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AcesHigh
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:34 AM
The Fran-Sveta match already overshadows anything that happened last year, but there have been some pretty damn good matches on both the men's and women's side this year. Nothing to rival slams past, but compared to recent slams, it's been a nice treat.

I'm watching Peng-Radwanska now and it's good quality and the crowd is really involved.
We have young players stepping up, but still some seeded players making it through and playing well.

Of course some will come in here and tell me how deluded and wrong I must be, but I don't think anyone can deny this tournament isn't the big sh!tfest all of TF predicted.

Lucemferre
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:37 AM
The Fran-Sveta match already overshadows anything that happened last year, but there have been some pretty damn good matches on both the men's and women's side this year. Nothing to rival slams past, but compared to recent slams, it's been a nice treat.

I'm watching Peng-Radwanska now and it's good quality and the crowd is really involved.
We have young players stepping up, but still some seeded players making it through and playing well.

Of course some will come in here and tell me how deluded and wrong I must be, but I don't think anyone can deny this tournament isn't the big sh!tfest all of TF predicted.


No it doesn't. Last year's final was between two most accomplished players of the last decade and nothing in this AO can top that.Definitely not an overrated 4th round match.

AcesHigh
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:38 AM
No it doesn't. Last year's final was between two most accomplished players of the last decade and nothing in this AO can top that.Definitely not an overrated 4th round match.

so a crappy final can overshadow one of the best matches of the Open Era? suuuuuuure

Sp!ffy
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:38 AM
^There was nothing spectacular about that final at all. :weirdo:

Lucemferre
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:42 AM
so a crappy final can overshadow one of the best matches of the Open Era? suuuuuuure

LMFAO at 'one of the best matches of the open era' Last years final was a three set match between two real champions that didn't blow 40-0 leads to close out a mediocre hard court player.

cellophane
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:45 AM
LMFAO at 'one of the best matches of the open era' Last years final was a three set match between two real champions that didn't blow 40-0 leads to close out a mediocre hard court player.

Please shut up... you obviously didn't watch the match

eck
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:48 AM
The only reason why AO2010 would be overshadowed by AO2011 is because of that match.

Six Feet Under
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:49 AM
Please shut up... you obviously didn't watch the match

This.

EASILY. One of the best matches in the Open Era.

Craig.
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:49 AM
LMFAO at 'one of the best matches of the open era' Last years final was a three set match between two real champions that didn't blow 40-0 leads to close out a mediocre hard court player.

Had Justine and Serena played yesterday's classic, you'd so be singing a different tune :tape:

JJ all the way
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:49 AM
LMFAO at 'one of the best matches of the open era' Last years final was a three set match between two real champions that didn't blow 40-0 leads to close out a mediocre hard court player.

Did you even watch last year's final and sveta-fran match?! Top players can play like crap too.....ask Justine about it :p

Lucemferre
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:52 AM
Please shut up... you obviously didn't watch the match

Please stop telling me what to do. I did watch it and it was by no means the greatest match lol or anything like that.Yes they were both fighting and Schiavone was showing a lot of heart but it was not high quality like some of you want us to belive. It was still a 4th round match and they both wont win the title so it was just a historic little memory of AO2011 like Isner-Mahut.

Shvedbarilescu
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:52 AM
The Fran-Sveta match already overshadows anything that happened last year, but there have been some pretty damn good matches on both the men's and women's side this year. Nothing to rival slams past, but compared to recent slams, it's been a nice treat.

I'm watching Peng-Radwanska now and it's good quality and the crowd is really involved.
We have young players stepping up, but still some seeded players making it through and playing well.

Of course some will come in here and tell me how deluded and wrong I must be, but I don't think anyone can deny this tournament isn't the big sh!tfest all of TF predicted.

I'm am totally 100% with you. :yeah:

It has been a fine tournament thus far. The best week 1 of a Slam on the women's side in quite some time, probably a few years.

eck
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:53 AM
Did you even watch last year's final and sveta-fran match?! Top players can play like crap too.....ask Justine about it :p

:sobbing:

Ralph214
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:55 AM
AO '11 > AO '10 :yeah:

Fran-Sveta :hearts:

RenaSlam.
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:11 AM
It will fizzle by the SF/F. Trust me. It's happened at almost every major in recent years.

MB.
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:35 AM
One thing that stands out to me is how each of the Quarterfinalists so far totally deserve it and all showed great tennis to get there (more or less). No real cake-walks to the draw, minus, arguably, Caro.

cellophane
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:47 AM
Please stop telling me what to do. I did watch it and it was by no means the greatest match lol or anything like that.Yes they were both fighting and Schiavone was showing a lot of heart but it was not high quality like some of you want us to belive. It was still a 4th round match and they both wont win the title so it was just a historic little memory of AO2011 like Isner-Mahut.

No you didn't watch it clearly because you wouldn't have been posting crap like "kuznetsova wasted 0 40 lead"

TheDream
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:47 AM
i disagree. we had great matches last year mainly thanks to justine. justine vs. elena justine vs wickmayer. serena vs na li. serena vs vika. na li's comeback against vika. maria k vs maria sharapova.

L'Enfant Sauvage
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:54 AM
It will fizzle by the SF/F. Trust me. It's happened at almost every major in recent years.

I totally agree, sadly. GOATra winning will make it an AO to remember, however :worship:

le bon vivant
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:04 AM
meh. its only the 4th round. when the stakes are a bit higher, i hope the tennis maintains this level (which is far from spectacular anyway) and doesnt fizzle out.
all chinese final please.

The Witch-king
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:32 AM
It will fizzle by the SF/F. Trust me. It's happened at almost every major in recent years.

tru

Vartan
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:40 AM
It definitely is.

Lucemferre
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:43 AM
No you didn't watch it clearly because you wouldn't have been posting crap like "kuznetsova wasted 0 40 lead"

Oh really?


0-40 IN, Winner: Kuznetsova!!! Kuznetsova generates a gorgeous forehand right into the corner and earns three match points.
0-30 IN, Winner: Kuznetsova!!! Schiavone nets a forehand
0-15 IN, Winner: Kuznetsova!!! Kuznetsova returns, comes to net and hits a backhand winner

http://www.tennisearth.com/commentary/full_Australian-Open_Women-Singles_R16_Kuznetsova_Schiavone_315768.htm

Apparently you didn't watch it:lol:

Vartan
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:47 AM
Schiavone played great to save those 3 match points :rolleyes:

olivero
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:56 AM
Oh really?


0-40 IN, Winner: Kuznetsova!!! Kuznetsova generates a gorgeous forehand right into the corner and earns three match points.
0-30 IN, Winner: Kuznetsova!!! Schiavone nets a forehand
0-15 IN, Winner: Kuznetsova!!! Kuznetsova returns, comes to net and hits a backhand winner

http://www.tennisearth.com/commentary/full_Australian-Open_Women-Singles_R16_Kuznetsova_Schiavone_315768.htm

Apparently you didn't watch it:lol:

:weirdo: are you for real? you just proved you didn't actually watch this match

NyCPsU
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:57 AM
Definitely agree with this. I have actually been quite impressed with the quality of many of the matches. Best slam we have had in a while so far, hopefully it can finish like this.

BepaMaria
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:58 AM
True. Matches this year have been much closer and competitive, making it nicer to watch. Bepa improving her run here as compared to last year where she got bagelled in the 4th round by Vika:o also makes it surpass last year.

Too bad the final will not be as good as last year becauseit will be a straight sets demolition of Pushniacki by Mama Kim:(

Lucemferre
Jan 24th, 2011, 06:03 AM
:weirdo: are you for real? you just proved you didn't actually watch this match

I watched the match and I don't care if you don't belive me. As if it's so hard to watch it online even if I hadn't watched it but I did and you really need to start accepting this fact.The point is I was right and he was wrong :lol: I wanted to make sure if I was right and I found that site to confirm it.

shoparound
Jan 24th, 2011, 06:14 AM
One thing that stands out to me is how each of the Quarterfinalists so far totally deserve it and all showed great tennis to get there (more or less). No real cake-walks to the draw, minus, arguably, Caro.

Kim's draw was very very difficult :tape:

Shvedbarilescu
Jan 24th, 2011, 06:19 AM
I watched the match and I don't care if you don't belive me. As if it's so hard to watch it online even if I hadn't watched it but I did and you really need to start accepting this fact.The point is I was right and he was wrong :lol: I wanted to make sure if I was right and I found that site to confirm it.

You just don't get it, do you? We all know Kuznetsova had three match points with Schiavone serving at 0-40. That is not a secret. The point everyone is trying to get into your rather thick head is the all three of those points were won by outstanding play by Schiavone. Kuznetsova did not choke on her opportunities. Indeed Schiavone played these points so well Kuznetsova didn't really have a chance to win any of them.

_Cell-chuk
Jan 24th, 2011, 06:37 AM
The Fran-Sveta match already overshadows anything that happened last year, but there have been some pretty damn good matches on both the men's and women's side this year. Nothing to rival slams past, but compared to recent slams, it's been a nice treat.

I'm watching Peng-Radwanska now and it's good quality and the crowd is really involved.
We have young players stepping up, but still some seeded players making it through and playing well.

Of course some will come in here and tell me how deluded and wrong I must be, but I don't think anyone can deny this tournament isn't the big sh!tfest all of TF predicted.

I disagree with the post. Serena is absent. Justine and Venus are clearly injured. Maria, Jelena and Ana are out of form. Even the second tier top players are losing before the QF. Mama Pushsters will basically push herself to the title this year.

Last year all the mentioned players were in relatively better form. It took an amazing serving performance from Serena to get by Justine. If you watch that match and the Sveta-Franny match back to back, you could see enormous difference in the speed that the ball is traveling at. I respect Sveta and Franny a lot and it was a great match but it was a spin-fest at the end.

Why don't you turn this thread into a poll by the way?

Lucemferre
Jan 24th, 2011, 06:41 AM
You just don't get it, do you? We all know Kuznetsova had three match points with Schiavone serving at 0-40. That is not a secret. The point everyone is trying to get into your rather thick head is the all three of those points were won by outstanding play by Schiavone. Kuznetsova did not choke on her opportunities. Indeed Schiavone played these points so well Kuznetsova didn't really have a chance to win any of them.

Don't insult me.I don't have to agree with you. Kuznetsova had all the chance in the world to win the match but she didn't.She barely won her previous match because her opponent was determined to gift the match to her with errors.Schiavone wasn't, that was the difference. It was no where near being one of the greatest matches of all time. Only the third set was worth anything because of drama and scoreline.

Mistress of Evil
Jan 24th, 2011, 06:56 AM
I am not loving it :shrug:

pancake
Jan 24th, 2011, 07:04 AM
Don't insult me.I don't have to agree with you. Kuznetsova had all the chance in the world to win the match but she didn't.She barely won her previous match because her opponent was determined to gift the match to her with errors.Schiavone wasn't, that was the difference. It was no where near being one of the greatest matches of all time. Only the third set was worth anything because of drama and scoreline.

People don't have to agree with you either so why do you keep telling others how you feel about the match? You are doing exactly the same as them, trying to tell your points, are you insulting them too?

Raiden
Jan 24th, 2011, 07:33 AM
It will fizzle by the SF/F. Trust me. It's happened at almost every major in recent years.The closer women get to ultimate glory, the more uptight and nervous they become.

Lucemferre
Jan 24th, 2011, 07:51 AM
People don't have to agree with you either so why do you keep telling others how you feel about the match? You are doing exactly the same as them, trying to tell your points, are you insulting them too?

I meant this - 'your rather thick head'

Sombrerero loco
Jan 24th, 2011, 07:57 AM
now i wish an epic match between makarova and kim too!

bandabou
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:13 AM
:lol: Of course had Juju won the 3rd-set last year, thennnn...mr Aceshigh wouldn't be saying this. That as an aside.

Fran-Sveta was great though. Last year had Serena vs Vika..not all too bad either, no?

The 2nd Law
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:21 AM
Agreed. It hasn't featured most of the big names, but it's been so fun to watch.

Shvedbarilescu
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:07 AM
I meant this - 'your rather thick head'

What else could I say when you repeatedly didn't comprehend the points that poster after poster were making? :shrug:

cellophane
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:54 PM
Oh really?


0-40 IN, Winner: Kuznetsova!!! Kuznetsova generates a gorgeous forehand right into the corner and earns three match points.
0-30 IN, Winner: Kuznetsova!!! Schiavone nets a forehand
0-15 IN, Winner: Kuznetsova!!! Kuznetsova returns, comes to net and hits a backhand winner

http://www.tennisearth.com/commentary/full_Australian-Open_Women-Singles_R16_Kuznetsova_Schiavone_315768.htm

Apparently you didn't watch it:lol:

You said she WASTED / CHOKED a 0-40 lead. Schiavone hit an ace (I think) down 0-40 and one great first serve which she followed up with a volley winner. That's not wasting a 0-40 lead. Like I said, you clearly didn't watch the match.

AcesHigh
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:57 PM
I disagree with the post. Serena is absent. Justine and Venus are clearly injured. Maria, Jelena and Ana are out of form. Even the second tier top players are losing before the QF. Mama Pushsters will basically push herself to the title this year.

Last year all the mentioned players were in relatively better form. It took an amazing serving performance from Serena to get by Justine. If you watch that match and the Sveta-Franny match back to back, you could see enormous difference in the speed that the ball is traveling at. I respect Sveta and Franny a lot and it was a great match but it was a spin-fest at the end.

Why don't you turn this thread into a poll by the way?

:lol: at spinfest. First, last year's final was pretty crappy.

Second, Venus, Justine, Maria, Jelena and Ana are all IRRELEVANT until further notice. Last year all those players sucked except for Justine and Serena and Justine BARELY made it through.

Mama Pushters? :spit: you obviously have never seen her play or know nothing about tennis whatsoever.

AcesHigh
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:00 PM
One thing that stands out to me is how each of the Quarterfinalists so far totally deserve it and all showed great tennis to get there (more or less). No real cake-walks to the draw, minus, arguably, Caro.

I agree :worship: it's so sad that you can't have more than 8 players in the quarters b/c some players really fought so hard but came up short. There's been so much drama but still good tennis.

i disagree. we had great matches last year mainly thanks to justine. justine vs. elena justine vs wickmayer. serena vs na li. serena vs vika. na li's comeback against vika. maria k vs maria sharapova.

yes, a real classic :help:
None of the other matches were great although Justine/Elena and Justine/Yanina weren't too bad :)

brickhousesupporter
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:14 PM
AO 2010 had Serena vs Justine, Serena vs Azarenka, Justine vs Wickmayer, Justine vs Elena. All those matches were superb. You mean to tell me that Sveta vs Fran beat all those matches.

goldenlox
Jan 24th, 2011, 11:25 PM
No it doesn't. Last year's final was between two most accomplished players of the last decade and nothing in this AO can top that.Definitely not an overrated 4th round match.I thought that 3rd set was the best set of womens tennis I've ever seen. Back & forth after 3, 4 hours & high quality.
But I still agree that getting the 2 best players of this era in this final is more important. They both have played some great tennis at this tournament, even though Justine is not the same after her retirement, its still at least 20 slam wins and both were champions here. And they never meet in slam finals.

DragonFlame
Jan 24th, 2011, 11:28 PM
The Fran-Sveta match already overshadows anything that happened last year, but there have been some pretty damn good matches on both the men's and women's side this year. Nothing to rival slams past, but compared to recent slams, it's been a nice treat.

I'm watching Peng-Radwanska now and it's good quality and the crowd is really involved.
We have young players stepping up, but still some seeded players making it through and playing well.

Of course some will come in here and tell me how deluded and wrong I must be, but I don't think anyone can deny this tournament isn't the big sh!tfest all of TF predicted.

Don´t agree. Justine´s story and matches, serena´s match against stosur last year. There were many things i loved about last year. This year doesn´t compare to that for me, but this year isn´t too bad. Cant wait to see what is to come though.

goldenlox
Jan 24th, 2011, 11:33 PM
This year is very good in a different way. Starting with Makarova-Ivanovic going to Sveta-Justine, Sveta-Fran, this tournament has a lot of drama.

harloo
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:03 AM
:haha::haha:If Sveta wasn't such a choker she would have closed that match out in the third by taking one of those 7 match points. Instead she gifted the match to Franny with a pretty bow.:help: Sveta is superior to Franny game wise but mentally she goes out to lunch every time. You can always count on her to lose control in a tough situation and she lived up to her billing against Fran.

Besides that one match their hasn't been anything remotely exciting or intriguing about the tennis at this years AO. We had several excellent matches at the AO last year. :)

AcesHigh
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:06 AM
:haha::haha:If Sveta wasn't such a choker she would have closed that match out in the third by taking one of those 7 match points. Instead she gifted the match to Franny with a pretty bow.:help: Sveta is superior to Franny game wise but mentally she goes out to lunch every time. You can always count on her to lose control in a tough situation and she lived up to her billing against Fran.

Besides that one match their hasn't been anything remotely exciting or intriguing about the tennis at this years AO. We had several excellent matches at the AO last year. :)

I was 99% sure you knew nothing about tennis, but now I'm 100% sure.
Thanks bye bye :wavey:

TheDream
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:41 AM
I was 99% sure you knew nothing about tennis, but now I'm 100% sure.
Thanks bye bye :wavey:

im afraid you don't know anything about tennis either. the same person that said wozniacki was slow and that na li had no game.

Roookie
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:58 AM
Well...only thing good about AO 10 was Justine and Serena runs. I don't think Sveta-Schiavone match tops it by itself. But its other players like Wozniacki, Zvonareva, Na Li and Kvitova playing some really good tennis as well. Last year we only had two players playing good tennis, this year we have more, not big names but neither flukes...its quite exciting because they all have a chance.

duhcity
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:06 AM
It wasn't the tennis in the Sveta-Fran that puts it over the top. It's the show of athleticism and heart that illustrated their dedication, something a lot of players on the WTA lack.


I disagree with the post. Serena is absent. Justine and Venus are clearly injured. Maria, Jelena and Ana are out of form. Even the second tier top players are losing before the QF. Mama Pushsters will basically push herself to the title this year.

Last year all the mentioned players were in relatively better form. It took an amazing serving performance from Serena to get by Justine. If you watch that match and the Sveta-Franny match back to back, you could see enormous difference in the speed that the ball is traveling at. I respect Sveta and Franny a lot and it was a great match but it was a spin-fest at the end.

Why don't you turn this thread into a poll by the way?

I honestly hate all these "x is absent" "y is injured or slumping". That's sport. If they can't keep themselves healthy, they don't deserve to win a slam. Name recognition and your ability to play tennis well means shit unless you can produce it. And Serena, Justine, Venus, Maria, Jelena, and Ana can't for a variety of reasons. Thus they don't deserve to be the AO 11 Champion.

And if ball speed decided the quality of matches, we should hope that Kvitova and Rezai end up on the opposite side of slam draws for years to come.