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VeeJJ
Jan 24th, 2011, 07:45 AM
This tournament has been better than the past 2 years of the WTA. And Serena is no where to be found.

Lucemferre
Jan 24th, 2011, 07:49 AM
I'm not laughing. It's not just Serena. Venus,Henin,Sharapova, Ivanovic, Safina, Jankovic all the players who can play at the highest level are injured/lost/sucking. If you enjoy 'classic' matches between mediocre players yes it's a great tournament. When schiavone is one of only two major champions left in the draw there must be something wrong:tape::lol:

mariavikafan
Jan 24th, 2011, 07:50 AM
And who said that?
People were just saying this tournament would be bad because the level of women's tennis before OZ was shit.

Kworb
Jan 24th, 2011, 07:51 AM
I do really feel her absence. Elena's too. The draw just isn't "complete". But yes it has been an entertaining tournament so far.

jimmy_the_greek
Jan 24th, 2011, 07:52 AM
2007 AO was my favorite :sad:
2011 would be second for me.

VeeJJ
Jan 24th, 2011, 07:59 AM
I do really feel her absence. Elena's too. The draw just isn't "complete". But yes it has been an entertaining tournament so far.

Elena should have waited it out! This AO would have perfect for her. :sad:

Mistress of Evil
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:11 AM
Rena is the queen. Without her AO has lost some of its magic. Last two years, yeah there were also a lot of mugs making it far but at least she was there playing some amazing tennis.

Raiden
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:25 AM
I do really feel her absence. Elena's too. But yes it has been an entertaining tournament so far.Dementy's absence was actually more felt at last year's snoozefest a.k.a. Wimbledon. She was the kinda player who really could have spiced it up significantly, but alas, it wasnt meant to be.

bandabou
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:35 AM
The thing is..Serena was sooooooo much better than the rest of the field, that it automatically became kinda boring. Now there's not really somebody standing out..apart of Kim.

The 2nd Law
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:37 AM
I miss Serena, but it's been the best slam in a while.

Galsen
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:38 AM
believe what you want but it does suck period. when Serena's here it's not that much better and w/o her it's worse

clonesheep
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:46 AM
The thing is..Serena was sooooooo much better than the rest of the field, that it automatically became kinda boring. Now there's not really somebody standing out..apart of Kim.

Kimmie will be gone in a couple of hours. Go Makarova!!!

Olórin
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:51 AM
We haven't even got past the 4r yet, fool.

Let's wait and see if we get a single good match in the quarters, semis or final!

StephenUK
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:55 AM
All this talk about Serena being much better than this field is pretty much academic as those people are talking about Serena from Australian Open 2010, you could say the same about Henin 2007. The fact is that who knows what Serena 2011 will be like, she may come back as Jill Craybas 2004 Wimbledon Serena. If she had come back at this event, she probably would not have lasted into the second week, like her sister or Henin, as she would have come back too soon like them and probably aggravated her injury.

The fact is that tennis fans are going to have to get used to a world without Serena, Justine or Venus soon enough anyway, and this event has shown that the tennis can be exciting and the tournament can be great without them. Is that a surprise? Well, not really, tennis has always moved on and is bigger than any individual players.

volta
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:56 AM
Here we go ...

TheDream
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:08 AM
All this talk about Serena being much better than this field is pretty much academic as those people are talking about Serena from Australian Open 2010, you could say the same about Henin 2007. The fact is that who knows what Serena 2011 will be like, she may come back as Jill Craybas 2004 Wimbledon Serena. If she had come back at this event, she probably would not have lasted into the second week, like her sister or Henin, as she would have come back too soon like them and probably aggravated her injury.

The fact is that tennis fans are going to have to get used to a world without Serena, Justine or Venus soon enough anyway, and this event has shown that the tennis can be exciting and the tournament can be great without them. Is that a surprise? Well, not really, tennis has always moved on and is bigger than any individual players.

justine said her lost had nothing to do with her injury.

Maddox
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:11 AM
What are you talking about it does suck. All the former champs and number 1s are out. Nothing left but pushters and nobodies.

NeeemZ
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:20 AM
What are you talking about it does suck. All the former champs and number 1s are out. Nothing left but pushters and nobodies.

What tournament are you watching? Clijsters (a former No.1) and Wozniacki (current No. 1) are still in the tournament. Please get your facts straight.

Pops Maellard
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:34 AM
It hasn't sucked. Despite all the former #1s mugging out early, there've been some players on nice runs early in the year keeping it up.

Kvitova, Li, Petkovic, all titlists/finalists and are backing it up with a great result at the AO.

BuTtErFrEnA
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:41 AM
hm interesting


same players bomb out early, serena wins the slam = boring
same players bomb out early, serena doesn't win = exciting

Slutiana
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:50 AM
I'm not laughing. It's not just Serena. Venus,Henin,Sharapova, Ivanovic, Safina, Jankovic all the players who can play at the highest level are injured/lost/sucking. If you enjoy 'classic' matches between mediocre players yes it's a great tournament. When schiavone is one of only two major champions left in the draw there must be something wrong:tape::lol:
Exactly.

First week has been great, but with all those players injured/losing easily and playing shit, this second week looks about as riveting as watching the weather channel. No big matches to look forward ro at all. The fact that I'm rooting for a bashfest final pretty much sums it up.

kman
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:55 AM
What are you talking about it does suck. All the former champs and number 1s are out. Nothing left but pushters and nobodies.

And #1 seed, #2 seed and #3 seed.

Venus is a nobody nowadays. Get over it.

TheHangover
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:56 AM
i think is better to see really competitive and unpredictable matches between "mediocre" players (as somebody said), than a wimbledon with serena and venus in the opposite sides of the draw with matches they win 6-4 6-1 and than meet in the final, i prefer long rallis ending with a volley, than a one two service-forehand, i know that serena is the best but she kills the show

Singleniacki
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:58 AM
Fran/Sveta match between "mediocre" slam winners > any match Serena by herself, could have produced.

Chance
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:07 AM
And #1 seed, #2 seed and #3 seed.

Venus is a nobody nowadays. Get over it.

rich...considering Vee is ranked higher than the two players in your signature.

Three matches stood out for me this year, and nothing beats Svetlana and Franny's match, but last year had Justine's comeback, Sharapova's loss and Serena's quarterfinal match.

I'll wait until the end of the AO to decide which year was more enjoyable.

bandabou
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:09 AM
All this talk about Serena being much better than this field is pretty much academic as those people are talking about Serena from Australian Open 2010, you could say the same about Henin 2007. The fact is that who knows what Serena 2011 will be like, she may come back as Jill Craybas 2004 Wimbledon Serena. If she had come back at this event, she probably would not have lasted into the second week, like her sister or Henin, as she would have come back too soon like them and probably aggravated her injury.

The fact is that tennis fans are going to have to get used to a world without Serena, Justine or Venus soon enough anyway, and this event has shown that the tennis can be exciting and the tournament can be great without them. Is that a surprise? Well, not really, tennis has always moved on and is bigger than any individual players.

That remains to be seen...if we get a new winner, say a wozniacki or petrovic, then you could say so..that tennis has moved on. But if you get a Kim or a Fran, then it is still the same old, no?

tennis-insomniac
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:10 AM
lol at some people her are still in denial :rolleyes:

kman
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:14 AM
rich...considering Vee is ranked higher than the two players in your signature.

It's an old sig. Those two players are nobodies too nowadays. Mere cannon fodder.

SOA_MC
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:15 AM
All the slams are 10x more interesting now.

It's like people can't remember the boring 6-0 6-1 early rounds drubbings in 38 minutes of last decade.

BlueTrees
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:20 AM
This is the best Grand Slam event I can remember but it has nothing to do with Serena not being there :shrug:

Rome
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:36 AM
Why do people lie last year Victora almost beat the great Serena Willams.

goldenlox
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:50 AM
The WTA will be fine no matter who's playing. When the older players arent around, it just more openings for other players, like Li, or Fran, Petra, or Andrea, and they just get more exposure.

The key is that the mens sucks this year.
The QF's look boring, unless you're a true ATP fan.

You got Roger/Nole, that winner vs Rafa
Thats it.

Womens side is more open, and #1 is up for grabs unless Caro wins another match.

debby
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:52 AM
blah

it is still blah, only that Fran-Kuzzie match was awesome !
But that's it :shrug:

So yeah, this AO sucks in terms of quality, especially in latter stages on this AO, since Venus, Justine, Sharapova, Ivanovic, Jankovic all lost, when they are in second week, they find a way to produce good tennis.

At least, it is not boring, we don't know who is going to win, especially if Kim loses at some point. We will see how the others players might deal with the latter stages and the pressure of winning a Slam.

That's why RG was really exciting, Stosur was fearless against Justine, Serena and Jankovic, and Schiavone, despite losing so many finals, managed to win that Slam playing amazingly.

Raiden
Jan 24th, 2011, 11:11 AM
The WTA will be fine no matter who's playing. When the older players arent around, it just more openings for other players, like Li, or Fran, Petra, or Andrea, and they just get more exposure.

