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Pureracket
Jan 23rd, 2011, 07:38 PM
The Comics Code Is Dead: DC and Archie Drop Out


The dominoes fell quickly. From comic institution and infamous legacy of kneecapping a medium in order to “protect the children” to irrelevant and unused in just two days.

The Comics Code Authority was an industry trade group formed to promote self-regulation and fend off government censorship. The code was first adopted by publishers in 1954 in response to Fredric Wertham‘s Seduction of the Innocent and Congressional investigation into lurid and excessive comics, often horror titles.

http://comicsworthreading.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/comicscode.jpg

A comic was submitted to a group of readers, who would then evaluate whether that issue was suitable to carry the CCA seal, shown here. Concerned parents were supposed to look for this stamp on the cover to be sure they were getting something suitable for their children. The size of the seal varied over the years, from taking up significant cover real estate during periods of concern to smaller than a stamp at other times. Many purchasers in the current age had no idea what it was about. Historians of the field now bemoan it as restrictive and controlling.

The first chink in the code happened in 1971, when Stan Lee pushed through the publication of The Amazing Spider-Man #96–98 without the code seal. This story, about how terrible drug abuse was, demonstrated the problem with blanket rules. If you said that narcotic use, for instance, couldn’t be shown in a comic, you also couldn’t do a story about its evils. For much more on the history, including copies of the code in its different revisions, read Seal of Approval: The History of the Comics Code by Amy Kiste Nyberg.

Marvel Quits

In 2001, Marvel announced that they were quitting the group and would not be using the seal, instead adopting their own rating system. (At first, they ran into trademark issues, as they copied the movie ratings, which are protected as intellectual property to prevent movie companies from self-rating.) Since independent companies rarely used the CCA, aiming to sell to older readers through the direct market instead of attracting the young on newsstands, that left just a few big publishers as members.

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Pureracket
Jan 23rd, 2011, 07:39 PM
I can promise you that that Jughead is some kinda perv.

Pureracket
Jan 23rd, 2011, 07:39 PM
Seems like they were already defying the code to me. :haha:

http://superdickery.com/images/stories/other/bettyandme16.jpg

http://superdickery.com/images/stories/other/10447_4_0271.jpg

http://superdickery.com/images/stories/seduction/betty-the-hooker.jpg

Or DC for that matter:

Joker's really into boners
http://superdickery.com/images/stories/seduction/the_jokers_boner_2.jpg

While Wonder Woman likes her BDSM
http://superdickery.com/images/stories/oneshot/wwbind.jpg

http://superdickery.com/images/stories/bondage/ww_03_they_want_to_be_slaves.jpg

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 23rd, 2011, 08:46 PM
:lol:^^ I use to read allot of the Archie and Betty & Veronica comics aswell as the DC superheros as a kid. I was never a Marvel fan :p.

Comics have come a long way since then. Last year Archie Comics introduced the first ever major comic book gay character :eek:


ARCHIE, Meet KEVIN, Riverdale's New Gay Student

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/Archie-Gay-Character-100422.html


Archie, Betty, Veronica and Jughead have a new friend: Archie Comics' first openly gay character.

Kevin Keller, who first appears in Veronica #202 released on September 1st, 2010, is a teenager at Riverdale High School, the fictional universe that has been entertaining kids of all ages since 1939.

"In the last year or two, we've been introducing a lot of new characters: Diverse characters, characters with different ethnicities. With trying to be diverse, we wanted to have everybody at the table," said cartoonist Dan Parent, who's writing and drawing the issue. "We knew at some point we wanted to introduce a gay character, and when I came up with the story idea, we felt it worked in context with this story."

In his introductory story, titled "Isn't it Bromantic?," Kevin's good looks get the attention of Veronica, who doesn't know he's gay because he's the new kid in town. Her thwarted attempts at winning his attraction amuse the other characters – particularly Jughead.

They just like watching Veronica making a fool of herself, trying to get this guy to like her," Parent said. "At the beginning of the book, Kevin tells Jughead first that he's gay. And Kevin feels kind of bad and wants to tell Veronica why he's not interested. But Jughead keeps saying, 'No, you should wait to tell her,' because he's enjoying watching Veronica's antics."

Parent said the story works because it's wasn't something radical concocted just to introduce a gay character. "The story is very much in the true context of our Archie stories," he said. "It's Veronica being Veronica. The fact that there's a gay character in the story isn't a big deal to the characters. We didn't do something with turmoil. The guy just happens to be gay, and the characters accept it, and that's it."

The longtime Archie cartoonist said Archie Comics wants to reflect what high schools are like in America, where being gay "isn't a big deal anymore."

"My daughter has openly gay kids in her high school and it's accepted," Parent pointed out. "Obviously this isn't the case everywhere in the country. There are struggles that gay people have. But gay kids in high schools isn't the big deal it used to be, and we want to reflect the way being gay is accepted in today's society."

In fact, the writer thinks one of the reasons Jughead is the first person told about Kevin's sexual orientation is that he was always a "different" character in the Archie universe. "Jughead's got a mind of his own. I think he'd be the first person to be accepting of a gay character," Parent said.

The introduction of a gay character comes on the heels of several notable changes in Archie Comics. After a redesign to update the characters a bit for modern audiences, Archie Comics titles have started doing parodies of current pop culture stories and just introduced an interracial relationship for icon Archie with Josie and the Pussycats character Valerie.

"We're trying to show that Riverdale is an accepting community, that everyone is welcome in Riverdale," he said. "We're trying to show that Riverdale is that ideal town that everybody wants to be a part of."

Super Dave
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:26 PM
I collected mostly Marvel as a kid, actually. My favorite was Fantastic Four. The only DC I collected was Batman.

And I loved to get the Archie paperbacks in the supermarket checkout line. Little Lulu and her fat friend "Tubby" too.

http://www.hembeck.com/Images/FredSez/LuluTubbyBat250.jpg

:eek: Domestic violence!!!1

JN
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:56 PM
Once I discovered "underground" comix, Archie and the Gang quickly fell by the wayside.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2531/4200768514_d0be75ffd5.jpg

http://www.terrapinonline.com/images/Comic/crumb_fritz_cover.jpg

http://library.buffalo.edu/libraries/asl/guides/graphicnovels/img/Coffee1.jpg

The Witch-king
Jan 25th, 2011, 01:37 PM
I don't understand the OP at all.

JN
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:23 PM
Kevin Keller, who first appears in Veronica #202 released on September 1st, 2010, is a teenager at Riverdale High School, the fictional universe that has been entertaining kids of all ages since 1939.

LOL @ 72 years of high school. Has there ever been a comic where the characters actually matured in real-time?

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 25th, 2011, 02:50 PM
LOL @ 72 years of high school. Has there ever been a comic where the characters actually matured in real-time?

:lol: I don't think so. In fact, i was thinking the same thing when i was watching the Simpsons last week.:p

JN
Jan 25th, 2011, 05:34 PM
:lol: I don't think so. In fact, i was thinking the same thing when i was watching the Simpsons last week.:p

Right. If they'd kept it real, Homer would only have 1 hair on his head, now. :lol:

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 25th, 2011, 05:39 PM
Right. If they'd kept it real, Homer would only have 1 hair on his head, now. :lol:

And Maggie would be almost 25 and probobly married with kids of her own :lol:

JN
Jan 25th, 2011, 06:03 PM
And Maggie would be almost 25 and probobly married with kids of her own :lol:

And Bart's life would mirror Ted Williams' (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/13/2011-01-13_ted_williams_goldenvoiced_homeless_man_timeline _from_rags_to_riches_to_dr_phil_i.html). http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9990/simpsonsmadscientistbar.gif

PlayByPlay
Jan 26th, 2011, 03:45 AM
Mad Tv had comics Comic Code definitely didn't apply to them.:lol:

CrossCourt~Rally
Jan 26th, 2011, 03:48 AM
And Bart's life would mirror Ted Williams' (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/13/2011-01-13_ted_williams_goldenvoiced_homeless_man_timeline _from_rags_to_riches_to_dr_phil_i.html). http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9990/simpsonsmadscientistbar.gif

That graphic is priceless :happy: