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spiceboy
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:34 AM
Quite a monologue from Kim about the world #1 :lol:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKL3E7CK0CY20110120?pageNumber=1

INTERVIEW-Tennis-Wozniacki must be smart to realise potential -Clijsters


By Alastair Himmer
MELBOURNE | Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:56am GMT


MELBOURNE Jan 20 (Reuters) - World number one Caroline Wozniacki must make smarter choices if the young Dane is to vindicate her ranking with a first grand slam title, Kim Clijsters says.

Belgian Clijsters, who reached the top of women's tennis in 2003 before making her grand slam breakthrough, believes the 20-year-old needs to cut down on her punishing schedule.

Wozniacki has come under pressure in the media for reaching the top ranking without winning a grand slam title.

"Somebody will always be targeted for that," Clijsters told Reuters in an interview at the Australian Open On Thursday.

"Is it unfair? It's not something that happens out of the blue or that's only her. I was in the same situation. I was younger than Caroline probably and you have to deal with it!"

Clijsters recalled former number one Dinara Safina came in for similar criticism, while on the men's side Marcelo Rios felt the heat.

"The only thing that worries me with her is that she plays so many tournaments," said the third seed after crushing Spain's Carla Suarez Navarro 6-1 6-3 to reach the third round.

"I wonder when it's really needed and when she needs to play her best that maybe she can't always produce."

Wozniacki played 22 tournaments, winning six, in 2010, double the number Clijsters played, but her best grand slam result to date was a semi-final at last year's U.S. Open.

Clijsters, who won that tournament to win her third grand slam title, added: "So I wonder maybe it's not the smartest choice (to play so many events).
"You need to peak and make goals and not worry about money or points here and there. But it will happen. She's young, she'll learn."

Showered and perched on a chair in her tracksuit in the bowels of Rod Laver Arena, Clijsters had some sympathy for Wozniacki's position.


MEDIA PRESSURE

"Dealing with that pressure is not always that easy," said the 27-year-old. "After a while you start doubting yourself just because of what you have to answer in the media.

"I do feel that (she's) very close. She hasn't been on the tour for many years and she's already at number one.
"She will gradually grow into that role where she's on top of the women's game and winning grand slams, or a very big contender."

Clijsters looks the player mostly capable of blocking Wozniacki's path to a maiden slam, although the Dane has so far kept the wolves at bay with some clinical tennis in Melbourne.

"I know if I play close to my best I can beat anybody but saying that is a lot easier than obviously doing it," the 2004 Melbourne finalist said of her own form.
"I know from the U.S. Open that is takes a lot out of you winning seven matches. I've lost matches where I've felt that I was playing well -- anything can happen.

"I went to bed with (Roger) Federer two sets to love up last night. You never know what can happen."
Federer needed five sets to see off Frenchman Gilles Simon.


'MORE TO LIFE'

Clijsters, who won two of her major crowns after returning to the women's game in 2009 following a two-year-break, said she had learned to cherish her grand slam appearances.

"A lot of times I think back on Wimbledon, walking in there for the first time as a junior and I still think of those kinds of emotions. I depend a lot on them," she said.
"Little details that you remember. It could even be the little cracks of a door, different sounds of doors or locker rooms, just little things."

Clijsters, who gave birth to her first daughter Jada in February 2008, added: "I've been away a few years. I didn't think about tennis in those two years.
"You grow as a person and you learn more about yourself. Sometimes I see girls cry after a match. Okay, I get disappointed too but there's more to life for sure."

Pops Maellard
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:36 AM
Duh. Kim learned the hard way what whoring up too many tournaments does.

debby
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:36 AM
No, Kim was not younger, she was 20 as well.
Anyway, expected. She was #1 while the winner of RG and USO '03 was #2 :tape: :help:
And ROFLMAO @ "The only thing that worries me with her is that she plays so many tournaments," said the third seed after crushing Spain's Carla Suarez Navarro 6-1 6-3 to reach the third round.

"I wonder when it's really needed and when she needs to play her best that maybe she can't always produce."

What a hypocrite, she was playing around 25 tournament per year at her age as well :lol:

auntie janie
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:38 AM
"I went to bed with (Roger) Federer ..."

:eek: That threw me for a minute!

ElusiveChanteuse
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:39 AM
Wozniacki played 22 tournaments, winning six, in 2010, double the number Clijsters played, but her best grand slam result to date was a semi-final at last year's U.S. Open.

Or does it mean the past 1 year?:shrug:

Sergius
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:40 AM
No, Kim was not younger, she was 20 as well.
Anyway, expected. She was #1 while the winner of RG and USO '03 was #2 :tape: :help:
And ROFLMAO @ "The only thing that worries me with her is that she plays so many tournaments," said the third seed after crushing Spain's Carla Suarez Navarro 6-1 6-3 to reach the third round.