The key is that the mens sucks this year.
The QF's look boring, unless you're a true ATP fan.

You got Roger/Nole, that winner vs Rafa.Exceuse me?

Roger vs Wawa is gonna be very entertaining without a doubt. And how come you dismiss Andy Murray? He's on a roll and he Rafa are likely gonna have an SF showdown which is gonna be spectacular. Book it!

So if I were you I wouldn't get too far ahead of things and assume that the women are gonna run away with all the fun and dazzle and spectacle this time around.

MrSerenaWilliams
Jan 24th, 2011, 11:14 AM
hm interesting


same players bomb out early, serena wins the slam = boring
same players bomb out early, serena doesn't win = exciting

:shrug: seems pretty straightforward.

Langers
Jan 24th, 2011, 11:25 AM
Been a very good tournament, hopefully with a strong finish.

it-girl
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:09 PM
I'm not laughing. It's not just Serena. Venus,Henin,Sharapova, Ivanovic, Safina, Jankovic all the players who can play at the highest level are injured/lost/sucking. If you enjoy 'classic' matches between mediocre players yes it's a great tournament. When schiavone is one of only two major champions left in the draw there must be something wrong:tape::lol:This.

winone23
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:09 PM
The AO does suck without Serena she is the 2 time defending champ it would have been nice to see how Serena would have fought off her challengers.

MaBaker
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:13 PM
Exceuse me?

Roger vs Wawa is gonna be very entertaining without a doubt. And how come you dismiss Andy Murray? He's on a roll and he Rafa are likely gonna have an SF showdown which is gonna be spectacular. Book it!

So if I were you I wouldn't get too far ahead of things and assume that the women are gonna run away with all the fun and dazzle and spectacle this time around.
Yeah, easy win in straight sets is gonna be very entertaining for Roger's fans.

I miss Serena :selfslap:

it-girl
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:16 PM
Why do people lie last year Victora almost beat the great Serena Willams.I think this year should answer all questions about Victoria. She can trouble the elite players when they are not on their game but when they are on she doesn't stand a chance. People wanted to say oh she can really beat Serena since she won that match in the Miami final against Serena. But what they don't mention is that Serena was clearly injured and probably should not have even played.

Not trying to take anything away from Vika but her game is nowhere near as strong as the big ball strikers of the game.

tonybotz
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:36 PM
its been a disaster for the women - we need a breakout star immediately. watched the men last night and it was so refreshing to see good rallies

ZODIAC
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:38 PM
Serena generates excitement at an event not the pink tennis we are seing now,that Wozniacki match in 4th round was very boring andKim s matches are equally boring.Yesterday match between Vera and Benesova was the most bland match so far..Schiavone is the only one left in the draw with personality,the rest are like robots.

debby
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:44 PM
Yeah, easy win in straight sets is gonna be very entertaining for Roger's fans.

I miss Serena :selfslap:

Well, he could have lost to Simon ( :drool: ) , and lost one set to Robredo while Stan has been impressing so far. Maybe he can pull off a surprise win. :lol:

Serena generates excitement at an event not the pink tennis we are seing now,that Wozniacki match in 4th round was very boring andKim s matches are equally boring.Yesterday match between Vera and Benesova was the most bland match so far..Schiavone is the only one left in the draw with personality,the rest are like robots.

I really really really really hope Francesca will win the AO but I have high doubts she will. Unfortunately, we are headed for a final of pushers :lol: (Wozniacki-Kim). Just kidding about the pushers part, but it is going to be a snozfest.

AcesHigh
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:47 PM
It's been good quality.
And if you're a true tennis fan, you're interested in the tennis going on.. not how many names are in the draw or how many former slam winners are in it.
The tennis is the best for a slam in a few years now.

Slutiana
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:51 PM
Fran/Sveta match between "mediocre" slam winners > any match Serena by herself, could have produced.
That simply proves my point. When two elite players meet, usually we are treated to an exciting, tense and great quality match. If they were stepping up like this in tournaments, there's no way Serena would stroll through these draws. She'd probably still win most, yes, but there would be some brilliant matches along the way.

Young 8
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:52 PM
I'm not laughing. It's not just Serena. Venus,Henin,Sharapova, Ivanovic, Safina, Jankovic all the players who can play at the highest level are injured/lost/sucking. If you enjoy 'classic' matches between mediocre players yes it's a great tournament. When schiavone is one of only two major champions left in the draw there must be something wrong:tape::lol:

lol

Betten
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:56 PM
It has been a decent tournament, with Schiavone/Kuznetsova as the stand-out match.

