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Raiden
Jan 16th, 2011, 09:37 AM
Wow, Kim is a veteran of more than 10 years on tour? How is that relevant? Patty Schnyder has been on tour for longer than that, does that make her an all time great? No. I see you always manage to form nice arguements when you're cornered, "Loser-tards" "Venus Tards". Not everyone that can see Kim for what she really is, is a Venus Tard. And the bolded section, Please don't make me laugh. Kim is no-where the top four of the WTA elite for the past 10 years, she's probably Top 10 at the most. Serena, Venus, Justine and probably Hingis fill those spots. Then Sharapova, and Davenport who have proven that they can win slams off one surface, and against formidable competition. Unlike Clijster's who struggled against the top players of her generation, managed to win one slam in like 5 tries, and then comes back in 2009 to a depleted field and records better results than her entire first career in the first 18 months. If Kim is an all time great, she needs to find a way to win matches like the one she lost against Na. How can you argue that Kim has a B game? We've seen it against Petrova, at the entire US Open and now Na. When Kim's A game abandons her, she can do nothing but sit on the baseline and retrieve. She refuses to do anything differently. Anyone who plays reasonably solid tennis and can keep their heads have more than a fair chance of taking her down. Unfortunately, this very rarely happens given the current state of the tour. Form a real argument without your pathetic little childish insults and try again.One swallow doesn't a summer make.

I have already gave my opinion about what I believe happend in this Sydney final match. Simplistically speaking it was a tank. More specifically: what happened was that that final against Na Li was played shortly after the AO-draw became known. So she must have had something (for example the match against Safina and the other girls in her quarter) on her mind, especially once she comfortably went 5-0 up against Na. There's no mystery here and no, she wasn't "exposed" whatsoever. Kim lost concentration as her mind was thinking about saving herself for the Australian Open. End of story.

KBlade
Jan 16th, 2011, 09:42 AM
One swallow doesn't a summer make.

I have already gave my opinion about what I believe happend in this Sydney final match. Simplistically speaking it was a tank. More specifically: what happened was that that final against Na Li was played shortly after the AO-draw became known. So she must have had something (for example the match against Safina and the other girls in her quarter) on her mind, especially once she comfortably went 5-0 up against Na. There's no mystery here and no, she wasn't "exposed" whatsoever. Kim lost concentration as her mind was thinking about saving herself for the Australian Open. End of story.

She was clearly tanking the match when she nearly smashes her Racket and hit that ball sky-ward in frustration when she was broken yet again by Na. If you watched by her body language, you could tell she was clearly agitated, frustrated and annoyed with the way she was playing, and to be losing. This was not a tank.

Raiden
Jan 16th, 2011, 09:51 AM
It wasn't a tank in the sense that she wanted to lose, because she didn't wanna lose. But it was in the sense that she clearly lost focus (that's my look on why the racket went skyward). Kim wanted to win but didn't put the necessary focus and concentration required to win such high level contest like this where the stakes are high. After all Na Li is no scrub. Players can't just half-mindedly beat her just cuz they want to and are capable of it in theory. They still need to be fully committed and dedicated when they face the Chinese cuz she will be against them.

KBlade
Jan 16th, 2011, 11:01 AM
It wasn't a tank in the sense that she wanted to lose, because she didn't wanna lose. But it was in the sense that she clearly lost focus (that's my look on why the racket went skyward). Kim wanted to win but didn't put the necessary focus and concentration required to win such high level contest like this where the stakes are high. After all Na Li is no scrub. Players can't just half-mindedly beat her just cuz they want to and are capable of it in theory. They still need to be fully committed and dedicated when they face the Chinese cuz she will be against them.

Well, if Kim wanted to win, then it can't have been a tank. She wanted to win, but wasn't sufficiently consistent or focused.

justineheninfan
Jan 16th, 2011, 02:01 PM
Kim's meltdown was bizarre and hard to explain. I dont know what to call it but it is going to make it even more interesting to follow these next 2 weeks, especialy as it is clear anything other than a title for Kim in Australia would be considered a disaester for her.

Ferg
Jan 16th, 2011, 02:02 PM
uhhhh, I always thought a tank was losing on purpose, not 'losing focus'. Thats just playing shit. Its not a tank.

debby
Jan 16th, 2011, 02:14 PM
It wasn't a tank in the sense that she wanted to lose, because she didn't wanna lose. But it was in the sense that she clearly lost focus (that's my look on why the racket went skyward). Kim wanted to win but didn't put the necessary focus and concentration required to win such high level contest like this where the stakes are high. After all Na Li is no scrub. Players can't just half-mindedly beat her just cuz they want to and are capable of it in theory. They still need to be fully committed and dedicated when they face the Chinese cuz she will be against them.

:spit: :spit: Then why did she lead 5-0 ? Puhlease.

espntennis
Jan 16th, 2011, 02:46 PM
THe match was likely only going 2 sets- However, Kim sucked it up in that first set.

MakarovaFan
Jan 16th, 2011, 03:08 PM
So should't Li Na pass up Elena Dementieva after this win?? I heard early that even with a win Li wouldn't crack the top 10,yet looking at the ranks and points i dont see how Elena can stay above Li after this(considering Elena losses 470 points and Li gains 410 of the 470 points)

cellophane
Jan 16th, 2011, 05:11 PM
This "Kim has no plan B" stuff is complete bs. I can say that the same every time a top player has a bad loss...oh no, they have no plan B, otherwise they wouldn't have continued to play as badly as the did. Most of the time if you are playing like complete shit, plan B isn't really going to save you... unless you get your game back. A shit day is a shit day. I do think Kim could work on her focus...

Caralenko
Jan 27th, 2011, 06:44 AM
:D Do it again!

scoobz
Jan 27th, 2011, 07:14 AM
This feels like 2009 Stuttgart vs 2009 Roland Garros to me :shrug:

pascal77
Jan 27th, 2011, 07:19 AM
Na li please beat kim hard, Kim is such an opportunist. she is only entitled to US open.

Lin Lin
Jan 27th, 2011, 09:57 AM
Na li please beat kim hard, Kim is such an opportunist. she is only entitled to US open.

too much attention-seeking:lol: