just give up :lol
even tennisexperts ' Oh its Li Na, the umpredictable one,you can predict her,so you don't know whats shes gunna do' :kiss:

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:41 AM
Of course, but what i'm hinting at is that Na Li is using topspin more to effectively attack her opponent, as well as moving them around. Not just on defense or in reaction. She's using it to set up points, which is not easy to do when you're used to an entirely different approach. We've seen so many players fail adding elements to their games, ana ivanovic and her invented 'topspin forehand' come to mind. That's why its surprising Li is using these shots so effectively right now.

Well that is really sad honestly about ana :lol: But I was surprised as well that Na Li was using topspin instead of just blistering flat shots at her opponent. However, I still think it's relatively simple and basic. In the age of ballbashers, I guess we have just reached a point where basic elements of the game are foregone for power. For example, Na Li is definitely not the only one who doesn't know how to effectively implement a slice into her game. So many girls don't even know when to come to net or hit a drop shot.

Anyway.. I think anyone winning from this point on would be great for tennis (aside from Aga although I do like her). If Na Li wins her maiden slam at AO (how fitting btw), then I'll congratulate her and tip my hat off to a great slam. However, it's just not something I personally would be interested in.

Pasta-Na
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:41 AM
NJe-_m8H1v8

Na playing the same player.

Actually Na hit a dropshot-lob combi in the second point of the video. Against Wingis of all people.

i remember na did the same thing vs venus in 2011 AO QF (2nd or 3rd game in the final set) as well. :p

Smitten
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:45 AM
In the age of ballbashers, I guess we have just reached a point where basic elements of the game are foregone for power.



We reached that years ago. Hence Wozniacki can be #1 with an umimpressive yet constant baseline game.

Rome
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:45 AM
Na tries dropshots and tries to volley too. She tried horribly in Sydney to volley particularly against Jovanovski.

And oh no. Davenport did not come to net nearly enough for her net game to be mentioned. When she got to net was she competent? Yes. The majority of the time she sat on the baseline STANDING STILL ALMOST no less and whacking flat groundstrokes cleaning up opponents in about an hour.

I have to agree. Bold part of the post made me giggle

delicatecutter
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:46 AM
I can't believe some of the stupidity in this thread. :o

eck
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:47 AM
NJe-_m8H1v8

Na playing the same player.

Actually Na hit a dropshot-lob combi in the second point of the video. Against Wingis of all people.

There was also a squash shot retrieving-esque shot in there by Na.

John.
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:47 AM
Na :cheer: GL in the SF

TheDream
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:47 AM
Okay, I had a long post before my internet went down.. so I'll just say that Davenport definitely came to net, used slice etc. She knew how to play tennis so well and that's why she will always be one of my faves. I remember specifically that 1998 final against Hingis.. you'll find her come to net there, a few slices, and even a dropshot or two.

There is NO comparison to Na Li.

lindsay davenport hardly ever sliced or came to the net. not to say she couldn't, but it was so infrequent that anybody would tell you that it was definitely not a make or break for her. for one, she is one of the slowest ever at transitioning to the net, so she only approached it when she knew she had an easy put away volley or smash. i barely recall her slicing at all. she even said she was uncomfortable hitting that shot. i don't think you've seen davenport play much. i love lindsay so i pretty much know all the nuances of her game as ive seen hundreds of her matches.

DragonFlame
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:47 AM
Well that is really sad honestly about ana :lol: But I was surprised as well that Na Li was using topspin instead of just blistering flat shots at her opponent. However, I still think it's relatively simple and basic. In the age of ballbashers, I guess we have just reached a point where basic elements of the game are foregone for power. For example, Na Li is definitely not the only one who doesn't know how to effectively implement a slice into her game. So many girls don't even know when to come to net or hit a drop shot.

Anyway.. I think anyone winning from this point on would be great for tennis (aside from Aga although I do like her). If Na Li wins her maiden slam at AO (how fitting btw), then I'll congratulate her and tip my hat off to a great slam. However, it's just not something I personally would be interested in.

On the other hand, why is adding a slice considered so special. I dont think it offers Li anything beneficial to her game, whereas the topspin was so crucial in her development.

