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Jakeev
Jan 19th, 2011, 08:36 PM
Was wondering how some of you felt about how American women did at this Australian Open? There seemed to be more faces in this Slam outside New York that I have seen in a long time. Although only Venus Williams and Vania King escaped the first round, some of the younger players showed some promise while others were a bit overwhelmed over the occasion.

Any thoughts?

tonybotz
Jan 19th, 2011, 08:39 PM
i took no hope from this aussie open... once the sisters williams are done, women's american tennis is dead

Serenita
Jan 19th, 2011, 08:41 PM
i took no hope from this aussie open... once the sisters williams are done, women's american tennis is dead

Basicly.

it-girl
Jan 19th, 2011, 08:47 PM
i took no hope from this aussie open... once the sisters williams are done, women's american tennis is deadAt this point I agree because the other current American players do not have what it takes. When Venus & Serena call it a day if no one has been able to step up, American tennis will be like several other countries with a lot of players but no real talent and that is sad. Hopefully someone will step up.

A-Bond
Jan 19th, 2011, 08:47 PM
Vandeweghe lost 1-6 2-6 to Cornet on hard court. I really don't know what to say... :lol: Oudin lost once again in 1R. Have not seen anything from Riske.

Rui.
Jan 19th, 2011, 08:50 PM
From the 12 titles women can win on grand slams in a year, americans won 7 last year. :lol:

Alejandrawrrr
Jan 19th, 2011, 08:57 PM
Post-Williams American tennis is frightening. We've shown... questionable treatment of the sisters being that we've had many great champions in the past, but when the last two stars retire, we will reap what we have sown.

:bounce: Oudin :bounce:

Shvedbarilescu
Jan 19th, 2011, 09:11 PM
I actually think in terms of depth American women's tennis looks to be in better shape now than it has for something like a decade. Not since the late 90s when of course the Williams sisters broke through have there been so many young Americans emerging at the same time. With Oudin, Vandeweghe, McHale, Riske, Hampton, Falconi, Stephens, Albanese, Rogers, Brodsky, Hardebeck, Davis and Gibbs for the 1st time in absolutely ages the USA has a very sizable crop of promising young American players.

I wouldn't get carried away, it is quite possible none of the players on that list will become major stars of the game but even if that is the case I still think it is likely that a substantial amount of the girls on this list will go on to establish themselves as fixtures in the top 100. 2 or 3 years ago I could see the day coming when the US faced a future post Williams sisters where they were represented by only 3 or 4 players in the top 100. No more. I suspect now within 2 or 3 years the amount of Americans in the top 100 will probably be around a dozen. And it has been a few years since the US was so well represented within the top 100.

I should add I don't see any of these girls replacing the Williams sisters. Players of the standard are come along only very very rarely. America will soon have to do without having any marquee players who are a threat to win at every Grand Slam they attend. But while the US of the future looks like they will probably have to make do with any huge superstars they do look like they will have a lot more players representing them at tour level than they have had for a considerable while.

miffedmax
Jan 19th, 2011, 09:15 PM
Well, we'll just have to start watching doubles, won't we?

TrojanStallion
Jan 19th, 2011, 09:38 PM
Actually, this Australian Open made me feel really sick about the future of American Tennis.
We have one woman, Venus Williams, in the 3rd round. She is injured and could get knocked out at anytime.
Then we have Vania King, the only other US woman to make the 2nd round, and she was completely annihilated by Caro Woz. Vania will never move up the rankings, she doesn't have the game to go anywhere but float between 70-120,
Alison Riske, Irina Falconi, & Lauren Davis were unfortunate to draw seeded opponents, but of those 3, I don't see either of them rising anywhere further than around 100.
Bethanie Mattek, Jamie Hampton, and Christina McHale all had very winnable first round matches, and none of them could come through. Bethanie seems so mentally fragile in the big moments, I worry about her. She is top 50 now, and has some game, but she is also mid twenties, and not some newcomer.
Melanie Oudin. Really disappointing. Doesn't have a huge game, but does have a game that could trouble top 50, but she is just inconsistent, and falters wayy too often.
Coco Vandeweghe. Dear god, what is there even to say about her? She has a huge game, huge serve, huge strokes, but what is her deal?? On any given day, she can just be blown out of the water by anyone, and these complete blowouts in maindraw appearances at majors, its completely ridiculous.
Looks like she has a great coaching staff, and the athletic background, but girl needs to get in shape, fast!
With the rest of the girls that fell in qualies, I don't really see any of them that are going to trouble higher tier players. Sloane Stephens has some game, but hasn't shown to be able to get the job done yet.
Guess we need to wait and see if anymore juniors climb up the ranks and start showing some signs of having a true pro game, but for now....blahhh.....

tennisbum79
Jan 19th, 2011, 09:43 PM
No hope.

Golden years were of Seles , Capriati, Davenport, Venus, Serena and Ruben are all a distant memory now.

Asheley's generation fizzled before we could get used to their names. Oudin raised expectation quickly and disappeared quickly.

From time to time, we see american tennis prodigy thread complete with youtube video on this forum only to go silent after the girls hits puberty.

tennisbum79
Jan 19th, 2011, 09:51 PM
Well, we'll just have to start watching doubles, won't we?
You're gona to start a retro locker room confrontation edition from 2000 to 2007.
Yes, we're gona have to live in the past until the present becomes worth living in it.

Curcubeu
Jan 19th, 2011, 10:30 PM
The USA is a huge country! There will definitely come a rising star again! Maybe she is just born in the minutes you read this post! ;)

Otherwise, the American women tennis will be comparable with Germany's men...
14 players in the main draw and one of them in round :o

MakarovaFan
Jan 20th, 2011, 12:34 AM
The fact that there is a good 5-10 girls that could break into the top 100 by year's end is very postitive.We havent seen more than 4-5 americans in the top 100 since the early-mid 00s. BUT on the other hand i dont see a single true champion in the bunch(though a few could become quite good: Coco,Davis,Sloane and Mattek).

Le Tenisse
Jan 20th, 2011, 12:57 AM
this has been an issue for some time now, but there is a subject that i would like to ask you US fans. Why the US tennis is so reluctant towards red clay?. I know that if it was for US , everything would be played in hard. But lets face it, the europeans, specially the easterns, have won the predominant presence in the sport. And they have done that, in part, because they rock on clay. US may not be a decent competition because they donīt prepare their players (both men and women) in red clay. And if they do, they do it in green clay.

AnomyBC
Jan 20th, 2011, 01:59 AM
Honestly, the best hope for American women in tennis after the Williams sisters retire would be to get Azarenka and/or Sharapova (both of whom live in the US) to change their nationality :)

MakarovaFan
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:12 AM
this has been an issue for some time now, but there is a subject that i would like to ask you US fans. Why the US tennis is so reluctant towards red clay?. I know that if it was for US , everything would be played in hard. But lets face it, the europeans, specially the easterns, have won the predominant presence in the sport. And they have done that, in part, because they rock on clay. US may not be a decent competition because they donīt prepare their players (both men and women) in red clay. And if they do, they do it in green clay.
It's not just that but also the US/Americans whole atttitude and approach to tennis is bad. They are lazy,spoiled,don't like to put the hard work in and expect good things to happen to them just because.

tennisbum79
Jan 20th, 2011, 02:14 AM
Honestly, the best hope for American women in tennis after the Williams sisters retire would be to get Azarenka and/or Sharapova (both of whom live in the US) to change their nationality :)
That won't happen for Maria.

If she wanted to change nationality, she would have done it a long time ago.

Everything about her, (at least externally) is american.

PLP
Jan 20th, 2011, 03:26 AM
I had more hope before they all lost in the 1st rd. :lol:

In fairness though, it was a new experience for some of them, and they played some very close matches. I expect at there will be at least 3 or 4 more Americans in the the top 100 within a few months.