AO '10 was better though.

Young 8
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:57 PM
blah



So yeah, this AO sucks in terms of quality, especially in latter stages on this AO, since Venus, Justine, Sharapova, Ivanovic, Jankovic all lost, when they are in second week, they find a way to produce good tennis.

.


What the hell are people talking ?

Sharapova, Ivanovic, Jankovic haven't done "squat" in the last 2 years

Venus is probably DONE away from Wimbledon & Henin comeback is still a question mark

Pureracket
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:58 PM
All this talk about Serena being much better than this field is pretty much academic as those people are talking about Serena from Australian Open 2010, you could say the same about Henin 2007. The fact is that who knows what Serena 2011 will be like, she may come back as Jill Craybas 2004 Wimbledon Serena. If she had come back at this event, she probably would not have lasted into the second week, like her sister or Henin, as she would have come back too soon like them and probably aggravated her injury.

The fact is that tennis fans are going to have to get used to a world without Serena, Justine or Venus soon enough anyway, and this event has shown that the tennis can be exciting and the tournament can be great without them. Is that a surprise? Well, not really, tennis has always moved on and is bigger than any individual players.We kinda already what the tour is going to be like without Serena. I'm wondering what this board is going to be like without anti-Serena posters like StephenUK. Stephen, you don't even have a fav on Tour do you? You just kinda troll around to write disparaging remarks, right? I'm not really bothered by it like I used to be, but it's more interesting to me now than anything.

Young 8
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:00 PM
AO '10 was better though.



Says who ?

I remember only 2 exciting matches (Li-Venus, Serena-Azarenka)

ZODIAC
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:03 PM
Well, he could have lost to Simon ( :drool: ) , and lost one set to Robredo while Stan has been impressing so far. Maybe he can pull off a surprise win. :lol:



I really really really really hope Francesca will win the AO but I have high doubts she will. Unfortunately, we are headed for a final of pushers :lol: (Wozniacki-Kim). Just kidding about the pushers part, but it is going to be a snozfest.I want a Kvitova vs Schiavone final ..please no boring Wozniacki and Kim final

doooma6816
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:03 PM
It's good, but it could be definitely better if Serena would be here...and Vee, Justine, Sharapova, Jankovic would be in form. Probably we would have had good matches from the beginning to the end. But it's nothing new those four girls, which i mentioned sucks for at least one year. So from latest slams, this AO is definitely the best. AO '10 was better, but RG(except final), W, US Open...were horrible, especially US Open.

doooma6816
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:05 PM
Says who ?

I remember only 2 exciting matches (Li-Venus, Serena-Azarenka)

Serena-Justine
Justine-Elena
Justine-Yanina
and some others...

Wilson_07
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:05 PM
i don't get it. what does serena's absence have to do with the better tennis at this event? :scratch:
and i do not even agree with that actually. you all just seem like little pessimists who criticise women's tennis just for the fun of it.
all the players who have been bashed so much on here for their recent success are still in the draw (wozniacki, clijsters for example) and just because there are some new names in the draw who have reached the fourth round, this tournament has to be better than all the major tournaments in the past :rolleyes:

Young 8
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:08 PM
Serena-Justine
Justine-Elena
Justine-Yanina
and some others...


Oh.....I get it


You're an Henin fan so every match with her is automatically good

sammy01
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:14 PM
hm interesting


same players bomb out early, serena wins the slam = boring
same players bomb out early, serena doesn't win = exciting


you what, the numbers 1, 2 and 3 seeds are in the qtrs. the french open champion, sydney winner, brisbane winner to.

you could actually argue this is one of the few slams where the form players have held up very well.

MaBaker
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:16 PM
Well, he could have lost to Simon ( :drool: ) , and lost one set to Robredo while Stan has been impressing so far. Maybe he can pull off a surprise win. :lol:
All that doesn't matter since Stan will pull down his panties for Rogie, as usual.

doooma6816
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:17 PM
Oh.....I get it


You're an Henin fan so every match with her is automatically good


Yes, I'm, but Serena-Justine match was great...and Elena-Justine was one of the best of 2010...even a lot of people said that. :shrug:

Vartan
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:19 PM
Oh.....I get it


You're an Henin fan so every match with her is automatically good

:lol:

doooma6816
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:29 PM
Oh.....I get it


You're an Henin fan so every match with her is automatically good

Of course, Justine-Kuzzy match was also the best one becuase Justine played...lol.:rolleyes:

BepaMaria
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:30 PM
If Serena plays, we all know who would win the tournament, which would make it boring and suck even more:shrug:

JN
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:46 PM
blah

it is still blah, only that Fran-Kuzzie match was awesome !
But that's it :shrug:

So yeah, this AO sucks in terms of quality, especially in latter stages on this AO, since Venus, Justine, Sharapova, Ivanovic, Jankovic all lost, when they are in second week, they find a way to produce good tennis.

At least, it is not boring, we don't know who is going to win, especially if Kim loses at some point. We will see how the others players might deal with the latter stages and the pressure of winning a Slam.

That's why RG was really exciting, Stosur was fearless against Justine, Serena and Jankovic, and Schiavone, despite losing so many finals, managed to win that Slam playing amazingly.

Let's put this in proper order: "since Ivanovic, Jankovic, Justine, Venus, Sharapova all lost". Sorry, that was kinda bugging me.

bandabou
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:02 PM
But why the dig at Serena? So when Serena plays, suddenly tennis isn't fun or interesting? What's that supposed to mean?

Irute
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:09 PM
But why the dig at Serena? So when Serena plays, suddenly tennis isn't fun or interesting? What's that supposed to mean?

Well said :yeah:

AcesHigh
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:11 PM
Although I too disagree with mentioning Serena, I guess this thread is a response to the many people on TF who said b/c Serena was absent, AO would suck

bandabou
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:22 PM
Well said :yeah:

well said as in: yeah, tennis sucks when Serena plays? :scared: :unsure:

Irute
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:30 PM
well said as in: yeah, tennis sucks when Serena plays? :scared: :unsure:

:lol: don't be paranoid; why would I say that? Serena can add to the tournament, but it doesn't mean that her absence nullifies the event. This one has been very nice.

bandabou
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:37 PM
:lol: don't be paranoid; why would I say that? Serena can add to the tournament, but it doesn't mean that her absence nullifies the event. This one has been very nice.

Oh like that..:lol: Tennisforum, u never know.

2moretogo
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:45 PM
Hmmm... it is hard to compare one year to another (especially when this years isn't complete yet). I definately think Serena's presence or absence doesn't make the tennis bad or worse.

I sense that the players feel this is a real opportunity without Serena being in the draw. I think they have seen what it has done for the past 3 FO winners (Ana, Sveta, and Fran), and are treating it as such. I also think that with Justine and Venus recovering from injuries, and Ana, Maria, and Jaja playing without a lot of confidence, and now all of them out of the tourney, that the 8 women left are seeing a real good chance of nabbing their first AO title/Major.

J4m3ka
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:48 PM
It does suck.

BlameSerena
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:58 PM
schiavone and kuzzy have saved the ao somewhat.other than that sarin is sorely missed. even if u dislike her there is an argument to be made that she legitimizes a slam. i miss her but the wta misses her more. having other 'contenders' lose early doesn't help. i even miss old faithful dementieva. it just is a sad state of affairs.

Serenita
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:09 PM
1 Excited match. the rest pure mediocre.

Vikapower
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:12 PM
Australia definitively sucks without Serena and anyone who says the contrary truly doesn't like tennis (...) personally if I was a player and if I had won the event I'd be very sad and disgusted to not have played and beat Serena since she has dominated the event so much !

Stamp Paid
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:13 PM
Its definitely missing her presence, and her addition to the draw would have made this tournament immeasurably more interesting.

harloo
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:28 PM
If you're satisfied with a bunch of scrubs choking against each other then you would think the AO was exciting on the women's side. The only good match here was Sveta vs. Francesha and that was due to Sveta choking and not being able to close out the match. :lol:

The fact that you even mentioned Serena's name proves that you miss her presence.:tape: Don't worry, the QUEEN will be back in no time.;)

harloo
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:43 PM
Hmmm... it is hard to compare one year to another (especially when this years isn't complete yet). I definately think Serena's presence or absence doesn't make the tennis bad or worse.

I sense that the players feel this is a real opportunity without Serena being in the draw. I think they have seen what it has done for the past 3 FO winners (Ana, Sveta, and Fran), and are treating it as such. I also think that with Justine and Venus recovering from injuries, and Ana, Maria, and Jaja playing without a lot of confidence, and now all of them out of the tourney, that the 8 women left are seeing a real good chance of nabbing their first AO title/Major.

Serena brings excitement to any draw. Her game and star power is much needed but I agree that her presence or absence doesn't make actual tennis better or worse in terms of play. No one player has control over that aspect of the game.

I agree with you about the lower tier players feeling they have an opportunity because the reigning champion is out injured. Li Na even mentioned in one of her interviews that anything is possible when you see Serena isn't here. All of the players left in the draw know it's a real opportunity to win because they don't have to face Serena. I just wish some of them would step up and play like it instead of just caving in to a mediocre Kim. But then again, that's what's most likely going to happen when it's all said and done.:)

Irute
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:49 PM
Serena brings excitement to any draw. Her game and star power is much needed but I agree that her presence or absence doesn't make actual tennis better or worse in terms of play. No one player has control over that aspect of the game.

I agree with you about the lower tier players feeling they have an opportunity because the reigning champion is out injured. Li Na even mentioned in one of her interviews that anything is possible when you see Serena isn't here. All of the players left in the draw know it's a real opportunity to win because they don't have to face Serena. I just wish some of them would step up and play like it instead of just caving in to a mediocre Kim. But then again, that's what's most likely going to happen when it's all said and done.:)

That could of happen with Serena around anyway and may not happen without her. It is not done yet.

sammy01
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:58 PM
lets be honest any tournament with serena in is better off for it. same with both belgians, hence why their retirements were sad for tennis.

having a big name like serena in the draw opens up the possibility for big match ups from the biggest names and best players. if you swap petko for serena, then serena vs li is tastey and possible serena vs caro and serena vs kim would be to. i dare say even some of the serena fans/kim haters would be wanting kim to reach the final if it meant a serena vs kim showdown for the title.

anyhow she isn't here and the players that are in form, kim, li, kvitova and petko have all made it deep, plus the worlds top 2 players by ranking. the oz open hasn't dissapointed so far, even if some of the qtr final matches look like they maybe a little one sided.

TennisFan66
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:23 PM
Australia definitively sucks without Serena and anyone who says the contrary truly doesn't like tennis (...) personally if I was a player and if I had won the event I'd be very sad and disgusted to not have played and beat Serena since she has dominated the event so much !

Riiiight. So if I dare to like tennis (without Serena W), I don't like tenns :lol:

winone23
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:25 PM
If you're satisfied with a bunch of scrubs choking against each other then you would think the AO was exciting on the women's side. The only good match here was Sveta vs. Francesha and that was due to Sveta choking and not being able to close out the match. :lol:

The fact that you even mentioned Serena's name proves that you miss her presence.:tape: Don't worry, the QUEEN will be back in no time.;)

:worship::lol:

Roookie
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:55 PM
This tournament sucks....we're heading to an inevitable Wozniacki vs. Zvonareva final :sobbing:

mariavikafan
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:00 PM
To beat Serena you need to play well, even more in Australia just ask Sharapova, Azarenka or Clijsters so obviously it's a shame she is not there.

2moretogo
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:07 PM
Serena brings excitement to any draw. Her game and star power is much needed but I agree that her presence or absence doesn't make actual tennis better or worse in terms of play. No one player has control over that aspect of the game.

I agree with you about the lower tier players feeling they have an opportunity because the reigning champion is out injured. Li Na even mentioned in one of her interviews that anything is possible when you see Serena isn't here. All of the players left in the draw know it's a real opportunity to win because they don't have to face Serena. I just wish some of them would step up and play like it instead of just caving in to a mediocre Kim. But then again, that's what's most likely going to happen when it's all said and done.:)

Absolutely. Especially given Serena's record and wins here. Hell even the way that she has won this championship in the past. Ranked 81st in the world, fighting off match points, completely destroying players in finals.

Yeah, I heard Na Li say that and began rooting for her even more. She kept it real instead of dodging the elephant in the room. To that point I also like Caro's comments on ESPN though they were a bit dodgy.

I don't have a crystal ball or anything, but I have a feeling that this is not going to happen. Players are very keen on the fact that even before the beginning of the tourney Kim was the favorite to win. That she has suffered some pretty shocking losses here, I think will give them confidence. Besides, she hasn't been playing as well as she does at USO. Whether someone can take advantage is an entirely different question. I think this person is going to have to step it up from the bottom half (Vera/Kit Kat/Aga). I just think if Kim is in the final it will be too late.

Mrs. Peel
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:13 PM
It does suck.

pierce85
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:24 PM
I'm not laughing. It's not just Serena. Venus,Henin,Sharapova, Ivanovic, Safina, Jankovic all the players who can play at the highest level are injured/lost/sucking. If you enjoy 'classic' matches between mediocre players yes it's a great tournament. When schiavone is one of only two major champions left in the draw there must be something wrong:tape::lol:

I totally agree, the op can totally enjoy all the exciting matches between the kvitovas and makarovas. I want to see even a mediocre match between the legends of the generation Serena, Justine, Venus Sharapova,kim even jankovic and ivanovic. Even their mediocre level is not comparable to other player's top level

pierce85
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:42 PM
awful i have no interest left in this tournament. what's your point???

Galsen
Jan 24th, 2011, 06:11 PM
Absolutely. Especially given Serena's record and wins here. Hell even the way that she has won this championship in the past. Ranked 81st in the world, fighting off match points, completely destroying players in finals.

Yeah, I heard Na Li say that and began rooting for her even more. She kept it real instead of dodging the elephant in the room. To that point I also like Caro's comments on ESPN though they were a bit dodgy.
I don't have a crystal ball or anything, but I have a feeling that this is not going to happen. Players are very keen on the fact that even before the beginning of the tourney Kim was the favorite to win. That she has suffered some pretty shocking losses here, I think will give them confidence. Besides, she hasn't been playing as well as she does at USO. Whether someone can take advantage is an entirely different question. I think this person is going to have to step it up from the bottom half (Vera/Kit Kat/Aga). I just think if Kim is in the final it will be too late.

what did she say?

terjw
Jan 24th, 2011, 07:52 PM
Surprised by so many positive posts. In stark contrast to the whiners before the event who you might think wanted it cancelled and moaning about WTA being dead. :lol::lol:.. I was really looking forward to AO beforehand. And I've really enjoyed it. One thing I can understand. If your favs are out - it sucks. If your favs are in - it's good

AcesHigh
Jan 24th, 2011, 07:55 PM
Surprised by so many positive posts. In stark contrast to the whiners before the event who you might think wanted it cancelled and moaning about WTA being dead. :lol::lol:.. I was really looking forward to AO beforehand. And I've really enjoyed it. One thing I can understand. If your favs are out - it sucks. If your favs are in - it's good

Explains the bitter Henin and Serena fans

Craig.
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:18 PM
Meh, apart from that Schiavone-Kuznetsova match, it's been quite average. I don't know what everyone's on about tbh :shrug:

ViceUltramontain
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:26 PM
Meh, apart from that Schiavone-Kuznetsova match, it's been quite average. I don't know what everyone's on about tbh :shrug:

I think that a lot of posters are actually on drugs. The way this Australian Open and Petra Kvitova are overrated these days is scary. One match of 5 hours and the tournament become the best GS in years, wins over Stosur and Pennetta and the Czech become the next number one.

This AO is nothing special. The WTA needs Serena, Venus, Justine, Kim and Maria in form.

pierce85
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:26 PM
Explains the bitter Henin and Serena fans

Or the delusional clijsters fanboys who desperately try to glorify this tournament :lol:

PatrickRyan
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:31 PM
It's missing something not having the two time defending champion there. However this has been a really good quality grand slam with all of the up and comers really making their mark! No Serena, Venus, Henin, Sharapova in the second week of a slam is unheard of!!! :eek:

kiwifan
Jan 24th, 2011, 11:42 PM
this is not a good Slam.

Everyone is scared to win...

...only a Na Li Or a Li Na win can save this lame event. :zzz:

Elisse
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:16 AM
For me, this AO has been one of the best ever!!! :worship:

I don't want to just see the top players making it to the later stages of a Slam, I want to see upsets, lower ranked and younger players doing well, different people inn the QFs, and that mega match between Sveta and Francesca was awesome!!!!!! :hearts:

I think it's good for the top players to do badly at Slams, for one thing it shows that they don't get everything easily, have to work at it and not just rely on a cute smile to get you to the next round. And it makes the top girls more hungry for the next Slam...so good all round!

Btw - Only fail for me during this tourney has been Caro's embarrassing nonsense with the media :o :help:

Max565
Jan 25th, 2011, 05:27 AM
I personally want to see the top players in form playing at their best, into the later stages of the GS...

but this Aussie Open has been good. I mean, this Schiavone-Wozniacki match alone is so entertaining and tense..

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 05:54 AM
Best slam in years

Cleffa
Jan 25th, 2011, 05:59 AM
It is entertaining, and there are some high quality tennis matches such as Schiavone vs Kuznetsova and Henin vs Kuznetsova. But still it lacks high quality tennis because those high quality players don't clash with each other, either due to injury or bad form.

Moveyourfeet
Jan 25th, 2011, 06:07 AM
This slam has been one of the more interesting slams in a very long time. As for Henin, Venus, Serena and Maria not being in the 2nd week of a slam, better get used to it. This is going to be happening more often than not for all of those above mentioned (except Serena)

bandabou
Jan 25th, 2011, 06:08 AM
:lol: Wow...another low. So RG without Juju is no fun, but Oz open without Serena is a whole lot better. Okay..nice.

starin
Jan 25th, 2011, 07:44 AM
how is this the best slam in years? are people blind or has it been so long since we've seen good tennis that people now think average is excellent?

