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Tennisation
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:21 AM
She's my Lena D replacement and has the game to do it but damn I'm tired of waiting. What is going with her? I hope she's not another Nicole Vaidisova.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:22 AM
She doesnt have a serve nor does she have the fitness required for a grinder.

Mynarco
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:23 AM
Her serve is woeful. Last year her serve wasn't that bad against serena, this year her serve is just regressing

bukaj
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:24 AM
She hasnt power!!! :tape::tape: its fine, that she can hit the ball clear,but when she plays against players with more power,she can do anything...and that second serve is terrible,from beginnig of the game she is under press.

Smitten
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:26 AM
She's my Lena D replacement and has the game to do it but damn I'm tired of waiting. What is going with her? I hope she's not another Nicole Vaidisova.

Vaidisova actually had weapons that could take over a match.

Azarenka is just at the mercy of her opponents. She can't hurt anyone good.

BlueTrees
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:27 AM
She was not impressive today..

Jane Lane
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:29 AM
LMFAO. Guys she lost to an opponent who, when on as she was today, can beat anyone. She's not dead.

Monzanator
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:30 AM
She's one of the best returners on tour (in fact topped the return stats back in 2009). You gotta feel her mind games still prevent her from making the ultimate break through as currently it's more then obvious the Miami win was a false dawn...

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:32 AM
She doesn't have the weapons. That forehand is just not good enough.

miffedmax
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:32 AM
She's my Lena D replacement and has the game to do it but damn I'm tired of waiting. What is going with her? I hope she's not another Nicole Vaidisova.

To paraphrase Jefferson on Franklin, No one replaces Lena D., Vika merely succeeds her as your favorite player. (Mine, too, as it happens).

But yes, Na was on fire tonight. Vika will have some other chances.

Jane Lane
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:34 AM
Oh and by the way, her fastest serve and average first and second serve seeds tonight were faster than Na's. And she had a higher percentage. I wouldn't call that useless.

AcesHigh
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:34 AM
Her game pales in comparison to Elena D. I suggest finding another replacement. She should be a good 10-15 player though.

LUVMIRZA
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:34 AM
She will.

hurricanejeanne
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:34 AM
LMFAO. Guys she lost to an opponent who, when on as she was today, can beat anyone. She's not dead.

Say it again. People are acting like Vika is a fucking random scrub pusher now. Na was on fire today, there was nothing she, or anyone else, could do.

I don't know if Vika will ever "break through" but her career isn't awful. She's won some titles, beaten some big names and she's progressed at a pretty decent rate. I'd rather her be a late bloomer than peak early and flame out young a la Vaidisova.

dybbuk
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:37 AM
I'm starting to doubt it. She's still stuck in a kind of no man's zone between being an effective aggressive baseliner and being a consistent defensive-minded one. She's not big or strong enough for the former, but she's not fast enough for the latter either. If she really wants to win a Slam she needs to trim the extra fat still on her and bulk up to develop a point ending groundstroke or two. The sad part is I'm not sure she wants it badly enough to go through the trouble of all this. I would really like her to maximize her potential.

Jane Lane
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:37 AM
Say it again. People are acting like Vika is a fucking random scrub pusher now. Na was on fire today, there was nothing she, or anyone else, could do.

I don't know if Vika will ever "break through" but her career isn't awful. She's won some titles, beaten some big names and she's progressed at a pretty decent rate. I'd rather her be a late bloomer than peak early and flame out young a la Vaidisova.

This. The only place she has weapons now is in the sack with Radek.

it-girl
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:37 AM
She is going to have to improve her game in every category. She doesn't have enough weapons to hurt the players that are lurking towards the end of a grand slam. Her power is overrated & it really showed today. She has the spirit but her game is not strong enough yet. Hopefully she can improve.

ExXotikal
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:38 AM
She needs some luck IMO. She should have reached a GS SF by now but she eitheir runs into the hottest player or feels sick when it's not the case. She always draws a tough customer in the R16 or QF no matter what her current ranking is.
For instance she was playing some bad ass tennis in RG 09 and she had to run into Safina. She was playing some mean ass tennis in the latest 2 OZ and well, you know. Same can be said about Wimbledon in 09.
She barely has the opportunity to REALLY get her feet wet like Wozniacki often has had for instance (she had some cakewalk draws when she and Vika were ranked at the same position).
It's like Radwanska who always draws someone she can't beat in the QF while some other lower ranked broad draws the likes of Peer or Vickmayer.

colt13
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:38 AM
Depends on what you consider a breaktrough. She is the Nalbandian/Tsonga of the WTA. And they have been to slam finals. Similar in the fact that they have the talent to beat anyone, but have durability problems, and come up flat in big matches more often than they should.

Li was just better today.

cellophane
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:40 AM
Say it again. People are acting like Vika is a fucking random scrub pusher now. Na was on fire today, there was nothing she, or anyone else, could do.

I disagree. Na was impressive, but a) Azarenka was hitting everything in the zone for Na b)Azarenka's defending just isn't the caliber of a Clijsters for example and Na is a better ballstriker, so trying to hit with Na was just pointless.

LUVMIRZA
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:41 AM
Vika was fiestly in the last two AOs but this year from the beginning of the tournie she was not impressive. I guess she needs to change coach and get a one who could help to improve her serve and forehand:shrug:

Jajaloo
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:44 AM
Umm, she played a slam match where didn't drop her ass dead right on the court, so I'd say she's getting better. Baby steps.

Noctis
Jan 23rd, 2011, 02:45 AM
She has Advantages and weakness

Advantages

- Able to seem to overpower weaker opponents
-Hits deep good returner
-Able to beat opponets who can't move too well like Bartoli or Stosur who can't defend well aswell
-Mentally Good enough to beat average players

Weakness
-Collapse against top players
- Weak serve.
- her power is not that strong if she faces bigger hitters like Kvitova or Na
- Her fh and bh get jammed if her opponents hit withs Angles and width like Na or Kim
- She doesn't have alot of varieties
- Her attitude is bad
- Her defense needs working
-She need a brain aswell,Ball bashing only works well against opponents with less power

justineheninfan
Jan 23rd, 2011, 03:14 AM
People overrate her based on her so called near wins over Serena at the last 2 Australians. Which is silly logic since last years Australian Open Serena played her worst tennis to the point she was down 6-4, 4-0 and wasnt she down break points to go down 5-0 too? Yet Serena was able to turn it around and come back from that huge deficit simply by starting to play great with absolutely no help from Azarenka. While I know Serena is rightfully known as the queen of comebacks, vs alot of the really good players there would be no way for her to come back from that far behind without some choking on their part. Yet Azarenka did not choke in the least, in fact continued to play her very best, and Serena still came back from that huge deficit and from playing her worst tennis for over an hour. That IMO if anything is more a further example of Azarenka's limited abilities as a top player than anything else. I always laughed hard at the people who said Azarenka would have won the last 2 Australians if not for Serena or if she had beaten Serena. Today is emphatic proof how wrong that suggestion always was.

She is at best just a run of the mill 10-15 range player right now What are her weapons. She hits pretty well but isnt one of the biggest hitters. She moves decently but isnt one of the best movers or defenders. Her serve isnt any good, and she doesnt come to net much. She is pretty consistent but she isnt a backboard like Wozniacki. She isnt one of the smartest players. So what would allow her to go past the point she is now with her current game? Only major improvements which she is young enough and talented enough to do, so time to get going and start doing it now.

I thought she showed huge potential in the first half of 2008 but she has plateaued and even regressed ever since.

Roookie
Jan 23rd, 2011, 03:33 AM
So much about being unlucky to draw Serena at the last 3 Australian Opens otherwise "nobody else would have stopped her" :tape:

justineheninfan
Jan 23rd, 2011, 03:36 AM
So much about being unlucky to draw Serena at the last 3 Australian Opens otherwise "nobody else would have stopped her" :tape:

Yeah what a joke that was. If she had taken Serena out in 2009 she would have probably lost to Kuznetsova next round, and the idea she could have beaten Serena, Kuznetsova, Dementieva, and Safina all in a row to win the title is insane. She has never come close to a run of victories over top players like that. She could have beaten 2 of those 4 at most, definitely not 4 or even 3. And in 2010 well while last year was different who is going to say she would have even beaten Li Na in the semis in hindsight, let alone Henin in the final.

justineheninfan
Jan 23rd, 2011, 03:46 AM
She needs some luck IMO. She should have reached a GS SF by now but she eitheir runs into the hottest player or feels sick when it's not the case. She always draws a tough customer in the R16 or QF no matter what her current ranking is.
For instance she was playing some bad ass tennis in RG 09 and she had to run into Safina. She was playing some mean ass tennis in the latest 2 OZ and well, you know. Same can be said about Wimbledon in 09.
She barely has the opportunity to REALLY get her feet wet like Wozniacki often has had for instance (she had some cakewalk draws when she and Vika were ranked at the same position).
It's like Radwanska who always draws someone she can't beat in the QF while some other lower ranked broad draws the likes of Peer or Vickmayer.

Well based on the last 2 years she cant beat any of Serena, Safina, Schiavone, Dulko (0-2 in slams), or Li Na in slams so what would be a good draw for her? There are alot of players as good or better than most of those girls. Kvitova also blasted her away at Wimbledon last year. She also wouldnt ever be likely to beat Wozniacki, Clijsters, Kuznetsova, Henin, Sharapova, Venus, Zvonareva, Schiavone in slams if she played them. I mean she could post a win over any of those on rare occasion in a slam, but would right now be the underdog to all of them, and probably some others I am missing too. What are her biggest wins in a slam? A nearly retired Mauresmo, a badly slumping Ivanovic, Zvonareva (not #2 in the World Vera), and Petrova. Decent, but nothing great.

And Wozniacki is better than Azarenka right now. Check out their head to head. Being a pusher with incredible defense and consistency who people hate to watch is still more effective than a cross between a B-level power player and B-level defender with a weak serve as Azarenka is.

Dominika23
Jan 23rd, 2011, 04:25 AM
Say it again. People are acting like Vika is a fucking random scrub pusher now. Na was on fire today, there was nothing she, or anyone else, could do.

I don't know if Vika will ever "break through" but her career isn't awful. She's won some titles, beaten some big names and she's progressed at a pretty decent rate. I'd rather her be a late bloomer than peak early and flame out young a la Vaidisova.

thank u for breaking it down for everyone because people make it seem vika is a fluke vika is still very young @ 21 and has 5 title and has beating big name players (which she still can do) so yeah i agree with u all the way:worship::worship:

Pops Maellard
Jan 23rd, 2011, 04:26 AM
No. She's not that good.

Cp6uja
Jan 23rd, 2011, 04:34 AM
Victoria Azarenka: Will she ever breakthrough?
Yep... in 2009 :shrug:

Her current starting position for upcoming post-Williams/post-Belgians era seems very good to me. Little bit older generation (Maria, Ana, Sharapova, Jankovic, Safina, Sveta) is in slump and out of younger players only Wozniacki is currently ahead Vika. This AO is big disappointment for hers no doubt, but I don't see any reason for panic.

azinna
Jan 23rd, 2011, 04:37 AM
She did already.

moby
Jan 23rd, 2011, 04:44 AM
She did already.:hysteric:

Temperenka
Jan 23rd, 2011, 07:09 AM
I hope so. :sobbing:

Setsuna.
Jan 23rd, 2011, 07:18 AM
She did already.

This.She is not that good in the first place.She's overrated.I can even see Kvitova and Pavly have a better career than her.

tennisbum79
Jan 23rd, 2011, 09:17 AM
She's my Lena D replacement and has the game to do it but damn I'm tired of waiting. What is going with her? I hope she's not another Nicole Vaidisova.

You must not mind self-inflicted pain.

To be fair, there have been few circumatances out of her control that contributed to ending her run at GS a few times

Stevecw
Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:22 AM
This.She is not that good in the first place.She's overrated.I can even see Kvitova and Pavly have a better career than her.

I agree, she is way overated. She just does not have to game or the mentality to break through and win a slam. Needs to improve everything really, especially that terrible serve.

A couple of years ago it looked like she was going to be the next big thing, but really has fallen back since then instead of improving. She might even keep on getting worse :)

jefrilibra
Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:48 AM
She already broke through. Now she just breaks down!

Raiden
Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:59 AM
Victoria Azarenka: Will she ever breakthrough?Break through the sound barrier? Yes she will

BlueTrees
Feb 19th, 2012, 06:35 PM
I think so. :wavey: