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doktor
Jan 23rd, 2011, 11:39 AM
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/tennis/top-stories/WTA-suspends-Frances-Rezai-family-member/articleshow/7347585.cms

What do we think is going on here?

Pops Maellard
Jan 23rd, 2011, 11:42 AM
:eek: Sounds intriguing.

BlueTrees
Jan 23rd, 2011, 12:07 PM
Obviously her Dad, I guess. Weren't there rumours years back that the French tennis federation were going to ban him from Roland Garros? :scratch:

Could this new "incident" be the reason behind her horrific form..probably not but it sure wouldn't help.

Lin Lin
Jan 23rd, 2011, 12:07 PM
:eek:

Rafito.
Jan 23rd, 2011, 12:15 PM
Whoa! I suggest this is the reason behind her bad form lately.

Spiritof42
Jan 23rd, 2011, 12:23 PM
I don't like the sound of that. The last thing the WTA needs is another abusive father. I really hope that's not the case, but if it is, I feel sorry for the poor girl.

<Majmun>
Jan 23rd, 2011, 12:29 PM
what bad form? she beat Jelena:confused:

:rolls:

Safe-From-Harm
Jan 23rd, 2011, 12:55 PM
Probably the one who suggested her/ made her the dress she's wearing.

Anyway, without kidding, I really don't like Rezai but situation is gone to this point, that WTA must react, that I hope all will be right soon.

mykarma
Jan 23rd, 2011, 01:01 PM
what bad form? she beat Jelena:confused:
:haha:

terjw
Jan 23rd, 2011, 01:08 PM
OMG. Not another Jim Pierce or Damir Dokic nutcase in the family.

hankqq
Jan 23rd, 2011, 01:08 PM
:sad: I hope this doesn't turn into a Lucic or Dokic situation...

alfonsojose
Jan 23rd, 2011, 01:54 PM
Another abusive dad beating the crap out of his daugher :sad:

hablo
Jan 23rd, 2011, 03:40 PM
Weird. Maybe some french fans can give us more details. :unsure:

Zébulon
Jan 23rd, 2011, 04:45 PM
we haven't got any

Lighter
Jan 23rd, 2011, 04:48 PM
Only this sentence from a french journalist :
Yannick Cochennec: "Des problèmes personnels liés à sa vie privée dont il est difficile de parler ici. Disons que son émancipation n'est pas aisée dans son contexte familial".

It seems that Aravane's father refuses her to make her own life choices.

Source : eurosport

Kipling
Jan 23rd, 2011, 05:01 PM
What follows is pure speculation.

Since learning that Aravane abrubtly parted ways with Mouratoglou I have always found this to be a bizarre decision. She went to 15 in the world under his guidance. She called him her "other Dad" a number of times in public, including in the trophy ceremony at Madrid. She took a number of photos with Patrick's wife and daughter, often playing with her, looking very happy when with them. I think she was.

Suddenly, last summer Aravane went into a miserable slump. We later learned Anouch was not with her due to a bad illness. Aravane was said to have split from Patrick but was working with another coach at the academy for awhile, at least until after the US Open. Then aparently she split from them for good at some point, and was coached only by her Dad and Anouch. She won the French interclubs in early December, and apparently Patrick was in attendance there (?).

In Hong Kong, she appeared in photos to be having lots of fun with Venus, Li Na and Maria Kirilenko out on the town, and looked to be having fun in the matches with Maria and Edberg, smiling and giggling. It looked like only Anouch was with her there.

In Australia, there was a report that she was "nervous" the day of her match with Zahlavova Strychova, like all of a sudden her whole mood changed again. I imagine this was when things blew up with her Dad, if in fact that is what the problem is. I think that, like many overbearing tennis fathers, her Dad probably wants credit for her successes, and if that means squeezing out better coaching for the sake of his own ego, I imagine he is willing to do that. I really think she needs, and wants to strike out on her own with some regular, pro coaching. She is far far better than being coached by her Dad and being held back developmentally. She could be doing so much more, and I think she she understands that, even if her father doesn't.

Smitten
Jan 23rd, 2011, 05:12 PM
what bad form? she beat Jelena:confused:

:lol: :lol:

guichard
Jan 23rd, 2011, 08:52 PM
Only this sentence from a french journalist :
Yannick Cochennec: "Des problèmes personnels liés à sa vie privée dont il est difficile de parler ici. Disons que son émancipation n'est pas aisée dans son contexte familial".

It seems that Aravane's father refuses her to make her own life choices.

Source : eurosport

Do you have a link for that quote

Lighter
Jan 23rd, 2011, 09:00 PM
Do you have a link for that quoteHere : http://www.eurosport.fr/tennis/open-d-australie/2011/chat.shtml?chatid=9d3a865630

Question 12h23

Uranus
Jan 23rd, 2011, 09:28 PM
Should be her dad.

Didn't he really get banned from Roland Garros for a few years? Not really sure he's being abusive to her. Probably he doesn't allow her to make her own life choices but he seems to be that kind of person. I remember he was really violent (with words, maybe threatening ones) towards other players - and one in particular I can't recall.

guichard
Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:04 PM
Here : http://www.eurosport.fr/tennis/open-d-australie/2011/chat.shtml?chatid=9d3a865630

Question 12h23

thanks

Elisse
Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:15 PM
Just read this on Twitter....

More on Rezai: withdrew from doubles w/Razzano w/out personally telling Razzano, due to family issues:

http://bit.ly/hq1GJq

Sonf@
Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:23 PM
Didn't some poster write in his report that Rezai's dad slapped her in the face after she lost a match at Hertogenbosch tournament some years ago?

hablo
Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:26 PM
Just read this on Twitter....

More on Rezai: withdrew from doubles w/Razzano w/out personally telling Razzano, due to family issues:

http://bit.ly/hq1GJq

From the way Razzano is speaking, Rezai's situation sounds quite serious. Worrying... :eek:

Ferg
Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:36 PM
Should be her dad.

Didn't he really get banned from Roland Garros for a few years? Not really sure he's being abusive to her. Probably he doesn't allow her to make her own life choices but he seems to be that kind of person. I remember he was really violent (with words, maybe threatening ones) towards other players - and one in particular I can't recall.

There was one story you probably are thinking of, about Vesnina and Chavetadze, they were practicing before some tournament, and the Rezai's came along and thought they were to have the court. There was an argument and Rezai's father becamse very threatening and swung a racket and hit his daughter accidently in the face. She started crying and he blamed the Russians for it.

Spiritof42
Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:51 PM
It is worrying. It's rather pathetic to see how some people here keep whining about trivial matters like Petkovic's dance or Wozniacki's bogus kangaroo story while something like this is happening to a tennis player...

There was one story you probably are thinking of, about Vesnina and Chavetadze, they were practicing before some tournament, and the Rezai's came along and thought they were to have the court. There was an argument and Rezai's father becamse very threatening and swung a racket and hit his daughter accidently in the face. She started crying and he blamed the Russians for it.
This was back in 2006. According to Chakvetadze, he also headbutted Vesnina's father during the incident:

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=239606

Ilikebigboobies
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:45 AM
The family member had bought a caravan into the stadium, however, it did not have adequate breaks and rolled down the hill, almost running over Aravane.

Poor Aravane Caravan. :sad:

Melange
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:20 AM
[b]
But Aravane Rezai is not feeling the chill. Compared to her everyday existence, which includes sleeping in the family van to save money at tournaments, Roland Garros is nothing short of a theme park.
"It often happens that I cry during training," she said. "Many times I have trained with the snow falling or in the rain or outside when temperatures are below 10 degrees. That's tough, but when I come here, it's really Club Med."

So there really was a caravan :scared:

Cp6uja
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:22 AM
Aravane should to split with her Dad forever, and she is older now than when Pierce, Dokic, Lucic... been in similar position. But I guess in general for Iranian young lady it is always harder decision because whole family is traditionally on father side, no matter who is really wrong in some family conflict, so she is in risk to split with whole family if she split with father. But even in that case she should to make that right decision. At least she is French citizen, adult and rich girl, so if she make that decision nobody will be able to stop her to do that for sure. If she split with him now, when her career is still on prime, risk for Aravane for serious career damage is less. Dokic and Lucic split with possessive dads way too later, so they both are already destroyed as serious real-deal contenders when theirs personal nightmare was finally over after splits.

jimmy_the_greek
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:43 AM
she is a wealthy girl(speaking the obvious), I am sure she can move out of home if she feels threatened.

Serenita
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:57 AM
Poor girl:hug:

ExXotikal
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:06 AM
Being ghetto as f*ck can only take you so far. Poor girl!! :hug:

Lighter
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:55 AM
From "Le Parisien" street edition today :
Aravane Rezaî is still in Melbourne. She has been seen with her boyfriend, walking along shops. But her father, before R1, didn't accept this new relation. Aravane had a strong altercation with her father.

