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MiiMo
Jan 19th, 2011, 07:52 AM
??? :confused:

Lapaco
Jan 19th, 2011, 07:53 AM
She is faking it to distract the opposition.:worship:

edificio
Jan 19th, 2011, 07:56 AM
I've always wondered about that.

Moveyourfeet
Jan 19th, 2011, 07:59 AM
Henin is gritty, scrappy and determined on court. There are very few times that she has actually choked/had mental letdowns in matches, especially in her first career.

She is one of the top mental giants in the women's game.

MiiMo
Jan 19th, 2011, 08:16 AM
Henin is gritty, scrappy and determined on court. There are very few times that she has actually choked/had mental letdowns in matches, especially in her first career.

She is one of the top mental giants in the women's game.

Then could you explain why she's always affraid on courts, like against Baltacha today.
I also remember that semi final at Wimbledon 2007 against Bartoli where she was like a little cat stalked by a dog !
I mean, she's not that confident, she always seems anxious just like against Sharapova last year at the french open at the beginning of the last.

She is one of the top mental giants in the women's game.[/QUOTE]

Make Me Laugh !

Mightymirza
Jan 19th, 2011, 08:19 AM
Its the old henin which was stellar :o New one has to prove it yet..

Moveyourfeet
Jan 19th, 2011, 08:51 AM
Then could you explain why she's always affraid on courts, like against Baltacha today.
I also remember that semi final at Wimbledon 2007 against Bartoli where she was like a little cat stalked by a dog !
I mean, she's not that confident, she always seems anxious just like against Sharapova last year at the french open at the beginning of the last.

She is one of the top mental giants in the women's game.

Make Me Laugh !

So in her first career, you can only come up with one match (the worst match of her career) where she was 'afraid'. I'm sure every player has one match where they didn't have that belief for whatever reason.

Post-retirement Justine has made multiple modifications to her game. It makes sense that this can cause anxiety to a professional athlete, especially when matches go close.

And did you say Henin was afraid on the court because of Baltacha? :tape:
If being afraid is losing 4 games in a match, maybe I should be afraid when I play lol.

doujyr
Jan 19th, 2011, 09:30 AM
people living in the past imo

Jajaloo
Jan 19th, 2011, 09:31 AM
Past glories.

Dazza01
Jan 19th, 2011, 10:09 AM
I look afraid before I go out and dance Ballet. In fact, I have not seen a dancer yet who hasn't looked afraid at some point in their performance career. (Usually before dancing Ballet)

But we always dance our best when we are afraid - we concentrate, focus, and take no step, no matter how easy or complex, for granted.

Yes, I know dancing is not that similar to tennis in regards to mental toughness, but you would be surprised at how much dancers go through before they hit the stage.

And, for me, the result is the key for a professional tennis player. It doesn't matter how they look, or how they feel; it's about how they get out of matches with a win, against all odds or scorelines.

Venus demonstrated that today.

DimaDinosaur
Jan 19th, 2011, 10:16 AM
this is true, she always seems scared

chloe-l
Jan 19th, 2011, 11:00 AM
She is faking it to distract the opposition.:worship:

:lol:

BlueTrees
Jan 19th, 2011, 11:03 AM
Henin's a great fighter but she's not in the Serena Williams category..Venus is the same, she gets nervous too. Serena is the strongest ever.

goldenlox
Jan 19th, 2011, 11:12 AM
The announcers are reluctant take a stand, so they talk about players Henin, & others, like Sharapova, Venus, like its still 2007.
Those players arent winning many big matches the last 2 years.

But if you diss a multislam winner, you look bad if they do something

Tennis Ball
Jan 19th, 2011, 03:06 PM
Because she's known as the comeback kid and has made several remarkable comebacks (in matches) in her career. Particularly the SF against Capriati at the USO 2003, is a famous example, and was the real starting point for this image. Still one of the longest matches in the history of women's tennis with its 3 hours 3 min. duration, and still being referred to as one of the most beautiful matches ever. In general, even when trailing she is difficult to beat, she'll always fight till the end as she loves the competition.
So in case you're question was really genuine, there is a simple explanation for her image as a real champion and having its fighting spirit accordingly.

moby
Jan 19th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Because she fights like a bitch even when she's scared and insecure.