"I wonder when it's really needed and when she needs to play her best that maybe she can't always produce."

What a hypocrite, she was playing around 25 tournament per year at her age as well :lol:

So what, she also had lots of injuries mostly due to it :shrug:

spiceboy
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:41 AM
What a hypocrite, she was playing around 25 tournament per year at her age as well :lol:

Maybe she's talking from experience...how many GS did she win when playing that much? I see nothing wrong in her words. Maybe being so open with the media about it. She was really talkative yesterday after this and the Woodbridge stuff :lol:

Lucemferre
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:42 AM
"I went to bed with (Roger) Federer ..."

:eek: That threw me for a minute!

Clijsters is showing her real character!!111 Humiliating the reporter in public and now this cheating scandal :eek:

LightsOut!
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:42 AM
When I almost finished, I read: "I went to bed with Roger Federer" and then I thought like: what??? but then I got it :haha:

debby
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:44 AM
"I went to bed with (Roger) Federer ..."

:eek: That threw me for a minute!

Hahahaha exactly what I thought !

So what, she also had lots of injuries mostly due to it :shrug:

Yeah but she should understand Caro as well ^^ But it's funny to read things like that because we all know what she did in 2003 :p

Maybe she's talking from experience...how many GS did she win when playing that much? I see nothing wrong in her words. Maybe being so open with the media about it. She was really talkative yesterday after this and the Woodbridge stuff :lol:

I know ^^ But it's funny to read things like that, especially that she doesn't talk about her own experience :p

¤CharlDa¤
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Its exactly what Kim said: It worries me that she plays a lot, but she'll learn. She is the best one to talk about it, as she was going exactly the same thing, plus doubles full time. I dont see any hyprocrisy there :S

Kim probably learnt that from the Williams Sisters. Its crazy how much criticism they were getting from doing that in the early 2000s, and now everyone is praising their way of doing it.

Matt01
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:44 AM
No, Kim was not younger, she was 20 as well.
Anyway, expected. She was #1 while the winner of RG and USO '03 was #2 :tape: :help:
And ROFLMAO @ "The only thing that worries me with her is that she plays so many tournaments," said the third seed after crushing Spain's Carla Suarez Navarro 6-1 6-3 to reach the third round.

"I wonder when it's really needed and when she needs to play her best that maybe she can't always produce."

What a hypocrite, she was playing around 25 tournament per year at her age as well :lol:


And as a results she got injured and retired at a young age.
Maybe she hopes that Caro doesn't make the same mistakes. She's right that she needs to cut down her number of tournaments.

laurie
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:47 AM
No, Kim was not younger, she was 20 as well.
Anyway, expected. She was #1 while the winner of RG and USO '03 was #2 :tape: :help:
And ROFLMAO @ "The only thing that worries me with her is that she plays so many tournaments," said the third seed after crushing Spain's Carla Suarez Navarro 6-1 6-3 to reach the third round.

"I wonder when it's really needed and when she needs to play her best that maybe she can't always produce."

What a hypocrite, she was playing around 25 tournament per year at her age as well :lol:

That's not being a hyprocrite. Kim is saying that she learned from that and she hopes Wozniacki will learn as well.

Apoleb
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:48 AM
Kim, you dumbass, the only reason she's at number 1 is because she plays so many tournaments. It's certainly not her GS record.

Or maybe that's evil Kim playing with Caro's mind and plotting to take that #1 spot.

Kworb
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:48 AM
"You grow as a person and you learn more about yourself. Sometimes I see girls cry after a match. Okay, I get disappointed too but there's more to life for sure."
Easy to say with $100 million in the bank.

Shinjiro
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:49 AM
"I went to bed with (Roger) Federer ..."

:eek: That threw me for a minute!

Me too – and as they say, what has been read...

Claycourter
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:51 AM
Its exactly what Kim said: It worries me that she plays a lot, but she'll learn. She is the best one to talk about it, as she was going exactly the same thing, plus doubles full time. I dont see any hyprocrisy there :S

Kim probably learnt that from the Williams Sisters. Its crazy how much criticism they were getting from doing that in the early 2000s, and now everyone is praising their way of doing it.

Everyone? Not really. It's because of Williams sisters neglecting tournaments other than slams we've had absolute clowns @ #1 ranking. Thanks to them, WTA #1 means nothing. It had some intergrity in mid 2000's because Henin cared to maintain it, but right now it's laughable. A true champion wins slams AND does well in smaller tournaments to keep #1 like Federer or Nadal. Tanking smaller events in favor of slams is embarrassment to the sport and a reason why recent WTA #1's are a laughing stock.

Gawain
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:52 AM
No, Kim was not younger, she was 20 as well.
Anyway, expected. She was #1 while the winner of RG and USO '03 was #2 :tape: :help:
And ROFLMAO @ "The only thing that worries me with her is that she plays so many tournaments," said the third seed after crushing Spain's Carla Suarez Navarro 6-1 6-3 to reach the third round.

"I wonder when it's really needed and when she needs to play her best that maybe she can't always produce."

What a hypocrite, she was playing around 25 tournament per year at her age as well :lol:

Thats right you tell the world what a hypocrite Fiona is.
Soon the media will turn against her and the crowd will start booing her at slams. :zzz:

Raiden
Jan 20th, 2011, 12:05 PM
What a hypocrite, she was playing around 25 tournament per year at her age as well :lol:What's hypocrisy got to do with anything? In fact the opposite: Kim is pointing out the risks and pitfalls involved with what Caro is doing precisely out of her own experience that eventually led to her taking a sabbatical.

Evidement tu ne comprendez pas beaucoup anglais, debby
.

goldenlox
Jan 20th, 2011, 12:12 PM
A young player wants to play. Caro thinks she is improving while she plays.
The big deal for Kim is that she doesnt have to beat Justine, Serena Venus of 2002,3 to win a major now.

Raiden
Jan 20th, 2011, 12:15 PM
"I went to bed with (Roger) Federer ..."

That threw me for a minute!Ditto :lol:

Protoss
Jan 20th, 2011, 12:19 PM
20 or so tournaments seems ok to me for a 20 year old. If she were in her late 20s it might not be such a good idea of course.

Caro has no interest in playing a part-timers schedule.

Carotastrophe
Jan 20th, 2011, 12:20 PM
"I went to bed with (Roger) Federer ..."

:eek: That threw me for a minute!

me too :tears:

Matt01
Jan 20th, 2011, 12:22 PM
20 or so tournaments seems ok to me for a 20 year old. If she were in her late 20s it might not be such a good idea of course.

Caro has no interest in playing a part-timers schedule.


22 tournaments (if that number is correct) is too much for a Number One Player. She shouldn't play more than 18-19 tournaments at most. 16-17 tournaments would be better IMO.

it-girl
Jan 20th, 2011, 12:23 PM
Moma Kim.

Kuti Kis&Monica
Jan 20th, 2011, 12:29 PM
Quote:
"You grow as a person and you learn more about yourself. Sometimes I see girls cry after a match. Okay, I get disappointed too but there's more to life for sure."

Easy to say with $100 million in the bank.

+1

debby
Jan 20th, 2011, 12:37 PM
Thats right you tell the world what a hypocrite Fiona is.
Soon the media will turn against her and the crowd will start booing her at slams. :zzz:

Lol you are one of the few insecure Kim fans :lol:

What's hypocrisy got to do with anything? In fact the opposite: Kim is pointing out the risks and pitfalls involved with what Caro is doing precisely out of her own experience that eventually led to her taking a sabbatical.

Evidement tu ne comprendez pas beaucoup anglais, debby
.

She should understand why Caro is doing that actually. Despite her injuries, she kept whoring tournaments until her retirement. When she came back, she plays a part time schedule only because she has a family. That's different.

And I am sure I understand better english than you speak french :tape: "tu ne comprends pas" instead of "tu ne comprendez pas"

20 or so tournaments seems ok to me for a 20 year old. If she were in her late 20s it might not be such a good idea of course.

Caro has no interest in playing a part-timers schedule.

Spot on ! And Caro is very healthy, so I don't see what is wrong.

And I agree with Claycourter, as much as the WS are great players, because of them, #1 position is now laughable.

BlameSerena
Jan 20th, 2011, 12:38 PM
I feel like that's real talk :shrug:. Don't care for her atall but I think she is just speaking from experience here and nothing is wrong with that. Doesn't mean she's right/wrong. Everyone has to find their own way and do what works for them.

shap_half
Jan 20th, 2011, 01:12 PM
Playing roughly 20 tournaments is not really that extreme for someone still developing her game. The only reason Caroline is getting attention for it is because she's the number 1 player with no slam. If she were the number 17 player in the world, people wouldn't say a word about how many tournaments she plays.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 20th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Ofcourse she wont have to worry about money! I dont see Piotr letting her marry a househusband.

harloo
Jan 20th, 2011, 01:42 PM
Maybe Kim should just worry about herself. At one point she was also criticized for playing numerous tournaments and collecting a bunch of dough. Caroline will figure it out herself.

cellophane
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:02 PM
Lol you are one of the few insecure Kim fans :lol:

Oh please... you made up her being a hypocrite, even though she never actually criticized Wozniacki ("Caroline is a horrible person for playing so many tournaments")...she was in the same position before and played lots of tournaments so she's saying what she should have done herself


She should understand why Caro is doing that actually. Despite her injuries, she kept whoring tournaments until her retirement. When she came back, she plays a part time schedule only because she has a family. That's different.ZZZZZZ. You must be bored to try and find something wrong with what she said. Don't know why even bother explaining it... it's pretty obvious to everyone who isn't trying to fish for something negative

But anyways, you just like to make those kind of posts and wait for a reaction :lol:

¤CharlDa¤
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:07 PM
Everyone? Not really. It's because of Williams sisters neglecting tournaments other than slams we've had absolute clowns @ #1 ranking. Thanks to them, WTA #1 means nothing. It had some intergrity in mid 2000's because Henin cared to maintain it, but right now it's laughable. A true champion wins slams AND does well in smaller tournaments to keep #1 like Federer or Nadal. Tanking smaller events in favor of slams is embarrassment to the sport and a reason why recent WTA #1's are a laughing stock.

BlaBlaBla, blame the Williams for a Tour that sucks, Justine is fabulous and the best ever. U've been here for 4 months and your posts get predictable already.

brent-o
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:17 PM
Mama Kim's been dishing out the advice lately. First Safina, now Caro lol

Claycourter
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:19 PM
BlaBlaBla, blame the Williams for a Tour that sucks, Justine is fabulous and the best ever. U've been here for 4 months and your posts get predictable already.

:weirdo:

Re-read the post before whining. What I said was 100% accurate. WS never seemed to care about #1 rank like Justine did, whether or not the tour sucks is irrelevant. Serena has 13 slams and pathetic 37 titles, which shows how much effort she put in into smaller events, allowing mugs like Safina to capture #1 rank and throw a negative shadow over the whole WTA ranking system. She should have 60+ titles by now with her slam record. A true champion cares about all facets of the game, not just 4 events per year. Justine honored that unwritten rule, by playing well in smaller events and holding #1 as long as possible, keeping its prestiege and denying mugs from attaining it. Being world #1 should be HUGE, like on ATP tour. Right now on WTA it's a complete joke and a farce. It's too bad the days of honorable champions like Steffi Graf, who would rather die than tank a match, are long past us.

ZODIAC
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:26 PM
she should be more worried about her own life and her own choices.I am sure Caro has a good team around her and her parents were former atheletes and knows whats best for her.Some players need a lot of matches to do well and others like Serena dont need a lot of matches to do well.Why did she have to go public about her opinion of Caro,she could have bee diplomatic and talked to her in private if she really has her interests at heart.
Caro is still very young and she seems to be level headed,I think she can learn a lot from the sisters than from Kim.They have managed their careers well to last this long in a hostile environment...and can learn to win from true champions like Serena and Venus.
Kim is fickle remember she had farewell parties at every event vowing never to comeback,only to change her mind 18months later.I would trust Venus and Serena s advice because they never gave up and are sticking on till the end.I think Kim is miffed because Caro mentioned that Serena is a very good friend of hers and the most successful youngsters like Azarenka and Caro admire Serena.

debby
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:32 PM
Well, Kim changed her approach to tennis, let's admit it.

When she was playing a lot, she was on a cadency and it helped her to go deep into the tournaments, and when she was losing early or didn't play before a Slam, she was inconstant....
Now she plays less, is less injured but is more inconstant.... see that 6-0 6-1 loss to Petrova.... that loss to Zvonareva at Wimbledon.... But that is okay because the level of the field has dropped, so she can still win Slams despite not being streaky.

Maybe Caro prefers to play a lot to get her own rhythm...

Claycourter
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:37 PM
Well, Kim changed her approach to tennis, let's admit it.

When she was playing a lot, she was on a cadency and it helped her to go deep into the tournaments, and when she was losing early or didn't play before a Slam, she was inconstant....
Now she plays less, is less injured but is more inconstant.... see that 6-0 6-1 loss to Petrova.... that loss to Zvonareva at Wimbledon.... But that is okay because the level of the field has dropped, so she can still win Slams despite not being streaky.

Maybe Caro prefers to play a lot to get her own rhythm...

Fiona lost those matches not because she's inconsistent. She lost them because any flat striker/big server can blow her off court and she lost in Wimby because she's a garbage grass courter with no serve, no slice and no net game.

duhcity
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:39 PM
You don't just come onto the tour doing whatever the fuck you want. If you want to flip off the WTA and their requirements, then you have to earn that right. Not just some random scrub who thinks they can play as much as Kim and Serena does and gets by. You play until you have a solid reputation, and then fuck off the calender and do whatever you want

WonderfulLee
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:39 PM
:weirdo:

Re-read the post before whining. What I said was 100% accurate. WS never seemed to care about #1 rank like Justine did, whether or not the tour sucks is irrelevant. Serena has 13 slams and pathetic 37 titles, which shows how much effort she put in into smaller events, allowing mugs like Safina to capture #1 rank and throw a negative shadow over the whole WTA ranking system. She should have 60+ titles by now with her slam record. A true champion cares about all facets of the game, not just 4 events per year. Justine honored that unwritten rule, by playing well in smaller events and holding #1 as long as possible, keeping its prestiege and denying mugs from attaining it. Being world #1 should be HUGE, like on ATP tour. Right now on WTA it's a complete joke and a farce. It's too bad the days of honorable champions like Steffi Graf, who would rather die than tank a match, are long past us.


number one is joke now because Justine Henin!

if she didn't quit we will not have ivanovic, Jankovic or Safina holding the number one ranking!:lol:

AcesHigh
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:42 PM
I love Kim :)

And I think this is great, caring advice from someone who has been in a similar situation.

Anyway, for some idiotic reason, people here always forget that it's not how many tournaments you play.. it's how many matches you play.
Caro didn't go deep in all her tournaments last year so I don't think it was a big problem. However, as #1 you expect yourself to be in the late stages of each tournament and you should adjust your schedule accordingly.

In 2003, Kim only played 21 tournaments.. the problem was she reached 15 finals of those 21 tournaments. That's amazing but she had over 100 matches played in singles. She also reached at least 10 finals in doubles as well so you can only imagine the ton of matches she played.

ZODIAC
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:48 PM
she should first find a job for her mooching husband before she dishes out advice.

debby
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:52 PM
Fiona lost those matches not because she's inconsistent. She lost them because any flat striker/big server can blow her off court and she lost in Wimby because she's a garbage grass courter with no serve, no slice and no net game.

Let's not exaggerate. She is very talented, and can beat anyone. She beat Serena at the USO after all, and she is a big server, and is a flat striker... Sharapova is a flat striker as well and still lost to her.

she should first find a job for her mooching husband before she dishes out advice.

:spit: :haha:

Uranus
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:00 PM
What a hypocrite, she was playing around 25 tournament per year at her age as well :lol:
She isn't a hypocrite. She advises her, otherwise she wouldn't be telling the media. She's been there, playing so many tournaments, winning a lot of them, and making #1.
And in all honesty, I believe the only thing that prevented Kim from winning slams back then was Justine. She was a mental midget in finals, and especially against her.
Anyway Kim was and will always be a better player than Caro. The era during which she broke through was really tough, and she still won big tournaments incl. the YEC, defeating all the top players. Something Caro still hasn't achieved, in a far worse era.

Gawain
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:05 PM
she should first find a job for her mooching husband before she dishes out advice.


Some couples actually love spending time together.

But I can understand why a lot of men envy him. ;)

Uranus
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Btw, Kim is certainly not a big server. It's her weakest shot.

debby
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Some couples actually love spending time together.

But I can understand why a lot of men envy him. ;)

well he was a dull basketball player, Kim brings much more money than he does
so why bother playing :lol:

ZODIAC
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:16 PM
Some couples actually love spending time together.

But I can understand why a lot of men envy him. ;)yes they envy a man who has a wife working hard for him .He should be toiling for his family and not let his wife be the primary breadwinner...where is his manhood, pride or backbone...so Kim wears the pants in this household:help:.I hope he will not cheat on her while she is working hard to keep a roof over their heads.

Apoleb
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:25 PM
yes they envy a man who has a wife working hard for him .He should be toiling for his family and not let his wife be the primary breadwinner...where is his manhood, pride or backbone...so Kim wears the pants in this household:help:.I hope he will not cheat on her while she is working hard to keep a roof over their heads.

:sobbing:

debby
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:29 PM
yes they envy a man who has a wife working hard for him .He should be toiling for his family and not let his wife be the primary breadwinner...where is his manhood, pride or backbone...so Kim wears the pants in this household:help:.I hope he will not cheat on her while she is working hard to keep a roof over their heads.

:bigcry: Love you.

AcesHigh
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:31 PM
Wow, quatro, ignorant and sexist.
"Not let his wife be the primary breadwinner" smh. What is this? The 30s?

debby
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Wow, quatro, ignorant and sexist.
"Not let his wife be the primary breadwinner" smh. What is this? The 30s?

As sexist is that, it's true unfortunately for many guys. Even today.

Ingokoer
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:33 PM
Who is Fiona?

AcesHigh
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:34 PM
As sexist is that, it's true unfortunately for many guys. Even today.

That's pretty sad. Any man would be lucky to have a strong, successful, independent woman.
Congrats to Kim's husband for being supportive. Plus, I've heard he's a cool guy from some of my friends in New Jersey.

debby
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:35 PM
Who is Fiona?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FFp3iD5RaPE/RmVmFXt3IFI/AAAAAAAAAAk/L_WBviTLfhY/s320/Clijsters.jpg

debby
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:37 PM
That's pretty sad. Any man would be lucky to have a strong, successful, independent woman.
Congrats to Kim's husband for being supportive. Plus, I've heard he's a cool guy from some of my friends in New Jersey.

Indeed, but many guys like to think they are feeding their family and that their wife should stay at home to raise the kids... but things are getting better nowadays. I don't see why the guy should work and not his wife :help:

ZODIAC
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:51 PM
Wow, quatro, ignorant and sexist.
"Not let his wife be the primary breadwinner" smh. What is this? The 30s?I am gratefully to have a father who never lets my mother do hard work for him.He has a lot of pride and takes pride in providing for his family and still allowing my mother to be a woman.The roles in our family are clearly defined...no grey area ...what message are they senting to Jada,that a woman should work for her man while he watches football matches and play video games....I would understand if he was earning a living somewhere.He has been emasculated and seems to like it...

Bismarck.
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:55 PM
I am gratefully to have a father who never lets my mother do hard work for him.He has a lot of pride and takes pride in providing for his family and still allowing my mother to be a woman.The roles in our family are clearly defined...no grey area ...what message are they senting to Jada,that a woman should work for her man while he watches football matches and play video games....I would understand if he was earning a living somewhere.

yes they envy a man who has a wife working hard for him .He should be toiling for his family and not let his wife be the primary breadwinner...where is his manhood, pride or backbone...so Kim wears the pants in this household:help:.I hope he will not cheat on her while she is working hard to keep a roof over their heads.

Dead.

Jean-Henri
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:57 PM
yes they envy a man who has a wife working hard for him .He should be toiling for his family and not let his wife be the primary breadwinner...where is his manhood, pride or backbone...so Kim wears the pants in this household:help:.I hope he will not cheat on her while she is working hard to keep a roof over their heads.

Nice advice from a citizen of a country that prides itself with hordes of "soccermoms", "hockeymoms" and other middle class non working people who's biggest concerns seem to be if their lipstick is OK.

Maybe you should be a little more concerned about them than with a modern European woman that loves her husband not for his income but for what he really is.

shap_half
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:59 PM
I am gratefully to have a father who never lets my mother do hard work for him.He has a lot of pride and takes pride in providing for his family and still allowing my mother to be a woman.The roles in our family are clearly defined...no grey area ...what message are they senting to Jada,that a woman should work for her man while he watches football matches and play video games....I would understand if he was earning a living somewhere.

This is totally OT, but:

I'm sure that's not what he's doing, and even if it were, you don't know the details of their relationship. Any husband can be proud to hold down the fort at home while his wife goes out there achieving her goals. If I were Jada, I'd be happy to have at least one parent always home with me, it doesn't matter who it is and what archaic social expectations are being bandied about in some forum on the internet.

And what do you reckon same sex couples with children should do?

BepaMaria
Jan 20th, 2011, 04:10 PM
The fact that the top players like Serena, Venus, Henin and Clijsters are giving her advice and encouraging her just shows that Pushniacki is still not up to the task of being the world #1:shrug:. Nobody gave Serena such advice when she was #1 because everyone saw her as a legitimate #1 and a real threat to the tour, but obviously for Pushniacki, she is a failure and really needs to improve her game and mentality alot, which is why the top players are giving such advice to her.

Smitten
Jan 20th, 2011, 04:17 PM
yes they envy a man who has a wife working hard for him .He should be toiling for his family and not let his wife be the primary breadwinner...where is his manhood, pride or backbone...so Kim wears the pants in this household:help:.I hope he will not cheat on her while she is working hard to keep a roof over their heads.

:lol:

Gawain
Jan 20th, 2011, 04:42 PM
yes they envy a man who has a wife working hard for him .He should be toiling for his family and not let his wife be the primary breadwinner...where is his manhood, pride or backbone...so Kim wears the pants in this household:help:.I hope he will not cheat on her while she is working hard to keep a roof over their heads.


I don't think so since most extramarital affairs happen at work.

Anyway, enjoy your manhood and pride by going to work untill your 70.
I bet Brian would give anything to have what you have. :D

CWTennis
Jan 20th, 2011, 04:53 PM
I like you Kim, but please, Caro don't need your advice!

LeonHart
Jan 20th, 2011, 05:03 PM
No, Kim was not younger, she was 20 as well.
Anyway, expected. She was #1 while the winner of RG and USO '03 was #2 :tape: :help:
And ROFLMAO @ "The only thing that worries me with her is that she plays so many tournaments," said the third seed after crushing Spain's Carla Suarez Navarro 6-1 6-3 to reach the third round.

"I wonder when it's really needed and when she needs to play her best that maybe she can't always produce."

What a hypocrite, she was playing around 25 tournament per year at her age as well :lol:

No shit, she basically went through what Wozniacki is going through right now so she is telling Wozi how to deal with it. Nothing hypocritical about her statement at all.

ZODIAC
Jan 20th, 2011, 05:10 PM
I don't think so since most extramarital affairs happen at work.

Anyway, enjoy your manhood and pride by going to work untill your 70.
I bet Brian would give anything to have what you have. :Dyes you are right most affairs happen where you spent a lot of your time at...in his case at home with the nanny:tape:

SymphonyX
Jan 20th, 2011, 05:13 PM
Kim, you dumbass, the only reason she's at number 1 is because she plays so many tournaments. It's certainly not her GS record.

Or maybe that's evil Kim playing with Caro's mind and plotting to take that #1 spot.

Kim can relate... I mean. She did the "Caro thing" too, and much better at that before she won her first grand slam. She was racking up tournament after tournament despite not having won a grand slam yet. She won six (6) tournaments in 2005 before she won the 2005 US Open.

Kim does awfully have a lot of tournament wins relative to her grand slam titles. Here are the Top 5 active players with the most titles:

1) Venus Williams (43 titles/7 of which are GS)
2) Justine Henin (43 titles/7 of which are GS)
3) Serena Williams (37 titles/13 of which are GS)
4) Kim Clijsters (37 titles/3 of which are GS)
-big gap-
5) Maria Sharapova (22 titles/3 of which are GS)
-big gap-
6) Everyone else

sammy01
Jan 20th, 2011, 05:16 PM
kim is only being honest. whether caro is ranked #1 or #5 she will have to probably beat 1 or 2 of the big 4 along the way, so she has to find a way of trying to peak for a slam.

LeonHart
Jan 20th, 2011, 05:17 PM
The fact that the top players like Serena, Venus, Henin and Clijsters are giving her advice and encouraging her just shows that Pushniacki is still not up to the task of being the world #1:shrug:. Nobody gave Serena such advice when she was #1 because everyone saw her as a legitimate #1 and a real threat to the tour, but obviously for Pushniacki, she is a failure and really needs to improve her game and mentality alot, which is why the top players are giving such advice to her.

When Serena was #1 she was winning Grand Slams. There's a difference.

SOA_MC
Jan 20th, 2011, 05:24 PM
It's good advice by Kim... I hope she tells Caro directly instead of only speaking advice through the media.

There is no need for Caro to play and win tournaments like Ponte Verda again and again and again. It's fine when you are up and coming but once you've established yourself in the top 10 it's time to give these tournaments the flick... unless it's a home country tournament.

Shinjiro
Jan 20th, 2011, 05:48 PM
It's good advice by Kim... I hope she tells Caro directly instead of only speaking advice through the media.



She should send her a text message. :devil:

Gawain
Jan 20th, 2011, 07:26 PM
Ugh, I hate when people give unsolicited advice.


Since it's an interview I think Kim merely answered the questions.
But they left the questions out of the article so that it seems like Kim is preaching the word.

gentenaire
Jan 20th, 2011, 08:00 PM
I am gratefully to have a father who never lets my mother do hard work for him.He has a lot of pride and takes pride in providing for his family and still allowing my mother to be a woman.The roles in our family are clearly defined...no grey area ...what message are they senting to Jada,that a woman should work for her man while he watches football matches and play video games....I would understand if he was earning a living somewhere.He has been emasculated and seems to like it...

Only weak men fear strong, successful women. Self confident men don't have a problem being with a woman who's successful.

ExXotikal
Jan 20th, 2011, 08:04 PM
Why is Kim talking about peaking at the right time when out of more than 40 tournaments she only won 3 slams (the same one at that)?

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/breakforever/myGIFS/Girlplease.gif

Nicolás89
Jan 20th, 2011, 08:05 PM
For Caro, playing Bastad, Brussels and Doha(or Dubai) is pointless IMHO.

explicit
Jan 20th, 2011, 08:23 PM
"I went to bed with (Roger) Federer ..."

:eek: That threw me for a minute!

Me too :lol:

edificio
Jan 20th, 2011, 08:51 PM
I feel like that's real talk :shrug:. Don't care for her atall but I think she is just speaking from experience here and nothing is wrong with that. Doesn't mean she's right/wrong. Everyone has to find their own way and do what works for them.

Hear, hear! This is exactly what Kim is doing, speaking from experience. She is also not saying that Caro must do anything, just offering the voice of experience.

As for her other remarks, I too went to bed with (Roger) Federer...

Well, actually, I stayed up when I saw that he lost the third set. Damn.

edificio
Jan 20th, 2011, 08:54 PM
Nice advice from a citizen of a country that prides itself with hordes of "soccermoms", "hockeymoms" and other middle class non working people who's biggest concerns seem to be if their lipstick is OK.

Maybe you should be a little more concerned about them than with a modern European woman that loves her husband not for his income but for what he really is.

Don't take one person from a place to stand for all of them. As for a country taking pride in hordes of soccer moms, etc.? What country is that?

ZODIAC
Jan 20th, 2011, 10:05 PM
Only weak men fear strong, successful women. Self confident men don't have a problem being with a woman who's successful.
besides a successful man there is a strong woman is an universal language and Kim should motivate her husband to find his own feet.I will never forget the look on his face when Kim was playing in the final with Wozniacki,he looked rough with a shaggy beard and the lost puppy look on his face and it looked like that winners check meant a lot to him more than Kim and these days he looks happy and has cleaned up because there is more to spent.I grew up amongst successful strong men and women and a man like Kim s will not be tolerated because he doesnt pull his weight.:tape:

ExXotikal
Jan 20th, 2011, 10:24 PM
What is Kimmy's hubby doing for a living again? Don't tell only Kim has to work to put the food on the table and not have the light cut off.

Ryan
Jan 20th, 2011, 10:28 PM
No, Kim was not younger, she was 20 as well.
Anyway, expected. She was #1 while the winner of RG and USO '03 was #2 :tape: :help:
And ROFLMAO @ "The only thing that worries me with her is that she plays so many tournaments," said the third seed after crushing Spain's Carla Suarez Navarro 6-1 6-3 to reach the third round.

"I wonder when it's really needed and when she needs to play her best that maybe she can't always produce."

What a hypocrite, she was playing around 25 tournament per year at her age as well :lol:



That doesn't make her a hypocrite....it means she is giving her some advice. Thats like saying a reformed crack addict can't tell someone its not smart to do drugs. Are you, by any chance, a crack head?

ViceUltramontain
Jan 20th, 2011, 10:30 PM
What is Kimmy's hubby doing for a living again? Don't tell only Kim has to work to put the food on the table and not have the light cut off.

He was a basketball player during 9 years. He stopped his career in 2009.

young_gunner913
Jan 20th, 2011, 10:31 PM
She should tell it to Caro's dad as well.

ZODIAC
Jan 20th, 2011, 10:34 PM
That doesn't make her a hypocrite....it means she is giving her some advice. Thats like saying a reformed crack addict can't tell someone its not smart to do drugs. Are you, by any chance, a crack head?she should have done this privately ,this is not for public consumption.I am sure they meet a lot in the players lounge,showers and message rooms,this was all about Kim boasting that she is the top dog now and with her 3 slams she can mentor this young blossoming player.

Yorker
Jan 20th, 2011, 10:36 PM
No, Kim was not younger, she was 20 as well.
Anyway, expected. She was #1 while the winner of RG and USO '03 was #2 :tape: :help:
And ROFLMAO @ "The only thing that worries me with her is that she plays so many tournaments," said the third seed after crushing Spain's Carla Suarez Navarro 6-1 6-3 to reach the third round.

"I wonder when it's really needed and when she needs to play her best that maybe she can't always produce."

What a hypocrite, she was playing around 25 tournament per year at her age as well :lol:


You'r e an idiot, use some intelligence here for once. You're calling Kim a hypocrite for giving advice on an issue that she herself had trouble with, and what happened? She got injured!!! Non stop from the tournies, crashing out later in slams, the EXACT thing Caro is doing right now. Kim went through it so obviously she knows alot more about it than you do.

Kitten63
Jan 20th, 2011, 10:50 PM
"I went to bed with (Roger) Federer ..."

:eek: That threw me for a minute!

Me too :lol:

Wiggly
Jan 20th, 2011, 10:54 PM
The problem is that Caroline isn't controlling her own career, Piotr is.

Her whole family sacrified a lot for her so it's understandable they want to milk the most money as possible.

The Dawntreader
Jan 20th, 2011, 10:57 PM
Saint Sin in her new role as confidante. Tragic.

Papillon.
Jan 20th, 2011, 10:57 PM
"I went to bed with (Roger) Federer ..."

:eek: That threw me for a minute!

IKR? :sobbing:

Richie's
Jan 20th, 2011, 10:59 PM
Easy to say with $100 million in the bank.
:lol:
That's true. But actually, Pusher isn't playing like 25 or 26 tournaments per year... I think her schedule is good, besides the activities off court.
We need to see the No 1 player in the world taking part in tournaments and not only in GS's and few Tier I (like Rena and some others ;))

Ryan
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:04 PM
she should have done this privately ,this is not for public consumption.I am sure they meet a lot in the players lounge,showers and message rooms,this was all about Kim boasting that she is the top dog now and with her 3 slams she can mentor this young blossoming player.




:rolleyes: You're too much. She was asked questions, and answered them. END OF STORY. You're so dramatic.

thenj
Jan 20th, 2011, 11:45 PM
Well she is right about playing too many tournaments.

ZODIAC
Jan 21st, 2011, 12:56 AM
love Caro she listens to her parents and those are her role models not her rivals on tour.
GO CARO!!