Pops Maellard
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:07 AM
Oh Caravane. :sad:

Noctis
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:33 AM
Any girl that able to scream alot on court
have a problematic father, it's full proof

laurie
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:23 PM
Any girl that able to scream alot on court
have a problematic father, it's full proof

Monica Seles being the exception

doktor
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:26 PM
French media reporting that Arsalan Rezai "disowned" his daughter, physically attacked her, and threatened her bf

I don't have any link for this, all coming from twitter.

itzhak
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:26 PM
From some twitters: French media reporting that Arsalan Rezai "disowned" his daughter Aravane, physically attacked her, and threatened her boyfriend.

itzhak
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:34 PM
The messege from WTA to Lequipe.fr:

"The health and welfare of our players are the No. 1 priority of the WTA. A serious incident was reported to us that led us to suspend for an indefinite period of a member of the family of Aravane Rezai. An investigation was conducted. "

Brena
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:38 PM
Oy.. poor Aravane. :awww:

Nicolas
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:45 PM
Disowned her? Dude, it's not middle-age....
He is a freak, sould have been banned a long time ago....

ZODIAC
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:53 PM
these cultural issues are very delicate and Rezai has to be careful,in our area a young lady from a certain country was killed by her brother because she was not practicing their culture and was dating local boys.I wont mention the country but these are very sensitive issues in some cultures,soon she will be ostracised from the family..

debby
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:55 PM
Just wow.

:hug: Aravane. What a freak this Arslan :weirdo:

eck
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:57 PM
This reminds me just like that Harry Potter actress :o

Libertango
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:09 PM
I wish Aravane all the best through this difficult time. :hug:

Lighter
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:10 PM
Arsalan Rezaï left Australia when Aravane is still in Melbourne with her boyfriend.

Arsalan Rezaï has two personnalities :
- he can be a charming man
- From time and time, he's becoming mad Arsalan

Clearly in this case, he refused to see her daughter with a boyfriend. Dunno if boyfriend is australian, iranian or french. But Arsalan is before all a chiite muslim, someone very proud.....

Kipling
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:36 PM
From some twitters: French media reporting that Arsalan Rezai "disowned" his daughter Aravane, physically attacked her, and threatened her boyfriend.


Wow. I hope this isn't true. Poor Aravane. I feel so bad for her.

On the other hand, she is now 23, she made $700,000 US at Madrid alone last year, and her father is a mechanic, so while she probably owes it to herself to politely listen to his concerns, she has a right to live her life however she chooses, and insist that if he wishes to remain part of her life in any way, he will respect her and her wishes.

Lighter
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:45 PM
Wow. I hope this isn't true. Poor Aravane. I feel so bad for her.

On the other hand, she is now 23, she made $700,000 US at Madrid alone last year, and her father is a mechanic, so while she probably owes it to herself to politely listen to his concerns, she has a right to live her life however she chooses, and insist that if he wishes to remain part of her life in any way, he will respect her and her wishes.Arsalan is mechanic in France. But he was graduated in University in Iran. That's why he refuses to be only considered as a mechanic.

Vartan
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:49 PM
Arsalan is mechanic in France. But he was graduated in University in Iran. That's why he refuses to be only considered as a mechanic.

:rolleyes: someone should pop his bubble.

it-girl
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:51 PM
It is good that they protect the players like this.

Kipling
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:02 PM
Arsalan is mechanic in France. But he was graduated in University in Iran. That's why he refuses to be only considered as a mechanic.

My point was, she's the bread winner in the family now. She has leverage. And she should use that to to her advantage.

All of which is beside the point. Does anyone really think it is right to attack another person? Let alone your own daughter? She needs to be as far away from that as possible, and maybe, after some months or years of contemplating what he did and why it was wrong and therapy, then maybe they can reconcile.

I understand that's probably not the way it works in some cultures, but her actions clearly indicate that she wants something different than a "traditional" Muslim life. If her father loves her, he needs to put aside his religious convictions and put her welfare first. There are more humane ways of teaching values.

Leading by example is one that usually works pretty well for most parents.

Hakapeszi
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:18 PM
http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=267501

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=239606

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=285595

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=285637

Vartan
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:21 PM
Didn't know about all the cases...

auntie janie
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:05 PM
Police investigating Rezai family incident

24 January 2011, 13:48

Australian police are investigating an incident which led to a member of French player Aravane Rezai's family being banned from WTA events and which the tour described as a "serious safety matter".

"Police are investigating an alleged incident involving a 23-year-old woman on the 18th of January," a spokeswoman for Victoria police said on Monday.

"As the investigation is ongoing it would be inappropriate to comment further."

http://supersport.com/tennis/wta/news/110124/Police_investigating_Rezai_family_incident

hablo
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:50 PM
From "Le Parisien" street edition today :
Aravane Rezaî is still in Melbourne. She has been seen with her boyfriend, walking along shops. But her father, before R1, didn't accept this new relation. Aravane had a strong altercation with her father.

French media reporting that Arsalan Rezai "disowned" his daughter, physically attacked her, and threatened her bf

I don't have any link for this, all coming from twitter.

From some twitters: French media reporting that Arsalan Rezai "disowned" his daughter Aravane, physically attacked her, and threatened her boyfriend.

The messege from WTA to Lequipe.fr:

"The health and welfare of our players are the No. 1 priority of the WTA. A serious incident was reported to us that led us to suspend for an indefinite period of a member of the family of Aravane Rezai. An investigation was conducted. "

Arsalan Rezaï left Australia when Aravane is still in Melbourne with her boyfriend.

Arsalan Rezaï has two personnalities :
- he can be a charming man
- From time and time, he's becoming mad Arsalan

Clearly in this case, he refused to see her daughter with a boyfriend. Dunno if boyfriend is australian, iranian or french. But Arsalan is before all a chiite muslim, someone very proud.....

I'm glad the WTA stepped in... These situations can get scary. I hate reading in the news about honor killings.... :unsure:

Kipling
Jan 24th, 2011, 03:56 PM
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/the-father-of-french-player-aravane-rezai-has-been-banned-indefinitely-by-wta/story-fn79h9tu-1225993884046

Nothing really new here, but a good summation of the other stories to date.

Belmont Lad
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:01 PM
Poor thing. I wish her good speed with resolving these matters and taking control of her own life and freedom.

Stevecw
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:09 PM
That is terrible, poor Aravane :hug:
What a horrible father that guy is. She should lose all contact with a monster like that and get on with her own life and career. I thought by the way Aravane played something was wrong with her, reckoned it was an injury at the time but seems it was a lot more serious.

Hope all this means she can cut him out of her life and finally be free of the b@stard.

Melange
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:13 PM
I saw her practising late on day 2. Had no battery left to take photo. I was looking for the famous father but didnt see him.

Melange
Jan 24th, 2011, 04:13 PM
That is terrible, poor Aravane :hug:
What a horrible father that guy is. She should lose all contact with a monster like that and get on with her own life and career. I thought by the way Aravane played something was wrong with her, reckoned it was an injury at the time but seems it was a lot more serious.

Hope all this means she can cut him out of her like and finally be free of the b@stard.

As the Dokic saga shows, its not so easy for some of them to get away.

Lighter
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:52 PM
Aravane's boyfriend belongs to international tennis staff : ITF, tennis Europe, WTA or ATP

He's around 30 yrs old.

LINK : http://www.rmc.fr/editorial/144813/le-pere-daravane-rezai-sen-est-pris-a-sa-fille/

Jane Lane
Jan 24th, 2011, 06:02 PM
Effing wackjob. Poor Aravane :hug: really glad the WTA stepped in though; they have the resources, why not?

Zébulon
Jan 24th, 2011, 06:09 PM
I prefer her father being angry cause his 23 yo daughter is happy with the man than her father beating/hitting her. He'll have to calm down and accept that she's a woman, not a girl.

Zébulon
Jan 24th, 2011, 06:11 PM
Aww, i hadn't read about how he might have "phsyically attacked her", though :unsure:

Raiden
Jan 24th, 2011, 06:52 PM
Aravane should to split with her Dad forever, and she is older now than when Pierce, Dokic, Lucic... been in similar position. But I guess in general for Iranian young lady it is always harder decision because whole family is traditionally on father sideExactly. Everybody keeps saying she should leave her dad but it's not that simple for her since she's from a certain culture and background. She does have a Français passport so she has the protection of the state but even then, still she has to consider lots of other things like how it will affect her relationship with the rest of her family and relatives. What will happen at home, when she bumps into the person who is banned from approaching her at tennis grounds?

And what about outside home? What'll happen when/if she goes to the mosque and what not? You cant just snap your neck and wag your finger and tell everyone that you have kicked daddy to the curb and moved in with your "haram" boyfriend. You have to deal with a certain culture and therefore take many things into account like "family honor" and "chastity" and what not
.

Kipling
Jan 24th, 2011, 06:58 PM
Her current bio says she lives in Switzerland now. Not sure since when. Does the whole family live there now, or are they still in St. Etienne?

cosmoose
Jan 24th, 2011, 11:59 PM
does banned mean that her father can not enter the stadium premise?

or just that he is barred from locker room, players lounge, player box etc. (ie he can still buy admission ticket)

Lighter
Jan 25th, 2011, 09:25 AM
No fed cup for Aravane : http://www.eurosport.fr/tennis/fed-cup-2/2011/rezai-forfait_sto2637948/flashnews.shtml

debby
Jan 25th, 2011, 10:54 AM
Rezai won't play GDF Open de France and Fed Cup.

http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/breves2011/20110125_110740_rezai-forfait.html

According to L'équipe, Rezai gave some informations : medias have exaggerated that thing with her father, nothing had happened, she is only disappointed by her results lately. She admits it happens to disagree with her family but it is way too important for her, so it is ok now.
Also, she says she wants to work on her career, to put some adjustements for work... She wants to train, and asks us to leave them (Aravane and her family) alone.

Juju Nostalgique
Jan 25th, 2011, 11:40 AM
Mr. Damir Rezai? :rolls:

doujyr
Jan 25th, 2011, 12:16 PM
It is worrying. It's rather pathetic to see how some people here keep whining about trivial matters like Petkovic's dance or Wozniacki's bogus kangaroo story while something like this is happening to a tennis player...

I resent the implication that people who might joke on those matters do not care about something like this, and that is what you are clearly implying.

Spiritof42
Jan 25th, 2011, 06:16 PM
I resent the implication that people who might joke on those matters do not care about something like this, and that is what you are clearly implying.
No, I was "implying" that when something like this happens, it makes the copious amounts of whining and heated debate over (very) petty things going on in this forum on a daily basis appear even more ridiculous than usual.

And in case you didn't notice, even in a serious thread like this one, some posters have seen fit to make jokes (or respond to them). Strange way of showing that they "care".

lilygotsilly
Feb 1st, 2011, 03:33 PM
I CANT READ ALL THESE LINKS IN FRENCH!!

Im taking a wild guess that a lot of this has to do with her slump after peaking before last year's FO. That huge match she played that went on into the night then lost seemed to start a downward spiral to the point where everyone's angry in her camp including herself. Im sure everything's being questioned from her on court training to her off court behavior. I dont know anything about what she's doing off court but I have been watching Rezai closely starting after the US open to see what I could find ON Court. Here's what I see:

A powerful ground stroker without the body to sustain the power, thus creating a lot of tension in tight and/or long matches leading to errors that cost her the match. She loses a lot of close matches be it an exhibition in Hong Kong or a major event like the AO. I really feel she is too one dimensional (or I guess 2 dimensional if you add her surprisingly good retrieving skills) for what she offers physically - a medium height player who's not the most fit with her body. She is going to wear down and she is already getting the maximum power from that 5'7 body of hers. If she was built like Serena or even a Safarova this would be different.

What she does have is underrated feet! She should use her movement more to be aggressive , like Davydenko learned, take the ball early , move the opponent around , construct points instead of just ball bashing all the time AND IMPROVE HER NET PLAY! And for god's sake develop a plan B! If she has other offensive schemes to rely on besides ball bashing then she can fall back to other attack modes and actually feel confident in these close matches and win some.. And maybe a different training method to knock off some extra weight and have a little more stamina for her power game late in matches.

Why am I saying all of this?? Because I think this is the crux of what is happening. I think she DOES need some new coaching and the PARENT needs to move out of the way. That's parental LOVE -- not the controlling crap that's hurting the child. I think in the case of the Williams and so many others (Wozniacki maybe too ) the parents do a FANTASTIC job of teaching their kids and getting them prepared as youngsters BUT DONT KNOW WHEN TO LET GO AND GET OUT OF THE WAY. It must not be easy and it seems worse for the women on tour than the men. ITs a shame , because sometimes we simply cant see players achieving to their potential because of Parents that hang on and wont let go.