Depending on which aphorism you subscribe to, that's the true definition of courage.

How can you show courage if you have no fear to confront?

There's more to mental strength than the kind of supreme self-belief that Serena demonstrates.

Claycourter
Jan 19th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Juju is tough, but she'll never ever match the legendary mental toughness of "Bepa" Zvonareva, Safina or Sam Stosur. She's a scared little girl compared to them :sad: :awww: I still love her anyway!

Tennis Ball
Jan 19th, 2011, 03:11 PM
Henin's a great fighter but she's not in the Serena Williams category..Venus is the same, she gets nervous too. Serena is the strongest ever.

Yes, we have seen that when she was losing against Kim at the USO 2009. :rolleyes:

BepaMaria
Jan 19th, 2011, 03:14 PM
Henin is mentally strong but all players are afraid at times. Even Nadal the mentally strongest on the mens side looks afraid when hes playing Davydenko and Del Potro.

L'Enfant Sauvage
Jan 19th, 2011, 03:21 PM
Yes, we have seen that when she was losing against Kim at the USO 2009. :rolleyes:

Do not start.

Kart
Jan 19th, 2011, 03:25 PM
It's all relative.

When the rest of the tour is populated by chokers afraid of their own success, a degree of self belief makes you a tower of mental strength.

Raiden
Jan 19th, 2011, 03:28 PM
Henin is mentally strong but all players are afraid at times. Even Nadal the mentally strongest on the mens side looks afraid when hes playing Davydenko and Del Potro.Nadal doesn't really look afraid but rather confused and clueless when he faces those two players.

That doesn't mean he's never afraid though. He is afraid of... white paint :eek:

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Mistress of Evil
Jan 19th, 2011, 04:22 PM
Cuz she is a diva, duh.

pov
Jan 19th, 2011, 04:35 PM
Henin is not "afraid" on court! She seem to be feeling some anxiety at times. In my observation this only started after she came back on tour. Likely she is not yet convinced that she is 100% healthy and that her game is back where she'd like it to be. Additionally she has added new twists to her game which she has not yet fully integrated.

Mental strength doesn't mean never feeling anxious or even (though that's not the case here)afraid.

Mental strength means bucking up and accomplishing despite the anxiety and/or fear. It means being able to turn one's attention from those nervous feelings and focus on the task and hand. It means getting up if you fall, recovering one's balance if you stumble, believing in yourself even through the moments of doubt.

Serenaluv
Jan 19th, 2011, 10:51 PM
Nervous yes, but scared? I don't think so.

Henpova
Jan 19th, 2011, 11:27 PM
Mental strength means bucking up and accomplishing despite the anxiety and/or fear. It means being able to turn one's attention from those nervous feelings and focus on the task and hand. It means getting up if you fall, recovering one's balance if you stumble, believing in yourself even through the moments of doubt.

This! Yes she get nervous in close matches but she never chokes. Justine will keep fighting and fighting and that is what makes her mentally strong. Even Serena get nervous but she never gives up. If Justine was mentally weak she would of lost a ton of her slams wins. Also she still is strong because even though she lost to Kim and Serena last year in close matches, she would of lost in str8 sets if she was week. She found a way to fight and get into those matches but her tennis was still not on par.

tennisbum79
Jan 19th, 2011, 11:31 PM
I have not heard much talk about her mental strength.

If anything, it is her mental fraility I have heard a lot about.
Even coach and mentor Carlos has talked about her mental fraility and her need for constant reassurance and approval while on the court.

But again, I have npt posted here in awhile, so maybe she has worked on her mental side.

L'Enfant Sauvage
Jan 19th, 2011, 11:37 PM
I don't think she was ever mentally frail :confused: Any trouble she ran into recently had to do with her body and/or fitness as far as I know. She's definitely someone who goes for blood, I'm not sure I can recall seeing her choke in a big match.