That kuznetsova/schiavone was only epic in score and drama. The tennis itself for the majority of the match was very ordinary. It really only heated up near the end. And the rest of the matches? :rolleyes:

bandabou
Jan 25th, 2011, 08:24 AM
I guess Caro vs Fran was a classic too. :lol:

Raiden
Jan 25th, 2011, 08:40 AM
Best slam in yearsDitto.

Potentially it could even become historic (the first slam of a new era).

debby
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:51 AM
I think that a lot of posters are actually on drugs. The way this Australian Open and Petra Kvitova are overrated these days is scary. One match of 5 hours and the tournament become the best GS in years, wins over Stosur and Pennetta and the Czech become the next number one.

This AO is nothing special. The WTA needs Serena, Venus, Justine, Kim and Maria in form.

This.

Or the delusional clijsters fanboys who desperately try to glorify this tournament :lol:

This again. I mean, Kim is playing horrible and yet she wins in straights, and against easy opponents. So Clijsters fans want to make us believe she is the GOAT of that AO ??? :spit: Please. It is a HORRIBLE AO. It may be even likely that Clijsters won't have to play a Slam champion and still win the AO. How sick.

It's missing something not having the two time defending champion there. However this has been a really good quality grand slam with all of the up and comers really making their mark! No Serena, Venus, Henin, Sharapova in the second week of a slam is unheard of!!! :eek:

No.
Serena is not there because of an injury.
Venus same.
Henin lost after playing a crap match, her third one (exhos don't count) since her elbow injury which lasted 6 months and is not fully healed yet.
Sharapova is a shadow of her former self.

Don't act like they were beaten fair and square (except maybe Sharapova but it was ugly to see nonetheless), it is not a "really good quality grand slam", the up and comers didn't even have to beat healthy and in form players, UNLIKE the Belgians, Sharapova, Kuznetsova in the past. That's so awful.

:lol: Wow...another low. So RG without Juju is no fun, but Oz open without Serena is a whole lot better. Okay..nice.

Not for everyone. :)

Ditto.

Potentially it could even become historic (the first slam of a new era).

A new era ??? :spit: :spit:

renstar
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:44 PM
for tennis fans in general this is one of the best slams in years. For tragic lil queens who show some sort of warped loyalty to certain missing or losing players to them it isnt. Maybe they can get over living their lives through tennis players in therapy:lol:

cellophane
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:41 PM
No.
Serena is not there because of an injury.
Venus same.
Henin lost after playing a crap match, her third one (exhos don't count) since her elbow injury which lasted 6 months and is not fully healed yet.
Sharapova is a shadow of her former self.:spit:

I guess 2007 US Open was horrible too?

Serena was moving like a hippo after injury and played like crap.
Sharapova lost to Radwanska :help:
Kuznetsova and Chakvetadze in semifinals and Kuznetsova playing like :help: in the final
Only Venus was playing well.

Wilson_07
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:19 PM
the tennis so far was good, but nothing really special. and big names also carry some kind of excitement with them, it's not just about the tennis.
maybe some lesser known players produce some nice tennis here and there, but a lot of people just don't care that much who loses or wins those matches :shrug:
people like to cheer for the underdog if they come far at a big event, but in some matches you had to ask who the underdog really was.

kiwifan
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:23 PM
:lol: Wow...another low. So RG without Juju is no fun, but Oz open without Serena is a whole lot better. Okay..nice.

The posters here fail to surprise me with how ridiculously silly they are...

...you'd think a great slam for those haters would be their faves finally beating Serena...

...but celebrating an average, at best, event just because Serena isn't here...

...so weak!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

ZODIAC
Jan 25th, 2011, 03:26 PM
Schiavone has been the star of this event she has a great on court personality than all the qtr finalists combined.overally I think this has been a boring event and I hope Na li wins this thing.

sweetpeas
Jan 25th, 2011, 08:03 PM
To each its own,I' still miss Serena!



Sharapova is a shadow of her former self.
I guess 2007 US Open was horrible too?

Serena was moving like a hippo after injury and played like crap.
Sharapova lost to Radwanska
Kuznetsova and Chakvetadze in semifinals and Kuznetsova playing like in the final
Only Venus was playing well.
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I thought this was about 2011 A.O. so much hating on Serena.GOSH!!!!!Sick of the bull.