To each his own, and lets leave it at that.:) I was just hoping to make you see there are definetly interesting elements in her game that could even appeal to you. Maybe you can find something in the next matches, i'm definetly looking forward to see how she'll handle Wozniacki/schiavone, as should you. :wavey:

Noctis
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:48 AM
Ahh,I Remember it

Acehigh did say

can guarantee she won't. She's way too streaky and just not that good.

Should Sharapova win tonight, I fully expect Maria to take her down.

BlueTrees
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:49 AM
Li might just win the tournament..

edificio
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:50 AM
Na Li was impressive today! The pace of some of her shots were just amazing and she hit the balls so cleanly! She could reach the final!

Yes, I think her chances are very good, especially if she can stay focused and be aggressive.

Noctis
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:50 AM
Li might just win the tournament..

she will lose in SF

Renalicious
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:51 AM
GOGOGO Na. :worship: Second straight AO SF

hpme
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:52 AM
The current Li Na is better, I like her game at AO

Lemonskin.
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:52 AM
Goats and credit cards???... I've been away from the game too long...

Ryan
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:54 AM
WD Na, great form to start the year. I am not a fan of her tennis, but if she can play like this more consistently I can see myself coming to appreciate it. Not rooting for her to win the tourney, but I'll be happy for her if she does.

Pops Maellard
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:55 AM
The title maybe should've been "Officer Na shuts down Andy Petkorazzi's Dance Party".

Milito22
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:02 AM
:hug: Andreita :sobbing: :sad:
now win the tittle Na :rocker2:

RenaSlam.
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:11 AM
Wow. She. Could. Go. All. The. Way.

Zhao
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:14 AM
Li Na definitely was one-dimensional before 2011... somehow her husband managed to convince her to play with more topspin and because of this she is able to get more precision on court placement / opening up the court (TOPspin Na), making it easier for her to go for the kill (GOAT NA)... maybe Li Na does have a slice / dropshot but base on what i see she doesn't really need to use these shots at all...
Also i think she has a defense game right now (TOPSPIN NA)... and her turning defense to attack has been :eek:
so i say she's upgraded to 1.5 dimensional :lol:
i think its all a matter of perspectives... u guys can argue with Aceshigh till the cows come home... she also says that its her opinion, though i think its abit biased...we shd respect it however...

Randy H
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:15 AM
Pretty solid performance from Na, especially considering it was a slam QF match - Showed her experience and raised her game where needed :)

Petkovic has steadily improved and I'm pleased to see she will move into the top 25 next week :) I think she can move into the top 15 if she can keep up the good results and keep building on the experience she is getting right now. Needs to work a bit on that second serve and staying down with the forehand.

ElusiveChanteuse
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:16 AM
Na :cheer: 2nd straight semis, this puts her above Jie now.:p

Petkorazzi :awww: :hug:

DragonFlame
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:25 AM
Na :cheer: 2nd straight semis, this puts her above Jie now.:p

Petkorazzi :awww: :hug:

Her game has always been steps above Zheng, all the class wins and h2h records speak for themself. It was a matter of time really, lets hope she can go at least 1 more step and make a slamfinal. :bounce:

Pasta-Na
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:37 AM
Na :cheer: 2nd straight semis, this puts her above Jie now.:p

Petkorazzi :awww: :hug:

jie reached 2 G.S SFs as well. :p

starin
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:38 AM
:bounce: NAGoat

Singleniacki
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:39 AM
NaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNa :D

slnbb
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:45 AM
Her game has always been steps above Zheng, all the class wins and h2h records speak for themself. It was a matter of time really, lets hope she can go at least 1 more step and make a slamfinal. :bounce:

Na :cheer: 2nd straight semis, this puts her above Jie now.:p

Petkorazzi :awww: :hug:

How come this puts her above Jie ?
Jie reached 2 GS SFs too you know, and with two GS Doubles titles.
Also, Jie has a 4-0 h2h record against lina
check the information first before you post

Gêmeos
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:55 AM
How come this puts her above Jie ?
Jie reached 2 GS SFs too you know, and with two GS Doubles titles.
Also, Jie has a 4-0 h2h record against lina
check the information first before you post

Stop comparing na with zheng,obviously they are not on the same level

tennis-insomniac
Jan 25th, 2011, 03:05 AM
True, it's all you need.. but really hitting crosscourt is nothing special.. she does it well of course but it doesn't mean she's not one-dimensional



She's hitting the ball very well. But tennis is more than just taking whacks at the ball.



Sharapova playing well has good serving and is stronger off the baseline than Kim. Totally different opponent. But like I said.. that was probably fantasy.



Na Li is great for tennis.. people like her. I'm not saying that's wrong.



Monica Seles did have a slice.. and there were other aspects of her game as well. Watch a few tapes from the 90s.



It's great she's winning. I just cannot enjoy watching her at all. Personal preference.


I doesn't also like Li Na's tennis, and agree what you've conferred. The game completely depends on physical fitness which is the key for every athlete, but having a second plan is helpful because in some matches Na Li can play the most horrible tennis you can see from the "top player".

tennis-insomniac
Jan 25th, 2011, 03:08 AM
How come this puts her above Jie ?
Jie reached 2 GS SFs too you know, and with two GS Doubles titles.
Also, Jie has a 4-0 h2h record against lina
check the information first before you post

:cheer:

Khelvors
Jan 25th, 2011, 03:15 AM
i would take a healthy fit zheng jie over li na ;)

zheng jie was the true breakthrough for china, no disrespect to li na. first GS semifinals for a chinese woman (i think) and two GS doubles titles with yan zi

also, the first chinese woman to enter the top 15 in singles rankings, not to mention her ranking high of 3 in doubles

zheng jie is also younger

Shaun:::
Jan 25th, 2011, 03:33 AM
i would take a healthy fit zheng jie over li na ;)

zheng jie was the true breakthrough for china, no disrespect to li na. first GS semifinals for a chinese woman (i think) and two GS doubles titles with yan zi

also, the first chinese woman to enter the top 15 in singles rankings, not to mention her ranking high of 3 in doubles

zheng jie is also younger



then:confused:
Li Na is the first chinese to won WTA title and Premier title
the first chinese entered top20&10 and first Olympic semifinalist

dun try to ignore those result when u said Jiejie is the breakthrough for China:rolleyes:

Nico_E
Jan 25th, 2011, 03:39 AM
good tournament Petkovic, you did your job getting rid of Martha big head

slnbb
Jan 25th, 2011, 03:42 AM
stop just stop with anymore jie and na comparison. this thread is supposed to be celebrating na's win.
they are both accomplished Chinese players and received great respect from the Chinese crowd, period.

Khelvors
Jan 25th, 2011, 03:43 AM
then:confused:
Li Na is the first chinese to won WTA title and Premier title
the first chinese entered top20&10 and first Olympic semifinalist

dun try to ignore those result when u said Jiejie is the breakthrough for China:rolleyes:

well, jie is the first breakthrough. entering the top 10 is definitely really impressive, but we'll see if she can get past the SF. i agree that would be another, more impressive breakthrough =]

you know zheng jie got a doubles medal in the beijing olympics right. :angel:

don't get me wrong, i like li na. i just like little jie a lot more :angel:

Shaun:::
Jan 25th, 2011, 03:44 AM
:angel::bigwave:

Andy.
Jan 25th, 2011, 03:55 AM
She has a real Aura about her ATM her ground strokes are so powerful and accurate. It reminds me a little of 2008 AO Masha.

~MashyOwnThemAll
Jan 25th, 2011, 04:00 AM
Love this title! :hearts:

:bigwave:

AnDrEi.b
Jan 25th, 2011, 05:13 AM
Andrea :hug:

Alejandrawrrr
Jan 25th, 2011, 05:16 AM
Too bad Nana will lose to GOATniacki next round.

homogenius
Jan 25th, 2011, 05:18 AM
Li vs Kim in the final ?

Sasja
Jan 25th, 2011, 05:23 AM
Li in the semi final without dropping a set :yeah:

Ferg
Jan 25th, 2011, 06:20 AM
Win the whole thing Na :bowdown: I was worried that Petkovic wouldnt be able to beat Woz if she won today so IM very pleased.


Still a great tournament Andrea :banana:

bandabou
Jan 25th, 2011, 06:25 AM
No more dancing? :sad:

Sharapovian
Jan 25th, 2011, 06:33 AM
Congrats Na! :)

Defended SF points too. :yeah:

*Jool*
Jan 25th, 2011, 06:38 AM
well done , Na ! :yeah:
Petko, nice start of the year ! :hug:

Beat
Jan 25th, 2011, 08:34 AM
na really has been the best so far. sure, this doesn't mean she wins the title, but it'd be awsome.

TuxedoSlam
Jan 25th, 2011, 08:37 AM
Na played solid and hit some awesome cc winners. Petkovic selfdestructed.

-NAJ-
Jan 25th, 2011, 08:52 AM
Na Li was just too good

Libertango
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:12 AM
That's it Na! :yeah:

Daniel
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:15 AM
Andrea :(

benbest
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:17 AM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1569521/chinese-dancing-o.gif

Chance
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:29 AM
i've never said this about any other player, but the way Na was playing it reminded me of Serena...

I can see Na winning this but you never know when she will go into error mode, plus she can be a choker sometimes.

hmm might put my first bet on a woman's match.....

btw Sharapova really did beat herself when she lost to Petrokvic. Petrokvic is solid and is a good mover but she really did feed off Sharpy's errors.

Sombrerero loco
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:35 AM
petko =(

ce
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:16 AM
:inlove:

matthias
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:49 AM
Li Na played great
if she can continue this, she has a shot for the title

Slutati
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:46 AM
Go girl win the whole thing :cheer: When did Na get so sexy? :eek: She looked so hot!

Claycourter
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:03 PM
Petkomug doesn't belong in slam QFs.

Brena
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:16 PM
Go go go Nanana! :hearts:

tonybotz
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:23 PM
na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-hey hey hey- goodbye petkovic

Pops Maellard
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:27 PM
You know what you have to do in the next round Na. :armed:

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q98/AporiaInSpace/lucy01.jpg

Pasta-Na
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:52 PM
"Two days ago I wanted to see how Andrea played against Maria, but Kuzy and Schiavone were playing and TV didn't show much of the other match," Li said. "It was tough. I only practiced with Andrea one time last year. So, at the beginning of the match, I was a little bit nervous. But I played well today."

:spit:

ce
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:57 PM
Please Na trash W.
That coach who choose Maria instead of Na :spit:

Stevecw
Jan 25th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Petko :( Pity she lost, but Na is playing so so well.

Match v Caro will be fascinating to watch.

FORZA SARITA
Jan 25th, 2011, 04:22 PM
i'm really starting to like Na :dance: win the title :yeah:

Ferg
Jan 25th, 2011, 05:19 PM
Petkomug doesn't belong in slam QFs.

Mug? :haha: Someone clearly spent their ban over on MTF :hearts:

The Daviator
Jan 25th, 2011, 05:21 PM
So happy Na defended her points, would love to see her as a the winner. I've thought for a long time that she would sneak a Slam somewhere, this is her best shot.

Spring Pools
Jan 25th, 2011, 08:03 PM
IKR? Don't piss Na off evah!!!!!!!

I remember a winner that Na hit that was exactly on the line. Na had this look on her face that said "I dare you umpires to call it out"

Spring Pools
Jan 25th, 2011, 08:13 PM
I like how Li plays since she also has the great angles and when she comes to net, she's pretty good. She is learning how to construct points better rather than just kill the ball.

CillyUltra
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:25 PM
Petkovic was tired, because she couldn't sleep all the night and wasn't able to handle the unusual early match time (she played nearly all matches of her Brisbane, Melbourne tournaments in the evening), otherwise it would have been a tighter match. That's something she will do better next time, as well as improving her game. She's an extremely fast learner, given how she has developed herself since her comeback without much wta experience 2 1/2 years ago.

Pressure and tiredness got to me - but I gave it everything (http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/pressure-and-tiredness-got-to-me--but-i-gave-it-everything-20110125-1a4ai.html)